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March 28, 2019, 07:05:03 PM
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Merited by suchmoon (9), Foxpup (5), philipma1957 (3), LoyceV (3), The Pharmacist (2), electronicash (2), DdmrDdmr (2), Quickseller (1), bones261 (1), CjMapope (1), Lafu (1), iasenko (1), hacker1001101001 (1)
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I've witnessed, devoted, created, lead, innovated and shared, I've virtually done everything in a righteous manner, all specific to alt-coins. I've been on these forums for over 5 years, with brief hiatus periods in-between. In total, I've invested 94days in total logged in specifically for altcoins only (some afk ofc), but that should give some indication on my enthusiasm and dedication towards altcoins.

This all begun back in 2013, during the silk-road incident and first Bitcoin climb to 1100-1200 usd, i was amazed. My memory has slipped on how i was introduced to Bitcointalk, but i believe it was through an exterior money-making forum, where Goldcoin was being promoted. Through my time on these forums, I've never strayed away from one core concept, community. Community is everything central to these forums and often I've gone to great lengths to support that community: calling out scams, sharing my wisdom (more recently), and analyzing coins to a greater extent. My intent has always been simple, to help new members gain the insight and wisdom on what crypto-currency truly is, where it's been and where it's potentially going.

The reason for alt-coins is simple, it's dynamic and much more in-depth than Bitcoin. Not only are you exposed to one particular blockchain, but you're proactively analyzing the progress of Bitcoin through the lens of broader audiences. Watching the evolution of crypto-currency and being apart of that evolution was the greatest gift that has not stopped giving.

I consider myself a very-well versed, an expert on altcoins. Not necessarily with technical, but with virtually all other aspects that incorporates them. I consistently learn, educate myself and share that knowledge with others. Due to my extensive insight (one good record is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4930584.0), i feel I'm suitable to help drive discussions and reward unique individuals who display inherent good-intent and understanding about altcoins as a whole.

Many of you reading this will understand, fewer of you are set-in-stone about your mindset of how Bitcoin is the be-all-end-all, the biggest, the most secured and the first. I understand your perspective, i agree with some of it, but i will argue against most of it; because it's fundamentally incorrect. Bitcoin is inherently linked with the fate of altcoins, because without the evolution of altcoins, Bitcoin's valuation and infrastructure would not be what it is today. Why? The reason is simple, exposure to audiences, investors and everything else imaginable.

Why I'm here is simple, i want to help grow the altcoin discussions and help them mature more. I was motivated by my desire to finally become a lengendary member, where i was convinced and influenced that i could potentially be doing more.

Merit for all intensive purposes is fatally flawed and skewed, especially in the altcoins section, i don't agree with the system, but my vision is not short-sided to understand the overall impact (good and bad) for ANNs/Bounties specifically. If i can help change that in altcoins, then i will take that opprtunity to help. There are two reasons I still use Bitcointalk 1) to help provide insight, 2) to learn about new coins.

I encourage you to carefully consider this application and who i'm and what i represent/have represented.


Note: I do not necessarily agree with all the topics/posts or the quality of them, but i respect their critical thought, analysis and problems they are trying to address. All the while, trying to understand and engage the larger communities perspectives. Some of these threads have over 10k views, 10,000 people have potentially been helped by an input from 1 member who struck up a conversation or asked a question. This is fundamental to how i believe cryptocurrency should behave, learning and respecting eachother.


We all know a lot of altcoin discussions are driven by bounty signatures, but setting that aside from a moment, there is real value from the threads below. I received 50 smerit today, and since you guys were so generous to me today, i was generous with the threads below.

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Source:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104899.0




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Source:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3035694.0




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There's so much more, this was taken from the first 15 pages in Discussions only. ANN's are much more difficult to merit, because people are so polarized when viewing them. Giving merit from this perspective will virtually be never done, only if a coin has exceeded various of milestones and proven somewhat when trading and through the community. Grin is an excellent recent example, but has had a flood of merit already. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090427.0



I'll leave it open for you the community to decide. Thanks for all your support here, and the other thread i made today. You guys drove me to doing this app.

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March 28, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
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That was fast. Well done.

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March 28, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
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"Why I'm here is simple, i want to help grow the altcoin discussions and help them mature more. Merit for all intensive purposes is fatally flawed and skewed, i don't agree with the system, but my vision is not short-sided to understand the overall impact (good and bad) for ANNs/Bounties specifically. If i can help change that in altcoins, then i will take that opprtunity to help. There are two reasons I still use Bitcointalk 1) to help provide insight, 2) to learn about new coins. "

That's the best part of your application. Demonstrates some capacity to make an objective critical evaluation but still strive to make the best of a terrible situation.




I would support someone who is semi realistic about the merit system to become a merit source. Of course it is the worst thing ever implemented on this board, but with a few tweaks it could remain useful without all of the dangers it brings.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0









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March 28, 2019, 07:27:22 PM
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Wow that was fast, maybe with you application and mine the alternative section will receive some attention from meriters. I'll suggest though you should follow the rules and qoute the original post to make it look more official.

