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December 18, 2018, 08:22:13 PM
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Isn't a more fundamental cause of the problem the fact that "money" earns more money than "work"? It just keeps spiralling down, meaning you have to work more and more to be able to afford the same things, making it less and less likely to become wealthy, while the ones who are wealthy already see their fortune increase without working for it.
Over the years, I've seen many documentaries about this, and they all conclude the same thing: it's a bad thing for the country as a whole if a few people own almost everything, and that's exactly what's happening.

That's how our economic system is intended to work. It's the end result of capitalism: concentration of capital.

We have two general groups in society: those who collect rent/profit/interest, and those who pay rent/interest and work for wages. One side constantly accumulates more capital without working. The other side constantly has their capital extracted from them.

What would you expect to happen? Wink

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December 18, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
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What would you expect to happen? Wink
I'm not sure. It would be nice if the system would reach a certain equilibrium at some point, instead of needing a war or a plague to reset and start over.

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December 18, 2018, 09:20:43 PM
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We don't know what will happen in the future. What if we are not around anymore by that year. Always expect the unexpected. 2030 is far beyond. So lets do all the things we can do to earn good profit before the crisis comes.

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Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.

You are right about this.I refuse to have kids,because of the high prices and low wages.Getting a job is harder than before and the cost of living always goes up.However,I'm glad I paid off my student debt and I don't have any mortgage or debt.I will hope that bitcoin will hit 50-90K USD around 2030 and I will keep my bitcoins untill then.

I would like to have kids myself, but im also forced to not take that life changing decision because it's simply impossible to do it. The costs of living would go through the roof. It's difficult sustaining myself, imagine I also had to take care of a family. If I was reckless I would do it, but if you want to be able to save money and form a capital it's just not feasible.

And what's even more infuriating is that since we aren't having kids, the government blames us for not having kids and screwing up the demographic pyramid, and their proposed solution is to bring immigrants. We are basically being replaced by cheap hand labour.
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December 19, 2018, 02:31:37 AM
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IF i say now then it will be unrealistic and in 2030 i have so many plans to do at that time and for now i want to make money because in future for businesses i will need more money for establishing of new businesses and i can buy an established businesses as well.
of course I will do it too, build a business, where maybe 2030 I have run a business as a result of diversifying cryptocurrency, and of course I still hold bitcoin as an investment


 WOW.. What a speculation toward the future...2030?  Yes, i would agree with to have a second source of income for our future. yes we are on our own by ourself. But, one thing should we have to take into consideration.. Our Health... Can we be sure that our investment for our future would be for for us??? A long term investment should be taken more seriously. Nobody knows about our life if we did not take care of it. some people only take on day to today bases... thats a good plan though.good luck guys.

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December 19, 2018, 02:37:45 AM
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We don't know what will happen in the future. What if we are not around anymore by that year. Always expect the unexpected. 2030 is far beyond. So lets do all the things we can do to earn good profit before the crisis comes.
Yes, it's true, we don't know whether our age will arrive or not in 2030, because 2030 will still be around 12 years left. So I can't speculate for the future, let everything flow naturally. Because the future is a very big mystery.
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December 19, 2018, 02:52:18 AM
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Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.
what we can do is welcome digitizing by preparing ourselves, because the future of 2030 is very diverse, each country has a different fate, for countries in Asia the economy may be very good, seeing abundant natural resources and human resources are also very a lot, maybe the future of the world economy will move to Asia, and the bitcoin currency is also developing very well in Asia, so the future can be very good.
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December 19, 2018, 04:17:09 AM
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We don't know what will happen in the future. What if we are not around anymore by that year. Always expect the unexpected. 2030 is far beyond. So lets do all the things we can do to earn good profit before the crisis comes.

2030 is very far way and those who are at mid 30's or 40's  today may not be alive by that time or too old to care about the financial changes in the world. There may be no bitcoin by that time and we may have some new medium of currency which we may not imagine at this moment.

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December 19, 2018, 04:23:51 AM
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We still do not know what will going to happen in the near future though your claims can be feel as one of the individual that are currently in having a difficulties providing the needs for the family due to the high cost of living. It is already feel for the poor families but for the few that who are rich they feel more richer because of the poor working so hard for them.

