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April 24, 2019, 11:23:11 AM
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Call it bad luck or double standard but it's done for good and sadly he is out from this world cup squad.
Whatever it is, I think the board should trust their players and the players should trust their management. It is hard to get success in a tournament like World cup when you will not have much understanding in between the management and the players. Best of all, the entire country need to trust both their cricket board and the team.

I think whole India should be united and support their team no matter what they do. This will inspire the players to perform well. Leave everything aside and cheer up the team that will be going to the world cup tour.

The same apply for rest of the teams tool

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April 24, 2019, 11:56:24 AM
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Whatever it is, I think the board should trust their players and the players should trust their management. It is hard to get success in a tournament like World cup when you will not have much understanding in between the management and the players. Best of all, the entire country need to trust both their cricket board and the team.

I think whole India should be united and support their team no matter what they do. This will inspire the players to perform well. Leave everything aside and cheer up the team that will be going to the world cup tour.

The same apply for rest of the teams tool
Well said. Everyone will obviously root for the teams of their choice at the end of the day. If Shankar ends up performing well, everyone will forget about him being chosen over Pant and Rayudu, but the reverse will be the case if he underperforms.

Pressure is on him to perform well during the tournament.




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April 24, 2019, 03:29:44 PM
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Whatever it is, I think the board should trust their players and the players should trust their management. It is hard to get success in a tournament like World cup when you will not have much understanding in between the management and the players. Best of all, the entire country need to trust both their cricket board and the team.

I think whole India should be united and support their team no matter what they do. This will inspire the players to perform well. Leave everything aside and cheer up the team that will be going to the world cup tour.

The same apply for rest of the teams tool
Well said. Everyone will obviously root for the teams of their choice at the end of the day. If Shankar ends up performing well, everyone will forget about him being chosen over Pant and Rayudu, but the reverse will be the case if he underperforms.

Pressure is on him to perform well during the tournament.

First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.

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April 24, 2019, 05:04:32 PM
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First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.
Good point. 2023 is a long way away and many prospective players can emerge in that time frame which is why I won't be predicting anything so far into the future. Best example is Shami. He was basically cast aside and has worked hard and surprised everyone and is now a part of the World Cup squad.

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April 24, 2019, 05:28:17 PM
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First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.
You have mentioned a lot of players. I can't see anyone other than Pant and Samson will be in the 2023 squad. For your info, most of the current players will also be playing in the next world cup too although form matters.

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April 24, 2019, 06:47:48 PM
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Way better? I disagree completely. The only reason he was chosen over Rayudu or Pant was because of his 3 Dimensional skills.

Pant and Rayudu are way better in the batting aspect in comparison, but they cannot bowl and India have enough wicketkeepers in their squad.
May be this is the reason. India already have Dhoni, Kartik and KL Rahul is in the team already. There's no point of including more wicket keepers. Vijay has the advantage there.
India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..

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April 24, 2019, 08:04:19 PM
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~snip~
India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..
Each team will play against each others in the group stage. So Pakistan will face India as well as all other team. Same with the others too.
Check this: https://www.cricketworldcup.com/fixtures

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April 25, 2019, 03:51:07 AM
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India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..
Each team will play against each others in the group stage. So Pakistan will face India as well as all other team. Same with the others too.
Check this: https://www.cricketworldcup.com/fixtures
He meant Pakistan will perform better against India  Cheesy
I would like to see that's what happening. Current Pakistan team is weak one although India vs Pakistan matches can be different.

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First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.

My bet on this playing XI. chances are we are going to see this squad in starting phase.

1 Sikhar
2. Rohit
3. Virat
4. Shankar
5. Dhoni
6. Kedar
7.Hardik
8.Kuldeep
9.Chahal
10.Shami
11. Bumrah

4 regular bowler ( 2 seamer and 2 spinner) and 1 seamer allrounder (hardik) along with 2 batsmen cum part time bowlers ( Shankar, Kedar) this combination can work for India. Shankar can bowl 3-4 over, Kedar can act as a surprise factor, he can give 10 overs as well on his day. pandaya can bowl 5-6 over easily but would like to see him bowling atleast 8 overs average in world cup.

After that team could change according to pitch and performance.

If Opening pairs fails then KL will join the squad. Indian management can use him at number 3 as well and virat moving at number 4, we have seen this before. this will happen if Shankar fails to perform with the bat ( this looks worst scenario to me)

I am in favour of Kuldeep and chahal duo but if something goes wrong then hammer could drop on Chahal and Jadeja will take his place as a bowling allrounder, he can give 10 over easily and can do okay batting down in the lower order if situation demands.

If by any chance pitch favouring Fast bowler then Bhuvi can join the pace battery, again Chahal out in this scenario too unless kuldeep performing badly. this gives India 4 seamer option with 1 wrist spinner and part timers bowlers like Kedar jadhav and Shankar.

