SCAM: MinexPay crypto debit card by minexpay.com / Minexcoin

[thunderjet]

And another portion of lies from fraudsters  named Jollygood and thunderjet

According to https://minexpay.com site and experience of Minexpay Gold card usage  with BTC you have to pay 0.5% fee for top up (MNX top up is free of charge). Conversation Fee for BTC is 2% ( or 1% if you do Conversation in MNX). And ATM fee 3.5 Euro.  So we have 2.5% fee for BTC and just 1% for MNX users. And that's it. Also there is platinum and infinite cards where fees are lower + you have cashback. As you see this group of fraudsters making false researches and telling lies. Don't listen them.

Your calculation is not right and this is why.You are using Upaycard and to load it you have to pay not just Minexpay ,but Upaycard fees too. I dont even count money which Minexpay have to give UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS for illegal using of its Upaycard account.

For ordinary user fees for converting BTC to fiat will be:

- 1% Upaycard fee for receiving BTC in wallet
- 3-4% Upaycard fee for converting BTC to EUR (you have to sell BTC on Upaycard if you want to load card in some reasonable time and not to wait days for bankwire load which is overcostly for sending less than 2000EUR )
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee
- 2% Minexpay fee for BTC to fiat conversion
- 3% bank conversion fee for using card in non-EURO zone, which is overwhelming part of yours users
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee
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1% + 3-4% + 0.5% + 2% + 3% + 3.5EUR = 9.5 -10.5 % in fees + 3.5 EUR is the real cost for user

Sure ,you can pack Upaycard fees inside lower conversion price for BTC,but still effect on users will be same.

So, who is the liar now ?  

[JollyGood]

And another portion of lies from fraudsters  named Jollygood and thunderjet

According to https://minexpay.com site and experience of Minexpay Gold card usage  with BTC you have to pay 0.5% fee for top up (MNX top up is free of charge). Conversation Fee for BTC is 2% ( or 1% if you do Conversation in MNX). And ATM fee 3.5 Euro.  So we have 2.5% fee for BTC and just 1% for MNX users. And that's it. Also there is platinum and infinite cards where fees are lower + you have cashback. As you see this group of fraudsters making false researches and telling lies. Don't listen them.

Still cheaper to use an exchange. Why not post all the hidden fees? Like balance check.

Well, tell me the exchange with a 0% conversion to Fiat, as with infinity card minex.  

Cmon. Be real. To use that card you have to pay 50 EUR for card then wait months to get it and then 500 EUR to balance. I can withdraw at least 500 times from bitstamp with that kind of sum.

And what is their reply?

We have heard it all before from Borys and his inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others that keep spinning a story that does not add up.

[thunderjet]

And another portion of lies from fraudsters  named Jollygood and thunderjet

According to https://minexpay.com site and experience of Minexpay Gold card usage  with BTC you have to pay 0.5% fee for top up (MNX top up is free of charge). Conversation Fee for BTC is 2% ( or 1% if you do Conversation in MNX). And ATM fee 3.5 Euro.  So we have 2.5% fee for BTC and just 1% for MNX users. And that's it. Also there is platinum and infinite cards where fees are lower + you have cashback. As you see this group of fraudsters making false researches and telling lies. Don't listen them.

Still cheaper to use an exchange. Why not post all the hidden fees? Like balance check.

Well, tell me the exchange with a 0% conversion to Fiat, as with infinity card minex.  

Cmon. Be real. To use that card you have to pay 50 EUR for card then wait months to get it and then 500 EUR to balance. I can withdraw at least 500 times from bitstamp with that kind of sum.

Are you sure?. Removing amounts above $ 100k you will lose thousands, and maybe even $ 10.k on commissions, this is not to mention the anonymity of the card. And if you do not need such huge amounts for withdrawal, then even a platinum card costs $ 7 with a limit of $ 100k per month. .

Well, ending with the fact that Bitstamp users can no longer receive a debit card .. you can only withdraw by bank transfer (which can go a week). So do not make people laugh.  
I do not speak about the countries where it is forbidden to receive bank transfers from crypto exchanges.

Real conversion fees for yours illegal Upaycard - UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card , from selling BTC until you take money on ATM is min. 10% + ATM withdrawal fee. It is far,far from cheap.

There is no anonymity in using card.It does not matter if your name is not on  the card,card issuer and Mastercard know it and they have to give it to authorities on request.


