██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph

[FryguyUK]

Of course, but it becomes stronger every second with lots of small buys/sells. Better distribution, better stability.

I think the coin started off on the wrong price where-ever it started.

[sussex]

That was very emotional and you seem to have missed the point.

Did you buy at the top?

No, i've made 1,3 btc from this coin so far. It's just annoying that people like you only come here when the price fall and once again laugh at it. You're just a bully who made fun of somebody that's trying hard to achieve something everytime he stumbled.

So what if u think his effort is futile? Must u login everyday just to remind people about it? What are you? A crypto evangelist?

So can I take it that you have no genuine response to my post?

Thought so.

[flipstyle]

Of course, but it becomes stronger every second with lots of small buys/sells. Better distribution, better stability.

I think the coin started off on the wrong price where-ever it started.

Yeah, not the fault of the devs though...just some group of investors who thought it would be a great target to ride off the coattails of AUR.  But the premise still remains.


Gosh, so many 'ignored' replies lately...and so much wasted expended energy.

[xamido]

What happen is that some trader decided to pump the coin so fast to create false impression. Once people are buying in, they slowly dump. What we're seeing now is a new floor. But some people are quick to dismiss the price falling down as the sign of doom.

Btw i have ignored that man, it was so stupid trying to talk sense with him. In case u're reading this i mention that i made 1,3 btc profit during the pump. I'm not a bagholder, just somebody who believe in the coin future. Believing does not equal blind faith.

[whatthefugg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjmxRfZlPU

Well thats on camera with some cop. If it was a scam think hes safe saying this stuff to everyone?

I'm comforted that this guy is out talking to these groups and isn't some selfish shadowy dude sat glaring at his screen. Unless he is right now, in which case, IYA' PAYU!

- Lil pic of the guys speaking in New York: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh11Q_cIYAApbfb.jpg:medium

Cross country travelling scam artist who everyones seen the face of, yeeeeee

I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but that's not the issue.

The problem is no-one has faith in this or any other coin as a legitimate fiat alternative and national currency, especially a "nation" that is an enclave of the states and is, at the end of the day, under States federal rule.

This is far too premature, crypto has a long way to go with a few squabbles on the way - it certainly isn't going to rise in the USA, the home of the default currency.


I can see progress bring made in this direction in South America perhaps, maybe even Scandinavia or a few Asian countries, but not America, they won't stand for it.

Yeah, so? Let the man try to achieve his ideal, perhaps he's destined to fail or maybe not. But why must people like you keep popping in just to diss the coin? Basically u're an asshole who just have to laugh at somebody that's trying hard because u think what he's doing is futile.

lol'd at "diss" haven't heard that word since like '95

[Gh0stMiner]

scam or not, i don't care because i am sure that it will explode ... maza is a good target for a big pump and the pump must coming before the airdrop ...

I think a perfect big pump must be vicious and hidden.
When the pump begin, normal people must think that it's a normal rise and they will buy many. With the crazy rise of aurora, people will simply think that it will happen one more time with maza. If airdrop don't happen and auroracoin is a scam, so people will be more suspicious ...

For these reasons, i think we are in good conditions for a perfect pump.

Right now, we are in the collect phase ... down the price and buy many many coins slowly.

Obviously, it's just my opinion and i'am surely wrong ... but i am buying all i can 

[sussex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjmxRfZlPU

Well thats on camera with some cop. If it was a scam think hes safe saying this stuff to everyone?

I'm comforted that this guy is out talking to these groups and isn't some selfish shadowy dude sat glaring at his screen. Unless he is right now, in which case, IYA' PAYU!

- Lil pic of the guys speaking in New York: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh11Q_cIYAApbfb.jpg:medium

Cross country travelling scam artist who everyones seen the face of, yeeeeee

I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but that's not the issue.

The problem is no-one has faith in this or any other coin as a legitimate fiat alternative and national currency, especially a "nation" that is an enclave of the states and is, at the end of the day, under States federal rule.

This is far too premature, crypto has a long way to go with a few squabbles on the way - it certainly isn't going to rise in the USA, the home of the default currency.