Dinesh kartik is last person to get in the playing XI IMHO. for this to happen KL Rahul and Vijay Shankar need to fail miserably, not a good scenario if you are Indian fan




For future India got good backup.

Prithvi, Shubham gill leading the way and list is very long and good thing is majority of new players are captain materials too. Prithvi, shubham, Shryes, Samson, Pant to name a few. I didn't mentioned fast bowlers and spinners ( India producing good pacer but lacking in producing promising wrist spinner in domestic level, hope for best that it changes in coming years)

Edit : Ishan Kishan added as Pffrt  mentioned about him and sorry if I am forgetting your fav players it may be because list is long list Smiley

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April 25, 2019, 08:21:02 AM
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Way better? I disagree completely. The only reason he was chosen over Rayudu or Pant was because of his 3 Dimensional skills.

Pant and Rayudu are way better in the batting aspect in comparison, but they cannot bowl and India have enough wicketkeepers in their squad.
May be this is the reason. India already have Dhoni, Kartik and KL Rahul is in the team already. There's no point of including more wicket keepers. Vijay has the advantage there.
India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..
Pakistan? Seriously? Have you been watching them recently? Based on recent form, Pakistan does not look like it will even make it to the quarters(Forget beating India). The old Pakistan teams seriously gave other teams a run for their money, but the current team has been under-performing since ages. They have no chance in my opinion.




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Prithvi, Shubham gill leading the way and list is very long and good thing is majority of new players are captain materials too. Prithvi, shubham, Shryes, Samson, Pant to name a few. I didn't mentioned fast bowlers and spinners ( India producing good pacer but lacking in producing promising wrist spinner in domestic level, hope for best that it changes in coming years)
You probably have forgotten to mention Ishan Kishan  Cheesy
He is going to be something big for team India, I'm sure. I have seen his performance. I'm one of his big fan in fact.

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Good insight bud. I left couple merit for you. Sometimes I wonder if it looks bad that most of the merit I sent was to you LOL
Honestly speaking  I enjoy your cricketing analysis.

Few questions: Have you tried to test your cricketing picks in the IPL?
If yes than is there any percentage you can think of. (Accuracy)

World cup will be an interesting event to gamble LOL and you know (I guess) about my gambling interest in cricket LOL
I lost a lot in IPL DAMN!

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April 25, 2019, 07:07:47 PM
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India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..
Really? are you serious or just kidding? Pakistan has no chance to India. I don't think Pakistan will be able to be in the top 6 even. Their performance are too poor these days.

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April 25, 2019, 08:35:07 PM
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~snip~

My bet on this playing XI. chances are we are going to see this squad in starting phase.

1 Sikhar
2. Rohit
3. Virat
4. Shankar
5. Dhoni
6. Kedar
7.Hardik
8.Kuldeep
9.Chahal
10.Shami
11. Bumrah

That 11-player team you mentioned looks perfectly balanced. This time, India is looking as strong as Australia of the early 2000s.

An interesting analysis on India's squad for the World Cup:

https://www.livemint.com/sports/cricket-news/the-three-questions-facing-india-s-world-cup-squad-1556176209412.html

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April 25, 2019, 08:48:39 PM
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First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.

My bet on this playing XI. chances are we are going to see this squad in starting phase.

1 Sikhar
2. Rohit
3. Virat
4. Shankar
5. Dhoni
6. Kedar
7.Hardik
8.Kuldeep
9.Chahal
10.Shami
11. Bumrah

4 regular bowler ( 2 seamer and 2 spinner) and 1 seamer allrounder (hardik) along with 2 batsmen cum part time bowlers ( Shankar, Kedar) this combination can work for India. Shankar can bowl 3-4 over, Kedar can act as a surprise factor, he can give 10 overs as well on his day. pandaya can bowl 5-6 over easily but would like to see him bowling atleast 8 overs average in world cup.

After that team could change according to pitch and performance.

If Opening pairs fails then KL will join the squad. Indian management can use him at number 3 as well and virat moving at number 4, we have seen this before. this will happen if Shankar fails to perform with the bat ( this looks worst scenario to me)

I am in favour of Kuldeep and chahal duo but if something goes wrong then hammer could drop on Chahal and Jadeja will take his place as a bowling allrounder, he can give 10 over easily and can do okay batting down in the lower order if situation demands.

If by any chance pitch favouring Fast bowler then Bhuvi can join the pace battery, again Chahal out in this scenario too unless kuldeep performing badly. this gives India 4 seamer option with 1 wrist spinner and part timers bowlers like Kedar jadhav and Shankar.

