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March 19, 2023, 04:40:39 PM
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It's the first edition of WPL and the learning curve for the officials and franchises, now they have tested the water and from now on all focus would be on skill development. All franchises will also do BCCI's bidding for obvious reasons, similar to Men's IPL scouting, camp etc so give it a couple of more years. These things take time for sure but it'll happen eventually.

Personally, I do not think women's IPL is going to do as well as men's IPL. Doesn't matter how hard or for how long they try. I am saying that because we can easily take the example of women's NBA.

A country where the feminist revolution is at its peak and women can get a lot of rights that even men don't have. For a long period of time, women's NBA is not generating money. They have to take money from men's NBA and health women's NBA continue. I am not saying that women's IPL is impossible to generate profit. I am saying it is going to be a thousand times harder compared to men's IPL.
I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.

The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself

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March 19, 2023, 05:13:00 PM
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I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.

The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself

My argument is that even if women's IPL is somewhat popular, it is never going to be as popular as men's IPL. It is never even going to be a very good business, to be honest. The best thing that might come out of this is the players that will represent Indian women's cricket. The profit is never going to be enough for most of the big businessmen. Of course, it is going to be enough for the broke people who always try to play it safe. But I think it is too early to say. Probably they will make enough profit eventually.


It is base less to compare women cricket with men. At the moment Indian women cricketer are not even close to Australian or English cricketers. First BCCI & the franchise needs to work on those grounds then we can compare them with Men cricket. I also agree WPL won't be generating as much revenue and craze like men's cricket. But both these franchise league will help BCCI generate more revenue and improve cricket infrastructure. That will give more opportunities to the cricket playing youth for both genders and overall help the Indian economy.
Both Indian IPL and Womens Premier League will increase the revenue of the Indian Cricket Board but it is common thing that IPL is the number one T20 cricket league in the world with the highest investment. No other cricket league can compare with this. On the other hand the Womens Premier League has just started. As the first season, it has gained a lot of popularity. In the next session better cricketers will be available and this event will gain more popularity. But it is certain that both the Indian women's and men's T20 cricket leagues will be the top cricket league in the world cricket.

What I am a little fearful of is that probably the women's IPL will also have to be funded even though it is not going to generate some actual profit. But one thing that is good in India is if they do not see a profit, they are not going to probably continue. Unlike in the west where some feminists shout for equal pay when they are actually playing in a loss project(WNBA)

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March 19, 2023, 05:33:42 PM
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I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.

The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself

My argument is that even if women's IPL is somewhat popular, it is never going to be as popular as men's IPL. It is never even going to be a very good business, to be honest. The best thing that might come out of this is the players that will represent Indian women's cricket. The profit is never going to be enough for most of the big businessmen. Of course, it is going to be enough for the broke people who always try to play it safe. But I think it is too early to say. Probably they will make enough profit eventually.
Just think of IPL, at the first season. It takes time and it is a wrong calculation to compare men's IPL with WPL in terms of revenue. Even before the start of WPL there is not much interested on it. Now the audience and viewership have increased than calculated. When the franchise number increases automatically it'll gain even more popularity. Maybe WPL isn't that profitable as IPL, but it is sure to generate profit, no doubt in it.

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March 20, 2023, 12:11:52 AM
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I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.
The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself
My argument is that even if women's IPL is somewhat popular, it is never going to be as popular as men's IPL. It is never even going to be a very good business, to be honest. The best thing that might come out of this is the players that will represent Indian women's cricket. The profit is never going to be enough for most of the big businessmen. Of course, it is going to be enough for the broke people who always try to play it safe. But I think it is too early to say. Probably they will make enough profit eventually.
Just think of IPL, at the first season. It takes time and it is a wrong calculation to compare men's IPL with WPL in terms of revenue. Even before the start of WPL there is not much interested on it. Now the audience and viewership have increased than calculated. When the franchise number increases automatically it'll gain even more popularity. Maybe WPL isn't that profitable as IPL, but it is sure to generate profit, no doubt in it.

WPL should not be compared with male IPL. Men's cricket has a huge following. And so IPL became popular worldwide. And a lot of money can be earned through it. But women's cricket is still relatively less popular. There are very few people who are interested in watching women's cricket live. One of the reasons for organizing the WPL is to popularize women's cricket. Women's cricket has gained a lot of new viewers as a result of the WPL. If the audience increases, they will be able to earn a lot of money in the future.
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March 20, 2023, 03:39:48 AM
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Personally, I do not think women's IPL is going to do as well as men's IPL. Doesn't matter how hard or for how long they try. I am saying that because we can easily take the example of women's NBA.

