Buy the DIP, and HODL!

[Miles2006]

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You are using the term lump summing differently from me.

From my point of view, saving extra money to buy the dip may or may not be a good strategy,  and from my point of view that is not lump summing... that is buying the dip. .there is no reason to call it lump summing merely because you are saving extra money for such buying the dip opportunities, which again may or may not be a good idea... especially for beginners who likely need to focus on stacking BTC without trying to guess about when dips might or might not come.. but sure you can do what you like in terms of holding back money to buy dips that may or may not pay off better than merely just ongoingly buying in a DCA kind of style.

There are already quite a few guys here who are coming around to understanding lump sum buying is different from buying the dip, and including that we either might come across extra money when we start to invest, or we might come accross extra money for a variety of reasons.. such as bonuses from work, inheritance, win the lottery, rearrange finances and realize that you hae more money than you thought that can be used for buying bitcoin. 

If you are combining the idea of lump summing and buying the dip, you may well not know what one or the other of those is since you are not able to distinguish them.

The same is true in terms of understanding the tradeoffs involved in regards to engaging in strict DCA versus holding some money aside for buying the dip.

I am not saying not to hold money aside, but likely there is hardly any need to hold extra money aside, especially in the first few years that you might be buying BTC, especially if you are ONLY buying through DCA and you might not be front loading your investment or lump summning from the start, so guys who might lump sum or front load from the start, may well find justification to also hold some cash aside for buying the dip and/or DCA'ing... I feel that I am repeating myself with these ideas so many times described why folks might supplement early lump summing and front loading with buying the dip and DCA but it may well might not be worth it to be saving money to buy the dip for those who are engaging in regular DCAing rather than those who front load their BTC investment.. need I give an example? of some one who might DCA $100 per week, but then if that person has $6k to invest right away, maybe that person invests $3k into bitcoin in a lump sum kind of way and then splits the other $3k into 50% buying the dip and 50% DCA..

I know that lump summing is when an investor chooses to just buy Bitcoin at once but it doesn't mean that after buying at once that someone cannot continue to DCA in other to acquire more at different prices if they have a steady cash flow since lump sum should not be that you will offload all the money you have at that material time, you can still have some reserves to take care of sudden needs pending your next income and you can also see reasons with me that lump summing is more better during a drastic DIP even though you don't continue the DCA for sometime again so you could regain the cash that you used in lump summing at a DIP from your conspicuous income that you would have used to DCA and it now stands as a reserved funds. However, a beginner may not comprehend these various strategies at the start of their investments as they will be more focused about the DCA because it is easier and doesn't allow regular monitoring of market prices. I am not trying to complicate between lump summing, buying at a dip price and the DCA but I am more concerned about lump summing only when a dip occurs and continue to DCA some other time that is for someone who have understood the activities of the market.

Just like you said, I don't want it to look like you are making repetition of yourself however it is also important for a beginner who have spent some years DCAing to know how to split their income between buying at Dip prices, lump summing and DCA. thanks for your concise explanation jayjuangee

Lump sum is a different strategy from dip buying, it’s more often to make some mistakes when accumulating but it’s best you never stop accumulating for any reason like your few examples stating after buying with huge amount during a price decline an investor can wait but, I don’t agree. An investor can use both strategy depending on their goal and financial ability because waiting is not an option mostly for newbies who have a long way to go should not see bitcoin price decline  as something they’ve been waiting for but rather an opportunity. From my perspective if an investor will stop accumulating because he/she accumulated much during the dip and they still want to wait for another decline in such case the investor is getting it wrong and why not continue with the dca but the difference is an investor can still decide to dca aggressively during the dip.

[Zackz5000]

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You are making sense, Dips are inevitable in the market and some investors are not ready to invest when the price of Bitcoin is stable, for example how we know the stability price of Bitcoin to range between $70k and above, so a few investors might actually want to see the price go below before they invest but from another view it is not always efficient most especially when the Dip the investor have in mind is far more below the stable price, he may keep on waiting for a longer time untill the price begin to surge further instead of declining to his expectations and will be left with no other option than to buy higher than expected.

We might be going through consolidation for nearly 4 months, but I doubt that "stable" is any kind of an accurate way of describing BTC prices or BTC price dynamics.

saying Bitcoin is stable could be kinda misleading and may not be the right choice of word to best describe Bitcoin prices or even a consolidation period because bitcoin is originally known for its volatility and its rapid price fluctuations.

When talk about Consolidation in the bitcoin market, it simply implies a period of time when the bitcoin price range are relatively narrow, but this is far from stability, it's more like a recuperation period or a pause in Bitcoin price to prepare the market for the next significant movement in bitcoin price.

The stability or instability of bitcoin are less concern to me as long as you are for the long-term. Investors like myself don't care about the bitcoin price stability,  rather what matters the most is believing in bitcoin potentials and growth. The main focus is on accumulating and holding for thelong-term rather than worrying about price stability. Due to its volatile in nature bitcoin can not be stable bitcoin price always fluctuate but it's long-term trends has been consistently upwards. Bitcoin's history of resilience and appreciation in value overtime provides confidence for investors, so keep your eyes on the value bitcoin provides in the long run and let the instability take care of themselves.  

You make sense mate Bitcoin is more profitable when held for long term purpose due to it unpredictability in price, but our main concern shouldn't be on the instability of Bitcoin because that is it's nature rather we should concentrate on how we can accumulate enough Bitcoin and hodl for a longer period of time, with the help of the DCA strategy one can accumulate more Bitcoin in different price level either weekly or monthly and hodl for long it can be from the range of 4-10 years and above with your discretionary income readily available so you won't sell out your Bitcoin hodling along the line or on a short period of time.

[JayJuanGee]

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The difference between lump summing and buying the dip is significant. Saving extra money to buy the dip is best described as buying the dip or timing the market, buying the dip involves seizing the opportunities when prices drop, lump summing is more about investing a larger sum of money at once.

Maybe that is the confusion in lump summing... it is not about buying a bunch at once, but instead having the ability to buy at once because of somehow receiving extra money or coming accross extra money..

so if extra money is (or becomes) available. .some or all of that extra money can be used to buy BTC right away, or it could be plugged into DCA and/or into buying on the dip systems.

How come I feel that I am repeating myself?

Maybe it is not a BIG deal?  but there still is a difference in the practices, and guys who understand the difference are going to be advantaged.. and maybe it does not matter so much what guys do or do not do, even though maybe part of the reason that we are participate in a forum like this or a thread like this is to be able to advantage ourselves from knowledge and being able to act upon such knowledge whether we are buying BTC right away or making various plans about future buying of BTC.

For beginners focusing on consistent DCA investing might be a safer and more straightforward approach without trying to time the market if someone is already investing through regular DCA,  holding extra money aside might not be necessary especially in their early years.

