██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph

[Mjollnir]

Well i get all that. But this guy has nothing to do with the coin. I only see prove of a indian bank that is going to do something with this coin. Maybe not a good choise indeed. But indian bank, and a indian coins. I can see the link there.

I don't think it is an bank,  I think its more of a company that creates gold and silver coins.  They also have affiliated an exchange for trading those coins.  So the tie up does look interesting.

I believe the founders of this coin truly have good intentions.  The way the mining subsidy works out is really designed for the long term.  

Now as for the price of the coin,  that is entirely a different matter and is a reflection of short term speculation.

Oke :-)

Well anyhow i agree about the long term. There are also lots of bad companies who are using euros or dollars  . I have some nice ammount of coins. Now waiting till it hits 3 dollar or 6. And between that moment and now i wont panic sell.

[poppys]

These mouth breathers are just trying to drive the price down right now so they can buy cheap and pump it tonight. Only scammers that I see. GTFO.

[ManOnTheMoon]

EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS IT IS OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED BY THE FREELAKOTABANK! !~~~~~~~~~!!!!! MAZA IS CONFIRMED http://imgur.com/mVARF82 SPREAD THE WORD

Aaaaand we're back to sub 5k satoshi.

I wonder, what is this pump you noobs spoke of before I exposed your holy bank that is run by a retard stealing money from hard-working middle class America to maintain his lavish lifestyle? Wonder if support R is support Rob Gray? HEHEHEEH.

[TeddyBear1]

EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS IT IS OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED BY THE FREELAKOTABANK! !~~~~~~~~~!!!!! MAZA IS CONFIRMED http://imgur.com/mVARF82 SPREAD THE WORD

http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/391/3912151/2441702-0720251747-origi.gif

Aaaaand we're back to sub 5k satoshi.

I wonder, what is this pump you noobs spoke of before I exposed your holy bank that is run by a retard stealing money from hard-working middle class America to maintain his lavish lifestyle?

Seriously dude, do you have no life to live? Let us lose (or not) our money as we want and just shut up already...

[tokyopotato]

anyone owning bitcoin should sell because this scammer named Mark Karpeles is suspected to have stolen hundreds of thousands of them.

I just don't want to see you guys get hurt by that scam artist Karpeles. The coins were actually being moved out of the cold storage wallet this morning.


http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zsw1k/while_the_press_is_focused_on_satoshi_180000/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zshct/4ee89f7cf824a85ad5f11d52604ffdebe9f01302bcea8ddec0/

Nice one jrich! Still dreaming about that lambo from mazacoin?

Thing is, Karpeles didn't pretend to be a mind psychic for cancer patients. That is where I draw the line.

Also a water ionizer salesman.

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=137961

Thing is they never launched any IPO in Maza to "scam" users. No-one is telling you to buy MZC, talk sense or GTFO please.

I just dont get it what the FUCK are you shitting out of your ass about you holy saint?..Did you get beaten up by thugs in the street or what today? is that why you are taking out your frustration here?

I've never seen ANY coin dev that did real world promotion, moreover he is trusted by his tribe.

Stop crying if you sold at loss

ManOnTheMoon trolls the threads of nearly every coin that has good intentions to spread FUD about it...

Not sure why anyone really cares what he thinks.  He is just trying to make himself seem important.  Maybe he is right and maybe he is wrong.

But it's pretty ridiculous to make any conclusions at this point.

[jrich76]

we can't panic sell and feed the whales on the exchanges and we can't reply to these trolls and feed them either.

Back to 5400 on mint. The real pump is coming tonight if you believe what the twitterverse says.

[poppys]

EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS IT IS OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED BY THE FREELAKOTABANK! !~~~~~~~~~!!!!! MAZA IS CONFIRMED http://imgur.com/mVARF82 SPREAD THE WORD

Aaaaand we're back to sub 5k satoshi.

I wonder, what is this pump you noobs spoke of before I exposed your holy bank that is run by a retard stealing money from hard-working middle class America to maintain his lavish lifestyle?

Seriously dude, do you have no life to live? Let us lose (or not) our money as we want and just shut up already...

Just put him on ignore , he is the real scammer driving prices down so he can pump it later.

[Imperials]

Just don't panic guys and stop selling low. Don't forget this coins potential to come and how its undervalued right now. It's easily a top 5 alt and the next best thing.