There are small number of countries where is prohibited to receive money from crypto exchnage. Anyway , there are at least 2 options far better than yours illegal Upaycard/ UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS cards :

- for smaller amounts it is better to use fully legal Paycent card which is really worldwide available in more than 200 countries,
- for bigger amounts you can open account in offshore bank,get payment card connected to your account and transfer money from exchange directly to yours offshore bank account

Not even talking how yours users is in danger of losing money using yours card obtained through using falsified data and illegal using of Lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account on Upaycard as a cover. You can imagine how financial authorities inside EU will be suprised to see how dormant Lithuanian company UAB KD, without registred employees and reported revenues, sending large amounts of money through Mastercard network...  

You must be fool to believe that this Minexpay/Chain2pay illegal scheme will not end bad and ugly.
 

[TeMHuK]

And here is real rates

- No Fee Upaycard fee for receiving BTC in wallet (because MNX card have different fees)
- No Fee Upaycard fee for converting BTC to EUR (have to sell BTC on Upaycard if you want to load card in some reasonable time and not to wait days for bankwire load which is overcostly for sending less than 2000EUR ) (because MNX card have different fees)
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee Yes, they have that fee. But it's 0% for MNX
- 2% Minexpay fee for BTC to fiat conversion Yes, but as higher is card status as lower is the fee. And it's Twice lower if you use MNX
- Fake info about 3% bank conversion fee for using card in non-EURO zone, which is overwhelming part of yours users. And it's fake because you will get exchange rates according to the MasterCard rates.
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee. Yes, that's apply to the Minexcoin card

As you see, this frauder named thunderjet is trying to confuse Minexcoin community again. He is too lazy even to read Minexpay.com web site to find out real rates.

[TeMHuK]

And another portion of lies from fraudsters  named Jollygood and thunderjet

According to https://minexpay.com site and experience of Minexpay Gold card usage  with BTC you have to pay 0.5% fee for top up (MNX top up is free of charge). Conversation Fee for BTC is 2% ( or 1% if you do Conversation in MNX). And ATM fee 3.5 Euro.  So we have 2.5% fee for BTC and just 1% for MNX users. And that's it. Also there is platinum and infinite cards where fees are lower + you have cashback. As you see this group of fraudsters making false researches and telling lies. Don't listen them.

Still cheaper to use an exchange. Why not post all the hidden fees? Like balance check.

Well, tell me the exchange with a 0% conversion to Fiat, as with infinity card minex.  

Cmon. Be real. To use that card you have to pay 50 EUR for card then wait months to get it and then 500 EUR to balance. I can withdraw at least 500 times from bitstamp with that kind of sum.

Are you sure?. Removing amounts above $ 100k you will lose thousands, and maybe even $ 10.k on commissions, this is not to mention the anonymity of the card. And if you do not need such huge amounts for withdrawal, then even a platinum card costs $ 7 with a limit of $ 100k per month. .

Well, ending with the fact that Bitstamp users can no longer receive a debit card .. you can only withdraw by bank transfer (which can go a week). So do not make people laugh.  
I do not speak about the countries where it is forbidden to receive bank transfers from crypto exchanges.

Real conversion fees for yours illegal Upaycard - UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card , from selling BTC until you take money on ATM is min. 10% + ATM withdrawal fee. It is far,far from cheap.

There is no anonymity in using card.It does not matter if your name is not on  the card,card issuer and Mastercard know it and they have to give it to authorities on request.


There are small number of countries where is prohibited to receive money from crypto exchnage. Anyway , there are at least 2 options far better than yours illegal Upaycard/ UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS cards :

- for smaller amounts it is better to use fully legal Paycent card which is really worldwide available in more than 200 countries,
- for bigger amounts you can open account in offshore bank,get payment card connected to your account and transfer money from exchange directly to yours offshore bank account

Not even talking how yours users is in danger of losing money using yours card obtained through using falsified data and illegal using of Lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account on Upaycard as a cover. You can imagine how financial authorities inside EU will be suprised to see how dormant Lithuanian company UAB KD, without registred employees and reported revenues, sending large amounts of money through Mastercard network...  

You must be fool to believe that this Minexpay/Chain2pay illegal scheme will not end bad and ugly.
 