A country where the feminist revolution is at its peak and women can get a lot of rights that even men don't have. For a long period of time, women's NBA is not generating money. They have to take money from men's NBA and health women's NBA continue. I am not saying that women's IPL is impossible to generate profit. I am saying it is going to be a thousand times harder compared to men's IPL.
I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.

The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself

It is too early to decide the fate of WPL. The first season is still going on and after its conclusion, we will come to know how well did it perform. I doubt that WPL won't be generating any revenue for BCCI as it has already done that when the media rights were sold. Now the main question lies in the revenue of the franchise. Most of them are in this business for quite some time now and they know how to make it a profitable venture. We need to wait for the viewership data that will be released after the conclusion of this season. That will give us an insight on the success of WPL. 

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March 20, 2023, 11:32:24 AM
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I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.

The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself

My argument is that even if women's IPL is somewhat popular, it is never going to be as popular as men's IPL. It is never even going to be a very good business, to be honest. The best thing that might come out of this is the players that will represent Indian women's cricket. The profit is never going to be enough for most of the big businessmen. Of course, it is going to be enough for the broke people who always try to play it safe. But I think it is too early to say. Probably they will make enough profit eventually.
Just think of IPL, at the first season. It takes time and it is a wrong calculation to compare men's IPL with WPL in terms of revenue. Even before the start of WPL there is not much interested on it. Now the audience and viewership have increased than calculated. When the franchise number increases automatically it'll gain even more popularity. Maybe WPL isn't that profitable as IPL, but it is sure to generate profit, no doubt in it.
Men's and women's league will never be equal. It doesn't matter how big an investment or promotion, it will never get the equal position. But its good and bad things can be judged comparatively. The Womens Premier League has just started. If it will not be 100% successful this year but there will be more improvement in the next seasons. If a few sessions can be completed regularly then a big revenue can be earned from this tournament. At that point we can make a comparison of the women's league with the men's.

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March 20, 2023, 03:59:18 PM
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Who is watching the Legends league final today between World Giants and Asia Lions ? Giants did not start the innings well and they are now struggling at 114 runs in the 17th over. The top oder batsmen failed today but Jacques Kallis scored 50 runs and is still at the wicket giving some sort of reasonable target. He was helped by Ross Taylor who scored 32 runs before he was bowled by Perera.

The good thing about the match is that you can watch it live on youtube. It's rare that you see a match being broadcast live on youtube.

Live broadcast link:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KQqAmBpLE


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I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.
The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself
It is too early to decide the fate of WPL. The first season is still going on and after its conclusion, we will come to know how well did it perform. I doubt that WPL won't be generating any revenue for BCCI as it has already done that when the media rights were sold. Now the main question lies in the revenue of the franchise. Most of them are in this business for quite some time now and they know how to make it a profitable venture. We need to wait for the viewership data that will be released after the conclusion of this season. That will give us an insight on the success of WPL. 

Every new thing is going to be interesting for people. We all know about a lot of controversies that happened in the men's IPL. That was a big reason for the men's IPL to become popular. I am not saying every club should look for controversy in trying to make the women's IPL interesting. But I simply think that the fact that there is no controversy is an indication that a lot of people are not interested in women's sports. But if any league, the women's T20 league in cricket does have the potential to get popular, I think it is the women's IPL.

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Who is watching the Legends league final today between World Giants and Asia Lions ? Giants did not start the innings well and they are now struggling at 114 runs in the 17th over. The top oder batsmen failed today but Jacques Kallis scored 50 runs and is still at the wicket giving some sort of reasonable target. He was helped by Ross Taylor who scored 32 runs before he was bowled by Perera.

The good thing about the match is that you can watch it live on youtube. It's rare that you see a match being broadcast live on youtube.

Live broadcast link:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KQqAmBpLE



I feel the legends should rest rather play again  Cheesy. I have been seeing a lot of social media promotion going around this tournament. Let me tell you there are too many good cricket matches happening around the world that are being played by the current generation. It is far better to watch those games than watch the veterans. Some of us might like to watch them play again but I am least interested otherwise those games would have been discussed here.
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I believe no one in the BCCI setup or franchises for that matter expects the same success as Men's IPL.