I can see progress bring made in this direction in South America perhaps, maybe even Scandinavia or a few Asian countries, but not America, they won't stand for it.

Didn't marijuana just get legalised in two states and some more around the corner ? How's the federal government doing on that. You'll find the Native Americans have and always will put up resistance when coming under pressure to basically bend over.

Like I said, there are other currencies worth a lot more with a higher stake in them... none of them are 100%, so if this isn't it doesn't matter. At least the person making it is probably, out of all of the coins aside bitcoin devs, the only one who months down the line won't sack it off and just cash in, and just continue to fight until he's thrown into jail and the campaigns accross America spring up. Speaking of, have no idea how media and celebrities in particular (because you know some of those "cool" celebs will get involved) - how much fire is could cause. The public stepped up in America for the rights and liberties of African Americans, why wouldn't there be backing for helping the Native Americans.

Again with "America not standing crypto"... I honestly hear otherwise. Some senators want a ban on it. But the US has 600,000+ BTC from silk road alone, they have previously banned an online commidty (e-gold) and thrown the creators without due trial straight into jail... not with bitcoin. Honestly are these reports of different US areas accepting bitcoin and using ATMs etc all lies and photoshopped pics? :s

P.S How powerful are the casinos in regards to federal interference? I don't live there and play those casinos (yet) but I get an overwhelming sense from docs and movies/news I've seen in my life that it isn't so easy for the USA to drive in and start making demands...  

Good points, but you forget a few things.

The banks have overwhelming influence on the American government in particular. At the first hint of crypto eating into their profits they are going to kick back, and kick back very, very hard - the NRA will seem like pussycats in comparison.

In fact. this is already happening with stories such as the Rabobank one a few months ago. It is a sure fire bet that the banks (not the government as some hat-wearers argue) are already manipulating the markets to prevent stability and increase paranoia.

One point I was trying to get across is that Lakota will have to pay various bills to the federal government. The Gov. is not going to accept Maza, but is going to be able to manipulate Maza to make it impossible to use as a blanket currency.

I'm not dissing the guy, I'm not anti-abortion and I don't eat children, but I can view things without emotion (which can seem hard nosed) and this coin is not "the coin". The whole price was predicated on some momentary news coverage, but that coverage is finished now, everybody knows about Maza now - that's why the price stalled on Cryptsy. This has happened before, Sexcoin, Earthcoin, Maxcoin are all recent examples.

The coin that makes it is not going to jump out of nowhere with 1000% gains, it is going to creep up on us - if it ever happens at all.

I wish this could succeed, I have always championed the underdog being one myself - but this is not the one.

EDIT:

I would also say that the cries for a pump does rather undermine the character of the coin, all this stuff gets noticed.

[jokerg]

That was very emotional and you seem to have missed the point.

Did you buy at the top?

No, i've made 1,3 btc from this coin so far. It's just annoying that people like you only come here when the price fall and once again laugh at it. You're just a bully who made fun of somebody that's trying hard to achieve something everytime he stumbled.

So what if u think his effort is futile? Must u login everyday just to remind people about it? What are you? A crypto evangelist?

+1

[FryguyUK]

scam or not, i don't care because i am sure that it will explode ... maza is a good target for a big pump and the pump must coming before the airdrop ...

I think a perfect big pump must be vicious and hidden.
When the pump begin, normal people must think that it's a normal rise and they will buy many. With the crazy rise of aurora, people will simply think that it will happen one more time with maza. If airdrop don't happen and auroracoin is a scam, so people will be more suspicious ...

For these reasons, i think we are in good conditions for a perfect pump.

Right now, we are in the collect phase ... down the price and buy many many coins slowly.

Obviously, it's just my opinion and i'am surely wrong ... but i am buying all i can 

Mazacoin Airdrop? Erm

[sussex]

What happen is that some trader decided to pump the coin so fast to create false impression. Once people are buying in, they slowly dump. What we're seeing now is a new floor. But some people are quick to dismiss the price falling down as the sign of doom.