For sure this is correct.

However, having the freedom to take advantage of lump sum opportunities can be beneficial if extra funds become available, whether through bonuses, inheritance, or other sources.

Ok.  This makes sense too.

Maybe I was just quibbling about the way you were saying it earlier.. with the seeming convolution of ideas that sometimes happens when members describe the differing ways of accumulating bitcoin.

It's essential to understand the tradeoffs between sticking to a strict DCA strategy versus setting money aside for potential dip opportunities. While holding extra cash for buying the dip can be interesting, especially for those starting with lump sums or front loading, it might not be as necessary for those consistently DCAing.

This part seems to be described correctly too.. so maybe I just was quibbling with your opening sentence that came off as confusing and even seemingly misleading to me.

The difference between lump summing and buying the dip is significant. Saving extra money to buy the dip is best described as buying the dip or timing the market, buying the dip involves seizing the opportunities when prices drop, lump summing is more about investing a larger sum of money at once. For beginners focusing on consistent DCA investing might be a safer and more straightforward approach without trying to time the market if someone is already investing through regular DCA,  holding extra money aside might not be necessary especially in their early years. However, having the freedom to take advantage of lump sum opportunities can be beneficial if extra funds become available, whether through bonuses, inheritance, or other sources. It's essential to understand the tradeoffs between sticking to a strict DCA strategy versus setting money aside for potential dip opportunities. While holding extra cash for buying the dip can be interesting, especially for those starting with lump sums or front loading, it might not be as necessary for those consistently DCAing.

All what JJG mean is that lump sum is also an effective approach to accumulate Bitcoin most especially during the DIPs but that shouldn't stop us to keep aside percentage of that funds to DCA,

Surely I am not saying that lump sum is something to apply for dips, especially since I am saying that lump sum and buying on dips are different kinds of strategies that are based on differing reasons for doing one or the other.. the mere fact that you might buy a lot of bitcoin on a dip does not convert that buying on dip to lump sum. .since lump sum is different from buying on dips, even if a lot of members are convoluting the ideas..

It is far better than just saving the money then waiting for the Dip before investing. In context, all strategies can be effective all in one investment setting depending on how and when it is implemented.

Differing strategies may well end up with differing payoffs, and you gotta figure out what you want to do and live with the consequences of your own choices.  

Sure one strategy might pay off more than another strategy, and some strategies might employ gambling aspects that may or may not pay off... and also I doubt that all strategies are necessarily effective, since some strategies might be more effective than others including that some strategies might be better tailored to the personal specifics of a guy, so maybe having personal tailoring is one of the most important things, even if your portfolio might not end up performing as well as another simularly situated person who came into bitcoin at the same time.

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..... you can still have some reserves to take care of sudden needs pending your next income and you can also see reasons with me that lump summing is more better during a drastic DIP even though you don't continue the DCA for sometime again so you could regain the cash that you used in lump summing at a DIP from your conspicuous income that you would have used to DCA and it now stands as a reserved funds.

Maybe this is the part where I am quibbling, since as soon as you say that lump summing is better (or more better) during a dip, from my point of view, you are no longer lump summing but instead you are buying the dip.  So in that sense the idea (or framework) of buying the dip as a motivation supersedes the lump summing idea. Once you have a dip and you are motivated by the dip, you are buying the dip, and it does not matter if you happen to have a lump sum amount that you happen to have set aside.

On the other hand, if you coincidentally receive some extra money, and the BTC price happens to be dipping, then you might be motivated by the fact that you got more money and you are thinking about whether to buy more BTC with it or not, and if you tell yourself that you are going to buy more BTC because the BTC price is dipping, then surely it may seem that you are motivated by buying the dip and not from the mere fact that you suddenly have more money.

Maybe we are going too much into overlapping scenarios, yet it still seems to me that sometimes we are going to hold money aside because we are waiting to buy the dip, and other times, we get the money and we are deciding what to do based on our having had received extra money, so if we receive extra money and we authorize ourselves to buy bitcoin with a certain amount of that money, there are three categories that we can place that authorized amount.. .buy the dip, DCA and/or lump sum... we can put some or all in one category or we can divide it into 2 or 3 of the categories.

If we tell ourselves.. wow.. the BTC price is already dipping, I am going to buy some BTC, the motivation might not be buying the dip as much as having had received some extra money and just deciding to buy right now with a certain amount of it.  On the other hand, if the person receives $1,200 extra and s/he decides to buy $400 right away, put $400 in buying the dip at ($100 at $65,006, $100 at $64,006, $100 at $63,006, and $100 at $62,006 -with current prices at $66,451), and then $400 to DCA with the buying of $50 per week on Tuesdays at 1pm for the next 8 weeks), then the extra money has been plugged into the three categories... so anyhow, repeatedly it just seems confusing and misleading to me to label a buying the dip act as lump summing merely because you might be buying more  than your normal amount upon a dip.. since if you are motivated by the dip or you set your dip prices, then you are still buying the dip, even if you end up being spontaneous about it rather than pre-planning the matter, yet on the other hand, if you end up receiving some amount of money that you had not expected, the mere fact that the BTC price might be dipping may not necessarily be motivated by the dipping as much as it is motivated by the receipt (or discovery) of more money.

However, a beginner may not comprehend these various strategies at the start of their investments as they will be more focused about the DCA because it is easier and doesn't allow regular monitoring of market prices.

 
Yes.. sure a beginner may well be more served by just focusing on ongoing persistent and consistent DCA... but still even a beginner might start to DCA, and then all of a sudden receive extra money and have to decide whether to buy BTC right away or to plug that new money into the three categories.  Let's say if such newbie bitcoiner has an income of around $36k per year, and the person has decided to invest $100 per week (which would amount to $5,200 invested into bitcoin after a year).. so after buying bitcoin for 1-2 months, all of a sudden such newbie received a bonus at work, or inheritance or some other surprise amount of $2,400, so the person may have had authorized such extra money to go to bitcoin and can decide to buy bitcoin right away (which would be equal to half of the already existing yearly amount) or to plug parts of that extra money into the three categories of buying the dip, DCA and lump sum (buying right away), and he could decide to put $800 into each category. .or he could decide some other variation of how to allocate (authorize) that is completely discretionary and flexible to his own wishes including his accounting for his own financial and psychological factors.

I am not trying to complicate between lump summing, buying at a dip price and the DCA but I am more concerned about lump summing only when a dip occurs

 
 Yeah.. lump summing when a dip occurs is not lump summing. .it is buying the dip;.. and if you are saving up some of your extra money in order to buy the dip with a lump sum amount, then you are still buying the dip.. and the mere fact that you have saved up a lot does not convert that into lump summing.  If you are calling buying the dip lump summing, then it seems to me that you are creating unnecessary confusion and convolution of terms.

and continue to DCA some other time that is for someone who have understood the activities of the market.