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December 19, 2018, 05:27:16 AM
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in the year 2030. I hope to enjoy the old age calmly and guaranteed, therefore at this time I work to squeeze my brain and energy, working as a private employee with little money sometimes makes me pessimistic, can I have an adequate pension fund? , but I always consistently set aside 5% of my income in the tube and 5% for investment every month, though it's difficult but I have to do it because there is no guarantee of old age from my company, like you I hope to rely on bitcoin investment for my old age guarantee
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December 19, 2018, 07:00:48 AM
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For 2030 there are many things that can be done about cryptocurrency, with another 12 years traveling from now on, I think many newcomers will emerge in 2030, for me from now on I have to be mature in investing if I enter the year 2030 just enjoy itthe results and search for an island in parts of Africa and teach the public about Cryptocurrency and Bitcoin.
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December 19, 2018, 09:49:48 AM
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Yes, my portfolio is suits me. And I hope that it will provide me with a decent retirement. Although in 2030 I will not be a pensioner yet but I dream and plan to live in a house by the sea or ocean with my family.
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December 19, 2018, 10:00:38 AM
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I would like for all these years until 2030, we lived without a war, which many now talk about. Most likely, we will not avoid a global crisis but no war, please. After the crisis, will be easier to recover, including cryptocurrency.
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December 19, 2018, 10:22:17 AM
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Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.

Hopefully Bitcoin will save us from the coming crisis. On 2030, maybe there are unpleasant happenings in the economy but let's not forget that we make our own future. Whether we build our own strong economy or he passive and just go with the flow.

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December 19, 2018, 10:29:25 AM
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Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.

You are right about this.I refuse to have kids,because of the high prices and low wages.Getting a job is harder than before and the cost of living always goes up.However,I'm glad I paid off my student debt and I don't have any mortgage or debt.I will hope that bitcoin will hit 50-90K USD around 2030 and I will keep my bitcoins untill then.

I would like to have kids myself, but im also forced to not take that life changing decision because it's simply impossible to do it. The costs of living would go through the roof. It's difficult sustaining myself, imagine I also had to take care of a family. If I was reckless I would do it, but if you want to be able to save money and form a capital it's just not feasible.

And what's even more infuriating is that since we aren't having kids, the government blames us for not having kids and screwing up the demographic pyramid, and their proposed solution is to bring immigrants. We are basically being replaced by cheap hand labour.

Are there any forms of tax breaks in the US (assuming that's where you're from), or any other sort of incentive for having children? I know that in my country there are numerous possible savings that can be made if having children, it doesn't nearly off-set the cost of having children but it's a start.

Isn't it awful to even use words like cost associated with children? Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could be in a situation to think of new life as a blessing instead of having to threat over the financial burden that it would bring.

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December 19, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
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Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.

we can't really be that worrying about money anymore. Its value is dictated solely for its purpose of making the economy of each country rotate. The thing is how crypto will emerge during the 11 years in between. Will it come to end ? or will it start another war? We will never know.
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December 19, 2018, 01:28:52 PM
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Even today, the situation is pretty bad in terms of demography for most Western countries, and by 2030 it will probably be worse. Some big EU countries like Germany or France are trying to fix their demographics by immigration policy (especially Germany). Hundreds of thousands of people from east Europe moved to the west (Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Croatia...) + some extra 1+ million people from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan...

Also EU is try to save the pension system by raising the limit of retirement to 67 years of life - what causes protests across EU. On the other hand, we have demographic explosions in some other countries, China and India make almost 40% of total world population ( 2.77 billion people). People from these and some other countries will simply fill in the demographic gaps of Western countries.

In year 2030 assuming I'm alive by then, I will spend my BTC on some nice things because price will be so high by then, and we all be millionaires Cheesy

Since this year is so close to 2032 it will be the time when most BTC will be mined - by 2028 (98,43%) and 2032 (99,21%).

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Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.


Actually for that longer of time I don't even think for my future at 2030 I enjoy the time that i have now because we don't know how long would we stay here in our mother earth. but in terms of savings for the better future I suggest to hold bitcoin until 2030 because every after 10 years there is a good results like what happen since 2011 to 2017 all people are happy to a huge income.
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December 19, 2018, 03:37:24 PM
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We don't know what will happen in the future. What if we are not around anymore by that year. Always expect the unexpected. 2030 is far beyond. So lets do all the things we can do to earn good profit before the crisis comes.
I do not know and can not imagine in 2030 I also do not know the thought of my life and my ideals are not only dibitcoin but in the real world too but I think if bitcoin in 2030 will get more appreciation throughout the world
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December 19, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
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I will definitely be rich and continue to invest in Crypto. I am investing in the growing altcoins like Banana, Bitnautic. After five years, our market will grow sharply and we will have a lot of money from it. I like the investment in crypto, it is interesting.

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