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April 18, 2019, 11:17:47 AM
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It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
Some people just don't understand the importance of MSD which is why they underestimate him whenever he fails and he replies in an epic manner always.

There are a lot more important factors when compared to strike rate like Dhoni's experience(He freaking lifted a World cup in both formats), amazing batsman, lightning fast wicket-keeping skills, ability to stay calm and composed and the list goes on. Kohli is lucky to have by his side!
And don't forget in the field, most of the time you will see Dhoni is actively advising the players. Kholi is the official captain but in the field Dhoni's role is more than a captain.

Check IPL performance of RCB. RCB has a very strong team. All are performer but why are they failing. Bad management, bad calling. Kohli takes bad decision and we are seeing the result already. They are out from the tournament losing 7 matches out of the 8 so far if I am not wrong.
Kohli basically could not lead a team of strong players effectively while MSD almost always does it which is why I will be sad to see him hang his boots most likely once the World cup concludes.

I am hoping that Kohli won't repeat the same mistakes with the main team which he made with RCB.

RCB has some of the best players in the world, but it is not a very balanced team. For example, if someone fails in the pace-bowling department, then there is no good replacement. Look at the current form of Umesh Yadav. Also, they don't have any world class spinners like Rashid Khan.

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@ raja bhai I understand your sentiments about Dhoni's failure, I have seen his bad performances as well but only with the bat so far. Having said that.

Indian fans and team management not expecting Dhoni to play match winning inning with the bat. Everyone is aware of that he's not young anymore and can't play destructive innings.

Dhoni's role in middle order is more like a anchoring the inning if Indian top order fail to perform and wickets keep falling from another end. If in this world cup Dhoni managed to maintain his strike rate close to 100, then job well done.

It's true that during his innings sometimes he creates pressure on non striking batsman but it's part of the deal and comes with the packaging, no one can argue or do much about that.

His main role here is wicket keeping and he's arguably one of the best and clever wicket keeper in the world cricket. Dhoni has tons of strategies to share with bowlers and viral from behind the wickets.

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April 18, 2019, 01:43:28 PM
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@ raja bhai I understand your sentiments about Dhoni's failure, I have seen his bad performances as well but only with the bat so far. Having said that.

Indian fans and team management not expecting Dhoni to play match winning inning with the bat. Everyone is aware of that he's not young anymore and can't play destructive innings.

Dhoni's role in middle order is more like a anchoring the inning if Indian top order fail to perform and wickets keep falling from another end. If in this world cup Dhoni managed to maintain his strike rate close to 100, then job well done.

It's true that during his innings sometimes he creates pressure on non striking batsman but it's part of the deal and comes with the packaging, no one can argue or do much about that.

His main role here is wicket keeping and he's arguably one of the best and clever wicket keeper in the world cricket. Dhoni has tons of strategies to share with bowlers and viral from behind the wickets.

Hey while it’s true the ex Indian captain has been been choosen for his experience, and his abilities behind the wicket. I feel the selecters have erred in not picking Pant who would have provided support for his slow batting, and he could also play the game changer innings which would have won India many matches. Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.

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April 18, 2019, 02:49:53 PM
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Hey while it’s true the ex Indian captain has been been choosen for his experience, and his abilities behind the wicket. I feel the selecters have erred in not picking Pant who would have provided support for his slow batting, and he could also play the game changer innings which would have won India many matches. Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.

Believe me I am big fan of rishab Pant and I really wanted to see him in Indian squad and then in playing XI for worldcup.

Also I heard the news that majority of selectors voted for rishab Pant but virat kohli refused to take rishab in squad due to his irresponsible shots. According to him he's not trusted batsman in odi atm.

And virat is not wrong here because rishab didn't do any justice with himself either, we all have seen how he threw away his wicket on many occasions.

Indian middle order is very shaky and not even tested properly because Dinesh Karthik didn't batted much on number 4 or 5 and Vijay Shankar is new. They both have capabilities and they proved time to time. Let's just hope that they can perform in big tournament as well. If not then India is in big trouble here. Then this discussion will catch up some fire " why Pant was not selected?

Kedar and hardik can play their part as well. Hardik can do wonders in lower order if he gets going.


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April 18, 2019, 04:46:42 PM
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Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.
India's batting lineup is weak? Lol. The Indian batting lineup is one of the most feared batting lineups in the world currently. MSD, Rohit, Hardik, Dhawan, Kohli etc are some of the best batsmen in the world.

You need to do your research before making such bold statements.




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Also let’s hope their decision to drop Pant doesn’t backfire, cause India’s batting line up is weak except Kohli who can alone score a lot of runs.
India's batting lineup is weak? Lol. The Indian batting lineup is one of the most feared batting lineups in the world currently. MSD, Rohit, Hardik, Dhawan, Kohli etc are some of the best batsmen in the world.

You need to do your research before making such bold statements.

No one in their right mind will say that the Indian batting line-up is weak. Virat Kohli alone is capable of defeating all the opposition teams. Their only concern should be about the pace-bowling options. One thing that I noticed during the 1999 World Cup is that the pacers need some time to get adjusted to the English conditions. Back then, the Indian bowlers struggled initially (esp. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad), but as the tournament progressed, they started performing consistently.