Irrespective of we are both applying for the same course, I support you application as a win for one is win for all.  You have a solid background on the altcoin board and I believe you'll do a perfect job even better than me Wink

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March 28, 2019, 07:44:58 PM
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I gave 3 merits to you I will look for your posts more often.

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March 28, 2019, 08:00:22 PM
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I can only encourage this: someone from the deep corners of the altcoin boards who speaks out, turns out to make decent posts, and wants to improve this forum. Well done!
It's the spammers we don't like, and I'd be very happy if Merit can be used to highlight good posts on the altcoin boards too.

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March 28, 2019, 08:06:44 PM
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I think this is a jolly good idea. Someone has to do it. Most merit heavy, or vaguely normal, people won't want to go anywhere near that section. It's basically incomprehensible these days. I'm sure there's some quality posting that never gets the credit it deserves somewhere in amongst all that racket.

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March 28, 2019, 08:20:49 PM
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Sorry to interrupt your merit spree, tk808. Please be careful on sending merits, especially those who are a plagiarist.
A sample is user Favouredhart, the profile has been autobanned, the most likely reason for autobanned is plagiarism case. Make sure that you have given your smerit to non-alt of spammers or any plagiarist.

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Sorry to interrupt your merit spree, tk808. Please be careful on sending merits, especially those who are a plagiarist.
A sample is user Favouredhart, the profile has been autobanned, the most likely reason for autobanned is plagiarism case. Make sure that you have given your smerit to non-alt of spammers or any plagiarist.

I'll run the profiles through the checker, if msource is something i do get awarded with. Aside from that, useful tool to aid me when checking for puppets.

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March 28, 2019, 10:32:38 PM
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Great selection of posts and all-round application. You thoroughly deserve to be a merit source. And to be given a medal. Thank you for your service.
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March 29, 2019, 03:31:28 AM
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Altcoin section is just fucked up with lots of shit happing there daily with no human interest most probably bots and accounts farming. From all this shit it's pretty hard to find the posts which are worthy of merits but TK808 has done a great job in maintaining his interest in the altcoin section even after such bad criticisms of that boards by some of the members here.

As seen, TK808 is personally an victim of getting unnoticed even after making quality posts in altcoin section, he could understand the situation more clearly and would also be able to award merits in a effective manner as per I think. Also we need more merit sources in those sections for sure.

I would support this application from bottom of my altcoin heart! Roll Eyes
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March 29, 2019, 03:37:45 AM
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Yeah, I support this application as well.

Altcoin Discussion and the rest of the alt sections where actual discussion takes place need more merit sources, and I'm sure OP is well aware of this himself after finding out that it's near impossible to earn enough merits to rank up if you post primarily in those sections.  And he's a decent poster himself, so I'm confident he knows what good posts are vs. shitposts.  Hopefully if Theymos brings him on board as a merit source, OP won't waste his sMerits on garbage posts--my guess is that if the altcoin sections are all he reads, 99% of it is going to be crap.

Good luck, bro.

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March 29, 2019, 04:00:55 AM
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You have good knowledge about altcoin and willing find good posts on mountain of spam. I support your application as well.

Just beware with plagiarism, some member even going as far using text spinner, steal from multiple sources and translate from different language.

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March 29, 2019, 05:35:07 AM
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If this helps the altcoin boards bear less of a resemblance to a restaurant grease trap, I support it.

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March 29, 2019, 08:27:09 AM
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Historically speaking, the main sections you aim to target (I haven’t got specific information on the chilboards such as Services) were not shy of awarded sMerits, although there has always been much speculation as to what went on behind the scenes there.

Nevertheless, it is irrefutable that those sections have lost weight in terms of share of received sMerits:

-   Altcoin Discussion Total: 11.886 (3,45% of all sMerits) -> since, 2019 up until the 22/03/2019 :   727 (1,33% of all sMerits)
-   Ann Altcoins Total:         34.127 (9,89% of all sMerits) -> since 2019, up until the 22/03/2019: 2.360 (4,31% of all sMerits)
 
Both boards have dropped their share my more than half in relation to the total awarded merits. Having forum members in the role of Merit Sources, with a good fair criteria, looking out for those boards is certainly welcome.

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March 29, 2019, 07:59:23 PM
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how can you say your not technical but an "expert" on altcoins? Tongue

i would say ive seen alot of pussy, does that qualify me to be a gynecologist? Cheesy 
or do i maybe need to know the TECHNICALS in an area to be an "expert" ?

(apparently i have 200 days login time fyi, and i dont consider myself an self proclaimed "expert" on altcoins, even tho they are the main thing i engage with as well here, have some humility man haha)

im just razzing you tho haha, good luck on your merit app, i think your a valuable member here from what ive seen Smiley

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March 29, 2019, 11:09:06 PM
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It takes balls of steal to try and find good quality posts in ALT section, I trade ,miner , hold a lot of ALTs but i am rarely active there.
 
even the mining board which is "supposed" to be less spamy looks scary to me, i proposed to have more child boards there > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096481.msg49198652#msg49198652 to organize the mess a bit , only then i will be able to chill around alts more often.

but as far as having to dig into all that spam and scam b.s, , it's easier to find a needle in a haystack, so i wish you luck ( you need it) and i support your application.