 
Yeah of course there is nothing wrong with combining of practices including continue to DCA while you are buying the dip.. if you consider that to be a good way of going forward with your BTC accumulation.  Each of us decides what combination of methods and even how much of each to employ based on our various factors regarding discretionary income and also if we might get extra cash coming in from time to time that might create circumstances in which we might have to consider how to strategize our BTC accumulation with the use of the new money coming in  - if we are lucky enough to have such circumstances in which we might consider that we have options regarding how to do our BTC accumulation - including whether we might be taking chances or timing dips with part of our money or if we might just be buying right away that may or may not be considered DCA or lump sum depending if there might be extra money that comes in or if we might be just categorizing our funds from our regular income (or our regular amounts of discretionary income).
 

Just like you said, I don't want it to look like you are making repetition of yourself however it is also important for a beginner who have spent some years DCAing to know how to split their income between buying at Dip prices, lump summing and DCA. thanks for your concise explanation jayjuangee

Of course the more years someone has investing into bitcoin, such person might start to feel like his options might be changing based on an  amount that he has already invested into bitcoin.. There can be changes in the feelings of being prepared for UP with persons who already have bitcoin as compared with folks who have little to no bitcoin.

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You are right, saving up to buy in the dip is not a good strategy especially for we the newbies, a lot of things could happen at that point of saving that could make one lose his or her saves so is better one uses the DCA strategy and start accumulating, I love this DCA I'm using and all thanks to JayJuanGee and others in this forum who discussed about how good the DCA strategy is i read all the ideas you guys issued out on The strategies of Accumulating Bitcoin.
As a newbie is advised to use the DCA strategy as not to disturb your brain on thinking and calculating when there will be a dip. Bitcoin investment is easy based on the kind of investment strategy you are using and it will be better one uses an easy strategy so as to be successful in your Bitcoin accumulation as for me I don't like anything that will disturb my brain and using the DCA method has been a very nice choice and it will also help me get to my target easily without stress and emotional damage's.

Yep.. there is likely never going to be any perfect strategy that maximizes profits and all of that.. so maybe many of us are going to be better served to accumulate as many bitcoin as we can while still attempting to maintain a balance without necessarily getting too greedy... so yeah, one of the great advantage of mostly focusing on some form of DCA (whether it is strict in amount or merely strict in terms of consistency or some other way of doing it) is that there can be a good deal of focus that helps us to tailor our investment amount and our investment frequency in accordance with our own budget and other aspects of our finances and psychology.

All what JJG mean is that lump sum is also an effective approach to accumulate Bitcoin most especially during the DIPs but that shouldn't stop us to keep aside percentage of that funds to DCA, It is far better than just saving the money then waiting for the Dip before investing. In context, all strategies can be effective all in one investment setting depending on how and when it is implemented.

In essence, JJG basically sughests that investing in Bitcoin would be far more successful and profitable if a hybrid strategy was used.

I doubt that I am suggesting which strategy(ies) is (are) best, but that guys have to figure out which strategies is good for them based on their own situation, and surely there can be some strategies that make more sense than others. .depending on how new a person is to bitcoin and other individual factors.. so if each of us knows we could choose our strategy(ies).. so maybe some folks would be better off with strict DCA.. until they get to a certain level of BTC accumulation, but each person has to choose his own level of BTC accumulation.  

I am also suggesting a 4-10 year or longer investment timeline into bitcoin in order to call it an investment rather than trading or gambling, but in the end, guys can do what they want and call it what they want.. so in those cases there might be disagreement regarding their approach to bitcoin, even though each of us is free to figure out our strategy or combination of strategies.

This way, investors could: 
1. profit from the market while it's in a DIP by using the lump sum plan.

I am surely not saying that... .., but I would suggest that if someone comes to bitcoin and they have a plan to invest $100 per week for 5 years, and at the same time, they lump  sum invest with something like $5k, they might also benefit by creating a buying the dip plan too, in order to supplement the lump sum that they started out with and their planned DCA practice.

I am hardly saying anything about profits even mattering in the first cycle or so of investing into bitcoin, since after 4 years or so, there might be some reassessment, including considering the extent to which the BTC buys are profitable.. but I hardly give too many shits about whether the bitcoin investment is profitable in the first 4 years or so.. even though surely it might feel better to be in profits, being in profits is not a central concern (and probably should not be) for the beginner investor during his first cycle.

2. Average out market fluctuations through the DCA strategy and also reducing the risks associated with timing in the market.

I might be saying something similar to that, but really I think that DCA is a great way to manage the amount that you invest into bitcoin, especially since the DCA will come from the discretionary income, so whether the DCA amount is strict or it varies could also depend upon how much a guy's discretionary income varies and other personal choice trade offs the guy might make in regards to whether he wants to be aggressive or whimpy in regards to his bitcoin investment and also in regards to how well he has his finances in order in terms of his various backup funds and/or cash cushions.

You can be able to diversify the approach you use in your investment by employing a hybrid approach, thereby potentially mitigating the risks of losses as well as also maximizing returns. It's true that this method of investing in Bitcoin is more adaptable and may yield greater returns than depending solely on one strategy.

Boy i haven't really thought about a hybrid approach or the possibilities, I guess learning never ends, because this assertion has also opened my windows of perspection and possibilities.

Sure.. I probably have discussed various kinds of ways to combine strategies, but I doubt that I am suggesting that a hybrid approach is preferable to a non-hybrid approach - and surely some folks might not be in a position to take any kind of hybrid approach until they get their finances in order,. so there may well be some preferences and/or benefits to building up an emergency fund and other cash reserves prior to becoming aggressive, and then maybe my own proclamation has been that guys should attempt to be as aggressive as they are able to be without over doing it.. so the devil can be in the details regarding figuring out the extent to which someone might be being sufficiently aggressive without going too far.. and also a guy might not realize that he went too far until he has some kind of an emergency that ends up testing his own set up.

[Tungbulu]

Sure.. I probably have discussed various kinds of ways to combine strategies, but I doubt that I am suggesting that a hybrid approach is preferable to a non-hybrid approach - and surely some folks might not be in a position to take any kind of hybrid approach until they get their finances in order,. so there may well be some preferences and/or benefits to building up an emergency fund and other cash reserves prior to becoming aggressive, and then maybe my own proclamation has been that guys should attempt to be as aggressive as they are able to be without over doing it.. so the devil can be in the details regarding figuring out the extent to which someone might be being sufficiently aggressive without going too far.. and also a guy might not realize that he went too far until he has some kind of an emergency that ends up testing his own set up.

