HODL'ers lose. That is no surprise

[Valhalaa]

dont sit and watch prices all day ,there more  other markets where you can make money.big money came in 2017 and left 2018 ,they moved in other markets like stocks forex indices and etc ,value your time dont waste it just keep moving on where  money goes and come back when  crypto uptrend is confirmed 

yeah i think just wait for 3 - 6 month on my TA with Indicator RSI And MACD
and i hope crypto make an bullrun after we were rally for a long time and lost big money for it

[btc-room101]

Wow,lots of hatred about bitcoin and the crypto world.OP,did you lost any money due to the crypto price crash?Let me tell you something.Hodlers lose only if they decide to sell at a price that is lower than the price they have bought btc.If some guy had bought bitcoins at 200 USD back in 2014 and he is still holding,he can sell those btc at a big profit,even if the bitcoin price crashes to 2K USD.

a better example is those people who have been accumulating bitcoin at $200 to $250 range and then price fell down to $150. none of them really lose any money unless they fell for the idiotic FUD and panic sold their precious bitcoins.

currently we are in the same situation. people who have been accumulating in $6000-$7000 range have not really lost any money unless they fell for the FUD and panic sold. and you will soon see their profit when the whales stop manipulating.

There was very little capitalization ( a few million )  pre-2014 so it was easy for bitcoin to go up 100%, or down -100% & back-up. Bouncing $100-$200 is easy on a poker table with a small capitalization.

But now for bitcoin to go back up it would have to go up 1000%, and that my friends is a mathematical impossibility, as the $800 BILLION USD that evaporated  this year isn't coming back to the table,

For BTC to bounce back up, where in the hell is the new money supposed to come from?? Millions of people got burnt, and lost their wealth on the last bitcoin parabolic rise, who in the hell is going to BRING BIG MONEY BACK to a casino rigged by common criminals?

[Shatterlean22]

This is indeed another thread of hatred towards bitcoin, the only way a holder lose out is ,if the project died or if he or she decide to sell off at a lower price ,if not then no loss Here at all

[Summation]

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

Any crypto？ So do you think Bitcoin will also be a dead end? Ok, even though Bitcoin has been dead more than 300 times, it is still alive.
If you think Bitcoin is so vulnerable, why are you coming here，at this Bitcoin forum?

[wow.magic]

Who said HODLERS lose? Well it is up to you. It is situational. If you just hold and not sell, youll lose what? If you are not going to sell what in your hand, youll lose nothing. You will lose if the price of the coin was lower than your investment. Youll just lose if you sell it that time. Think about it

I agree in your opinion cause it's up to you if you sell your coin now, we know the value is down so that you loss if you panic to sell it but if you hold it and wait for increasing you don't have to worry cause you never lose your investment.

[richan]

Holding is for newbies who think without doing anything by just holding bitcoins you can become a billionaire by cashing out anytime you desire. But the truth is expert or those that made their money with crytpocurrency never hold but traded their crypto.

[Juggy777]

Holding is for newbies who think without doing anything by just holding bitcoins you can become a billionaire by cashing out anytime you desire. But the truth is expert or those that made their money with crytpocurrency never hold but traded their crypto.

I completely disagree with you as holding is not just for newbies, but even experienced people cause they understand the importance of holding. The common mistake with holding is, people assume holders never sell we holders do sell, but only when the price is right. As we recently saw many people dumped their coins in looses, and many people like me decided to hodl and sell only when we're in profits. I would never indulge in trading of bitcoins as you're likely to burn your hands, due to it's volatile nature.

[mallorcagold]

Holding is for newbies who think without doing anything by just holding bitcoins you can become a billionaire by cashing out anytime you desire. But the truth is expert or those that made their money with crytpocurrency never hold but traded their crypto.

I completely disagree with you as holding is not just for newbies, but even experienced people cause they understand the importance of holding. The common mistake with holding is, people assume holders never sell we holders do sell, but only when the price is right. As we recently saw many people dumped their coins in looses, and many people like me decided to hodl and sell only when we're in profits. I would never indulge in trading of bitcoins as you're likely to burn your hands, due to it's volatile nature.

I disagree as well. For hodlers it maybe takes longer to make profits but as long as they just keep their coins they will not loose, only when they would panic sell. But a real hodler has balls of steel and just keep his coins.
Hodlers do not sell but in this current situation they shop cheap to profit again in some time.... anyway that's what I am doing. I m expanding my hodl portfolio...

