██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph

[murraypaul]

Well, shit, I don't know what to think.

What about this? http://cryptominers.freeforums.org/the-memorandum-of-understanding-t10.html

There's more but here is just an except:

During the course of said agreement no cost will be incurred for OSTOED technical assistance, as the objective of this venture is to create an investment for the Oglala Sioux Tribe in the crypto currency market to assist with Economic Development on the Pine Ridge reservation.

I read this. This is what it looks like:

Step 1) Get in bed with the Economic Development team of a Tribe.
Step 2) Enforce it's usage by the Lakota people and businesses.
Step 3) Profit.

Sounds like the FED.

Go behind people's back and make a "sovereign" coin. Only talk to the finance people of a tribe, not the people themselves about if they would embrace a coin like this.

Why is he spending so much time talking to the US MEDIA about tribal sovereignty coins? Why does he care that people in the United States know? Why wouldn't he work way more with the Lakota people themselves?

You forgot to add Payu didn't even get handwritten signatures or an official stamp on that document. So no one signed off on it. That renders it useless.

We know it, or something like it, is genuine, because it has been confirmed by the tribal president:
http://www.nsweekly.com/

“There has been no action taken by the council to approve of a new currency. The economic development office gave a letter of support to Harris to continue to research the industry and that was it. As far as it being an official currency of the tribe that is not true at all. Any action like that would need to go through the council,” said President Brewer.

[murraypaul]

3. Waiting for it to boil over? It's just starting to simmer. It's not an Indian newspaper, it's an Indian blog news site. Payu refused an interview in January, and the attempts to contact Harris *about this controversy* were unsuccessful - he couldn't get a hold of anyone. So, you're flat wrong about that.

It is an Indian newspaper: http://www.nsweekly.com/
It was just republished by indianz.com

[najzmajs]

Hi! im organizing a pump 01:10 AM at #1AMPUMP at https://webchat.quakenet.org/
Pump will take place at https://cryptorush.in/ , Together we can become a big whale!
If you want to donate to the pump BTC : 17hgRpNSngbYroCs7tX5fdPaU94cUVMg2h
Lets make dis happen!

[49er.miner]

is a coordinated pump on cryptorush enough to affect both cryptsy and mintpal?

are the bots on mintpal and cryptsy worth countering? if we pump cryptorush?

can we go viral with a campaign to fight back against  whale manipulation?
im sure im not the only one whos sick and tired of this roller coaster bullshit..is a coordinated pump on cryptorush enough to affect both cryptsy and mintpal?

are the bots on mintpal and cryptsy worth countering? if we pump cryptorush?

can we go viral with a campaign to fight back against  whale manipulation?
im sure im not the only one whos sick and tired of this roller coaster bullshit..

finally this is for a good cause for the lakota nation...
a good cause for cryptocurrencies..
a good cause to push back against market manipulation..
and if you are holding maza you will also profit..

its a win win win win...

[moonman787]

Maybe this sounds dumb, but I hope others feel this way too. I would rather lose the rest of my money and go down with the ship if this indeed is some sort of scam (I highly doubt it is) rather than selling at this point. Think about the consequences if you sold now and it skyrocketed. For me, they are much worse than losing the remaining 20% of its value.

Also, if I was given two choices on how to lose all my money and they were: (1) Lose it all because its a scam or (2) Lose it all because you simply held onto a shitty coin way too long; I would pick the scam option all day. Think about it, if I was scammed then so was everyone else...kind of as a collective group and was something more complex in nature. These type scenarios (albeit shitty) are things I can live with. If I simply made a really stupid choice by buying a coin, stock, or whatever at the absolutely wrong time and wrong price while everyone else was headed in the opposite direction, well, that's completely on me and something I could have avoided. That would sting a lot more.

I repeat, I don't believe this is a scam one bit and believe by next week the prices will be 3x-4x more than what they are now.

[StuartGT]

Just found this, it's a long chatlog between AnonymousPirate (admin of Mazacoin forum) and neuroMode (same one from here perhaps?)

http://pastebin.com/wvvNS7ra

Tons of information regarding their long term plans for the coin, and providing it to the Native American peoples.

No short term plans though, sorry if that bums out a few peeps.

[49er.miner]

can we get more people join in on this pump

by showing and proving the blatant microsells and price suppression  on cryptsy?

im sure alot of people got burned by manipulation who are willing to join
especially if its for a good cause as i believe this coin is..

[jrich76]

can we get more people join in on this pump

by showing and proving the blatant microsells and price suppression  on cryptsy?

im sure alot of people got burned by manipulation who are willing to join
especially if its for a good cause as i believe this coin is..

I'm all about it, but how exactly do I participate?

[najzmajs]

can we get more people join in on this pump

by showing and proving the blatant microsells and price suppression  on cryptsy?

im sure alot of people got burned by manipulation who are willing to join
especially if its for a good cause as i believe this coin is..

I'm all about it, but how exactly do I participate?

http://webchat.quakenet.org/?nick #1ampump , but its delayed to 2am

[Herp]

Just found this, it's a long chatlog between AnonymousPirate (admin of Mazacoin forum) and neuroMode (same one from here perhaps?)

http://pastebin.com/wvvNS7ra

Tons of information regarding their long term plans for the coin, and providing it to the Native American peoples.

No short term plans though, sorry if that bums out a few peeps.

That chat was very interesting, especially the part where Pirate claims Payu might become the next Lakota president when he's not even a tribe member. Total crazy talk.