If I'm getting your point correctly.
You're saying that a non-hybrid approach is a lot more preferable to a hybrid approach, but if one must decide to deploy the hybrid approach, they must first keep their finances in check.

And that the secret and key to am effective hybrid approach is finding a way to strike a balance between investment flexibility and financial discipline, by considering a framework the can be able to combine one's investment growth, one's financial stability and being overly prepared for emergencies that may possibly arise.

First building an emergency fund that'll possibly cover one's living expenses for at least 3 to 6 months as well as building other reserves funds, in a liquid and low risk asset.

Is that it, or am I still missing the point?

[JayJuanGee]

Sure.. I probably have discussed various kinds of ways to combine strategies, but I doubt that I am suggesting that a hybrid approach is preferable to a non-hybrid approach - and surely some folks might not be in a position to take any kind of hybrid approach until they get their finances in order,. so there may well be some preferences and/or benefits to building up an emergency fund and other cash reserves prior to becoming aggressive, and then maybe my own proclamation has been that guys should attempt to be as aggressive as they are able to be without over doing it.. so the devil can be in the details regarding figuring out the extent to which someone might be being sufficiently aggressive without going too far.. and also a guy might not realize that he went too far until he has some kind of an emergency that ends up testing his own set up.

If I'm getting your point correctly.

To me, it seems that some guys and/or maybe several guys get it wrong when they try to paraphrase me or to sum up what I am saying in their own words, so they end up stating something different than what I said, and surely there can be a bit of annoyance when I feel that I have to respond to those kinds of matters.. so I am not sure about the solution especially if guys some guys are paraphrasing and/or summarizing merely in an honest attempt to get clarification, but still get it wrong... so then I find myself repeating what I believe to be fairly trivial points, and in the end, maybe it does not matter what I think and/or what I said, even though it still feels uncomfortable for guys saying that other guys should do x, y or z because JJG said a, b or c.

You're saying that a non-hybrid approach is a lot more preferable to a hybrid approach, but if one must decide to deploy the hybrid approach, they must first keep their finances in check.

Of course, I am suggesting that there is a certain value in having solid financial foundations that allow for being more aggressive in your BTC buying/accumulating.. So the stronger a guy's finances, the more aggressive that he can be.

I am not trying to tell anyone or suggest to anyone how they should invest in terms of their own needs to figure out what works for them, so many times if we are talking about someone who is brand new to bitcoin, it is likely important that they get started in bitcoin as soon as possible and don't be diddly daddling around, but just because someone is new to bitcoin, that does not mean that any of us are going to know their finances, so some guys might be able to start out by lump summing and other guys might ONLY have DCA as an option, and surely some guys might already have some emergency funds in place, and other guys might have very messed up finances in terms of having a lot of debt and lack of clarity regarding how much disposable income that they might have.. even though I think that some people have some really messed up finances, an overwhelming majority of folks are going to have as much knowledge of their finances to know whether or not (at this particular moment if we are talking with them on the street) they can buy $10 worth of bitcoin.   

And that the secret and key to am effective hybrid approach is finding a way to strike a balance between investment flexibility and financial discipline, by considering a framework the can be able to combine one's investment growth, one's financial stability and being overly prepared for emergencies that may possibly arise.

You seem to be speaking a bit of gobble-dee-gook here, yet surely I did not say that there is any need to be overly prepared for emergencies, yet the more prepared that anyone is in regards to emergencies, and other financial matters, the more aggressive they can be in their accumulation of bitcoin.

First building an emergency fund that'll possibly cover one's living expenses for at least 3 to 6 months as well as building other reserves funds, in a liquid and low risk asset.

 I repeatedly staid that I believe that there is no need to build your emergency fund in advance of investing into bitcoin, and I also repeatedly said that it is good to get started investing into bitcoin right away, including the possibility of building an emergency fund at the same time, in the event that someone might only start out by having something like 2-4 weeks worth of extra cash that he might have available. 

Sure there could be some folks who know their situation and they know that they don't even have 2 weeks of extra cash available, they are not clear about their income and/or their expenses, which means that they are not even clear if they have any disposable income, then those folks should not be buying any bitcoin, but if anyone can determine that they actually have disposable income, such as $10 that they can use to buy bitcoin, then they should be able to get started buying bitcoin and like you suggested, the more they get their financial and psychological shit in order, then the more aggressive they can be in terms of their bitcoin accumulation... so yeah, there could be some needs to at least get their emergency fund up to 3 months of their expenses prior to becoming aggressive in their bitcoin accumulation, but I surely had not said that they need to get their emergency fund up to 3 months of their expenses prior to getting started in bitcoin since anyone should be able to build his emergency fund up to 3 months and to slowly buy bitcoin at the same time, so if he has around $500 per month of absolute bare minimum expenses, then he has to get his emergency fund up to $1,500 at some point and maybe he might choose to grow his bitcoin investment and his emergency fund at right around the same rate, so that they  both reach 3 months around the same time.. and surely these are discretionary matters regarding how to do these kinds of things in safe ways and potentially serious attempting to get involved and get started in bitcoin as soon as possible.. while at the same time, getting his financial and psychological matters in order by making sure that he has a plan in place for building his emergency fund..  people are responsible to make their own judgements in these regards, but personally I see little to no reason for such hypothetical person to spend 3-6 months or even longer such as a year building his emergency fund up to 3 months, when previously he ONLY had around $200 to $400 in his reserves, and then he absolutely is not buying any BTC during that time while he is build up his emergency fund.. makes little sense to me and seems overly conservative, cautious and keeps the guy a no coiner for way longer than he needs to be.. in other words, get the fuck started and get some bitcoin, especially if you can figure out that you have any amount of discretionary/disposable income. and if the guy has $200 to $400 that he already considers to be disposable income (it just happens to be reserves and/or float or an emergency fund), there should be no reason that he cannot use $10 of that (or some other amount he finds to be reasonable) to buy bitcoin and at least convert himself away from being a no coiner.

Is that it, or am I still missing the point?

You are not very far off.. but it might not be good to be trying to paraphrase me...and no problem if you are trying to engage with the ideas and working out your views on how to balance these various matters of becoming a coiner and at the same time figuring out how aggressive that any of us can afford to be without overdoing it and while trying to both build our bitcoin and build the solidness of our bitcoin accumulation within our financial and psychological means and within our individual circumstances..

[I_Anime]

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You are making sense, Dips are inevitable in the market and some investors are not ready to invest when the price of Bitcoin is stable, for example how we know the stability price of Bitcoin to range between $70k and above, so a few investors might actually want to see the price go below before they invest but from another view it is not always efficient most especially when the Dip the investor have in mind is far more below the stable price, he may keep on waiting for a longer time untill the price begin to surge further instead of declining to his expectations and will be left with no other option than to buy higher than expected.