Btw i have ignored that man, it was so stupid trying to talk sense with him. In case u're reading this i mention that i made 1,3 btc profit during the pump. I'm not a bagholder, just somebody who believe in the coin future. Believing does not equal blind faith.

How do ,you know I'm a man?

I'm going to miss you.

x

[sussex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjmxRfZlPU

Well thats on camera with some cop. If it was a scam think hes safe saying this stuff to everyone?

I'm comforted that this guy is out talking to these groups and isn't some selfish shadowy dude sat glaring at his screen. Unless he is right now, in which case, IYA' PAYU!

- Lil pic of the guys speaking in New York: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh11Q_cIYAApbfb.jpg:medium

Cross country travelling scam artist who everyones seen the face of, yeeeeee

I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but that's not the issue.

The problem is no-one has faith in this or any other coin as a legitimate fiat alternative and national currency, especially a "nation" that is an enclave of the states and is, at the end of the day, under States federal rule.

This is far too premature, crypto has a long way to go with a few squabbles on the way - it certainly isn't going to rise in the USA, the home of the default currency.


I can see progress bring made in this direction in South America perhaps, maybe even Scandinavia or a few Asian countries, but not America, they won't stand for it.

Yeah, so? Let the man try to achieve his ideal, perhaps he's destined to fail or maybe not. But why must people like you keep popping in just to diss the coin? Basically u're an asshole who just have to laugh at somebody that's trying hard because u think what he's doing is futile.

lol'd at "diss" haven't heard that word since like '95

Yes, unfortunately my age is several orders of magnitude bigger than my BTC balance.

Edit:

In fact, old enough to find the word "like" used in that context to set my teeth on edge 

[xamido]

Haah, it's sure fun to use the ignore button.  

[whatthefugg]

scam or not, i don't care because i am sure that it will explode ... maza is a good target for a big pump and the pump must coming before the airdrop ...

I think a perfect big pump must be vicious and hidden.
When the pump begin, normal people must think that it's a normal rise and they will buy many. With the crazy rise of aurora, people will simply think that it will happen one more time with maza. If airdrop don't happen and auroracoin is a scam, so people will be more suspicious ...

For these reasons, i think we are in good conditions for a perfect pump.

Right now, we are in the collect phase ... down the price and buy many many coins slowly.

Obviously, it's just my opinion and i'am surely wrong ... but i am buying all i can 

Mazacoin Airdrop? Erm

that's what I was thinking. Airdrop...wtf?

[Gh0stMiner]

scam or not, i don't care because i am sure that it will explode ... maza is a good target for a big pump and the pump must coming before the airdrop ...

I think a perfect big pump must be vicious and hidden.
When the pump begin, normal people must think that it's a normal rise and they will buy many. With the crazy rise of aurora, people will simply think that it will happen one more time with maza. If airdrop don't happen and auroracoin is a scam, so people will be more suspicious ...

For these reasons, i think we are in good conditions for a perfect pump.

Right now, we are in the collect phase ... down the price and buy many many coins slowly.

Obviously, it's just my opinion and i'am surely wrong ... but i am buying all i can 

Mazacoin Airdrop? Erm

i forgot "aurora" airdrop

[candydaze59]

tons of people buying all this cheap coin.. this coin still has a ton of hype... just everyone expecting this coin to jump up huge.. i think people just might of had too high expectations of instant money

+2615668

[FryguyUK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjmxRfZlPU

Well thats on camera with some cop. If it was a scam think hes safe saying this stuff to everyone?

I'm comforted that this guy is out talking to these groups and isn't some selfish shadowy dude sat glaring at his screen. Unless he is right now, in which case, IYA' PAYU!

- Lil pic of the guys speaking in New York: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh11Q_cIYAApbfb.jpg:medium

Cross country travelling scam artist who everyones seen the face of, yeeeeee

I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but that's not the issue.

The problem is no-one has faith in this or any other coin as a legitimate fiat alternative and national currency, especially a "nation" that is an enclave of the states and is, at the end of the day, under States federal rule.

This is far too premature, crypto has a long way to go with a few squabbles on the way - it certainly isn't going to rise in the USA, the home of the default currency.

