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June 18, 2019, 03:45:58 AM
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Like I mentioned in the other discussion thread about Bangladesh, they could be the dark horse of this World Cup and I even said that they could sneak into the top 4 and play in the semi-finals. They have shown that they can play well against the good teams and maybe this World Cup is their time to shine. It will take just one slip up from one of the top 4 teams and Bangladesh can sneak in. Right now that team could be New Zealand as they haven't played the top team yet so we could see Bangladesh make it, outside of the top 4 I think Bangladesh is the better team.

There is no need to get excited over a win against the West Indies. The Windies are no longer one of the cricket powerhouses. But it was a good comfortable victory, and will do a lot to strengthen the morale of the Bangladeshi players. But for them, the big test is coming up. Their next match is against Australia on 20th and to be honest I have zero hopes for an upset. And then they will face the South Asian teams (AFG, IND, PAK). Unless they manage to win 3 out of their next 4 matches, I don't think that they can qualify for the playoffs.

 
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June 18, 2019, 04:05:41 AM
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This time the match schedules without pools is making a big change over each and every match. None could have expected such a massive win from Bangladesh. The final four were almost confirmed, but these match results show more changes to happen in the further days.
The world cricket has always underestimated Bangladesh and will continue to do so (just don't know why)... no matter how good they play and what the ICC ranking is. The current ICC ODI ranking for Bangladesh is 7, imo Bangladesh got better in the last couple of years.

Btw, I didn't know that so many countries are playing cricket now, that's amazing. Maybe in future we will see 32 team world cups, any thoughts?

The list is from Twenty20, most of the country is not qualified for ODI & Test.
Pakistan, England, South Africa, Australia, India, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh, Nepal, Scotland, Zimbabwe, Netherlands, Ireland, UAE, PNG, Oman, Hong Kong, Namibia, Qatar, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Jersey, Canada, Denmark, Kuwait, Kenya, Norway, USA, Botswana, Ghana, Uganda, Austria, Malaysia, Germany, Nigeria, Guernsey, Sweden, Tanzania, Luxembourg, Spain, Philippines, France, Belize, Peru, Bahrain, Mexico, Fiji, Samoa, Vanuatu, Panama, Belgium, Japan, Costa Rica, Thailand, Argentina, Hungary, Mozambique, Chile, Malawi, Israel, Bhutan, Finland, South Korea, Isle of Man, Malta, Bulgaria, Sierra Leone, Brazil, Czech Republic, St Helena, Maldives, Gibraltar, Myanmar, Indonesia, China, Gambia, Swaziland, Rwanda, Lesotho

 
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June 18, 2019, 05:09:48 AM
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Bangladesh has been playing tremendously for some time and they are definitely the better team than West Indies. They have got some tough matches coming. Hope they would do well.

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June 18, 2019, 10:31:11 AM
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England after winning the toss against Afghanistan have decide to bat and have started quite slow considering that in 14 overs they have reached 68/1. Though they have wickets and will slog in coming overs but if they lose couple of quick wickets then may even go under 300 . Though after ystd match Afghanistan would have more confidence that even they can come close to the England.

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June 18, 2019, 12:40:36 PM
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Bangladesh has been playing tremendously for some time and they are definitely the better team than West Indies. They have got some tough matches coming. Hope they would do well.

Yeah, Bangladesh can go to Semi Finale if they can beat India or Australia.I hope Bangladesh can beat Pakistan, Afghanistan for sure.So, it will be lot easier for them to qualify for the Semi if Tigers can knocked mighty India or Australia.Two days left from facing Australia, This would be a very big match for Bangladesh.They will surely be top of the mountain after beating West Indies easily.                   
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June 18, 2019, 01:50:49 PM
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Bangladesh has played very well and did not expect them to defeat a tough team like WI and chase down over 300 runs in just 42 overs and without even losing much wickets. WI is doing a mistake by making Gayle open as Gayle gets out just too easily.

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June 18, 2019, 02:02:48 PM
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Btw, I didn't know that so many countries are playing cricket now, that's amazing. Maybe in future we will see 32 team world cups, any thoughts?

