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I get your point but being this irritated about the price will get you no where. use this as your advantage and be more practical in investing. Invest what you can handle to loss.
We all would like to make a ton of money but it takes time. Now you can buy stuff when prices are low and then wait the market to hit bull. Invest in good projects and wait ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
I'm assuming you're talking about the altcoin market and not the bitcoin one, because bitcoin is doing just fine right now. It might not be moving much, but it's still way higher than it was when I first got into it. If you are talking about tokens and altcoins, maybe people have started to become a bit skeptical about them and aren't seeing the utility in 99.999% of them. Frankly, the vast majority aren't worth touching. In any case, I'll have to take your word for it that the markets are "pissing blood" since I don't really follow the shitcoin markets. I will say that if this is the case, it's happened many times before and I'm fairly sure the market will recover. Is it rational that prices will rebound? Probably not, because of the point I made above--but shitcoin investors tend to be more irrational than they think.
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Patience will always be the key brother in order for you to gain and earn, it will take time but I am sure it will be worth in so do not lose hope and always believe on it. Focus on the bright side and be optimistic, the market has been doing good for the passed weeks even though it is in dip. This is a great opportunity to invest more if you believe on it. Good Luck!
I really do not see why someone will even decide to pick the idea of ranting rather than picking the idea of learning. The problem with a lot of newbie is that they never learn and all they were just after anyway was not the future of what they are investing in and have no idea what they are investing in at all, except to just look for a quick way to want to get rich and because of that they just keep ranting and whining whenever the market is in a downtrend. If he is not seeing an opportunity on ground to invest in the long run, then I really wonder what he has been doing here in this space in the first place.
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Patience will always be the key brother in order for you to gain and earn, it will take time but I am sure it will be worth in so do not lose hope and always believe on it. Focus on the bright side and be optimistic, the market has been doing good for the passed weeks even though it is in dip. This is a great opportunity to invest more if you believe on it. Good Luck!
I really do not see why someone will even decide to pick the idea of ranting rather than picking the idea of learning. The problem with a lot of newbie is that they never learn and all they were just after anyway was not the future of what they are investing in and have no idea what they are investing in at all, except to just look for a quick way to want to get rich and because of that they just keep ranting and whining whenever the market is in a downtrend. Sorry to say that but this problem is applicable to anyone, not just newbies There is an adage (sort of) which says that people rarely make the same mistake twice. It is thrice and more times. We all follow our mental patterns deeply engraved in the chemistry of our brains, which make us repeat the same mistakes over and over again. In retrospect, you often can not even believe that it was you. So it is not just about newbies or only about trading as it takes a lot of in-depth introspection and analysis (and sometimes even the help of a mental health professional) to get rid of our dangerous habits. It is said that we learn only the hard way, but in fact most people don't learn at all. In trading, such people eventually lose all and then go home in tears or rage feeling deceived, humiliated, worthless
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October 06, 2018, 10:40:53 AM |
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Having more expectations about something isn't good for your health. You spent money for invest in by hanging on someone else, cause all you did was take on every suggestion that everyone said, even though you don't know the choices you have chosen. You like a possessed person, I mean your body was used by other people without you knowing it. FOMO on your mind was acute so you have to treat it slowly.
Trying every time you receive an information you must know the truth first, digest it carefully and think with the common sense you have, use the prediction that you had before, it would be better to respond everything. Cryptocurrency price movements are very mysterious, many things are not understood by an ordinary person's reason, this concerns money so as everyone will use anti-mainstream methods to respond it.
Bitcoin price was stable which means you can judge which one will give you a profit or choose an altcoin that still has a lot of pump and dump, and I guess you've been fooled by the altcoin, be careful.
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October 06, 2018, 11:37:06 AM |
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you don not need to sick or tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit because you must have knowledge about cryptocurrency before joining crypto world. There will be nothing much to think about bull shit. Let it be.
People nowadays always blame price without know what history of bitcoin price. Maybe they join when bitcoin on it's peak and now they end with loss. It is not good for community because something like bitcoin need smart people to adopt it. Let them keep blaming whoever or whatever they want to blame and probably that would keep them happy. Wisdom is profitable and at this stage, someone without it is bound to rant, whine, get sick and tired and even shit on the market because they are too greedily dumb to realize that what they should be investing in is the future of payment and not just because they are looking for a quick means to get rich in the short term. That mindset has affected so many people's judgment and mentality in this space that they just keep seeing negativity when they should be seeing opportunity. If he is not seeing an opportunity in this bear market already, then I have nothing else to say to him.
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October 06, 2018, 11:49:22 AM |
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Bots will not be able to fundamentally change the price behavior in the market. After all, bots are programmed by people who lay down their vision in them.
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October 06, 2018, 12:30:26 PM |
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That mindset has affected so many people's judgment and mentality in this space that they just keep seeing negativity when they should be seeing opportunity. If he is not seeing an opportunity in this bear market already, then I have nothing else to say to him.
When we can already see the frustration of the people then that would be the time that market will become better. Just like OP, some are just sick and tired of what is happening in the market and if you can't be patient in this kind of environment then better find someone else that would provide a profit that would not discourage you. Just think of ways then on how you can take advantage of the opportunity of the movements because cryptocurrency movements is more volatile compared to stocks.
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October 06, 2018, 12:35:27 PM |
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We are all tired of what is happening its been a long time since market is very high and have a very good performance. But all we can do is just to wait a little more. Have more patience. Instead of being sick and tired, just do something meaningful and useful to earn and save as many good coin as you can. You will not that market is at good condition again.
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October 06, 2018, 01:59:14 PM |
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There's something I've advised a few people to do during this bears season, and it's simply staying away from the market especially for those who do not wield trading skill set. Take the time off to learn and read more about the space and the blockchain technology, that will serve as the needed distraction.