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Hello tk808,

I like most of the post you selected but I am wondering about these 2:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123354.msg50262195#msg50262195
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Be selective when picking coins and token ,like know different between total supplies, for example I've noticed that low max supply coins appreciate in price better than large supply ones and that doesn't mean that there are no large supply coins that surpass low supply ones but mostly I prefer lower max supply ones

If you are a upcoming newbie that has no cash and struggling to survive ,join airdrops and bounties ,they will help and if you select a coin of let's say 100million max supply ,its not a must to get 10,000 pieces of that coin because a friend of your got it ,3000 pieces is a better way to start , same goes to billion coins if its 100billion ,even with 10$ you would get more than 3000 pieces of the 100million coin e.g pundix

Always remember that a little drop of water will surely makes a mighty ocean ,step by step bit by bit you will get there ,I started with 200pieces of electroneum as cheap as it was when released but now I have 5000pieces ,I got helped through airdrops mostly and some few faucets too ,no matter how broke or penniless you are ,you have HOPE ,the day you stop trying is the day you become hopeless .

I don't see how these are really adding value.
First one is just some nobody offering a service nobody has reviewed yet in a self moderated thread, and the other one, it yet another post about how to make money on airdrop and bounties, both causing the forum a lot of harm.




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Anybody who joins the site can complete either type of task. Co-creators complete more varied tasks which are quite different from ordinary bounties. They can include things like reviewing a website, app, graphics or video, completing a survey to share your thought about a company or its products, or being creative and coming up with idea about how a business can improve its product or operations. These are just some examples, as there are many more things which could be posted as a co-creator task.

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You do realize you merited an advertisment post?
All this user is doing is posting about this service. This is hardly doing the forum any good.

I can't in any way support you as a merit source considering your merit sent history.

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March 30, 2019, 03:20:56 PM
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I do not really know what was the hype at present but I am seeing a lot of post regarding on the sudden change on awarding merit in the altcoin section. I know that market is bad and we should embrace more crypto enthusiasts to join in the forum so that they will be encourage to invest in cryptocurrency after knowing a lot of things in the system. This is base on thr experience that not all who join in thr forum were investors. Some are just bounty hunter gradually becoming an investors after knowing how it can be used purposively.

Awarding merits is just a little way to welcome especially the new comers. Anyway, they can't steal your rewards that much because a jr. member level doing signature campaign is just receiving a minimal rewards.

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March 30, 2019, 04:20:14 PM
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Hey Asche, been a while man. I remember your involvement with Nevra, when your account was a month old or so, and received some of your first merits from that https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=asche. I'm pretty impressed overall by how active you've been. You were offering to translate the thread into French and were quite involved soon after. The entire point here is not to call you out for previous activities, but to show something a bit deeper, that just because someone is a noob promoting something or willing to gain something, doesn't necessarily mean they have bad intent. Some of these guys are genuinely interested in crypto and etc, and to recognize specific individuals for their contributions, even though they may be driven by monetary incentives, sometimes helps the forums move forward and broaden those noobs outlook. In an ironic sense, I've had a direct impact on your outlook with what was trying to be achieved with Nevra; either consciously or subconsciously.

I'm not perfect, nor will I be perfect. Granting merit on the basis of posts is completely subjective, even myself is not completely immune to certain things. I was granting a lot of merit recently because i know I'm kinda in the spotlight here and should be displaying my judgement and capabilities. Because of that, I was looking for posts the other day to merit, and will continue to do so as long as i have smerit available.


Disregarding all that,

1) The first post, he's a friend of mine. And with 1 smerit i had (btw this is the first smerit i had earned in like over 3-4 months and prior to all this attention i received), he was asking to merit his thread, so I did. He's a highly reputable guy and on a more fundamental level, translation services help strengthen the local community boards. I support all translators, because they directly impact the activity on those local boards. Even though they may be driven by monetary incentives (lets face it, most people are in crypto), doesn't necessarily discredit it. These things have direct or indirect impacts on the alts sections of Bitcointalk as a whole, in a mostly positive manner.

2) Altcoin stuff, he's sharing his wisdom. You don't have to agree with everything someone is saying to like it, or to understand underlining wisdom. He's not promoting a coin, but was trying to share his thoughts. I respect that, i agree with most of what was stated.

3) The last one, was a mistake. That post is actually a copy-cat of something similar i viewed (and was assisted by) 2 weeks earlier, which was also an advertisement (in a sense). This was the original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118082.0 i was essentially thinking that that was the same post, when in fact the user copy-pasted what that topic/user wrote, changed it up to crowdholding and published it on its own. I immediately recognized the mistake after i gave that person merit for previous efforts. Publish0x is an interesting site, and yes that post did help me discover that website, in which i will be using for information. Merit ofc, on the basis of helping me, the entire premise of meriting someone is if you actually gained something of it, because you won't be the only one.



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