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September 19, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
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not everyone will think like that, especially for people who are at the lowest level of the economy. I think for people with low economic levels of money it will be a motivation for them because of course they will think that without money they will not be able to meet the needs of life.

 
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September 19, 2018, 12:16:04 PM
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I'd disagree because can you ask all your relatives why do they do their work even though they don't like it? Money will be the answer, and it is pure motivation.
Well, categorically speaking, we cannot say everyone is not motivated by money, most especially in this our current life where money is thoroughly needed. However, with what the OP said, it is true for those who are passion driven, ready to innovate to make a difference in the world and even without some cash at their disposal, that zeal and urge to do something out of the box, just keeps driving them as much as possible.

Money sure helps to achieve things faster though, but not necessarily an obstacle for someone who really wants to do something out of the ordinary.
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September 19, 2018, 12:36:41 PM
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I agree, money is very weak motivation. People need understanding of meaning of their job. And when they have understanding of their way. It bring awesome result.

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September 19, 2018, 12:48:01 PM
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Most people will motivate a lot for money because their main reason is business and profit. There are also a few who are interested in technology and the development of the new age.
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September 19, 2018, 01:05:30 PM
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I always hear the argument for capitalism "B bb BUT people won't innovate without the profit motive" WRONG

Humans want to solve problems, create, and innovate, they do not need money to motivate them.  Cavemen were painting art 20,000 years ago without the desire of money.

True scientists like Tesla, he didn't care about money it was about the pursuit of science.

Capitalism does not cause innovation, most new technology is found by government programs like nasa (internet, smartphones, etc)

There are activities/jobs which some people would eagerly do without any payment if their daily living needs were  met at the same time. That's what was happening with the cavemen you've mentioned and that was the case with many scientists, poets, artists etc in the past. I'm sure there are people like that nowadays too. However, there are many jobs which have to be done for the sake of humanity's' survival, but those jobs are not so entertaining and nobody wants to do them without payment.

Also, if you think that people working at NASA receive small payments, you are terribly wrong, my friend. NASA employees earn $62,000 - $126,000 annually, and get many other benefits in a form of meetings in exotic places of the world etc. Maybe they are not motivated by money, but I personally wouldn't wish for them to do the same job living in a Gulag.

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September 19, 2018, 01:14:35 PM
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Yeah, I see you have a point, and I agree till some extent. But if you do not meet the minimum needs (e.g. housing, food, and list goes on) than I would see how motivated people were to innovate... I guess it would just create stress and anger. I would rather put it like this: people are not always motivated by money, but until a certain point, it plays a huge role. Innovative side comes just right after the minimal needs (which can also differ from person to person)
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September 19, 2018, 01:16:23 PM
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Too lying when we say that money is not the goal of knowledge because in the end that knowledge will make money if it is patented by someone who finds that knowledge. Money is an additional motivation for someone to create new discoveries that are certainly beneficial to everyone later.
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September 19, 2018, 01:22:54 PM
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not everyone will think like that, especially for people who are at the lowest level of the economy. I think for people with low economic levels of money it will be a motivation for them because of course they will think that without money they will not be able to meet the needs of life.

Values become more heterogeneous and we cannot just assess assumptions from just one class, I am also in the group you mentioned and remain optimistic about looking for opportunities to make a profit, but one of the most important things is that I also have a job in business real because it's not easy to hang everything on crypto, especially for now, I try to calm down and still deepen the knowledge of price and momentum analysis.
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September 19, 2018, 01:25:58 PM
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Most people will motivate a lot for money because their main reason is business and profit. There are also a few who are interested in technology and the development of the new age.
people's needs and desires become the main motivation for people to earn money. nonsense if people don't have the will to get money for their future.
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September 19, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
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Olympiads are motivated for the glory of the sport.

And yes, there are other clear motivational aspects - glory is undoubtedly one, and not just for Olympians.

Fame and glory (as you call it) are also inseparably and inherently linked to prosperity. So even in such matters money plays an important role, though it is clear that in most such cases it is secondary and comes as a nice bonus. But there's one thing which is greater than money itself, and it is called power, as I've written about that in another thread here.