The poor state of the Women's NBA is a fair argument but I'd say WPL won't follow WNBA's route. Only because the recent media rights deal of WPL suggests that it won't become a subsidiary of Men's IPL and can sustain itself

My argument is that even if women's IPL is somewhat popular, it is never going to be as popular as men's IPL. It is never even going to be a very good business, to be honest. The best thing that might come out of this is the players that will represent Indian women's cricket. The profit is never going to be enough for most of the big businessmen. Of course, it is going to be enough for the broke people who always try to play it safe. But I think it is too early to say. Probably they will make enough profit eventually.
I got that and already answered and it wasn't out of thin air. BCCI on record mentioned this, they are not delusional and not chasing Men's IPL success with the WPL, they only want self sustainable model for WPL. Also all parties BCCI and franchises are willing to take even some hit for a couple of years, which is normal in any new business setup.

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March 20, 2023, 05:04:07 PM
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Who is watching the Legends league final today between World Giants and Asia Lions ? Giants did not start the innings well and they are now struggling at 114 runs in the 17th over. The top oder batsmen failed today but Jacques Kallis scored 50 runs and is still at the wicket giving some sort of reasonable target. He was helped by Ross Taylor who scored 32 runs before he was bowled by Perera.

The good thing about the match is that you can watch it live on youtube. It's rare that you see a match being broadcast live on youtube.

Live broadcast link:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KQqAmBpLE

Look like Dilshan and Tharanga are too good for the World Giants and they single handly will take them home. The Asian team seems far better in this match. However, I haven't seen any of the previous performances so can't comment much.
I could not watch this match because no channel in my country was broadcasting it live but thanks to you for sharing this live broadcast link.
Do you or anyone else know if there is any cricket channel that shows all the live matches on youtube? It will really help. Smiley

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Who is watching the Legends league final today between World Giants and Asia Lions ? Giants did not start the innings well and they are now struggling at 114 runs in the 17th over. The top oder batsmen failed today but Jacques Kallis scored 50 runs and is still at the wicket giving some sort of reasonable target. He was helped by Ross Taylor who scored 32 runs before he was bowled by Perera.
The good thing about the match is that you can watch it live on youtube. It's rare that you see a match being broadcast live on youtube.
Live broadcast link:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KQqAmBpLE
Look like Dilshan and Tharanga are too good for the World Giants and they single handly will take them home. The Asian team seems far better in this match. However, I haven't seen any of the previous performances so can't comment much.
I could not watch this match because no channel in my country was broadcasting it live but thanks to you for sharing this live broadcast link.
Do you or anyone else know if there is any cricket channel that shows all the live matches on youtube? It will really help. Smiley

World giants did not post a good enough total in my opinion. They gave a target of 148. First of all, they had a lot of wickets in hand. So they are a little short of where they should have finished. At least 160 were needed.

Now they are not being able to defend this properly. The Asia Lions are not waiting around to get to the total. They are really in a hurry. They have already scored 115 in 9 overs. They are scoring at a rate of almost 12 runs per over. They now need only 4.58 runs per over. With 9 wickets in hand, it is going to be really easy to achieve.

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DC, MI and UPW have qualified for the playoffs stage while RCB and GG got knocked out. MI and DC have pretty much dominated the first season of the WPL which is why I am expecting a tense final between them.

Am not expecting any surprises from UPW and I still think that DC will win the first season primarily thanks to Lanning.

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Just think of IPL, at the first season. It takes time and it is a wrong calculation to compare men's IPL with WPL in terms of revenue. Even before the start of WPL there is not much interested on it. Now the audience and viewership have increased than calculated. When the franchise number increases automatically it'll gain even more popularity. Maybe WPL isn't that profitable as IPL, but it is sure to generate profit, no doubt in it.
Men's and women's league will never be equal. It doesn't matter how big an investment or promotion, it will never get the equal position. But its good and bad things can be judged comparatively. The Womens Premier League has just started. If it will not be 100% successful this year but there will be more improvement in the next seasons. If a few sessions can be completed regularly then a big revenue can be earned from this tournament. At that point we can make a comparison of the women's league with the men's.

I agree with @Vaskiy that comparing women's sports with men's sports is not fair. But at the same time, we all have to remember that this is not a charity. Unless they bring in good revenue for the investors and sponsors, they are not going to be interested in investing. Of course, it is going to need time. But is the BCCI going to give women IPL the time it needs? Considering the fact that they did not want the women's IPL in the first place. I don't know their situation now but that was the case for a long time.

It was truly said by @BobK71. Comparing men's sports with women's sports is like comparing world-class cars with Nissan. You are going to get your money's worth with a Lamborghini. People will also show a lot of interest in a Lamborghini. With a Nissan, you might get reliability, but you will certainly not get the popularity.

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March 20, 2023, 06:25:15 PM
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Who is watching the Legends league final today between World Giants and Asia Lions ? Giants did not start the innings well and they are now struggling at 114 runs in the 17th over. The top oder batsmen failed today but Jacques Kallis scored 50 runs and is still at the wicket giving some sort of reasonable target. He was helped by Ross Taylor who scored 32 runs before he was bowled by Perera.