The list is from Twenty20, most of the country is not qualified for ODI & Test.
Pakistan, England, South Africa, Australia, India, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh, Nepal, Scotland, Zimbabwe, Netherlands, Ireland, UAE, PNG, Oman, Hong Kong, Namibia, Qatar, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Jersey, Canada, Denmark, Kuwait, Kenya, Norway, USA, Botswana, Ghana, Uganda, Austria, Malaysia, Germany, Nigeria, Guernsey, Sweden, Tanzania, Luxembourg, Spain, Philippines, France, Belize, Peru, Bahrain, Mexico, Fiji, Samoa, Vanuatu, Panama, Belgium, Japan, Costa Rica, Thailand, Argentina, Hungary, Mozambique, Chile, Malawi, Israel, Bhutan, Finland, South Korea, Isle of Man, Malta, Bulgaria, Sierra Leone, Brazil, Czech Republic, St Helena, Maldives, Gibraltar, Myanmar, Indonesia, China, Gambia, Swaziland, Rwanda, Lesotho

The ICC has been reducing the number of participants, and I expect it to go down further in the future. They might reduce the current 10 team participation to either 8 or 6 by 2027. As we have seen from this world cup so far, teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa have lost their capability to compete against the major teams such as India and Australia.

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June 18, 2019, 04:22:37 PM
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Btw, I didn't know that so many countries are playing cricket now, that's amazing. Maybe in future we will see 32 team world cups, any thoughts?

The list is from Twenty20, most of the country is not qualified for ODI & Test.
Pakistan, England, South Africa, Australia, India, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh, Nepal, Scotland, Zimbabwe, Netherlands, Ireland, UAE, PNG, Oman, Hong Kong, Namibia, Qatar, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Jersey, Canada, Denmark, Kuwait, Kenya, Norway, USA, Botswana, Ghana, Uganda, Austria, Malaysia, Germany, Nigeria, Guernsey, Sweden, Tanzania, Luxembourg, Spain, Philippines, France, Belize, Peru, Bahrain, Mexico, Fiji, Samoa, Vanuatu, Panama, Belgium, Japan, Costa Rica, Thailand, Argentina, Hungary, Mozambique, Chile, Malawi, Israel, Bhutan, Finland, South Korea, Isle of Man, Malta, Bulgaria, Sierra Leone, Brazil, Czech Republic, St Helena, Maldives, Gibraltar, Myanmar, Indonesia, China, Gambia, Swaziland, Rwanda, Lesotho

The ICC has been reducing the number of participants, and I expect it to go down further in the future. They might reduce the current 10 team participation to either 8 or 6 by 2027. As we have seen from this world cup so far, teams such as Sri Lanka and South Africa have lost their capability to compete against the major teams such as India and Australia.

A six or eight team tournament would not feel like a world cup. For a world cup, we would need teams from around the world. And personally I didn't liked the current single league nature of world cup. There would be no surprise left for semis and finals when all teams would have played with all. If they really want to have a league, they should go with home and away format.

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June 18, 2019, 07:10:59 PM
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Btw, I didn't know that so many countries are playing cricket now, that's amazing. Maybe in future we will see 32 team world cups, any thoughts?
There are many countries playing cricket and they are conducting tournaments between these assiciate countries for a long time and with the introduction of T20 cricket we might see more countries participating in the T20 world cup in the future but not in ODI or Test cricket, the level of talent pool in the top teams in internaional cricket which is ICC full member teams and Associate teams cannot be compared, these associate members usually play in qualifying tournaments before every ICC events and if they qualify they can play in world cup and other ICC events.

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June 18, 2019, 10:39:03 PM
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This might be the first world cup with so much unpredictable results and more matches being washed out due to weather, i made a small bet against Bangladesh against their match with West Indies and on papers West Indies have a long batting line up with batsman who could easily clear the ropes with ease but Bangladesh dominated them while chasing and ending up winning quite easily, any cricket experts here expecting any other upset in this tournament, if so i would like to hear.

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June 18, 2019, 10:40:37 PM
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Like I mentioned in the other discussion thread about Bangladesh, they could be the dark horse of this World Cup and I even said that they could sneak into the top 4 and play in the semi-finals. They have shown that they can play well against the good teams and maybe this World Cup is their time to shine. It will take just one slip up from one of the top 4 teams and Bangladesh can sneak in. Right now that team could be New Zealand as they haven't played the top team yet so we could see Bangladesh make it, outside of the top 4 I think Bangladesh is the better team.

There is no need to get excited over a win against the West Indies. The Windies are no longer one of the cricket powerhouses. But it was a good comfortable victory, and will do a lot to strengthen the morale of the Bangladeshi players. But for them, the big test is coming up. Their next match is against Australia on 20th and to be honest I have zero hopes for an upset. And then they will face the South Asian teams (AFG, IND, PAK). Unless they manage to win 3 out of their next 4 matches, I don't think that they can qualify for the playoffs.

