★★★★ [CAIx] ★ First 100% PoS At Launch ★ PSP ★★★★

[TheGer]

And here we have a complete and utter fool.....

20% of coins generated could never be exchanged.[/b] That's a huge percentage -

1 in 5 coins could never be exchanged.
 The correct way to have done this would have been for the pools to shut down so that EVERYBODY could exchange their coins. This was simply a lottery.

I agree. For me this is simply scam . I hope ppl do not mine this coin.

[maxsinner]

Coinmarketcap is soooo annoying. They still show Caishen and 1,986,398 CAIX*

What kind of crypto-noob is running that site They still link to http://caiblk.broken-arrow.pl/chain/Caishen

Stuhlman, did you already fill this in? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IZf5cBivam_93zENT_arFFuvWDidHGjWxoTMVmFSoWg/viewform

[virtualfaqs]

Tagged.

[Rabbit80]

@klopper

I am sorry but I expect a response from TheStuhlman.

Other people think like me that the communication wasn’t good!

I call complete and utter BS on that. The communication from Stuhlman was great and the only people who whine are people who intentionally mined until the very end in order get coins on low difficulty and you guys now come here, blaming the developer who did everything in his powers to make this transition as smooth as possible.

I don't disagree that Sthulman's communication was good - It was simply misleading and easy to misread or not follow exactly what was happening. I (incorrectly) assumed that mining would stop once the 1.6 million had been mined and that we could then exchange our coins. At no point was it mentioned (that I recall) that there was the possibility that 1 in 5 coins would not be available for exchange.

I could have forgiven maybe 2-3% of coins to make up for lost wallets etc, but 20% is an enormous number. This is what SHOULD have been communicated and the pools SHOULD have been shut down OR the block reward changed to ZERO to prevent this. There were plenty of ways this could have been prevented.

[maxsinner]

@klopper

I am sorry but I expect a response from TheStuhlman.

Other people think like me that the communication wasn’t good!

I call complete and utter BS on that. The communication from Stuhlman was great and the only people who whine are people who intentionally mined until the very end in order get coins on low difficulty and you guys now come here, blaming the developer who did everything in his powers to make this transition as smooth as possible.

I don't disagree that Sthulman's communication was good - It was simply misleading and easy to misread or not follow exactly what was happening. I (incorrectly) assumed that mining would stop once the 1.6 million had been mined and that we could then exchange our coins. At no point was it mentioned (that I recall) that there was the possibility that 1 in 5 coins would not be available for exchange.

I could have forgiven maybe 2-3% of coins to make up for lost wallets etc, but 20% is an enormous number. This is what SHOULD have been communicated and the pools SHOULD have been shut down OR the block reward changed to ZERO to prevent this. There were plenty of ways this could have been prevented.

TheStuhlman can't force pools to close operations. Stop blaming everybody else and take a long look in the mirror. It's your fault and nobody else's and there was nothing misleading in the announcement. Learn to take responsibility for your own action or inaction.

[Rabbit80]

TheStuhlman can't force pools to close operations. Stop blaming everybody else and take a long look in the mirror. It's your fault and nobody else's and there was nothing misleading in the announcement. Learn to take responsibility for your own action or inaction.

Really?? - Stuhlmans nitro pools could have closed for starters (Which he IS responsible for!)

I certainly can't keep track of the announcements 24 hours a day, and it wasn't clear that there WOULD be more coins mined than could be exchanged. Regardless of whether or not I managed to exchange my own coins, there is still the issue that 20% of mined coins could not be exchanged. This is not the fault of the miners, but is the responsibility of the devs. It could have been stopped by changing block reward to 0 even if the pools did not shut down. No matter what happened to me - there would always be a huge percentage of miners lose out because of the overmining - WHICH COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY THE DEVS!

[ipsec]

Due to a lot of work I don't get the chance to follow the cryptoworld, yet still it was clear to me that I had to exchange my CAI to CAIx asap.
I don't think the devs did anything wrong here... They clearly said mining CAI will be possible as long as the CAIx supply doesn't run out.

I think after 3-6 months we will have  CaiY, after next CaiZ and more................................. Gz devs
I think first, they should close the mining and 1-2 months after the closing end exchange.

[TheGer]

So you assumed things instead of properly reading what was posted in this thread......  Good to know.

[quarkkid]

@klopper

I am sorry but I expect a response from TheStuhlman.

Other people think like me that the communication wasn’t good!

I call complete and utter BS on that. The communication from Stuhlman was great and the only people who whine are people who intentionally mined until the very end in order get coins on low difficulty and you guys now come here, blaming the developer who did everything in his powers to make this transition as smooth as possible.

I don't disagree that Sthulman's communication was good - It was simply misleading and easy to misread or not follow exactly what was happening. I (incorrectly) assumed that mining would stop once the 1.6 million had been mined and that we could then exchange our coins. At no point was it mentioned (that I recall) that there was the possibility that 1 in 5 coins would not be available for exchange.

I could have forgiven maybe 2-3% of coins to make up for lost wallets etc, but 20% is an enormous number. This is what SHOULD have been communicated and the pools SHOULD have been shut down OR the block reward changed to ZERO to prevent this. There were plenty of ways this could have been prevented.