[flipstyle]

we can't panic sell and feed the whales on the exchanges and we can't reply to these trolls and feed them either.

Back to 5400 on mint. The real pump is coming tonight if you believe what the twitterverse says.

This.  it's 9 freakin am on the westcoast guys.  The business day hasn't even started for many.  Wait til 5 and see where the price is at before drawing any conclusions.

[ManOnTheMoon]

Just put him on ignore , he is the real scammer driving prices down so he can pump it later.

What in the blue Satan are you talking about?

I'm not a whale, retard. I have like 20$ invested in this scheme and couldn't care less where this shit goes.

I can't stop laughing.

If you fuckers actually get roped into an Indian scam I'm going to laugh; NEVER TRUST NATIVE AMERICANS, EVER. People who live around reservations know this; the dumb ones are heroin addicts and the smart ones can outjew even venture capitalists who fund their casinos.

[coins101]

Rob Gray has moved through the technology, water ionizer, hypnosis and now the metals and cryptocurrency industries with all the same complaints.  The faces and places my change, but the racketeering is all the same.


Rob Gray exposed on local news for curing cancer! And you want to support this man?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNo6BQU0Ehc

You raise some very valid concerns but let's address a couple very important things. Are there two Rob Gray's or is it the same man? Are you certain he is AnonymousPirate - can you source that proof or is this just an inclination? It's certainly believable/plausible but of course, but especially with this whole not-really-Satoshi newsweek story (!), I would like to see some substantiating evidence that this man is indeed deeply connected to MZC's back end. Secondly, do we have any information on who has control of the premine? This is also critical information, even if Rob Gray is somehow tangentially involved by being part of the bank, it doesn't necessarily mean he has control of the currency - he could just be a partner and perhaps a poor choice for one, but still just a business partner.

Anyway, do you have more info besides what you can find on the first couple pages of google with the man's name? It's not exactly damning evidence, it's all circumstantial with no substantiation on your behalf.


Finally we have the issue of Payu Harris - is he just a puppet in your eyes? Part of the scheme? This man seems genuine, is he being hung out to dry? He'll become a target for certain if this goes south, he's being far too public to be part of a scam, no? How does he fit in, in your view?

Interesting perspective.

Here is a link to my main source, which provides a plethora of reading.

http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=29291

not sure how much more I can provide, already linked government statements and local news channel stories on him. It's quite obvious he is one of those shady salesmen just by watching the youtube video.

Robert Gray the Executive Director of the Mulligan Mint has quite the interesting history when it comes to starting new ventures. Here are a list of companies he created or just made up out of thin air. Free Lakota Bank, American Open Currency Standard (AOCS), SLV Properties (Silver Properties), AG Logistics (Silver Logistics),  TSP Mint (The Survival Podcast Mint), AOCS Mint, Open Currency, Lakota Exchange, AG Trading Post, and my favorite the non-existent International Commodity Banking Association (ICBA).

Many of these companies just revert back to the Mulligan mint but several are not even function companies and are just names or if they are incorporated they are used to funnel money from one scheme to another and eventually into Rob and David Gray’s hands where it is spent on maintaining their lavish lifestyle.

Well, Mr. Gray has been very busy since 2008 when he first arrived on the scene when he contacted Bernard von Nothaus about becoming a National Currency Director for the Liberty Dollar. Mr. von Nothaus informed Rob that he had to first become a Liberty Associate before he could become an NCR. This required a $100 fee which Rob Gray wanted waved which did not happen. So Rob came back two months later with the $100 fee and immediately he wanted to become an Regional Currency Director despite the fact he had put in zero time into being an associate to that point. Rob Gray finally became an ROC but then was suspended for questionable business practices which is the only time an ROC was suspended.

When Robert Gray decided to  form the American Open Currency Standard (AOCS) he used the Liberty Dollar and Mr Von Nithaus’s good name and infringed on the Liberty Dollar Merchant Decal which he reluctantly stopped after being ordered by Liberty Dollar’s attorney. You can read the entire account from Bernard von Nothaus here.

As you can see from yesterday’s post that several key personnel have jumped ship in the past several months. Which is not surprising when you understand that he has had two lawsuits in June brought about against him. The first was filed on July 8, 2013 by Chris Duane which you can read the Original Petition (Complaint) here.