We might be going through consolidation for nearly 4 months, but I doubt that "stable" is any kind of an accurate way of describing BTC prices or BTC price dynamics.

saying Bitcoin is stable could be kinda misleading and may not be the right choice of word to best describe Bitcoin prices or even a consolidation period because bitcoin is originally known for its volatility and its rapid price fluctuations.

When talk about Consolidation in the bitcoin market, it simply implies a period of time when the bitcoin price range are relatively narrow, but this is far from stability, it's more like a recuperation period or a pause in Bitcoin price to prepare the market for the next significant movement in bitcoin price.

The stability or instability of bitcoin are less concern to me as long as you are for the long-term. Investors like myself don't care about the bitcoin price stability,  rather what matters the most is believing in bitcoin potentials and growth. The main focus is on accumulating and holding for thelong-term rather than worrying about price stability. Due to its volatile in nature bitcoin can not be stable bitcoin price always fluctuate but it's long-term trends has been consistently upwards. Bitcoin's history of resilience and appreciation in value overtime provides confidence for investors, so keep your eyes on the value bitcoin provides in the long run and let the instability take care of themselves.  

You make sense mate Bitcoin is more profitable when held for long term purpose due to it unpredictability in price, but our main concern shouldn't be on the instability of Bitcoin because that is it's nature rather we should concentrate on how we can accumulate enough Bitcoin and hodl for a longer period of time, with the help of the DCA strategy one can accumulate more Bitcoin in different price level either weekly or monthly and hodl for long it can be from the range of 4-10 years and above with your discretionary income readily available so you won't sell out your Bitcoin hodling along the line or on a short period of time.

Exactly, holding Bitcoin for long-term investment is the best, rather than trading with it though I'm not against trading and stuff but is only advisable for those that have good knowledge and skills when it comes to trading , but when it comes to investing such skills ain't needed all one need is just some basic knowledge and some nice discretionary income , and he or she is ready to go (that's the beauty of investing in bitcoin). But when comes to holding one should learn how to plan ahead as he or she are holding, because without proper planning one can endup messing with his investment. Like selling it too early , or using it as an emergency funds (which is wrong) because long-term holding is all about patient, and the number of stashes one had accumulated, that's why we don't only have to hold and wait we have to accumulate till we hit the point of having enough Bitcoin Stash in our portfolio.

[Zackz5000]

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You are making sense, Dips are inevitable in the market and some investors are not ready to invest when the price of Bitcoin is stable, for example how we know the stability price of Bitcoin to range between $70k and above, so a few investors might actually want to see the price go below before they invest but from another view it is not always efficient most especially when the Dip the investor have in mind is far more below the stable price, he may keep on waiting for a longer time untill the price begin to surge further instead of declining to his expectations and will be left with no other option than to buy higher than expected.

We might be going through consolidation for nearly 4 months, but I doubt that "stable" is any kind of an accurate way of describing BTC prices or BTC price dynamics.

saying Bitcoin is stable could be kinda misleading and may not be the right choice of word to best describe Bitcoin prices or even a consolidation period because bitcoin is originally known for its volatility and its rapid price fluctuations.

When talk about Consolidation in the bitcoin market, it simply implies a period of time when the bitcoin price range are relatively narrow, but this is far from stability, it's more like a recuperation period or a pause in Bitcoin price to prepare the market for the next significant movement in bitcoin price.

The stability or instability of bitcoin are less concern to me as long as you are for the long-term. Investors like myself don't care about the bitcoin price stability,  rather what matters the most is believing in bitcoin potentials and growth. The main focus is on accumulating and holding for thelong-term rather than worrying about price stability. Due to its volatile in nature bitcoin can not be stable bitcoin price always fluctuate but it's long-term trends has been consistently upwards. Bitcoin's history of resilience and appreciation in value overtime provides confidence for investors, so keep your eyes on the value bitcoin provides in the long run and let the instability take care of themselves.  

You make sense mate Bitcoin is more profitable when held for long term purpose due to it unpredictability in price, but our main concern shouldn't be on the instability of Bitcoin because that is it's nature rather we should concentrate on how we can accumulate enough Bitcoin and hodl for a longer period of time, with the help of the DCA strategy one can accumulate more Bitcoin in different price level either weekly or monthly and hodl for long it can be from the range of 4-10 years and above with your discretionary income readily available so you won't sell out your Bitcoin hodling along the line or on a short period of time.

Exactly, holding Bitcoin for long-term investment is the best, rather than trading with it though I'm not against trading and stuff but is only advisable for those that have good knowledge and skills when it comes to trading , but when it comes to investing such skills ain't needed all one need is just some basic knowledge and some nice discretionary income , and he or she is ready to go (that's the beauty of investing in bitcoin). But when comes to holding one should learn how to plan ahead as he or she are holding, because without proper planning one can endup messing with his investment. Like selling it too early , or using it as an emergency funds (which is wrong) because long-term holding is all about patient, and the number of stashes one had accumulated, that's why we don't only have to hold and wait we have to accumulate till we hit the point of having enough Bitcoin Stash in our portfolio.

Yes as long as Bitcoin investment is concern we don't only need to hold and wait but we should just keep on accumulating more and more Bitcoin until we are satisfied with the quantity of Bitcoin we have accumulated not in less than 3 years below but 4,5 years and above, we can buy more Bitcoin using both DCA method and the lump sum strategy which will help us accumulate more Bitcoin in a long run.

[Justbillywitt]

JayJuanGee I really love how you break things down so can understand you very well, you are correct when you say the more financially stable one is the more aggressive he may become in his investment, one can compare someone who is not financially stable and one who's financially stable in terms of being aggressive in his or her Bitcoin accumulation.
As for me I can't be aggressive in my accumulation for now because I'm also building my emergency, reserve and float funds, before I started my Bitcoin accumulation I had some savings which I did not refer as emergency funds but because of this forum i had the knowledge of having an emergency, reserve and float funds so all I did was to divide my savings and put into different account for them to serve as my emergency, reserve and float funds, but is not enough so am accumulating my Bitcoin and also building my emergency, reserve and float funds so it can be very strong.

One can build his emergency, reserves and float funds along side Accumulating Bitcoin as long as is not affecting him or her in anyway, that the point of building one's emergency, reserves and float funds and also accumulating Bitcoin one won't be aggressive in his or her accumulation, he or she may be aggressive in his Bitcoin accumulation journey if he or she has met his target in building his emergency reserves and float funds and then stopped.