The good thing about the match is that you can watch it live on youtube. It's rare that you see a match being broadcast live on youtube.

Live broadcast link:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KQqAmBpLE


This game was interesting one in the list now.The target of 160 runs will be the reasonable one,but they play like wicket is important one then a runs.But their run at 17th over is not the acceptable one.Kallis made his enough batting with the score of 50 runs is good game from the experienced player as compared to the younger players in their team.Taylor had made his enough game by his 32 runs was welcome run to the team and they should target of 170 runs.
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DC, MI and UPW have qualified for the playoffs stage while RCB and GG got knocked out. MI and DC have pretty much dominated the first season of the WPL which is why I am expecting a tense final between them.

Am not expecting any surprises from UPW and I still think that DC will win the first season primarily thanks to Lanning.

The decision between MI and DC is a bit of a toss up for me personally. Honestly, I think they are both really good performers. Both of them also have the potential to win. However, when it comes to raw performance, my opinion is that DC is the better team in my opinion. My expectation for the final of the women's IPL is not actually that there will be a little bit of drama in it. Ultimately, it's all about TRP, the number of viewers and the popularity of the show. No, I am not saying that it is going to be fixed in the near future. However, we can expect some drama in a final as well.

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March 20, 2023, 09:04:41 PM
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This game was interesting one in the list now.The target of 160 runs will be the reasonable one,but they play like wicket is important one then a runs.But their run at 17th over is not the acceptable one.Kallis made his enough batting with the score of 50 runs is good game from the experienced player as compared to the younger players in their team.Taylor had made his enough game by his 32 runs was welcome run to the team and they should target of 170 runs.
After having very good performance in league matches WG lost the final against AL as they fail to perform as expectations in this final game Abdur Razzak was the hero for the AL as he bowls amazing spell 2 for 14 in 4 overs was surely deserving MOM award and just because of this WG no batsman were able to score any good runs just legendary Kallis was on crease with his mark of 78 of 54 balls which is amazing stuff but at the end WG have only 147 which was not good and opening pair from AL score more than 100 runs which helps them for having big win in this final match of this series but at the end good entertainment for the cricket lovers in Qatar which is also now going to be good hub of sports after having best organized soccer world cup few months back.

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One loss have made Mumbai Indians to loss the second match. As the league is getting close to the final days Mumbai Indians looks like losing its form. If this continues scenario could change as Delhi Capitals and UP Warriorz would play the finals. In T20 format cricket anything could happen, even the last player could stand and win a match scoring big runs.

Today's performance is completely worse from Mumbai Indians and it looks like Delhi Capitals is having better stability in performance. Team that scored above 150+ runs easily losing with the score of just 109 runs is really bad performance and lost consistency.

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DC, MI and UPW have qualified for the playoffs stage while RCB and GG got knocked out. MI and DC have pretty much dominated the first season of the WPL which is why I am expecting a tense final between them.

Am not expecting any surprises from UPW and I still think that DC will win the first season primarily thanks to Lanning.

Gujarat Giants are knocked out of the tournament, and because of the tournament format this time Royal Challengers Bangalore women are also not in the contention anymore. The match between Mumbai Indians and Delhi Capitals will decide who will play in the eliminator and who will directly qualify for the final. I would prefer Delhi Capitals winning the trophy this time, because they did their homework without much showoff. They have the momentum with them, and Mumbai has lost two of their last three matches.

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DC, MI and UPW have qualified for the playoffs stage while RCB and GG got knocked out. MI and DC have pretty much dominated the first season of the WPL which is why I am expecting a tense final between them.
Am not expecting any surprises from UPW and I still think that DC will win the first season primarily thanks to Lanning.
Gujarat Giants are knocked out of the tournament, and because of the tournament format this time Royal Challengers Bangalore women are also not in the contention anymore. The match between Mumbai Indians and Delhi Capitals will decide who will play in the eliminator and who will directly qualify for the final. I would prefer Delhi Capitals winning the trophy this time, because they did their homework without much showoff. They have the momentum with them, and Mumbai has lost two of their last three matches.

I have seen several matches of Delhi Capitals. This team is very good. I did not find any weakness in the batting and bowling line-up. In the last match against Mumbai, I saw Delhi players batting well. Mumbai was given a target of just 110 runs. Delhi reached the target of victory in just 9 overs. All three batsmen in the top order scored more than 30 runs each. Delhi is the most likely to be champions. Unless an accident occurs.

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