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April 18, 2019, 06:09:28 PM
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WTH? No Amir?

Amir left out of Pakistan's World Cup squad

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1188332

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Fast bowler Mohammad Amir has been omitted from Pakistan’s 15-man preliminary squad for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup, but has been included for their ODI series against England.

I think PCB will first have a look at Amir's current performance in the ODI series against England (which will be played just before the World Cup). If Amir succeeds in satisfying the coach and captain within the series, he'll get the chance in the World Cup squad.

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April 18, 2019, 06:15:53 PM
 #348

~snip~

No one in their right mind will say that the Indian batting line-up is weak. Virat Kohli alone is capable of defeating all the opposition teams. Their only concern should be about the pace-bowling options. One thing that I noticed during the 1999 World Cup is that the pacers need some time to get adjusted to the English conditions. Back then, the Indian bowlers struggled initially (esp. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad), but as the tournament progressed, they started performing consistently.
India's batting team is always strong, it was and it is without any doubt however there were always concerns with their blowing unit. But, in the last few years they improved in this department and doing very well.

I think it will be injustice to the Indian current bowling unit with the bowling unit they used to have in 1999. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad were not as good as the bowlers they have now.

Jasprit Bhumrah (Rank: 1 Point: 774)
Kuldeep Yadav (Rank: 7 Point: 689)
Yuzvendra Chahal (Rank: 8 Point: 680)
Bhuvneshwar Kumar (Rank: 15 Point: 619)
Mohammed Shami (Rank: 34 Point: 549)
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/odi/bowling

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April 18, 2019, 06:30:16 PM
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~snip~

No one in their right mind will say that the Indian batting line-up is weak. Virat Kohli alone is capable of defeating all the opposition teams. Their only concern should be about the pace-bowling options. One thing that I noticed during the 1999 World Cup is that the pacers need some time to get adjusted to the English conditions. Back then, the Indian bowlers struggled initially (esp. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad), but as the tournament progressed, they started performing consistently.
India's batting team is always strong, it was and it is without any doubt however there were always concerns with their blowing unit. But, in the last few years they improved in this department and doing very well.

I think it will be injustice to the Indian current bowling unit with the bowling unit they used to have in 1999. Javagal Srinath and Venkatesh Prasad were not as good as the bowlers they have now.

Jasprit Bhumrah (Rank: 1 Point: 774)
Kuldeep Yadav (Rank: 7 Point: 689)
Yuzvendra Chahal (Rank: 8 Point: 680)
Bhuvneshwar Kumar (Rank: 15 Point: 619)
Mohammed Shami (Rank: 34 Point: 549)
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/odi/bowling

WOW! Those are some awesome ranks. I didn't know that Bumrah was the number one bowler in the world LOL. Honestly, it feels like there are no longer some very good fast bowlers available in the world anymore, the "great" bowlers like Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar.

If India wins the world cup, I'm sure that the major role will be played by Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal.

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April 18, 2019, 06:36:58 PM
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~snip~

WOW! Those are some awesome ranks. I didn't know that Bumrah was the number one bowler in the world LOL. Honestly, it feels like there are no longer some very good fast bowlers available in the world anymore, the "great" bowlers like Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar.

If India wins the world cup, I'm sure that the major role will be played by Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal.
Oh man!
Some golden bowling legends in their time:
Brett Lee, Shoaib Akhtar
Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis
Courtney Walsh, Curtly Ambrose

When you have their names, you see speed (Wasim had variation. He could hit a coin on the pitch in a raw). Now a days fast bolers are meh, we don't mind to hit us a boundary but back then, hitting a boundary used to make the bowler angry.

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April 19, 2019, 02:47:13 AM
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England world cup squad 2019


Eoin Morgan (captain), Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler (wicketkeeper), Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Alex Hales, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.

Looks pretty balanced team, little controversy and different point of view over jofra archer. Selectors want to include him in squad but current players objected that jofra should not play in world cup.

Reason : jofra is born in Barbados and qualified to playing for English team in march 2019 and it's not fair to other cricketers who are already member of England team and performing well for country.

Michael Vaughan says that jofra will play for England in world cup or he will be naked 😂😂

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April 19, 2019, 06:12:55 AM
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It's a fact that Dhoni may have poor strike rate but whom else do you think fir for that position, with all of his experiences, tactics? You know there's no other option. Kartik will barely play better than Dhoni. KL Rahul isn't too performed as well as not experienced. Whom do you think better fit for the place?
Some people just don't understand the importance of MSD which is why they underestimate him whenever he fails and he replies in an epic manner always.

There are a lot more important factors when compared to strike rate like Dhoni's experience(He freaking lifted a World cup in both formats), amazing batsman, lightning fast wicket-keeping skills, ability to stay calm and composed and the list goes on. Kohli is lucky to have by his side!
And don't forget in the field, most of the time you will see Dhoni is actively advising the players. Kholi is the official captain but in the field Dhoni's role is more than a captain.