Dinesh kartik is last person to get in the playing XI IMHO. for this to happen KL Rahul and Vijay Shankar need to fail miserably, not a good scenario if you are Indian fan




For future India got good backup.

Prithvi, Shubham gill leading the way and list is very long and good thing is majority of new players are captain materials too. Prithvi, shubham, Shryes, Samson, Pant to name a few. I didn't mentioned fast bowlers and spinners ( India producing good pacer but lacking in producing promising wrist spinner in domestic level, hope for best that it changes in coming years)

Edit : Ishan Kishan added as Pffrt  mentioned about him and sorry if I am forgetting your fav players it may be because list is long list Smiley
A very perfect and balanced side you need to be some good post in BCCI because they surely need peoples like you  Smiley

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April 26, 2019, 08:02:31 AM
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India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..
Really? are you serious or just kidding? Pakistan has no chance to India. I don't think Pakistan will be able to be in the top 6 even. Their performance are too poor these days.
Exactly as I mentioned. It is tough to predict how teams will perform in such a tournament under English conditions, but the general consensus is that India or England might lift the cup this year though anything can happen in such a high stakes tournament.




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April 26, 2019, 09:19:42 AM
Last edit: April 26, 2019, 12:22:28 PM by JSRAW
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~snip~

Few questions: Have you tried to test your cricketing picks in the IPL?
If yes than is there any percentage you can think of. (Accuracy)

World cup will be an interesting event to gamble LOL and you know (I guess) about my gambling interest in cricket LOL
I lost a lot in IPL DAMN!

Thanks bhai appreciate that, lol yeah in fact my majority of the merit came from you. if in the future, you are applying for MS then will vouch for you without any second thought Smiley you are glue of our small cricket community with your contribution and everybody can agree on that.

Sorry for your loss in IPL betting, Yes I am aware of that.

IPL or shorter format(20-20) of game analysis demands more time TBH and IPL results are very unpredictable except few games, because game can change with even one ball or over.

Sorry to say but, I am not following Ipl matches much lately due to work so I am not qualified atm and can only provide educated guess just like other users. Having said that will start follow IPL during Last stage.

Yes, I am expecting good competitive world cup in this edition. of course with gambling point of view as well.


~Snip~

That 11-player team you mentioned looks perfectly balanced. This time, India is looking as strong as Australia of the early 2000s.

An interesting analysis on India's squad for the World Cup:

https://www.livemint.com/sports/cricket-news/the-three-questions-facing-india-s-world-cup-squad-1556176209412.html

Article was spot on..

If I am being honest then I didn't had any other choice when picking Playing XI due to lack of tested genuine all rounder so it was my obvious choice. but Virat can surprise every one lol

Its true that Current Indian squad looking balanced but only because of Bowling unit. I don't like to compare team from different era because cricket has changed in drastic way these days due to Batsmen approach towards the game, they are more aggressive now.

Having said that, current Indian batting line up comes nowhere close to previous batting line up ( except Kohli) we should not forget that last decade was led by countless legendary bowlers. current crop of bowlers are exceptionally good around the world but still they have long way to go IMO. ( Its another long discussion that why its tough to be bowler in modern cricket)

A very perfect and balanced side you need to be some good post in BCCI because they surely need peoples like you  Smiley

Thanks bhai, but you are being very kind to me. Just a cricket lover.

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Thanks bhai appreciate that, lol yeah in fact my majority of the merit came from you. if in the future, you are applying for MS then will vouch for you without any second thought Smiley you are glue of our small cricket community with your contribution and everybody can agree on that.

Sorry for your loss in IPL betting, Yes I am aware of that.

IPL or shorter format(20-20) of game analysis demands more time TBH and IPL results are very unpredictable except few games, because game can change with even one ball or over.

Sorry to say but, I am not following Ipl matches much lately due to work so I am not qualified atm and can only provide educated guess just like other users. Having said that will start follow IPL during Last stage.

Yes, I am expecting good competitive world cup in this edition. of course with gambling point of view as well.
Not sure if I will go for MS application, I feel it's a burden honestly.

All the merit I sent so far to anyone with the believe that they deserved it (including you). I love the community (although small), I have love for the Bitcoin too. My signature pays me a bit but that's not the reason why I spend my time here. I stick here because I enjoy the time here as much as I enjoy in my real life. I believe I made some well wisher here who share the same thoughts and that counts for me, cricket is just another platform only.

I am expecting in the world cup I will make some money lol.

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April 27, 2019, 06:47:31 AM
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@JSRAW we need just cricket lovers because they can manage better then these professionals and this can bring some more excitement in game professionals need money and lovers need enjoyment.

The combination of both the lovers and professionalism should be the main goal. If a team has players who love the game, who are sincere to their profession and country, its hard to beat such a team.

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