I can see progress bring made in this direction in South America perhaps, maybe even Scandinavia or a few Asian countries, but not America, they won't stand for it.

Didn't marijuana just get legalised in two states and some more around the corner ? How's the federal government doing on that. You'll find the Native Americans have and always will put up resistance when coming under pressure to basically bend over.

Like I said, there are other currencies worth a lot more with a higher stake in them... none of them are 100%, so if this isn't it doesn't matter. At least the person making it is probably, out of all of the coins aside bitcoin devs, the only one who months down the line won't sack it off and just cash in, and just continue to fight until he's thrown into jail and the campaigns accross America spring up. Speaking of, have no idea how media and celebrities in particular (because you know some of those "cool" celebs will get involved) - how much fire is could cause. The public stepped up in America for the rights and liberties of African Americans, why wouldn't there be backing for helping the Native Americans.

Again with "America not standing crypto"... I honestly hear otherwise. Some senators want a ban on it. But the US has 600,000+ BTC from silk road alone, they have previously banned an online commidty (e-gold) and thrown the creators without due trial straight into jail... not with bitcoin. Honestly are these reports of different US areas accepting bitcoin and using ATMs etc all lies and photoshopped pics? :s

P.S How powerful are the casinos in regards to federal interference? I don't live there and play those casinos (yet) but I get an overwhelming sense from docs and movies/news I've seen in my life that it isn't so easy for the USA to drive in and start making demands...  

Good points, but you forget a few things.

The banks have overwhelming influence on the American government in particular. At the first hint of crypto eating into their profits they are going to kick back, and kick back very, very hard - the NRA will seem like pussycats in comparison.

In fact. this is already happening with stories such as the Rabobank one a few months ago. It is a sure fire bet that the banks (not the government as some hat-wearers argue) are already manipulating the markets to prevent stability and increase paranoia.

One point I was trying to get across is that Lakota will have to pay various bills to the federal government. The Gov. is not going to accept Maza, but is going to be able to manipulate Maza to make it impossible to use as a blanket currency.

I'm not dissing the guy, I'm not anti-abortion and I don't eat children, but I can view things without emotion (which can seem hard nosed) and this coin is not "the coin". The whole price was predicated on some momentary news coverage, but that coverage is finished now, everybody knows about Maza now - that's why the price stalled on Cryptsy. This has happened before, Sexcoin, Earthcoin, Maxcoin are all recent examples.

The coin that makes it is not going to jump out of nowhere with 1000% gains, it is going to creep up on us - if it ever happens at all.

I wish this could succeed, I have always championed the underdog being one myself - but this is the one.

EDIT:

I would also say that the cries for a pump does rather undermine the character of the coin, all this stuff gets noticed.

That was long bud:

- Banks have power yes. Do you think a none fiat currency to be used for impoverished population of 100-200,000 people is going to eat away the banks profits from the 300+million strong nation? Casinos are a different matter but a different argument too.

- Yes many start up currencies and ideas have existed, like I said the US shutdown e-gold, but haven't made any move on bitcoin. Mazacoin like them all is decentralized so for one it is hard to stop them using it like it is hard for them to start Americans using bitcoins right? Unless they want to impose on the Native Americans and force them to do things... sure that will go down well in the media of this decade.

- If the government was serious about destroying it, they do have 600,000+ after all, and if they weren't interested in bitcoin existing they could pretty much quash the coin to nothing for a whole month, would probably be cheaper than the whole path of "stop the lakota using crpyto" which would indeed be expensive to pull off if these people start using it.

- I agree this isn't the kind of coin that will leap up and down, but in other arguments it could be (as this is a true "reach for freedom" people may buy into it who never usually considered bitcoin e.g sympathetic celebs and bagholders) and I personally am happy with just a small return, I would love to see this crypto cause something to happen in the real world over there, change for better. Would set a great example to the other nations on how to avoid being bled dry by other countries packed with business men with 60 years plus of immoral cut throat experience. Oh those bastards!