Check IPL performance of RCB. RCB has a very strong team. All are performer but why are they failing. Bad management, bad calling. Kohli takes bad decision and we are seeing the result already. They are out from the tournament losing 7 matches out of the 8 so far if I am not wrong.

Yes, you are right why they are failing nobody don't know even though they have consistent with a lot of experience in many matches. Even at the batting side, Kohli is failing to make runs, yes Dhoni is actively participating in every aspect of teams winning.

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Reason : jofra is born in Barbados and qualified to playing for English team in march 2019 and it's not fair to other cricketers who are already member of England team and performing well for country.

Michael Vaughan says that jofra will play for England in world cup or he will be naked 😂😂
This isn't justice. He is performing well from his position and deserves a chance in the world cup team. Racism? I don't think it's a good decision, at least from the perspective of sports since sport should be the way of increasing bond towards other nation.
Imrul Kayes from Bangladesh was also not picked for the world cup team while he was one of the top scorer in the last few ODIs. He had a good performance. It's because of the internal politics though.

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Jasprit Bhumrah (Rank: 1 Point: 774)
Kuldeep Yadav (Rank: 7 Point: 689)
Yuzvendra Chahal (Rank: 8 Point: 680)
Bhuvneshwar Kumar (Rank: 15 Point: 619)
Mohammed Shami (Rank: 34 Point: 549)
https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/odi/bowling
Bumrah was at the top from a long period of time and I am not surprised at all. Just look at his bowling performance in the current IPL season. Batsmen fear his unorthodox style and his yorkers and death bowling features are some of the best in the world currently.




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Someone shared this image in telegram channel. Indian team squad funny meme lol.

Just for laugh guys 😂😂😂

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April 19, 2019, 12:32:06 PM
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Reason : jofra is born in Barbados and qualified to playing for English team in march 2019 and it's not fair to other cricketers who are already member of England team and performing well for country.

Michael Vaughan says that jofra will play for England in world cup or he will be naked 😂😂
This isn't justice. He is performing well from his position and deserves a chance in the world cup team. Racism? I don't think it's a good decision, at least from the perspective of sports since sport should be the way of increasing bond towards other nation.
Imrul Kayes from Bangladesh was also not picked for the world cup team while he was one of the top scorer in the last few ODIs. He had a good performance. It's because of the internal politics though.

No bro!! No case of racism

Both sides have decent arguments and reasons.

Those In favor of jofra saying that he's talented individual and England can use his talent in the world so he should be in the team. (selectors) guess not majority

The one opposing the argument got solid reason as well. They are saying that most of the players preparing for world since last 2 years... playing and winning the matches for England and selection committee can't just airdrop any player out of the blue and ditch other players like this. With this move they are sending wrong signals to players.

Politics in cricket is big problem in Indian subcontinent. Here players gets selected due to favoritism. My home team is in bottom in this regard though when selecting players because in India, majority of times only deserving candidates gets the spot.

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Someone shared this image in telegram channel. Indian team squad funny meme lol.

Just for laugh guys 😂😂😂
It would be interesting if they could come up with something with the first letters. With any letter of the long character names it's suppose to be easy LOL

Anyway, good creative idea :-P

This is what I found: Jawaharlal Nehru
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England world cup squad 2019


Eoin Morgan (captain), Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler (wicketkeeper), Tom Curran, Joe Denly, Alex Hales, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood.

Looks pretty balanced team, little controversy and different point of view over jofra archer. Selectors want to include him in squad but current players objected that jofra should not play in world cup.

Reason : jofra is born in Barbados and qualified to playing for English team in march 2019 and it's not fair to other cricketers who are already member of England team and performing well for country.

Michael Vaughan says that jofra will play for England in world cup or he will be naked 😂😂

Already there is a lot of criticism about the England team. The critics say that they are stealing talent from all over the world. The best player Ireland has ever produced will be captaining England in this tournament (the best Irish pacer also represented England in tests). Leus du Plooy was the most recent player to defect from South Africa to England, under the Kolpak loophole. Currently 43 Kolpak players are representing various English county sides and this has resulted in the quality of South African domestic cricket getting affected.

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April 19, 2019, 03:31:13 PM
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Already there is a lot of criticism about the England team. The critics say that they are stealing talent from all over the world. The best player Ireland has ever produced will be captaining England in this tournament (the best Irish pacer also represented England in tests). Leus du Plooy was the most recent player to defect from South Africa to England, under the Kolpak loophole. Currently 43 Kolpak players are representing various English county sides and this has resulted in the quality of South African domestic cricket getting affected.
I don't really see the problem with players from different nations playing for the same team. Every player is free to represent the nation of his choice at the end of the day irrespective of where they are from.

This applies to any sport in the world which is why sports like Cricket, Football etc bring people together.




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April 19, 2019, 03:54:44 PM
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Not sure if anyone posted the South Africans squad. Here we have it:


https://twitter.com/cricketworldcup/status/1118836323203330048

Good to see Imran Tahir. He is in his best shape form wise :-)

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