Your Paycent cards are piece of crap with insane high fees. Minexcoin cards have much smaller fees

[thunderjet]

And here is real rates

- No Fee Upaycard fee for receiving BTC in wallet (because MNX card have different fees)
- No Fee Upaycard fee for converting BTC to EUR (have to sell BTC on Upaycard if you want to load card in some reasonable time and not to wait days for bankwire load which is overcostly for sending less than 2000EUR ) (because MNX card have different fees)
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee Yes, they have that fee. But it's 0% for MNX
- 2% Minexpay fee for BTC to fiat conversion Yes, but as higher is card status as lower is the fee. And it's Twice lower if you use MNX
- Fake info about 3% bank conversion fee for using card in non-EURO zone, which is overwhelming part of yours users. And it's fake because you will get exchange rates according to the MasterCard rates.
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee. Yes, that's apply to the Minexcoin card

As you see, this frauder named thunderjet is trying to confuse Minexcoin community again. He is too lazy even to read Minexpay.com web site to find out real rates.

Now you are coming into full liar zone and deleting mine posts on yours censored thread will not prevent truth about yours illegal scheme.How brave from you , but you cant expect nothing less from fraudster troll

There is no MNX card - Your card is Upaycard issued by using illegally Lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINS DUGNAS as a cover to yours fradulent activities. There is no way to avoid issuer - Upaycard fees - are you so stupid to understand that:

For BTC conversion you have to pay these rates and 90% of people will convert BTC to fiat,not "low-volatility" MNX :

- 1% Upaycard fee for receiving BTC in wallet
- 3-4% Upaycard fee for converting BTC to EUR (you have to sell BTC on Upaycard if you want to load card in some reasonable time and not to wait days for bankwire load which is overcostly for sending less than 2000EUR )
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee
- 2% Minexpay fee for BTC to fiat conversion
- 3% bank conversion fee for using card in non-EURO zone, which is overwhelming part of yours users - dont be stupid and see Upaycard foreign exchange rate
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee
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1% + 3-4% + 0.5% + 2% + 3% + 3.5EUR = 9.5 -10.5 % + 3.5 EUR is the real cost for user


You will put Upaycard fees into yours BTC lower exchange price and think how users will be so stupid not to see what are you doing  








If some poor user want to convert MNX to fiat, he/she will have to pay:

- EXMO trading fee 0.2%
- Minexpay fee 0.5-2%
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee
- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee
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0.2 + 0.5-2 + 0.5 + 2.9 + 3 + 3.5EUR = 7.1-8.6% + 3.5 EUR


Paycent card is legal unlike yours illegal UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS - nobody will seize your money ,plus overall costs of transaction is 4.75% (2.5 +1.75 +0.5 %) unlike 10 % for your illegal card

 

[TeMHuK]

Thunderjet, Why you are so stupid? Minexpay cards have different rates. All rates are at official Minexpay site. Stop making tale stories.

This two rates DOES NOT EXIST in Minexpay

- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee

P.S. your Paycent is piece of crap.

[thunderjet]

Thunderjet, Why you are so stupid? Minexpay cards have different rates. All rates are at official Minexpay site. Stop making tale stories.

This two rates DOES NOT EXIST in Minexpay

- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee

P.S. your Paycent is piece of crap.

Stop pretending. Iam talking about complete cost of transaction - from sending crypto to taking cash on ATM for user using yours  illegal UAB KRISTOLINS DUGNAS card :

Upaycard fees + Minexpay fees + EXMO fees + unknown fee for illegally using UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account on Upaycard.


UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card is issued by Upaycard ,so you cant avoid its fees and other costs.

Paycent is far from something fantastic ,but unlikely of yours UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card is completely legal.


For BTC conversion you have to pay these rates and 90% of people will convert BTC to fiat,not "low-volatility" MNX:

- 1% Upaycard fee for receiving BTC in wallet
- 3-4% Upaycard fee for converting BTC to EUR (you have to sell BTC on Upaycard if you want to load card in some reasonable time and not to wait days for bankwire load which is overcostly for sending less than 2000EUR )
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee
- 2% Minexpay fee for BTC to fiat conversion
- 3% bank conversion fee for using card in non-EURO zone, which is overwhelming part of yours users - see Upaycard foreign exchange rate
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee
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1% + 3-4% + 0.5% + 2% + 3% + 3.5EUR = 9.5 -10.5 % + 3.5 EUR is the real cost for user



If some poor user want to convert MNX to fiat, he/she will have to pay:

- EXMO trading fee 0.2%
- Minexpay fee 0.5-2%
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee
- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee
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0.2 + 0.5-2 + 0.5 + 2.9 + 3 + 3.5EUR = 7.1-8.6% + 3.5 EUR

[JollyGood]

Thunderjet, Why you are so stupid? Minexpay cards have different rates. All rates are at official Minexpay site. Stop making tale stories.

