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[foodies123]

I've discussed this with bryce weiner and others on twitter and the only way a coin with this marketing strategy would make sense and not be labeled as a scam is by doing it in revers:

-create coin
-premine it
-distribute premine
-release coin for mining
-open promotion and exchanges

if you're not doing it like this you're doing it wrong and most likely are a scam.

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[illodin]

Icelanders log in to the web page to claim their coins. Process is automatic. Coins are sent. Please describe how the escrow process should've been arranged in order you to have been 100% satisfied.

I'm sorry. Where is the 100% solid evidence that only people from Iceland are getting AUR from the air drop? A counter on the AUR website you say? Are you trying to tell me I should blindly believe anything a random and completely anonymous person on the internet says? And no, I'm not talking specifically about you, I meant the dev Balduro; which no one knows his real name, physical address, how old he/she is or even what he looks like.

You can not possibly be daft enough to trust a completely random and totally anonymous person on the internet, and if you do then you're just another one of the mass suckers born every minute into this world.

Rarely nothing is 100%. Never blindly believe anything. At the point something in the world of investing is 100%, there is nothing to be gained from it anymore - no risk, no reward.

It's easier to find reasons why something might fail than build something. If an escrow would've taken place, you wouldn't have been happy how it would've been handled. But you can't describe how it should've been handled.

"It's hard to light a candle, easy to curse the dark instead"

[illodin]

-create coin
-premine it
-distribute premine
-release coin for mining
-open promotion and exchanges

This would've created some interesting dynamics, maybe we'll see a coin doing it this way as well?

Still many points which doubters could and would attack.

[ZeroBarrier]

I've discussed this with bryce weiner and others on twitter and the only way a coin with this marketing strategy would make sense and not be labeled as a scam is by doing it in revers:

-create coin
-premine it
-distribute premine
-release coin for mining
-open promotion and exchanges

if you're not doing it like this you're doing it wrong and most likely are a scam.

While this method would make it much less of a scam, you still run into the AUR paradox; how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the intended recipients are actually the only users receiving the pre-mined coins?

For example, look it it this way:

-I create a completely random and completely anonymous account
-I create a coin
-I pre-mine it
-I launder the pre-mined coins into thousands if not hundreds of thousands of wallet addresses myself and my team hold, but I distribute 10% of the pre-mined coins to the actual intended recipients
-I release the coin for mining
-I open promotions and exchanges
-I and my team pump and dump at a controlled rate
-...
-profit

Depending on the amount of coins and the amount of cryptocurrency savvy users that are in my targeted recipients, I may not even need to distribute 10% of the pre-mine. Let's be completely honest here, the cryptocurrency savvy users are a drop in the bucket in comparison to the population of any region anywhere in the world.

[illodin]

Let's be completely honest here, the cryptocurrency savvy users are a drop in the bucket in comparison to the population of any region anywhere in the world.

Well this is one of the things AUR has a chance to change. Better chance than any other crypto so far actually. But no, let's ignore that fact because it's not 1000% sure no one gets to scam a single coin out of it.

[V8x8d]

It's irrelevant who has the coins. The fate is the same.

[jamesclark]

completely agree with OP, but this is a hype and irrational world

[kalus]

I'm sorry. Where is the 100% solid evidence that only people from Iceland are getting AUR from the air drop? A counter on the AUR website you say? Are you trying to tell me I should blindly believe anything a random and completely anonymous person on the internet says? And no, I'm not talking specifically about you, I meant the dev Balduro; which no one knows his real name, physical address, how old he/she is or even what he looks like.

con men are the same whether they're selling cruise ship vacations, brooklyn bridge, or cryptocurrencies.  sunlight is the best disinfectant for these lowlifes.

your bullshit detector is working properly.  it's hilarious how illodin and his ilk have exactly the same party line.  the auroracoin cartel sticks out like a sore thumb in every one of these threads.  

[ZeroBarrier]

con men are the same whether they're selling cruise ship vacations, brooklyn bridge, or cryptocurrencies.  sunlight is the best disinfectant for these lowlifes.

your bullshit detector is working properly.  it's hilarious how illodin and his ilk have exactly the same party line.  the auroracoin cartel sticks out like a sore thumb in every one of these threads.  