...but surely most people would agree that the constant updates and same repeated question throughout the thread over and over would of maybe been enough to realise what was actually happening?

[SwedishGirl]

CAIx going up and up, does anybody know something that we don't?

[quarkkid]

CAIx going up and up, does anybody know something that we don't?

lol really?....read the first page of the thread 

[SnjafSnjaf]

TheStuhlman can't force pools to close operations. Stop blaming everybody else and take a long look in the mirror. It's your fault and nobody else's and there was nothing misleading in the announcement. Learn to take responsibility for your own action or inaction.

Really?? - Stuhlmans nitro pools could have closed for starters (Which he IS responsible for!)

I certainly can't keep track of the announcements 24 hours a day, and it wasn't clear that there WOULD be more coins mined than could be exchanged. Regardless of whether or not I managed to exchange my own coins, there is still the issue that 20% of mined coins could not be exchanged. This is not the fault of the miners, but is the responsibility of the devs. It could have been stopped by changing block reward to 0 even if the pools did not shut down. No matter what happened to me - there would always be a huge percentage of miners lose out because of the overmining - WHICH COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY THE DEVS!

Dude just quit whining, you had 3 days to swap coins and join the train. Also they told that supply will be shorter... Everything was there you just had to read and be active to do all of that...

[SwedishGirl]

Ah, so many boys whining like little girls...

[ipsec]

Dude just quit whining, you had 3 days to swap coins and join the train. Also they told that supply will be shorter... Everything was there you just had to read and be active to do all of that...

Can you tell me what I can do with CAI the stock market.?

[maxsinner]

Dude just quit whining, you had 3 days to swap coins and join the train. Also they told that supply will be shorter... Everything was there you just had to read and be active to do all of that...

Can you tell me what I can do with CAI the stock market.?

Fork the coin and take over Caishen development, then you can mine as much as you want. There will be a huge community of whiners following you.

[Rabbit80]

TheStuhlman can't force pools to close operations. Stop blaming everybody else and take a long look in the mirror. It's your fault and nobody else's and there was nothing misleading in the announcement. Learn to take responsibility for your own action or inaction.

Really?? - Stuhlmans nitro pools could have closed for starters (Which he IS responsible for!)

I certainly can't keep track of the announcements 24 hours a day, and it wasn't clear that there WOULD be more coins mined than could be exchanged. Regardless of whether or not I managed to exchange my own coins, there is still the issue that 20% of mined coins could not be exchanged. This is not the fault of the miners, but is the responsibility of the devs. It could have been stopped by changing block reward to 0 even if the pools did not shut down. No matter what happened to me - there would always be a huge percentage of miners lose out because of the overmining - WHICH COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY THE DEVS!

Dude just quit whining, you had 3 days to swap coins and join the train. Also they told that supply will be shorter... Everything was there you just had to read and be active to do all of that...

3 days where I had no access to my wallet. I am not whining - just pointing out where things went wrong due to poor planning.

[maxsinner]

TheStuhlman can't force pools to close operations. Stop blaming everybody else and take a long look in the mirror. It's your fault and nobody else's and there was nothing misleading in the announcement. Learn to take responsibility for your own action or inaction.

Really?? - Stuhlmans nitro pools could have closed for starters (Which he IS responsible for!)

I certainly can't keep track of the announcements 24 hours a day, and it wasn't clear that there WOULD be more coins mined than could be exchanged. Regardless of whether or not I managed to exchange my own coins, there is still the issue that 20% of mined coins could not be exchanged. This is not the fault of the miners, but is the responsibility of the devs. It could have been stopped by changing block reward to 0 even if the pools did not shut down. No matter what happened to me - there would always be a huge percentage of miners lose out because of the overmining - WHICH COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY THE DEVS!

Dude just quit whining, you had 3 days to swap coins and join the train. Also they told that supply will be shorter... Everything was there you just had to read and be active to do all of that...

3 days where I had no access to my wallet. I am not whining - just pointing out where things went wrong due to poor planning.

Well you can say Stuhlman planned poorly and I can say that you planned poorly. Now, who should we believe?

[TheGer]

Your excuses are fail. 

Having to read all these sob cry me a river stories make me happy you lost out.  More for me....  Thanks guys you're the best!  I'm bloated on CAIx...

TheStuhlman can't force pools to close operations. Stop blaming everybody else and take a long look in the mirror. It's your fault and nobody else's and there was nothing misleading in the announcement. Learn to take responsibility for your own action or inaction.

Really?? - Stuhlmans nitro pools could have closed for starters (Which he IS responsible for!)

I certainly can't keep track of the announcements 24 hours a day, and it wasn't clear that there WOULD be more coins mined than could be exchanged. Regardless of whether or not I managed to exchange my own coins, there is still the issue that 20% of mined coins could not be exchanged. This is not the fault of the miners, but is the responsibility of the devs. It could have been stopped by changing block reward to 0 even if the pools did not shut down. No matter what happened to me - there would always be a huge percentage of miners lose out because of the overmining - WHICH COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY THE DEVS!

[TR8888]

still nearly 100 people mining cai.. Why hasnt Nitro pool been closed?

[tcherkin]

I have about 120 CAI in my Coin-Swap.com wallet and forgot to exchange them for CAIx. Are they lost now, or there is some way to exchange? 

Thanks!