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[phm]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do not want to get into ASIC because it's already low-power; I wouldn't take advantage of my free power. Building some basic PC cases is the way to go ı believe,with relatively modern CPUs.

Buy some used blade servers on ebay, this way you will get a lot of cores in small space.

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[DuvajBalone]

Hey guys....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg5690968#msg5690968

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg5691235#msg5691235

So this is the end for CPU mining  , it was just a matter of time

[suky321]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do not want to get into ASIC because it's already low-power; I wouldn't take advantage of my free power. Building some basic PC cases is the way to go ı believe,with relatively modern CPUs.

I've seen a blade server with 40 cores, but it needs 8000W to run it, is that really worth it? That's costing around £1 and hour on energy.

[massiveman]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do not want to get into ASIC because it's already low-power; I wouldn't take advantage of my free power. Building some basic PC cases is the way to go ı believe,with relatively modern CPUs.

I've seen a blade server with 40 cores, but it needs 8000W to run it, is that really worth it? That's costing around £1 and hour on energy.

that seems silly, i have 24 cores in my pc which is 750w, I'd say it isn't worth it.

[suky321]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do not want to get into ASIC because it's already low-power; I wouldn't take advantage of my free power. Building some basic PC cases is the way to go ı believe,with relatively modern CPUs.

I've seen a blade server with 40 cores, but it needs 8000W to run it, is that really worth it? That's costing around £1 and hour on energy.

that seems silly, i have 24 cores in my pc which is 750w, I'd say it isn't worth it.

Did you build your PC yourself, or is it one that you can buy off the shelf?

[massiveman]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do not want to get into ASIC because it's already low-power; I wouldn't take advantage of my free power. Building some basic PC cases is the way to go ı believe,with relatively modern CPUs.

I've seen a blade server with 40 cores, but it needs 8000W to run it, is that really worth it? That's costing around £1 and hour on energy.

that seems silly, i have 24 cores in my pc which is 750w, I'd say it isn't worth it.

Did you build your PC yourself, or is it one that you can buy off the shelf?

had mine built to spec at www.scan.co.uk, 6k pc though.

[suky321]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do not want to get into ASIC because it's already low-power; I wouldn't take advantage of my free power. Building some basic PC cases is the way to go ı believe,with relatively modern CPUs.

I've seen a blade server with 40 cores, but it needs 8000W to run it, is that really worth it? That's costing around £1 and hour on energy.

that seems silly, i have 24 cores in my pc which is 750w, I'd say it isn't worth it.

Did you build your PC yourself, or is it one that you can buy off the shelf?

had mine built to spec at www.scan.co.uk, 6k pc though.

wow, you paid £6k for a PC? Do you have any other use for it apart from mining? That's quite a lot of CPU power.

[keccak512]

devs when you get a change could you please let us know about this gpu support for cpu mining which has been linked above?

To the best of our knowledge it's not possible.  It sounds like he's achieved a speedup for some of the underlying hash functions (to be expected), but the overall hash still requires a CPU.  Later on he says "provided that we achieve the necessary speed-ups for this to be worthwhile", which implies he's unsure of the final results.

[massiveman]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do not want to get into ASIC because it's already low-power; I wouldn't take advantage of my free power. Building some basic PC cases is the way to go ı believe,with relatively modern CPUs.

I've seen a blade server with 40 cores, but it needs 8000W to run it, is that really worth it? That's costing around £1 and hour on energy.

that seems silly, i have 24 cores in my pc which is 750w, I'd say it isn't worth it.

Did you build your PC yourself, or is it one that you can buy off the shelf?

had mine built to spec at www.scan.co.uk, 6k pc though.

wow, you paid £6k for a PC? Do you have any other use for it apart from mining? That's quite a lot of CPU power.

yeah i basically mine with gpu on it also but mainly I just wanted a monster that will be pretty future proof and so far I love it, does exactly what it says on the tin. I can game to the max if i want while still using 67% of the cpus to mine. In fact for use as a normal pc its fine when using 47 of the 48 threads to mine. don't get me wrong i don't have buckets of money but I had an ebay business over the xmas period and used the profits to buy this thing, boom!. if you want to be a CPU miner just buy second hand servers from ebay.

[suky321]

devs when you get a change could you please let us know about this gpu support for cpu mining which has been linked above?

To the best of our knowledge it's not possible.  It sounds like he's achieved a speedup for some of the underlying hash functions (to be expected), but the overall hash still requires a CPU.  Later on he says "provided that we achieve the necessary speed-ups for this to be worthwhile", which implies he's unsure of the final results.

For the coins sake, I hope he/she's unsuccessful. 

[massiveman]

devs when you get a change could you please let us know about this gpu support for cpu mining which has been linked above?

To the best of our knowledge it's not possible.  It sounds like he's achieved a speedup for some of the underlying hash functions (to be expected), but the overall hash still requires a CPU.  Later on he says "provided that we achieve the necessary speed-ups for this to be worthwhile", which implies he's unsure of the final results.

Thanks Dev, that's what I thought in fairness, plus logically most gpu miners only have single core processors so it wont give them a huge spike in performance and any improvement will make it impossible to gpu mine at the same time.

[deadthings]

devs when you get a change could you please let us know about this gpu support for cpu mining which has been linked above?

To the best of our knowledge it's not possible.  It sounds like he's achieved a speedup for some of the underlying hash functions (to be expected), but the overall hash still requires a CPU.  Later on he says "provided that we achieve the necessary speed-ups for this to be worthwhile", which implies he's unsure of the final results.