I'm not getting excited my friend, I'm just saying that Bangladesh have a good chance to make the semi-finals. Yes I agree they have a big test coming up as they start to play two of the top teams in the tournament however I can see them winning 2 of the 4 matches coming up. I don't think they will beat Australia and India but the other two matches they can win if they play well. Then they just need New Zealand to drop a few matches and Bangladesh will be in with a shot to make the semi-finals. New Zealand's last couple of matches are against Australia and England and we never know what the WI can do on a good day so potentially New Zealand could lose 3-4 matches coming up so lets see what happens.



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June 19, 2019, 03:01:47 AM
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This might be the first world cup with so much unpredictable results and more matches being washed out due to weather, i made a small bet against Bangladesh against their match with West Indies and on papers West Indies have a long batting line up with batsman who could easily clear the ropes with ease but Bangladesh dominated them while chasing and ending up winning quite easily, any cricket experts here expecting any other upset in this tournament, if so i would like to hear.
2019 world cup is full of expected and unexpected results. The most unexpected being the match between West Indies and Bangladesh where the chasing of target is wild. Yesterday's match too had some unexpected play while Rashid khan of Afghanistan who has got good bowling economy has made a record of the most runs conceded in ten overs.




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Like I mentioned in the other discussion thread about Bangladesh, they could be the dark horse of this World Cup and I even said that they could sneak into the top 4 and play in the semi-finals. They have shown that they can play well against the good teams and maybe this World Cup is their time to shine. It will take just one slip up from one of the top 4 teams and Bangladesh can sneak in. Right now that team could be New Zealand as they haven't played the top team yet so we could see Bangladesh make it, outside of the top 4 I think Bangladesh is the better team.

There is no need to get excited over a win against the West Indies. The Windies are no longer one of the cricket powerhouses. But it was a good comfortable victory, and will do a lot to strengthen the morale of the Bangladeshi players. But for them, the big test is coming up. Their next match is against Australia on 20th and to be honest I have zero hopes for an upset. And then they will face the South Asian teams (AFG, IND, PAK). Unless they manage to win 3 out of their next 4 matches, I don't think that they can qualify for the playoffs.

I'm not getting excited my friend, I'm just saying that Bangladesh have a good chance to make the semi-finals. Yes I agree they have a big test coming up as they start to play two of the top teams in the tournament however I can see them winning 2 of the 4 matches coming up. I don't think they will beat Australia and India but the other two matches they can win if they play well. Then they just need New Zealand to drop a few matches and Bangladesh will be in with a shot to make the semi-finals. New Zealand's last couple of matches are against Australia and England and we never know what the WI can do on a good day so potentially New Zealand could lose 3-4 matches coming up so lets see what happens.

My prediction for the semifinals remain the same: India, Australia, New Zealand and England. Two of them are currently having 8 points, while the other two are having 7 points (but these two have an additional match to spare). Bangladesh only have 5 points from 5 matches and even if they win 3 out of their remaining 4, it will get them to 11 points. New Zealand currently have 7 points from 4 matches. Also, they have the highest NRR for any team in the tournament and they just need to win 2 of their remaining 5 matches to overtake Bangladesh.

 
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June 19, 2019, 06:29:22 PM
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2019 world cup is full of expected and unexpected results. The most unexpected being the match between West Indies and Bangladesh where the chasing of target is wild. Yesterday's match too had some unexpected play while Rashid khan of Afghanistan who has got good bowling economy has made a record of the most runs conceded in ten overs.
I never expected Pakistan to beat a strong batting line up like England and that was an upset for me and i never expected Bangladesh beating South Africa and after their performance against South Africa chasing the total of West Indies was not an upset, i never expected Eoin Morgan to smash Rashid Khan like that and he could concede the most runs.

NZ vs SA, South Africa missed many chances in the field even today and if they could have held on to that catches they could have beaten NZ in this match.

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South Africa have been performing poorly in this World Cup and now have no chance at making the semi-finals after losing to New Zealand. Its the worst I've seen South Africa play in a long time. Well with New Zealand winning it puts them back on top of the table and my thinking that Bangladesh making the semi-finals just got a lot harder as I was hoping that New Zealand would lose this match against South Africa but it wasn't to be so it looks like now we have the semi-finals already unless something drastic happens. Bangladesh will need to beat Australia if they want to keep their semi-final chances alive so lets see what happens but I am expecting Australia to win.



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Like I mentioned in the other discussion thread about Bangladesh, they could be the dark horse of this World Cup and I even said that they could sneak into the top 4 and play in the semi-finals. They have shown that they can play well against the good teams and maybe this World Cup is their time to shine. It will take just one slip up from one of the top 4 teams and Bangladesh can sneak in. Right now that team could be New Zealand as they haven't played the top team yet so we could see Bangladesh make it, outside of the top 4 I think Bangladesh is the better team.