[jrich76]

http://webchat.quakenet.org/?nick #1ampump , but its delayed to 2am

what time zone?

[Herp]

Lol, you guys are talking about openly manipulating, pumping up the price? Really? Guess buyers beware!

[jrich76]

Lol, you guys are talking about openly manipulating, pumping up the price? Really? Guess buyers beware!

EDIT: probably not a smart thing to say so..redacted. lol

[Herp]

Lol, you guys are talking about openly manipulating, pumping up the price? Really? Guess buyers beware!

yea, we are robbing the robbers. We are not after everyday bagholders like they are.

Haha. That's what you tell yourself to sleep better at night?   

[jrich76]

hah, no I was being facetious which is why I redacted it, but then you quoted it so I guess I'm all in now lol

[StuartGT]

Just found this, it's a long chatlog between AnonymousPirate (admin of Mazacoin forum) and neuroMode (same one from here perhaps?)

http://pastebin.com/wvvNS7ra

Tons of information regarding their long term plans for the coin, and providing it to the Native American peoples.

No short term plans though, sorry if that bums out a few peeps.

That chat was very interesting, especially the part where Pirate claims Payu might become the next Lakota president when he's not even a tribe member. Total crazy talk.

I thought that too, that with the legalising marijuana are odd statements to be thrown in amongst the positive ideas they had (funded by the as-yet-untouched premine): full crypto casino, physical coins, giving free wifi and crypto mining equipment to the tribe.

[49er.miner]

i honestly dont know all this is new to me

i think we need brainstorming together once a team is made

we need advice from some experienced traders

any one willing to add to the conversation?

im really just a miner. i just signed up on this forum today after following all the posts for the last 4 days and
seeing the manipulation right in front of my eyes at cryptsy and mintpal was eye opening and frankly pisses me off

[solid12345]

Maybe this sounds dumb, but I hope others feel this way too. I would rather lose the rest of my money and go down with the ship if this indeed is some sort of scam (I highly doubt it is) rather than selling at this point. Think about the consequences if you sold now and it skyrocketed. For me, they are much worse than losing the remaining 20% of its value.

Actually what chaps me is the ones being the most nasty about Maza are probably the whales who collude among each other on Twitter and know when exactly to sell and made off with lions share of the profit on the pump the other day. Who are the real scammers here exactly?

[Zulandio]

BE WARNED ABOUT CRYPTO RUSH!!

There is a reason people avoid it like the plaque!! How their trade engine works compared to others.

Any other exchange.
I want to quickly buy up some coins. They are selling at .1 Sat so I put an order in for .2 sat and it buys up everything I can afford up to .2 sat after everyone in front of me buys. And it happens real time quick.

Crypto Rush.
I put in a buy order for .2 sat it BUYS anything at .2 sat and ignores lower prices.  You can verify this by looking at their graphs lines going off into space from bots trying to pump.

And the engine is slow during a market rise the buy orders start getting way more then the sale orders due to this and it just clogs it up. I would of been comfortable selling my MAZA at these prices except this trade engine prevented me from buying at .00004 and instead I had to buy at mostly .00009 and now I"m in deep since I thought like many here I'm sure. Sweet another AUR coin to the moon!   I now am fully aware that that is not true and I've lost close to 2/3 of my total portfolio of 2 BTC I take responsibility for making that stupid move. But I'm really getting sick of this notion in Crypto that people can just not say anything about what's going on and leaving everyone to go   WTF is going on. It causes speculation and panic I wish I could be involved in your pump but I just don't have any BTC to contribute to the cause as I'm "All In" Maza already..   Just be careful if your going to do it on Crypto you don't want to lose more money. And not to mention do you know how many Bag holders their are? It's going to be a challenge to get it up cause people will just dump when it gets anywhere and then more bags...  

[poppys]

BE WARNED ABOUT CRYPTO RUSH!!

There is a reason people avoid it like the plaque!! How their trade engine works compared to others.

Any other exchange.
I want to quickly buy up some coins. They are selling at .1 Sat so I put an order in for .2 sat and it buys up everything I can afford up to .2 sat after everyone in front of me buys. And it happens real time quick.

Crypto Rush.
I put in a buy order for .2 sat it BUYS anything at .2 sat and ignores lower prices.  You can verify this by looking at their graphs lines going off into space from bots trying to pump.

And the engine is slow during a market rise the buy orders start getting way more then the sale orders due to this and it just clogs it up. I would of been comfortable selling my MAZA at these prices except this trade engine prevented me from buying at .00004 and instead I had to buy at mostly .00009 and now I"m in deep since I thought like many here I'm sure. Sweet another AUR coin to the moon!   I now am fully aware that that is not true and I've lost close to 2/3 of my total portfolio of 2 BTC I take responsibility for making that stupid move. But I'm really getting sick of this notion in Crypto that people can just not say anything about what's going on and leaving everyone to go   WTF is going on. It causes speculation and panic I wish I could be involved in your pump but I just don't have any BTC to contribute to the cause as I'm "All In" Maza already..   Just be careful if your going to do it on Crypto you don't want to lose more money. And not to mention do you know how many Bag holders their are? It's going to be a challenge to get it up cause people will just dump when it gets anywhere and then more bags...  

I stick to Cryptsy. I've never had a problem with the site or buying / selling.  Checking the prices right now.. 2800? really? FFS you're just giving away the coin.  Should be 15k at least.