When you have power, like that of a dictator, you don't need money anymore as you can take everything directly, whether it can be bought with money or not. Unsurprisingly, you can't buy power with money as it is worth a way more than money can ever buy. In this fashion, people who are looking for power are not interested in money as money for them can be only a tool or a means, among many others, not a goal.
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September 19, 2018, 02:05:44 PM
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I don't think all of them are motivated from money, I think money can provide very good motivation and is very good because money can make many people become very rich and can buy anything they want.
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September 19, 2018, 04:53:23 PM
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In this situation people achieve money by doing various purpose.Which money assure ones future is valuable but the money which stay for temporary time is can't motive anybody.

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September 20, 2018, 11:07:26 AM
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~ Unsurprisingly, you can't buy power with money as it is worth a way more than money can ever buy. ~

I disagree with thins. It's a common practice when people buy a position of a member of parliament. They buy it by bribing the voters or by bribing significant political figures. And when you are a member of parliament you have power. But of course they do that to have the opportunity to obtain more money eventually, so even in this case they are still motivated by money.

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September 20, 2018, 12:03:35 PM
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Money is the purpose, not the tool. for everything. You can do anything using the money. The more money you have, the more free you are.
I think it is a source of motivation. We do everything for money. In the end, a business does not make people happy.
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September 20, 2018, 01:40:07 PM
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it's about changes in human civilization, where the human habitat is getting smaller now. they need a decent place to live, without working hard to live on people's land? I do not think so..
about capitalism, let the age wheel that will speak.


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September 20, 2018, 02:10:54 PM
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but I think that is different from today, thinking that without money there is no work, almost all work is motivated by money. it's hard to find people who don't have motivation because money happened in the past.
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September 20, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
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I'd disagree because can you ask all your relatives why do they do their work even though they don't like it? Money will be the answer, and it is pure motivation.
Well, categorically speaking, we cannot say everyone is not motivated by money, most especially in this our current life where money is thoroughly needed. However, with what the OP said, it is true for those who are passion driven, ready to innovate to make a difference in the world and even without some cash at their disposal, that zeal and urge to do something out of the box, just keeps driving them as much as possible.

Conceptually, I agree with you, though I have to clarify a few things, or rather expand your idea

In your post (and likely in your mind as well), you divide people into two groups (categorically speaking, as you call it). One group consists of people who are motivated by money, and another group of those who may be motivated by something else. The first group are obviously after material things, and they are motivated by money as much as it can provide them with these things as is the case with anything material. We say money is the biggest factor in this case as the connection is straightforward, and everyone understands what is meant here (well, at least I hope so). The second group are onto something else which has no direct connection with money. But here's the catch, whatever that might be, almost always you would need money for that. In this way, people who are passion-driven may not be motivated by money as such, but they still need it. And the stronger their passion is, the more it will be demanding in monetary terms

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September 20, 2018, 03:33:52 PM
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I always hear the argument for capitalism "B bb BUT people won't innovate without the profit motive" WRONG

Humans want to solve problems, create, and innovate, they do not need money to motivate them.  Cavemen were painting art 20,000 years ago without the desire of money.

True scientists like Tesla, he didn't care about money it was about the pursuit of science.

Capitalism does not cause innovation, most new technology is found by government programs like nasa (internet, smartphones, etc)
You are completely true. The kind of people you are talking about, I think they had it in themselves to do something big in life. Such people do not need any kind of motivation. They are bold and courageous enough which acts as their motivation. I don’t think so any person can make such great inventions like Microsoft, smartphone, etc in the wake of money. These people had great ideas which they implemented and money itself came to their door.
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September 20, 2018, 05:05:56 PM
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It can be true, but I'm not fully agree with that. In the past money perhaps isn't the major thing for scientist's life, but the world now says different thing. Many of them are concerned on how to make good money even some of them are truly dedicate their life for knowledge. So, it depends on their own motivation.
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September 20, 2018, 08:42:33 PM
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and I think that they are very motivated by money. people think that money is now decided by everyone and therefore are fighting for them
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