I also agree with you when you said the more prepared that anyone is in regards to emergencies, and other financial matters, the more aggressive they can be in their accumulation of bitcoin.
When someone has a very strong emergency, reserves and float funds already kept he will be more aggressive in his Bitcoin accumulation journey because he or she has already solved one problem that always affect people in the accumulation journey and he or she has nothing to fear because he has kept funds that can help in handling issues without dipping into his or her Bitcoin investment.

Well I don't know how other people do it but for me I don't think it's necessary to build emergency, reserve, and floating funds before you start buying bitcoin. You can actually do all at the same time provided you have allocated a certain percentage to all of these funds before your salary comes in with the week or within the month end.  You already know your salary before hand, you can say 10% to emergency funds, 15% reserve funds, 5% floating funds, 20% investment funds, and so on depending on how many places you want to share your money into. When you say you want to build up other funds first before you can start buying bitcoin, you are wasting time and procastination is gradually setting in. It's best you do all side by side, that way you are actually more on the safe side. No matter the income you are earning, once you put everything in percentage it will be very easier for you to divide you money once it comes.
Your approach might work for you, don't get wrong, but I think it will be better if everything is done along side each other to eliminate the risk of procastination and possibly missing out on buying the bitcoin.

[Bravut]

Yes as long as Bitcoin investment is concern we don't only need to hold and wait but we should just keep on accumulating more and more Bitcoin until we are satisfied with the quantity of Bitcoin we have accumulated not in less than 3 years below but 4,5 years and above, we can buy more Bitcoin using both DCA method and the lump sum strategy which will help us accumulate more Bitcoin in a long run.

Well said, I would also love to add that the stash of Bitcoin any investor would accumulate is not solely dependent on the number of years, but the amount invested aggressively or conservatively is what builds the portfolio. An investor who is investing $10 for 4,5 years above as you said would not have any good stash of Bitcoin, but another who invest $200 using same time frame will accumulate more, thus we see the relation, it goes on and on.
In essence what matters is Amount readily for the investment aligning with your plan (Target), with any suitable strategy used by the investor.

[Felicity_Tide]

Yes as long as Bitcoin investment is concern we don't only need to hold and wait but we should just keep on accumulating more and more Bitcoin until we are satisfied with the quantity of Bitcoin we have accumulated not in less than 3 years below but 4,5 years and above, we can buy more Bitcoin using both DCA method and the lump sum strategy which will help us accumulate more Bitcoin in a long run.

Am not sure of qwhat you meant by being satisfied, nor do I think other investors who consider the future would use such word. I am very sure that no one is ever satisfied with making more money (even the world's richest people), so why should we be satisfied with making investments?. The continuous use of the DCA strategy for at least four years, before doing whatever you want to do with it doesn't mean someone is satisfied. There might just be a very important project that has been sidelined, with the intention of making use of the investment after at least four years.

In another sense, if your portfolio happens to be very high, but you keep getting extra personal funds, then you should continue to invest. Or do you prefer to waste your extra funds just because you feel your accumulation portfolio is satisfactory enough?.

[Frankolala]

Yes as long as Bitcoin investment is concern we don't only need to hold and wait but we should just keep on accumulating more and more Bitcoin until we are satisfied with the quantity of Bitcoin we have accumulated not in less than 3 years below but 4,5 years and above, we can buy more Bitcoin using both DCA method and the lump sum strategy which will help us accumulate more Bitcoin in a long run.

Am not sure of qwhat you meant by being satisfied, nor do I think other investors who consider the future would use such word. I am very sure that no one is ever satisfied with making more money (even the world's richest people), so why should we be satisfied with making investments?. The continuous use of the DCA strategy for at least four years, before doing whatever you want to do with it doesn't mean someone is satisfied. There might just be a very important project that has been sidelined, with the intention of making use of the investment after at least four years.

In another sense, if your portfolio happens to be very high, but you keep getting extra personal funds, then you should continue to invest. Or do you prefer to waste your extra funds just because you feel your accumulation portfolio is satisfactory enough?.

Yea, the word "satisfy" depends on the individual bitcoin target that he feels is enough for him to acquire based on his own discretionary income in which he is using to buy bitcoin. However, I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income. A rich guy who is ready to invest in bitcoin using DCA regularly without missing will have a high chance of reaching his bitcoin target because he has all the resources he needs around him to make it happen fast compare to someone that is an average earner.

[Zackz5000]

Yes as long as Bitcoin investment is concern we don't only need to hold and wait but we should just keep on accumulating more and more Bitcoin until we are satisfied with the quantity of Bitcoin we have accumulated not in less than 3 years below but 4,5 years and above, we can buy more Bitcoin using both DCA method and the lump sum strategy which will help us accumulate more Bitcoin in a long run.

Am not sure of qwhat you meant by being satisfied, nor do I think other investors who consider the future would use such word. I am very sure that no one is ever satisfied with making more money (even the world's richest people), so why should we be satisfied with making investments?. The continuous use of the DCA strategy for at least four years, before doing whatever you want to do with it doesn't mean someone is satisfied. There might just be a very important project that has been sidelined, with the intention of making use of the investment after at least four years.

In another sense, if your portfolio happens to be very high, but you keep getting extra personal funds, then you should continue to invest. Or do you prefer to waste your extra funds just because you feel your accumulation portfolio is satisfactory enough?.

The satisfaction I mean is that you can't hold your Bitcoin forever or is it possible to hold your Bitcoin investment forever? I think that answer is no, for there is a certain point you will hold your Bitcoin when you have accumulated enough for a long time you can decide to sell out part of your Bitcoin hodling that is the satisfied I means so don't get me wrong.

[Miles2006]

Yes as long as Bitcoin investment is concern we don't only need to hold and wait but we should just keep on accumulating more and more Bitcoin until we are satisfied with the quantity of Bitcoin we have accumulated not in less than 3 years below but 4,5 years and above, we can buy more Bitcoin using both DCA method and the lump sum strategy which will help us accumulate more Bitcoin in a long run.

Well said, I would also love to add that the stash of Bitcoin any investor would accumulate is not solely dependent on the number of years, but the amount invested aggressively or conservatively is what builds the portfolio. An investor who is investing $10 for 4,5 years above as you said would not have any good stash of Bitcoin, but another who invest $200 using same time frame will accumulate more, thus we see the relation, it goes on and on.
In essence what matters is Amount readily for the investment aligning with your plan (Target), with any suitable strategy used by the investor.

At some point I disagree because an investor will still continue to accumulate beyond the cycle but, just because most people have the sufficient income they can double their amount at any given time, I still want to emphasize on the $10 per week because I have heard of most cases when people choose an investment choice at first and they decide to observe first using the little they have at the moment and whenever they realize the investment is really a good investment like bitcoin then you can see the investor investing aggressively like for example, when an investor is sure about the investment you see them making every possible means to accumulate and if possible they start increasing the amount monthly depending on their discretionary income, secondly there’s this set of people who have gotten informations about bitcoin and they know how bitcoin works, if you observe carefully you’ll discover the second set of people and their approach towards accumulating bitcoin will be totally different from an old investor. We don’t have to mix up things knowing fully well bitcoin investment comes with planning so if anyone is willing to invest 20% weekly that’s their plan, the time range is not the problem at first as investor should practice a healthy investing plan.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income.

