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November 30, 2018, 11:22:00 AM
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"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.
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November 30, 2018, 11:49:19 AM
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"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

Has anything in history ever gone to the moon?

[ There is actually a name for the hysteria that BITCOIN saw in 2017, its called a parabolic rise, and they all end the same, in collapse. ]

Has it ever been easy for morons to get rich?

Has anyone ever seen a 'rich moron'? A rich Idiot? A rich fool? They simply don't exist in the real-world.

In the entire history of investing have you ever heard a trading-genius to say "HODL"? What they say is buy-low, sell-high, and cut your losses, and let your profits run.

BTC has defied 5,000 years of human investing is the outcome any surprise? That a bunch of newb kids have lost their ass, thinking that this generation was 'different'?

I really think most commenters and posters here are bot's, if you look at the low content, and especially if you post links the there is no context, one classic tell-tale of a bot is they never read the links, just respond based on text in the comment.

The exchanges need fresh blood new suckers to pump&dump Bitcoin, sadly BTC has had its day in the sun, you don't lose $250 Billion USD in capitalization and shug that kind of stuff off, the simple fact, is who the hell is going to step in and BUY this virtual crap?

It's a fitting end, BITCOIN is what it is, and it will stick around, it will find a mean reversion base value that will settle in, eventually the get-rich-quick crowd will move-on and pimp something else to a new generation of suckers.


I like the fact that the speculators get washed out, then BTC can revert to what it was originally intended just a way for people to transmit money,
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November 30, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
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So what's blockchain technology without bitcoin and cryptocurrency.  There has been no time that prices went up without it going down as such that is happening now.  Good coins will recover and never die.  This will really be a test of value and quality such that only good ones will survive this time.  Hodl for your personal reasons,  at the end you won't lose even if price dips. 
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November 30, 2018, 12:28:38 PM
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So what's blockchain technology without bitcoin and cryptocurrency.  There has been no time that prices went up without it going down as such that is happening now.  Good coins will recover and never die.  This will really be a test of value and quality such that only good ones will survive this time.  Hodl for your personal reasons,  at the end you won't lose even if price dips. 

There are plenty of blockchain solutions and tool which do not use crypto currencies at all.

Blockchain does not need crypto.
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November 30, 2018, 12:48:58 PM
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Wow,lots of hatred about bitcoin and the crypto world.OP,did you lost any money due to the crypto price crash?Let me tell you something.Hodlers lose only if they decide to sell at a price that is lower than the price they have bought btc.If some guy had bought bitcoins at 200 USD back in 2014 and he is still holding,he can sell those btc at a big profit,even if the bitcoin price crashes to 2K USD.

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November 30, 2018, 12:51:17 PM
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Wow,lots of hatred about bitcoin and the crypto world.OP,did you lost any money due to the crypto price crash?Let me tell you something.Hodlers lose only if they decide to sell at a price that is lower than the price they have bought btc.If some guy had bought bitcoins at 200 USD back in 2014 and he is still holding,he can sell those btc at a big profit,even if the bitcoin price crashes to 2K USD.

Most people in here are naive fools who bought when the hype was strong - stupidly believeing about going to the moon and getting rich quick.

Most people who bought at 200 USD in 2014 have already sold a large part of that to the fools at rates much much higher and have a comfortable life with their fiat profits paid for by the suckers who are still Bitcoin believers in here
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November 30, 2018, 04:04:41 PM
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Holders can be defeated if they do not have patience, without the patience of the holder, it will only be a loss because they are trapped panic in this decline. Calm down and keep on holding, and bitcoin can certainly increase high.

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November 30, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
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Is i sick After all, I popularly explained to people back in February that they would fall, and to me, you are a fool. OK, I went in June and poked everyone in shit, I’m again - you are a fool, there will be a rebound, 30k in the fall. WELL, OK. So autumn has come. I just went to see the millionaires, what, yachts, business jets, floors in skyscrapers bought off? And millionaires eat up a little and continue to buy ...
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November 30, 2018, 04:32:54 PM
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Wow,lots of hatred about bitcoin and the crypto world.OP,did you lost any money due to the crypto price crash?Let me tell you something.Hodlers lose only if they decide to sell at a price that is lower than the price they have bought btc.If some guy had bought bitcoins at 200 USD back in 2014 and he is still holding,he can sell those btc at a big profit,even if the bitcoin price crashes to 2K USD.