[muhdede]

"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

Your statement is so crucial for the crypto market, what you need to know is that the crypto market does not always run well and every coin has a community that determines the value of the coin. crypto technology will change the market for the better and history has proven it, current value is not forever but in the future market will back normal again

[Zalaster]

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I disagree as well. For hodlers it maybe takes longer to make profits but as long as they just keep their coins they will not loose, only when they would panic sell. But a real hodler has balls of steel and just keep his coins.
Hodlers do not sell but in this current situation they shop cheap to profit again in some time.... anyway that's what I am doing. I m expanding my hodl portfolio...

I fully agree with you, because I am tired of hearing predictions about the collapse of Bitcoin. Why do these people come to Bitcoin, if they do not understand the elementary foundations of the market, they are not even enthusiasts, and those who want to get rich without losing anything without doing anything. I'm really sorry that there are many such people, because by selling Bitcoin on the way down, they make it a little weaker by acting together. This is very bad, but I hope that those who are know Bitcoin and believe in it will remain in place. I support, I make the portfolio thicker and just HODL...

[dodgrad]

If we are talking about "hodlers" who have been holding BTC for several years, then there is no way that anyone would lose. Even if someone bought at the top of the bubble in 2014, it now has a 300% profit. If we are talking about someone who keeps BTC for a year, he is not a "hodler" , but only a medium-term investor.

[Jet Cash]

Is it worth reading this thread? HODLers don't lose until they sell, and by definition, they probably won't do that for another couple of years. In a couple of years Bitcoin will be worth considerably more than the current under-value. Well that's my opinion anyway.

[rosemary4u]

So what's blockchain technology without bitcoin and cryptocurrency.  There has been no time that prices went up without it going down as such that is happening now.  Good coins will recover and never die.  This will really be a test of value and quality such that only good ones will survive this time.  Hodl for your personal reasons,  at the end you won't lose even if price dips. 

There are plenty of blockchain solutions and tool which do not use crypto currencies at all.

Blockchain does not need crypto.

Your opinion that blockchain technology does not need crypto is really debatable. This is because most blockchain based projects usually conduct ICOs to generate their own tokens and this has being the norm. I see crypto especially bitcoin as the driving force behind blockchain technology.

[ushivanka92]

i got many defferant cripto coins but i dont think about it high....

[Sandus_Cryptolover]

Not until any Holder sells off his/her Bitcoin of cryptocurrencies, he's yet to actually be in any loss. So Holders may (not) be in nay loss depending on his decision during the dip.

[mekie]

It sounds like you may have lost rather a lot of money? If you jump into a market when it's already at the peak or near it, hoping for a massive rise then you are going to be disappointed. As another pointer has pointed out and i have on other threads if you bought when it was at say $200-1,000 then you are still showing a good profit.

[pixie85]

Is it worth reading this thread? HODLers don't lose until they sell, and by definition, they probably won't do that for another couple of years. In a couple of years Bitcoin will be worth considerably more than the current under-value. Well that's my opinion anyway.

One Bitcoin is still one Bitcoin! If you value your fiat, get out, or keep watching the fiat value getting lower and cry for it every day, because that's what you came here for. Not for the technology, not for the long term investment.
Long term thinking and seeing the big picture is what matters. Most people can't do it and never will, that's why most people are poor.

[Cryptoreflector_666]

"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

I wonder on what grounds you make such conclusions? This situation has happened more than once and people like you shouted loudly that everything needs to be sold and that the future of the cryptocurrency is not. And then? Every time, the same thing happens: the cryptocurrency depreciates by 80% and soars up again.

[Sirait]

"I told you so" comes to mind.

I warned everyone in here again and again in the beginning of 2018.

Get out of Bitcoin as fast as you can to limit your losses.

Everytime so-called "experts" and "investors" in here said to HODL. Bitcoin would soon go to the moon.

Only the most blind and stupid still believe Bitcoin will ever recover.

The sooner you get out, the smaller your loss. If you wait, you can be sure the loss will be even bigger.

Blockchain technology has a great future, but cryptocurrencies - any crypto -  are a dead end.

You won't know the future before you experience it, too soon to conclude Bitcoin is dead is not good, believe me, patience will produce sweet fruit in the future, Bitcoin go to the moon in the future.

[vgk88]

At the beginning of this year, all cryptocurrencies had a high price. By this, I think that this year is considered a complete failure.