I believe that no one should ever be satisfied with making money, when you're stagnant and always receiving debit alerts without credits, it hurts your finance gradually until its obvious that your finances are diminishing. Investments are what needs to be made on a regular to keep your residual income pumping in and increases the security of your finances.

In bitcoin accumulation journey, the most important thing is to start up. Starting with $10 monthly isn't a bad thing at all, if that's his spare funds, its welcome. Remember you invest with your spare funds and not emergency funds. One good thing is the desire to invest. Once there is desire, there possibility of a good result is high. The person that started with $10 monthly and has a target can increase his investment capacity with time as his finances improves.

[JayJuanGee]

Yes as long as Bitcoin investment is concern we don't only need to hold and wait but we should just keep on accumulating more and more Bitcoin until we are satisfied with the quantity of Bitcoin we have accumulated not in less than 3 years below but 4,5 years and above, we can buy more Bitcoin using both DCA method and the lump sum strategy which will help us accumulate more Bitcoin in a long run.

Am not sure of qwhat you meant by being satisfied, nor do I think other investors who consider the future would use such word. I am very sure that no one is ever satisfied with making more money (even the world's richest people), so why should we be satisfied with making investments?. The continuous use of the DCA strategy for at least four years, before doing whatever you want to do with it doesn't mean someone is satisfied. There might just be a very important project that has been sidelined, with the intention of making use of the investment after at least four years.

In another sense, if your portfolio happens to be very high, but you keep getting extra personal funds, then you should continue to invest. Or do you prefer to waste your extra funds just because you feel your accumulation portfolio is satisfactory enough?.

Yea, the word "satisfy" depends on the individual bitcoin target that he feels is enough for him to acquire based on his own discretionary income in which he is using to buy bitcoin. However, I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income. A rich guy who is ready to invest in bitcoin using DCA regularly without missing will have a high chance of reaching his bitcoin target because he has all the resources he needs around him to make it happen fast compare to someone that is an average earner.

For example, there could be guys who keep their monthly expenses to $500 or lower, yet maybe they earn around $2,100 per month, and so  this person would be investing around 3x the size of his monthly expenses, so a guy like that might make a lot of progress towards getting to fuck you status or some other "satisfied status" as compared with a guy who might make $6k per month and then has $5k worth of expenses, including maybe not even investing much more than $100 per week into bitcoin.. .. Such a guy is going to take a lot longer to get to fuck you status, not only because his living expenses are high, but also because how much he is investing is not very high, even in order to attain his standard of living.

The guy with the lower expenses could increase his expenses later in life after he has been building his bitcoin investing.. so maybe his goal is to get his bitcoin investment to high levels, even though he only makes around 1/3 the amount odf the guy making $6k per month.

[Adbitco]

Yea, the word "satisfy" depends on the individual bitcoin target that he feels is enough for him to acquire based on his own discretionary income in which he is using to buy bitcoin. However, I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income. A rich guy who is ready to invest in bitcoin using DCA regularly without missing will have a high chance of reaching his bitcoin target because he has all the resources he needs around him to make it happen fast compare to someone that is an average earner.

A question to ask does someone really feel satisfied while holding Bitcoin? To me I will simply say no because as long as the cash keep flowing you would always want to accumulate enough Bitcoin since bitcoin wallet doesn't have a maximum limit, in as much as your income keep flowing and you apply DCA method then you can never be satisfied even though you have about 10,000 BTC once the income keeps coming you will always apply your DCA money to increase your portfolio.

Most people who had thousands of BTC never stop at one or two they keep increasing their portfolio through DCA except for those people who are on an average job that pays little that could take time to increase their BTC holding in their portfolio.

[JayJuanGee]

Yea, the word "satisfy" depends on the individual bitcoin target that he feels is enough for him to acquire based on his own discretionary income in which he is using to buy bitcoin. However, I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income. A rich guy who is ready to invest in bitcoin using DCA regularly without missing will have a high chance of reaching his bitcoin target because he has all the resources he needs around him to make it happen fast compare to someone that is an average earner.

A question to ask does someone really feel satisfied while holding Bitcoin? To me I will simply say no because as long as the cash keep flowing you would always want to accumulate enough Bitcoin since bitcoin wallet doesn't have a maximum limit, in as much as your income keep flowing and you apply DCA method then you can never be satisfied even though you have about 10,000 BTC once the income keeps coming you will always apply your DCA money to increase your portfolio.

Most people who had thousands of BTC never stop at one or two they keep increasing their portfolio through DCA except for those people who are on an average job that pays little that could take time to increase their BTC holding in their portfolio.

You seem to be talking about potential personality problems that some people might have in terms of never having enough.

Let's say that you had an income of about $50k in early 2013, and so in the beginning or 2013, you started accumulating around $100 per week of bitcoin, and so you kept your job, and so you don't consider after some point you are going to feel that you have enough BTC?  After 9 years from early 2013 to early 2022, you had invested right around $47k and you had accumulated nearly 133 BTC.  Wouldn't you start to feel that you have enough BTC at some point?  or do you still need more?  Even if your income doubled from $50k in 2013 to $100k in 2022, don't you consider at some point you have enough BTC to start to withdraw and maybe you don't need your $100k job if you have enough BTC to provide the same level (or more) income?

[Popkon6]

Yea, the word "satisfy" depends on the individual bitcoin target that he feels is enough for him to acquire based on his own discretionary income in which he is using to buy bitcoin. However, I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income. A rich guy who is ready to invest in bitcoin using DCA regularly without missing will have a high chance of reaching his bitcoin target because he has all the resources he needs around him to make it happen fast compare to someone that is an average earner.

A question to ask does someone really feel satisfied while holding Bitcoin? To me I will simply say no because as long as the cash keep flowing you would always want to accumulate enough Bitcoin since bitcoin wallet doesn't have a maximum limit, in as much as your income keep flowing and you apply DCA method then you can never be satisfied even though you have about 10,000 BTC once the income keeps coming you will always apply your DCA money to increase your portfolio.

Most people who had thousands of BTC never stop at one or two they keep increasing their portfolio through DCA except for those people who are on an average job that pays little that could take time to increase their BTC holding in their portfolio.

You seem to be talking about potential personality problems that some people might have in terms of never having enough.