This two rates DOES NOT EXIST in Minexpay

- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee

P.S. your Paycent is piece of crap.

Stop pretending. Iam talking about complete cost of transaction - from sending crypto to taking cash on ATM for user using yours  illegal UAB KRISTOLINS DUGNAS card :

Upaycard fees + Minexpay fees + EXMO fees + unknown fee for illegally using UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account on Upaycard.


UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card is issued by Upaycard ,so you cant avoid its fees and other costs.

Paycent is far from something fantastic ,but unlikely of yours UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS card is completely legal.


For BTC conversion you have to pay these rates and 90% of people will convert BTC to fiat,not "low-volatility" MNX:

- 1% Upaycard fee for receiving BTC in wallet
- 3-4% Upaycard fee for converting BTC to EUR (you have to sell BTC on Upaycard if you want to load card in some reasonable time and not to wait days for bankwire load which is overcostly for sending less than 2000EUR )
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee
- 2% Minexpay fee for BTC to fiat conversion
- 3% bank conversion fee for using card in non-EURO zone, which is overwhelming part of yours users - see Upaycard foreign exchange rate
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1% + 3-4% + 0.5% + 2% + 3% + 3.5EUR = 9.5 -10.5 % + 3.5 EUR is the real cost for user



If some poor user want to convert MNX to fiat, he/she will have to pay:

- EXMO trading fee 0.2%
- Minexpay fee 0.5-2%
- 0.5% Minexpay top-up fee
- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee
- 3.5 EUR ATM withdrawal fee
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0.2 + 0.5-2 + 0.5 + 2.9 + 3 + 3.5EUR = 7.1-8.6% + 3.5 EUR

Excellent post by thunderjet

This clearly lays out the transaction fees issues and they cannot be denied because you listed them.

Still the fools especially the inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others will continue to spread lies to protect the Minex scammers.

[BitPotus]

TemKunt thinks he can get away with lying out of his arse.

Glad that his fucking ugly mug is all over ze internet.

There will be no place for him to hide when the time comes for him and his boyfriend Boris to pay for their crimes.

You will be sucking dick just to survive in jail TemKunt you fucking scamming faggot.

[yurez83]

Thunderjet, Why you are so stupid? Minexpay cards have different rates. All rates are at official Minexpay site. Stop making tale stories.

This two rates DOES NOT EXIST in Minexpay

- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee

P.S. your Paycent is piece of crap.

Why are you arguing with him? You just need to show this paranoid troll a screenshot of real transactions when withdrawing from an ATM.

This moron will never understand that UPay is not related to minex conversions.

[thunderjet]

Thunderjet, Why you are so stupid? Minexpay cards have different rates. All rates are at official Minexpay site. Stop making tale stories.

This two rates DOES NOT EXIST in Minexpay

- 2.9% Upaycard fee to top up card through Mastercard network (for EXMO-Upaycard transfer)
- 3% foreign currency conversion fee

P.S. your Paycent is piece of crap.

Why are you arguing with him? You just need to show this paranoid troll a screenshot of real transactions when withdrawing from an ATM.

This moron will never understand that UPay is not related to minex conversions.

THIS IS HOW YUREZ83 LOOK LIKE WHEN HE DOES NOT KNOW ANY MORE HOW TO JUSTIFY ENDLESS MINEXPAY/CHAIN2PAY LIES  

[JollyGood]

The scammers at Minex have now have deleted a staggering 31 posts in their censored thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.0):

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (31 posts by 10 users with 1 merit deleted.)

[yurez83]

The scammers at Minex have now have deleted a staggering 31 posts in their censored thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539.0):

This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (31 posts by 10 users with 1 merit deleted.)

Minex has now deleted a staggering 31 troll (jollygood, vlom, thunderjet, etc.) posts in its thread ...  

[JollyGood]

TemKunt thinks he can get away with lying out of his arse.

Glad that his fucking ugly mug is all over ze internet.