[Herp]

[23:42] <@neuroMode> So the Lakotas are open to being flexible/dynamic with the coin and offering support to other tribes, reaching out you might say
[23:42] <@AnonymousPirate> Now if this were to happen, we would become what is known as a Commonwealth Coinage.
[23:43] <@neuroMode> Ah
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> Lets be perfectly clear about something.
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> The Lakota do not decide.
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> We do.
[23:43] <@neuroMode> A misunderstanding on my part
[23:43] <@neuroMode> You confronted them with the idea?
[23:43] <@neuroMode> And they accepted?
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> When we set up MazaCoi we negotiated full autonomy for the MazaCoi Development Team.
[23:44] <@AnonymousPirate> No politician will ever decide the fate of MazaCoin.
[23:44] <@neuroMode> I see
[23:44] <@neuroMode> That is wonderful
[23:44] <@AnonymousPirate> WE decide the fate, this community.
[23:44] <@AnonymousPirate> And we will always do what is best for the coin and the people it represents. not the politicians.
[23:45] <@AnonymousPirate> Although it looks like Payu will be the next President of the Oglala Lakota Nation.
[23:45] <@AnonymousPirate> That is actually an unintended and undesired consequence of MazaCoin.
[23:45] <@neuroMode> I hope he uses his seat of power in a non-corrupt manner.
[23:45] <@neuroMode> He has done a very good job evangelizing so far
[23:46] <@AnonymousPirate> He will or I'll beat him and he knows it.
[23:46] <@AnonymousPirate> I would whoop him like a red headed step child.

http://pastebin.com/wvvNS7ra

This for real?

[FryguyUK]

[23:42] <@neuroMode> So the Lakotas are open to being flexible/dynamic with the coin and offering support to other tribes, reaching out you might say
[23:42] <@AnonymousPirate> Now if this were to happen, we would become what is known as a Commonwealth Coinage.
[23:43] <@neuroMode> Ah
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> Lets be perfectly clear about something.
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> The Lakota do not decide.
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> We do.
[23:43] <@neuroMode> A misunderstanding on my part
[23:43] <@neuroMode> You confronted them with the idea?
[23:43] <@neuroMode> And they accepted?
[23:43] <@AnonymousPirate> When we set up MazaCoi we negotiated full autonomy for the MazaCoi Development Team.
[23:44] <@AnonymousPirate> No politician will ever decide the fate of MazaCoin.
[23:44] <@neuroMode> I see
[23:44] <@neuroMode> That is wonderful
[23:44] <@AnonymousPirate> WE decide the fate, this community.
[23:44] <@AnonymousPirate> And we will always do what is best for the coin and the people it represents. not the politicians.
[23:45] <@AnonymousPirate> Although it looks like Payu will be the next President of the Oglala Lakota Nation.
[23:45] <@AnonymousPirate> That is actually an unintended and undesired consequence of MazaCoin.
[23:45] <@neuroMode> I hope he uses his seat of power in a non-corrupt manner.
[23:45] <@neuroMode> He has done a very good job evangelizing so far
[23:46] <@AnonymousPirate> He will or I'll beat him and he knows it.
[23:46] <@AnonymousPirate> I would whoop him like a red headed step child.

http://pastebin.com/wvvNS7ra

This for real?

Did you make that up sir cos' its some very sexy stuff.

"[23:48] <@AnonymousPirate> And they are designing us the most gorgeous collectible 1 ounce silver rounds you ever saw.
[23:48] <@AnonymousPirate> 500 MZC denomination they will be stunning."

wowser

I guess they figured out the problem that many ranted on about these poverty stricken people having no computers or internet get these coins (which is bs anyways). They're going for the easy and obvious root, use the already established none fiat bank to mint the coin? oooo someones a clever future president >.<

[ThePatient]

How does one get into that chat?

[solid12345]

This for real?

What some people crying scam don't get is there is no investment on the part of the Lakota people. The tribal leaders would be fools not to endorse the project, the premined coins were given to the community at no expense, no one is asking them to cough up money to pump the coin up, sure if may be volatile for awhile and not easily accessible by most members but it's not hurting to at least try either. I'm not native but I know I'd cast a vote for Payu just for the reason he is getting the tribe in national press and trying to jump start some major economic development.