For the coins sake, I hope he/she's unsuccessful. 

The Christians will be successful - make no mistake about that. GPU mining is coming and it's coming soon. And yes, while they may be unsure of the final results, 8x performance ain't too shabby for alpha-stage code.

[massiveman]

devs when you get a change could you please let us know about this gpu support for cpu mining which has been linked above?

To the best of our knowledge it's not possible.  It sounds like he's achieved a speedup for some of the underlying hash functions (to be expected), but the overall hash still requires a CPU.  Later on he says "provided that we achieve the necessary speed-ups for this to be worthwhile", which implies he's unsure of the final results.

For the coins sake, I hope he/she's unsuccessful. 

The Christians will be successful - make no mistake about that. GPU mining is coming and it's coming soon. And yes, while they may be unsure of the final results, 8x performance ain't too shabby for alpha-stage code.

I think 8x improvement is too shabby when it means sacrificing the ability to gpu mine also. whos gonna really benefit? those with decent cpus and decent gpus in the same rig. most gpu miners have shitty single core processors which in this instance will be turned into 8 threads but again to do this they lose the ability to gpu mine other coins.

[deadthings]

I think 8x improvement is too shabby when it means sacrificing the ability to gpu mine also. whos gonna really benefit? those with decent cpus and decent gpus in the same rig. most gpu miners have shitty single core processors which in this instance will be turned into 8 threads but again to do this they lose the ability to gpu mine other coins.

That's a constant though - no matter what coin you ARE mining, you're NOT mining all the others. If you think of mining as lost opportunity on every coin that you're not mining, then you, my friend, are a pessimist of considerable capacity!

[snapped]

I think 8x improvement is too shabby when it means sacrificing the ability to gpu mine also. whos gonna really benefit? those with decent cpus and decent gpus in the same rig. most gpu miners have shitty single core processors which in this instance will be turned into 8 threads but again to do this they lose the ability to gpu mine other coins.

High end AMD cpus are pretty cheap and it`s not that changing mobo and cpu on mining rig is hard.

[massiveman]

I think 8x improvement is too shabby when it means sacrificing the ability to gpu mine also. whos gonna really benefit? those with decent cpus and decent gpus in the same rig. most gpu miners have shitty single core processors which in this instance will be turned into 8 threads but again to do this they lose the ability to gpu mine other coins.

That's a constant though - no matter what coin you ARE mining, you're NOT mining all the others. If you think of mining as lost opportunity on every coin that you're not mining, then you, my friend, are a pessimist of considerable capacity!

no my point(which you have clearly missed) is that if you have 4x gpus in a mining rig with a single core processor(this is standard) then are you going to want to continue gpu mining or choose to in essence convert that single core processor into a quad core(8 thread) processor. That one is a no brainer, with an 8 thread processor I could mine very few HVCs per day but in monetary terms it would be much more profitable to just use the rig as intended, as an out and out GPU miner. Thus this 8x increase only really benefits someone who say has a quad core already with a decent gpu which can essential convert it into a 32 core processor for minign HVC. not many in the crypto world have this, they either are a cpu miner with loads of cores and shitty gpus or gpu miners with loads of gpus and shitty single core processors.

[massiveman]

I think 8x improvement is too shabby when it means sacrificing the ability to gpu mine also. whos gonna really benefit? those with decent cpus and decent gpus in the same rig. most gpu miners have shitty single core processors which in this instance will be turned into 8 threads but again to do this they lose the ability to gpu mine other coins.

High end AMD cpus are pretty cheap and it`s not that changing mobo and cpu on mining rig is hard.

this is a good point but again it will take a monetary investment and leave them unable to gpu mine. say they buy quad core amd chips, this will give them essentially 32 cores. o not be able to GPU mine the sacrifice isn't worth it, I have 2x12 core xeons and only get around 280hvc per day from them and the difficulty is low now. Like I said the ones who will benefit are those with good cpus a single nice GPU as well, basically gaming rigs.

[deadthings]

Thank you massiveman - and you are correct that I missed your point somewhat. Your argument makes sense in light of the current state of the GPU miner requiring to offload one of the five algos onto the CPU. However, it's only because the Christians haven't yet managed to accelerate the fifth algo - Groestl. Once that gets sorted, then HVC can be offloaded from the CPU entirely.

Note the distinction between porting and accelerating - they are already able to offload Groestl to GPU just fine. They just haven't been able to accelerate it yet. So mining HVC without significant CPU load is in the works, hence miners will be able to hang onto their beloved Sempies.

[massiveman]

Thank you massiveman - and you are correct that I missed your point somewhat. Your argument makes sense in light of the current state of the GPU miner requiring to offload one of the five algos onto the CPU. However, it's only because the Christians haven't yet managed to accelerate the fifth algo - Groestl. Once that gets sorted, then HVC can be offloaded from the CPU entirely.

Note the distinction between porting and accelerating - they are already able to offload Groestl to GPU just fine. They just haven't been able to accelerate it yet. So mining HVC without significant CPU load is in the works, hence miners will be able to hang onto their beloved Sempies.

You are probably right although I hope they aren't able to offload HVC from CPU altogether because I happen to have a good graphics card in my rig so if I could get the 8x increase I would essentially be running on 192 cores without many others being able to do similar . Regardless though it wont be the death of this coin, being gpu mineable might actually increase the coins popularity. Dark is GPU mineable and that is still doing well.

[doge94]

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Somebody can build for windows.