Tell me about it, lol.

[Spoetnik]

sad BCX had to state the obvious..

why do people bother ? because they think they can slip in and out of the scam and make money.
and they may be right.. BUT you are promoting the coin by doing that and there for creating a domino effect..
the scam coin scene being over run by more and more daring scams with more and more excuses for premines etc
if you make this coin scammer 100 grand he is going to start making way more and way faster..
and the other coin spammers will see this and start copying what he did and it goes on and on until this scene is such a mess
that some bad people decided enough is enough.. such as US gov operations that seek destroy crypto across the web in all forms.
jeez gusy smarten the fuck up please.. don't you think pissing off all banks on earth enough ? lol
we're already taking money out of big bankers pockets and Paypal etc.. think about it.
or just do what you guys usually do and that short term greedy gain.. i make 1 btc but coin cloner makes 100 btc ..so i am happy lol
It's like eating cake for breakfast lunch and dinner everyday it's ging to catch up with you..
and sadly it's going to catch up with all of us not just the scummy fuckheads that support scam coins.. it effects all of us !

[greenclover]

completely agree with OP, but this is a hype and irrational world

+1, that is it

[kalus]

People are openly gaming the 'airdrop' here.  this quote from the auroracoin thread:

Have 100 (unused) working Kennitalas, that are 100% in Aurora database, need Islandic SMS number(s).

Will share 50%. Instant cash out to Bitcoin. Can do big volume!

Why would someone with a icelandic number share anything with you? You can find lots of kennitalas just googling around

Because most out of Google are already used!

[Bimmerhead]

I meant the dev Balduro; which no one knows his real name, physical address, how old he/she is or even what he looks like.

This is different from Satoshi how?

[ebliever]

con men are the same whether they're selling cruise ship vacations, brooklyn bridge, or cryptocurrencies.  sunlight is the best disinfectant for these lowlifes.

your bullshit detector is working properly.  it's hilarious how illodin and his ilk have exactly the same party line.  the auroracoin cartel sticks out like a sore thumb in every one of these threads.  

Tell me about it, lol.

Do you have _any_ evidence of wrongdoing by the Auroracoin team, whatsoever?

[ebliever]

People are openly gaming the 'airdrop' here.  this quote from the auroracoin thread:

Have 100 (unused) working Kennitalas, that are 100% in Aurora database, need Islandic SMS number(s).

Will share 50%. Instant cash out to Bitcoin. Can do big volume!

Why would someone with a icelandic number share anything with you? You can find lots of kennitalas just googling around

Because most out of Google are already used!

People are trying too. I called out one such would-be thief on Middlecoinforum.com. But do you have any evidence they are succeeding? The fact that they are publicly asking for help suggests they are not having such an easy time of it.

Besides, how many times have you heard bitcoin declared a scam? And the vast majority of us always point out that just because some people try to use bitcoin in a criminal manner, does not mean there is anything wrong with bitcoin.

[durrrr]

i think that they are going all wrong about how to dispurse the aurora coins. they should send newsletters to everyone in iceland or something and not just allow someone to type in info on site and cash them out. gonna cause a lot of problems and theives are going to profit

[dewdeded]

Many respected people are tracking the airdrop and coin closely and found till now nothing suspious.

That people try to game airdrop is pretty obvious. One airdrop is still worth $200 and you find lots of Kennitalas online. Its pretty tempting to try I guess, because you find long lists.

But as I understood it, balduro black-listed lots of kennitalas that are online findable.
People fail with kennitala + Facebook Auth, that is why they ask for islandic SMS numbers.
But I think the reason their request fails is, that balduro black-listed online avaible kennitalas.
So online Kennitalas + SMS would also fail.

[Spoetnik]

bull shit..
people are selling Icelandic identities to claim free coins in bulk. so no your completely wrong buddy.

[dewdeded]

You have any proof like a link or a screenshot?

[ebliever]

bull shit..
people are selling Icelandic identities to claim free coins in bulk. so no your completely wrong buddy.

Selling them because they cannot use them themselves (found out they are worthless). The excuses here are endless. The airdrop was/is a wild success so far.