Most people in here are naive fools who bought when the hype was strong - stupidly believeing about going to the moon and getting rich quick.

Most people who bought at 200 USD in 2014 have already sold a large part of that to the fools at rates much much higher and have a comfortable life with their fiat profits paid for by the suckers who are still Bitcoin believers in here

True, only a fool will not sell when profit is at hand.  The problem with people is that they think Bitcoin will steadily go up so they aim for the highest possible profit but little that they know that price fluctuates and crash.  Then they are trapped within that crash that ending them to hold until they can see a decent profit.  There is no harm in hodling but we must know why and when.
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November 30, 2018, 04:59:55 PM
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Even when market is red, you only lose if you sell. Cryto market is cyclical, there's no secret that sooner or later it will recover and if you had patience and hold your coins you will not be in loss.

Blockchain is part of technology and the last 20-30 years technology grown a lot.

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November 30, 2018, 05:11:38 PM
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"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.
(bitcoin, blokchain and cryptocurrency) they are interrelated with each other and they will remain forever, regarding the problem of decreasing bitcoin now we can take it back if we have capital, the base price has shown $ 3700 and has passed, this recovery will not happens in an instant but it takes time to land, I personally still believe

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November 30, 2018, 05:25:19 PM
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Even when market is red, you only lose if you sell. Cryto market is cyclical, there's no secret that sooner or later it will recover and if you had patience and hold your coins you will not be in loss.

Blockchain is part of technology and the last 20-30 years technology grown a lot.

You are a fool, anytime you're in the red you are losing. lol, I guess when BTC returns below $1000 you still isn't at a loss since you didn't sell. How about just holding it forever and never sell even if it goes to $10. You still not at a loss huh? Wow, the mindset of you idiots.
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November 30, 2018, 05:45:58 PM
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Bitcoin had dropped price before and still recover so I don't see reason in your post well only pro investors would understand the benefits of holding and taking advantage of the current situation

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November 30, 2018, 08:11:41 PM
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One truth about hodlers loosing out is because they decided  to loose. Selling and not holding is an option. You refuse to hodl when its low and decide to sell when its low you loose. Hodl when its low and sell when it raises you gain.
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November 30, 2018, 08:18:18 PM
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Bitcoin, in the end, was never to be used as a store value, or to create wealth, so you can not say that the cryptos have already reached their end, because regardless of the price of btc will always be useful as a system of payments and transfers, if they get to stabilize the price, that will be the main use that it will have.

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November 30, 2018, 09:01:01 PM
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"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

I advise you to read about the Bitcoin history
There have been further declines
In far more violent corrections
Many people like you came out of the market
They lost their money
before the currency should rise again.
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November 30, 2018, 09:13:16 PM
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How could such thought come into your mind?? Grin

If you didn't mention the whole market is in a butt now, but it doesn't mean it is dying. Have you ever checked the story of Bitcoin?
Didn't you mention that it had losses already. Stop turning people into panic. We'll return what we've invested and even more.
Such things don't happen in few seconds.
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November 30, 2018, 10:06:00 PM
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"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

Hey, take it easy, maybe we lose this fight, but the war isn't over yet.

Holding is a patience thing, the recipe is 5 years holding to see a real profit, isn't one thing to become rich in a couple of days, so for those who are under panic right now, let's be patient, we all will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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November 30, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
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Thanks for your warning and I appreciate that you care for us.  Smiley

But no hell way that I'm going to sell my bitcoins to limit my losses, even the market isn't shaping well I'm still in profit. Why? I bought some while it was under $1,000 so that makes sense.

Call me the most blind and stupid people that you ever met here in the forum, there's nothing wrong with it. But I've proven that holding do work for those people that's long on it. A pessimist would always be a pessimist and an optimist shall remain as is.
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November 30, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
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Wow,lots of hatred about bitcoin and the crypto world.

Good news it is. Not that long ago people were still convinced the price would hit $20,000 before the end of the year, and now they are bears. The more trash talk, the more fear, the more Bitcoin's doesn't work hurr durr, the more bullish hodlers become about the short term. Tom Lee & Co are an absolute plague to this ecosystem with their retarded way of thinking and predictions.

Corrections are wake up calls for the stupid to understand that chasing easy money results in losses. Looking at how valuable altcoins still are, we may have some room to the downside to shake out the most persistent bagholders. Let it drop.
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