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October 06, 2018, 02:19:53 PM |
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That mindset has affected so many people's judgment and mentality in this space that they just keep seeing negativity when they should be seeing opportunity. If he is not seeing an opportunity in this bear market already, then I have nothing else to say to him.
When we can already see the frustration of the people then that would be the time that market will become better. Just like OP, some are just sick and tired of what is happening in the market and if you can't be patient in this kind of environment then better find someone else that would provide a profit that would not discourage you. Just think of ways then on how you can take advantage of the opportunity of the movements because cryptocurrency movements is more volatile compared to stocks. Not seizing the opportunity of the bearish state was the mistake most inexperience cryptonier usually make and it because they dont have the require knowledge, they put all their hope on cryptocurrency, they expect too much from the market and ignore the probabilities involve.
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October 06, 2018, 02:35:23 PM |
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Patience will always be the key brother in order for you to gain and earn, it will take time but I am sure it will be worth in so do not lose hope and always believe on it. Focus on the bright side and be optimistic, the market has been doing good for the passed weeks even though it is in dip. This is a great opportunity to invest more if you believe on it. Good Luck!
I really do not see why someone will even decide to pick the idea of ranting rather than picking the idea of learning. The problem with a lot of newbie is that they never learn and all they were just after anyway was not the future of what they are investing in and have no idea what they are investing in at all, except to just look for a quick way to want to get rich and because of that they just keep ranting and whining whenever the market is in a downtrend. Sorry to say that but this problem is applicable to anyone, not just newbies There is an adage (sort of) which says that people rarely make the same mistake twice. It is thrice and more times. We all follow our mental patterns deeply engraved in the chemistry of our brains, which make us repeat the same mistakes over and over again. In retrospect, you often can not even believe that it was you. So it is not just about newbies or only about trading as it takes a lot of in-depth introspection and analysis (and sometimes even help of a professional) to get rid of our dangerous habits. It is said that we learn only the hard way, but in fact most people don't learn at all. In trading, such people eventually lose all and then go home in tears or rage feeling deceived, humiliated, worthless I won't call it a mistake, if it is repeated then it is termed as blunder. Most of the time most of us makes blunders not because we don't have the ability to understand things but due to the fact that we don't learn a learn a lesson from our mistakes.
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October 06, 2018, 03:12:18 PM |
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Indeed, this year's decline has been detrimental because of very low price reductions, but I don't need to give up on the current losses, and I prefer to keep holding and be patient, because in the future crypto will be able to rise and the price can recover.
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Indeed, this year's decline has been detrimental because of very low price reductions, but I don't need to give up on the current losses, and I prefer to keep holding and be patient, because in the future crypto will be able to rise and the price can recover.
This year I will say is what will determine the future of bitcoins because it has been able to stabilize after a long drop. This I believe is and should be the value of bitcoins for a while so that it can becomes less volatile and more stable.
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We are all tired of what is happening its been a long time since market is very high and have a very good performance. But all we can do is just to wait a little more. Have more patience. Instead of being sick and tired, just do something meaningful and useful to earn and save as many good coin as you can. You will not that market is at good condition again.
I agree, the more you look at charts the longer it will feel it takes, just zoom out, spend more time doing other things than crypto or at least spend time doing analysis but not about charts, unless you‘re a day trader. I reduced my time to spend with crypto and I am less nervous now. The more you want something the the longer you have to wait, just tune out for a while.
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Crypto is not a scheme to get rich quick and there is no guarantee that everyone who enters crypto can get rich. Crypto is risky and full of price manipulation, and if you think that crypto will bring wealth, it will frustrate you with the current conditions.
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Warning! Ranting ahead!
I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
I understood how you feel in the whole situation of this current market now I my self felt the same way back when I came in, which if you look back in the history of bitcoin you will get to know this same situation has occurred before this year is even better to that of the previous. So all you just need to do is seat and enjoy the ride don't feel depressed.
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Warning! Ranting ahead!
I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
I think you don't need to become hesitate or even tired of crypto because it won't help you to gain and to meet your dreams. Market situation is normal,everything will change,there is no constant and stable in crypto that's why as time goes by i know price and everything in crypto will change. Just make this current situation as an opportunity to buy more and invest it for the future.
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October 08, 2018, 09:07:11 AM |
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you don not need to sick or tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit because you must have knowledge about cryptocurrency before joining crypto world. There will be nothing much to think about bull shit. Let it be.
If he likes, he can get sick, tired or even puke on us all, it is his call. At this stage, if people are still investing out of greed and not because they see something in the future, then they are just full of shit and bollocks as far as I am concerned. Patience is one thing people like this can never have because they never got in because they believed in the future and they only saw an avenue to quickly make money, hear all the bullshits they want to hear, invest into FOMO while waiting for the moon and then we see them being pushed out by the whales who know people like them exist. It is their call at this stage if they do not want to get wise. Like they usually say common sense is not generally common anyway.
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Markets themselves are rational but people aren't. Markets simply operate of supply and demand. You're so right in what you say however, we don't need another big speculative bubble, slow and steady growth is what we need. These large pumps and then harsh bubble explosions are bad for development and adoption and long-term only hurt bitcoin.
Er... I beg to disagree What are markets if not just an aggregate of people trading there? Markets are reflecting the sentiment of the crowd there and can be just as irrational. As my favorite saying goes (ascribed to John Keynes), markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. It means basically two things. First, that the markets can be irrational (which is kinda obvious), and, second, that they can stay that way indefinitely long. And it makes perfect sense since if they were in fact as rational as you claim, making money there would be a pushover (which it is not). Just because you have an equation as in supply equaling demand at a certain price doesn't mean that the parts of the equation are as straightforward, logical, and determined
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