There is no need to get excited over a win against the West Indies. The Windies are no longer one of the cricket powerhouses. But it was a good comfortable victory, and will do a lot to strengthen the morale of the Bangladeshi players. But for them, the big test is coming up. Their next match is against Australia on 20th and to be honest I have zero hopes for an upset. And then they will face the South Asian teams (AFG, IND, PAK). Unless they manage to win 3 out of their next 4 matches, I don't think that they can qualify for the playoffs.

I'm not getting excited my friend, I'm just saying that Bangladesh have a good chance to make the semi-finals. Yes I agree they have a big test coming up as they start to play two of the top teams in the tournament however I can see them winning 2 of the 4 matches coming up. I don't think they will beat Australia and India but the other two matches they can win if they play well. Then they just need New Zealand to drop a few matches and Bangladesh will be in with a shot to make the semi-finals. New Zealand's last couple of matches are against Australia and England and we never know what the WI can do on a good day so potentially New Zealand could lose 3-4 matches coming up so lets see what happens.

I don't think that the two wins (out of the next four matches) for Bangladesh will be enough, they need to get at least three wins in order to qualify for the semi-finals. With two more wins, they'll have only 9 points. IMO, we've three clear semi-finals qualifiers:

-England
-India
-Australia

The fourth spot is solely going to depend upon the net run-rate at the end until and unless New Zealand beats both, the Pakistani team and the West Indies team. In the end, we're going to have three teams with 11 points, and these three teams will potentially be New Zealand, Bangladesh, or Pakistan.

The remaining matches include:

after the '=' sign, I've placed the team that I feel is going to win in that particular match

Aus vs. Ban
Eng vs. Sri = Eng wins
Ind vs. Afg = Ind wins
WI vs. NZ = NZ wins
Pak vs. SA = Pak wins
Ban vs. Afg = Ban wins
Eng vs. Australia = Eng wins
Pak vs. NZ
WI vs. Ind = Ind wins
Sri vs. SA = Sri wins
Pak vs. Afg = Pak wins
NZ vs. Aus
Eng vs. India = Eng wins
Sri vs. WI = WI wins
Ban vs. Ind = Ind wins
Eng vs. NZ = Eng wins
Afg vs. WI = WI wins
Pak vs. Ban
Sri vs. Ind = Ind wins
SA vs. Aus = Aus wins

If the results go according to what I've mentioned, the fourth spot will heavily depend upon the above four bolded matches, as:

-if New Zealand wins both the matches (against Pakistan and Australia), they'll get the fourth spot.

-if Pakistan is able to win against New Zealand and Bangladesh, while New Zealand beats Australia, then New Zealand will still get the fourth spot. If the same happens but Australia succeeds in beating New Zealand, then the net run-rate of New Zealand and Pakistan will be compared.

-OTOH, Bangalis need to get three wins and hope that Kiwis don't get the two wins out of all their matches.

IMO, today's match against Australia of Bangalis is going to be a very important one for their survival in the world cup. Bangladesh CAN do it, they've got the potential and if they remain positive, they can beat Australia.

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June 20, 2019, 03:33:14 AM
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South Africa have been performing poorly in this World Cup and now have no chance at making the semi-finals after losing to New Zealand. Its the worst I've seen South Africa play in a long time. Well with New Zealand winning it puts them back on top of the table and my thinking that Bangladesh making the semi-finals just got a lot harder as I was hoping that New Zealand would lose this match against South Africa but it wasn't to be so it looks like now we have the semi-finals already unless something drastic happens. Bangladesh will need to beat Australia if they want to keep their semi-final chances alive so lets see what happens but I am expecting Australia to win.

I am not much surprised. South Africa has been losing its younger players to countries such as England and New Zealand for a long time. The Kolpak system in England has enabled dozens of South Africans to shift their loyalties to the British county sides. This outflow is not just triggered by the monetary attraction. Politics also plays a significant part, just like the case with Zimbabwe. When the best players get overlooked due to politics, obviously they get dejected and look for other options.

 
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June 20, 2019, 05:31:18 AM
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Like I mentioned in the other discussion thread about Bangladesh, they could be the dark horse of this World Cup and I even said that they could sneak into the top 4 and play in the semi-finals. They have shown that they can play well against the good teams and maybe this World Cup is their time to shine. It will take just one slip up from one of the top 4 teams and Bangladesh can sneak in. Right now that team could be New Zealand as they haven't played the top team yet so we could see Bangladesh make it, outside of the top 4 I think Bangladesh is the better team.