Chris Duane was a business partner of Rob Gray and the Mulligan Mint and contends in these court documents that Rob and the Mint have not paid profits for use of marketing and use of coin designs which out permission. Mr. Duane wants to recover damages and to stop the use and sale of all intellectual property.

The agreement between Gray and Duane was that Gray through the Mulligan Mint would manufacture and sell coins designed by Duane. Duane supplied the designs and materials in the amount of 1,500 ounces of silver to the Mulligan mint for this purpose. All sales would result in the splitting of profits from sales of these coins after cost. This how ever did not occur and instead it is alleged that Mr. Gray kept all profits and even went so far as to reissue coins with the designs which are the property of Chris Duane despite being ordered to stop using them.

A second lawsuit involving approximately $1.2 million dollars in silver and cash owed in the amount of $217,000 for silver already purchased but not paid for to the Republic Metals Corporation. I have the court documentation but will not post them here out of respect for the companies wishes not to have this information out in the public. All I will say is that on the 24th of July 2013 an Emergency Oder for Entry and Inspection of all properties was filed and granted and Mulligan Mint, Robert Gray’s home and all other properties and warehouse connected to the Gray’s have been searched and inventories taken of all silver at these various properties.

That said, I do believe payu harris is legitimately trying to promote this coin and has no dog in the Rob Gray fight. However, associating with such people is an instant black flag to any investors. At the very least, severing all ties with the Free Lakota Bank and domain that Rob owns would be a step in the right direction for Mazacoin.

The whole point of crypto is no trust is required. That's why miners get paid.

[flipstyle]

Also, I like it how manonthemoon says 'WE'RE back to 5k.'

Lol.  Fuck outta here.  You never owned a single share.  You're just here to trollhate because mom won't let you borrow her visa to buy buttcoins.  

Stick to a completely anon coin like AUR, bud.

[coins101]

Just put him on ignore , he is the real scammer driving prices down so he can pump it later.

What in the blue Satan are you talking about?

I'm not a whale, retard. I have like 20$ invested in this scheme and couldn't care less where this shit goes.

I can't stop laughing.

If you fuckers actually get roped into an Indian scam I'm going to laugh; NEVER TRUST NATIVE AMERICANS, EVER. People who live around reservations know this; the dumb ones are heroin addicts and the smart ones can outjew even venture capitalists who fund their casinos.

Dude...that is so uncool and sounds racist.

[tokyopotato]

Just put him on ignore , he is the real scammer driving prices down so he can pump it later.

What in the blue Satan are you talking about?

I'm not a whale, retard. I have like 20$ invested in this scheme and couldn't care less where this shit goes.

I can't stop laughing.

If you fuckers actually get roped into an Indian scam I'm going to laugh; NEVER TRUST NATIVE AMERICANS, EVER. People who live around reservations know this; the dumb ones are heroin addicts and the smart ones can outjew even venture capitalists who fund their casinos.

Well, it looks like the real ManOnTheMoon has shown up.

The racist and bitter one.

You connected Native Americans to Jews in one sentence.  Congratulations you fucking loser.

[flipstyle]

If you fuckers actually get roped into an Indian scam I'm going to laugh; NEVER TRUST NATIVE AMERICANS, EVER. People who live around reservations know this; the dumb ones are heroin addicts and the smart ones can outjew even venture capitalists who fund their casinos.

Yep.  Just went from full retard to redneck racist faggotry.

The true colors show.  You seem like you'd be fun to hang around with in real life...

[flipstyle]

That little 'ignore' button under the avatar is a beautiful thing.   I'd suggest everyone do it while the redneck rants himself away with self conversation. 

DO NOT REQUOTE HIS POSTS AND PUT HIM ON IGNORE.  Do not feed the troll.

[jrich76]

wow, I was starting to take manonthemoon halfway seriously, but he's just an ignorant racist who hates Native Americans, jews, God only knows who else he considers to be the wrong color.

Did you assume that I'm white manonthemoon?

If i could find the ignore button I would use it. lol

[majorminers]

I'm a buyer at 4200-4800.

[szefkosmosu]

Guys I have a problem with my deposit. I've tried to withdraw my MZC from mintpal->cryptsy and it seems stucked. Currently: http://explorer.mazacoin.org/address/MGBdXXoZiF2in4KChbhmdPPre1pKpxem6p

Have you got such troubles to? Any ideas what to do? There is no 'pending' on cryptsy.

[tifozi]

Looks like sussex stole both his syringe and bong this morning.