There will be no place for him to hide when the time comes for him and his boyfriend Boris to pay for their crimes.

You will be sucking dick just to survive in jail TemKunt you fucking scamming faggot.

When you say "his ugly mug" do you mean these photographs ?
 

[yurez83]

Be careful !! Fraudsters extortionists are engaged in trolling, making an attack on projects.
These are, presumably, the same scammers (jollygood, vlom, thunderjet, etc.).
If the same events happen to you, let me know.

https://medium.com/@minecoinorg/minexcoin-resolutely-reacted-to-the-raging-crime-in-the-network-reward-20-btc-4a23e1ae2f34

[JollyGood]

Does anybody envisage Borys and his inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others playing table-tennis when they should be concentrating on trying to cover their scam?

[thunderjet]

Does anybody envisage Borys and his inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others playing table-tennis when they should be concentrating on trying to cover their scam?

They are busted completely.They were making big promises just to attract investors,promises they have never wanted to fulfill. Big words, big plans,but in reality nothing.

People are wondering why nothing from whitelist they did not accomplish when they had more than enough money. Reason is that money was diverted in Boris private projects for gaming industry, which has nothing in common with whitelist plan and investors wishes. Boris took money from investors and then went into realisation of his own plans,not ones for which investors gave him money.That is classic definition for fraud and scam.

They blatantly lied people about price keeping in tight range,while at the same time via Instabuy they were relentlessly selling premined coins no matter what price is. They sold via Instabuy 2.6 millions coins, twice more than Minexbank paid for parking for entire year,busting price of MNX coins and investors,burned them to the ground.

They dont care about selling price,because they know that is better for them to sell no cost,premined coins for 50 cents than for nothing.They have still about 1 million of premined coins. They saw how project is rapidly crumbling,so they made decision to activate already forgotten payment card project. Due to rapidly deteriorating situation,they knew they have not much time ,so they acted fast and made a criminal agreement with owner of UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to use his company as a shell company to hide thiers unlawful doings.It has to give them more time to sell rest of premined coins and after it ,the game is over.Selling all premined coins as soon as possible is theirs main goal.

One more thing.Despite its center from where they are conducting entire business is in Ukraine,they are not registred there as a business subject and do not pay any taxes.They are operating illegally and all employees are paid in cash. Another tax evasion and one more lawsuit in the future...

[lotfiuser]

today I see that someone from another forum has received his card ordered from minexpay but it has Upaycard logo the guy is from Algeria and when I asked Upaycard they say they only create MasterCard for EU they don't support Algeria


i dont know why the first image doesnt show
link : https://b.top4top.net/p_11252te5q1.jpg

[JollyGood]

Does anybody envisage Borys and his inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others playing table-tennis when they should be concentrating on trying to cover their scam?

They are busted completely.They were making big promises just to attract investors,promises they have never wanted to fulfill. Big words, big plans,but in reality nothing.

People are wondering why nothing from whitelist they did not accomplish when they had more than enough money. Reason is that money was diverted in Boris private projects for gaming industry, which has nothing in common with whitelist plan and investors wishes. Boris took money from investors and then went into realisation of his own plans,not ones for which investors gave him money.That is classic definition for fraud and scam.

They blatantly lied people about price keeping in tight range,while at the same time via Instabuy they were relentlessly selling premined coins no matter what price is. They sold via Instabuy 2.6 millions coins, twice more than Minexbank paid for parking for entire year,busting price of MNX coins and investors,burned them to the ground.

They dont care about selling price,because they know that is better for them to sell no cost,premined coins for 50 cents than for nothing.They have still about 1 million of premined coins. They saw how project is rapidly crumbling,so they made decision to activate already forgotten payment card project. Due to rapidly deteriorating situation,they knew they have not much time ,so they acted fast and made a criminal agreement with owner of UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to use his company as a shell company to hide thiers unlawful doings.It has to give them more time to sell rest of premined coins and after it ,the game is over.Selling all premined coins as soon as possible is theirs main goal.

One more thing.Despite its center from where they are conducting entire business is in Ukraine,they are not registred there as a business subject and do not pay any taxes.They are operating illegally and all employees are paid in cash. Another tax evasion and one more lawsuit in the future...

Well it is true Borys registered Minexpay in Estonia and registered Minexsystems in Hong Kong, both are outside Ukraine and Borys is already knee deep in tax evasion and fraud related Court cases in Ukraine. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.