There is no need to get excited over a win against the West Indies. The Windies are no longer one of the cricket powerhouses. But it was a good comfortable victory, and will do a lot to strengthen the morale of the Bangladeshi players. But for them, the big test is coming up. Their next match is against Australia on 20th and to be honest I have zero hopes for an upset. And then they will face the South Asian teams (AFG, IND, PAK). Unless they manage to win 3 out of their next 4 matches, I don't think that they can qualify for the playoffs.

I'm not getting excited my friend, I'm just saying that Bangladesh have a good chance to make the semi-finals. Yes I agree they have a big test coming up as they start to play two of the top teams in the tournament however I can see them winning 2 of the 4 matches coming up. I don't think they will beat Australia and India but the other two matches they can win if they play well. Then they just need New Zealand to drop a few matches and Bangladesh will be in with a shot to make the semi-finals. New Zealand's last couple of matches are against Australia and England and we never know what the WI can do on a good day so potentially New Zealand could lose 3-4 matches coming up so lets see what happens.

I don't think that the two wins (out of the next four matches) for Bangladesh will be enough, they need to get at least three wins in order to qualify for the semi-finals. With two more wins, they'll have only 9 points. IMO, we've three clear semi-finals qualifiers:

-England
-India
-Australia

The fourth spot is solely going to depend upon the net run-rate at the end until and unless New Zealand beats both, the Pakistani team and the West Indies team. In the end, we're going to have three teams with 11 points, and these three teams will potentially be New Zealand, Bangladesh, or Pakistan.

The remaining matches include:

after the '=' sign, I've placed the team that I feel is going to win in that particular match

Aus vs. Ban
Eng vs. Sri = Eng wins
Ind vs. Afg = Ind wins
WI vs. NZ = NZ wins
Pak vs. SA = Pak wins
Ban vs. Afg = Ban wins
Eng vs. Australia = Eng wins
Pak vs. NZ
WI vs. Ind = Ind wins
Sri vs. SA = Sri wins
Pak vs. Afg = Pak wins
NZ vs. Aus
Eng vs. India = Eng wins
Sri vs. WI = WI wins
Ban vs. Ind = Ind wins
Eng vs. NZ = Eng wins
Afg vs. WI = WI wins
Pak vs. Ban
Sri vs. Ind = Ind wins
SA vs. Aus = Aus wins

If the results go according to what I've mentioned, the fourth spot will heavily depend upon the above four bolded matches, as:

-if New Zealand wins both the matches (against Pakistan and Australia), they'll get the fourth spot.

-if Pakistan is able to win against New Zealand and Bangladesh, while New Zealand beats Australia, then New Zealand will still get the fourth spot. If the same happens but Australia succeeds in beating New Zealand, then the net run-rate of New Zealand and Pakistan will be compared.

-OTOH, Bangalis need to get three wins and hope that Kiwis don't get the two wins out of all their matches.

IMO, today's match against Australia of Bangalis is going to be a very important one for their survival in the world cup. Bangladesh CAN do it, they've got the potential and if they remain positive, they can beat Australia.

England, NZ, India and OZ by far has being the top 4 teams if you see the way they have played cricket deserve to be in the top 4 for the semi final place. It would be interesting to see among thise top 4 who makes it to the finals of the WC

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June 20, 2019, 12:54:26 PM
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South Africa have been performing poorly in this World Cup and now have no chance at making the semi-finals after losing to New Zealand. Its the worst I've seen South Africa play in a long time. Well with New Zealand winning it puts them back on top of the table and my thinking that Bangladesh making the semi-finals just got a lot harder as I was hoping that New Zealand would lose this match against South Africa but it wasn't to be so it looks like now we have the semi-finals already unless something drastic happens. Bangladesh will need to beat Australia if they want to keep their semi-final chances alive so lets see what happens but I am expecting Australia to win.

South Africa’s team management is to be blamed for their debacle as their decision of not taking Ab De Villiers, has completely backfired on them as his experience would have helped them win many matches. The semifinal’s slots have been filled as per the current standings with New Zealand, Australia, England and India proceeding ahead unless they loose their remaining matches. Australia won’t be loosing out to Bangladesh, and I have a feeling they’ll defeat Bangladesh easily.

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June 20, 2019, 02:42:24 PM
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Clearly England, New Zealand, Australia and India would be in the semi finals.
The position could be difficult to predict. India hasn't lost any match so hasn't New Zealand. Both of England and Australia has lost one.
The first on the league would compete with the fourth while the third will take the second. I believe it would be England and India in the finals and I'd hope it would rain.
I don't wan to see England again being defeated in the final on it's own ground.

 
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