Let's say that you had an income of about $50k in early 2013, and so in the beginning or 2013, you started accumulating around $100 per week of bitcoin, and so you kept your job, and so you don't consider after some point you are going to feel that you have enough BTC?  After 9 years you had invested right around $47k and you had accumulated nearly 133 BTC.  Wouldn't you start to feel that you have enough BTC at some point?  or do you still need more?  Even if your income doubled from $50k in 2013 to $100k in 2022, don't you consider at some point you have enough BTC to start to withdraw and maybe you don't need your $100k job if you have enough BTC to provide the same level (or more) income?

Demand is inexhaustible, if everyone has bitcoins in their wallets everyone will be more in demand and will take initiative to accumulate more bitcoins. You notice that people who have accumulated bitcoins in the past are enthusiastic enough to still accumulate in the present, because that person must have understood the joy inside of accumulating bitcoins. 
The higher the income in a person's life, the more basic needs will increase in his life, so a person is busy with various activities in addition to his job. And I think it's normal for that place to be busy with Bitcoin, because the more busy with Bitcoin, the more successful that person is. 
Of course, if we look at 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, we can know all the details.

[JayJuanGee]

Yea, the word "satisfy" depends on the individual bitcoin target that he feels is enough for him to acquire based on his own discretionary income in which he is using to buy bitcoin. However, I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income. A rich guy who is ready to invest in bitcoin using DCA regularly without missing will have a high chance of reaching his bitcoin target because he has all the resources he needs around him to make it happen fast compare to someone that is an average earner.

A question to ask does someone really feel satisfied while holding Bitcoin? To me I will simply say no because as long as the cash keep flowing you would always want to accumulate enough Bitcoin since bitcoin wallet doesn't have a maximum limit, in as much as your income keep flowing and you apply DCA method then you can never be satisfied even though you have about 10,000 BTC once the income keeps coming you will always apply your DCA money to increase your portfolio.

Most people who had thousands of BTC never stop at one or two they keep increasing their portfolio through DCA except for those people who are on an average job that pays little that could take time to increase their BTC holding in their portfolio.

You seem to be talking about potential personality problems that some people might have in terms of never having enough.

Let's say that you had an income of about $50k in early 2013, and so in the beginning or 2013, you started accumulating around $100 per week of bitcoin, and so you kept your job, and so you don't consider after some point you are going to feel that you have enough BTC?  After 9 years you had invested right around $47k and you had accumulated nearly 133 BTC.  Wouldn't you start to feel that you have enough BTC at some point?  or do you still need more?  Even if your income doubled from $50k in 2013 to $100k in 2022, don't you consider at some point you have enough BTC to start to withdraw and maybe you don't need your $100k job if you have enough BTC to provide the same level (or more) income?

Demand is inexhaustible, if everyone has bitcoins in their wallets everyone will be more in demand and will take initiative to accumulate more bitcoins. You notice that people who have accumulated bitcoins in the past are enthusiastic enough to still accumulate in the present, because that person must have understood the joy inside of accumulating bitcoins. 
The higher the income in a person's life, the more basic needs will increase in his life, so a person is busy with various activities in addition to his job. And I think it's normal for that place to be busy with Bitcoin, because the more busy with Bitcoin, the more successful that person is. 
Of course, if we look at 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, we can know all the details.

Here's the link that shows the amount of 133 BTC accumulated from early 2013 to early 2022 with around $47k invested at $100 per week. https://dcabtc.com?sd=2013-01-01&sda=custom&f=weekly&d=9_years&ac=10000&c=true

I don't buy it.

I think that at some point people have enough BTC, so you can imagine all that you want about people not having enough, but there surely are ways to live quite well off of 133 BTC, especially if your earlier standard of living had been around $100k per year... and you could give up your job and largely start to draw that same amount of income or more income than that each year and likely into perpetuity including accounting for increases in the cost of living and/or the likely ongoing and seemingly inevitable debasement of the dollar and other fiat currencies.

Currently, 133 BTC has a spot price of nearly $9 million and a 200 WMA price (which I believe to be more important of nearly $5 million.

https://bitcoindata.science/withdrawal-strategy

There is likely merely a need to think a bit more realistically in terms of not needing to have to work and still earn similar or more income than you are actually earning.. People maybe fantasize , but they actually don't have such 133 BTC or whatever other amount that I am suggesting should be enough based on already existing lifestyle and ability to maintain such lifestyle including potentially better with merely living off of their BTC at a reasonably sustainable withdrawal rate .. and whether there is still a need to continue to earn income and buy more bitcoin seems a bit of a fantasy way of thinking about the situation of someone else to me in terms of proclaiming no one is ever satisfied with being able to start to live off of their bitcoin rather than having an ongoing feeling of needing to continue to accumulate more BTC... yeah some people are never satisfied.. yet that does not mean that they should  not be able to live well with bitcoin, even the example that I gave...and there are a lot of similar examples that I could give in which "enough" BTC has likely been achieved given the person's past lifestyle situation and even possible expectations to live similarly, to improve and/or to account for inflation/debasement of the dollar and other fiats.

[Lidger]

Yea, the word "satisfy" depends on the individual bitcoin target that he feels is enough for him to acquire based on his own discretionary income in which he is using to buy bitcoin. However, I feel that anyone using DCA strategy to by bitcoin for as low as $10 might not get to the extend that he will say that he has enough Bitcoin until maybe 30yrs-40yrs time.

So considering the word satisfy, it depends on how old that you are and for how long will you continue building your bitcoin portfolio with the amount that you are using to DCA regularly based on your discretionary income. A rich guy who is ready to invest in bitcoin using DCA regularly without missing will have a high chance of reaching his bitcoin target because he has all the resources he needs around him to make it happen fast compare to someone that is an average earner.

A question to ask does someone really feel satisfied while holding Bitcoin? To me I will simply say no because as long as the cash keep flowing you would always want to accumulate enough Bitcoin since bitcoin wallet doesn't have a maximum limit, in as much as your income keep flowing and you apply DCA method then you can never be satisfied even though you have about 10,000 BTC once the income keeps coming you will always apply your DCA money to increase your portfolio.

Most people who had thousands of BTC never stop at one or two they keep increasing their portfolio through DCA except for those people who are on an average job that pays little that could take time to increase their BTC holding in their portfolio.

If we can naturally accept the fact that after investing in Bitcoin and holding that investment we may experience a temporary loss of money, then we will certainly not hesitate to hold Bitcoin. I have invested the market has changed a bit and if that affects us then surely we will not be able to hold our investment for a long time. You have to forget the illusion of the amount of money that you have invested and the amount of money that you will invest regularly and you have to assume that this money is fully deducted from your total money. The invested money will not be of any use to you, you don't care if you gain or lose, if you can plan like this, you will be successful in keeping your investment for a long time.