Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT!

[OgNasty]

You seemed to be happy with my work until I rejected your demand for free advertising.  

Another blatant lie. I never asked for free advertising. I told you I thought your site was worthy of a certain amount of BTC per month (before you added a manipulated metric to make yourself appear important) and asked what you would charge me. You then started making trust demands and telling lies about me on the forum when I refused.

Imagine being mad cause an inflated sales price was justified by you sending BTC for years, and you only send 1/100BTC.  That sounds a lot more reasonable.

I said I would provide 1mh/s per seat. I’m currently providing more than 2000x that. I have long overdelivered on any promises I made.

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[ibminer]

Nice to see Vod's little lacky blaming me for them spending BTC in 2015 at a lower rate...  

I'm nobody's lacky and I'm not sure why this thread has anything to do with what I posted in another thread relating to you, NastyFans, my purchase, and a newbie asking a question.

He seemed to be happy with his purchase until the BTC rate jumped.  

lol, no. I'll respond to this tomorrow, if anyone actually believes this, I can tell you my confidence in Og dropped significantly in 2016 and I don't even remember what the exchange rate was at the time. If I have to post PMs to prove this, I will, but I don't like doing it.. it's lame, but Og is resorting to doing this with me so I'm not sure I have much of a choice.

[Vod]

Another blatant lie. I never asked for free advertising. I told you I thought your site was worthy of a certain amount of BTC per month (before you added a manipulated metric to make yourself appear important) and asked what you would charge me. You then started making trust demands and telling lies about me on the forum when I refused.

You offered to exchange advertising for nastymining seats.    That is free advertising.

When I didn't go along with your demand, you started spreading lies about me.  :/

lol, no. I'll respond to this tomorrow, if anyone actually believes this, I can tell you my confidence in Og dropped significantly in 2016 and I don't even remember what the exchange rate was at the time. If I have to post PMs to prove this, I will, but I don't like doing it.. it's lame, but Og is resorting to doing this with me so I'm not sure I have much of a choice.

I doubt anyone believes this (as indicated by lack of thread interest) but maybe it's also time to start a thread compiling OG's dishonesty and scams?  His BS has nothing to do with me.

[OgNasty]

You offered to exchange advertising for nastymining seats.    That is free advertising.

Another lie. I never made you an offer of any kind for advertising.

[Vod]

Another lie. I never made you an offer of any kind for advertising.

Your standard defense - Vod is lying.   

Subject:  BPIP Sponsorship
« Sent to: Vod on: October 15, 2018, 06:11:35 PM »

How much would it cost to sponsor the site for a month?  Just curious what I'd have to pay to get a NastyFans or NastyShop link/logo on there.

[OgNasty]

Another blatant lie. I never asked for free advertising. ...asked what you would charge me. You then started making trust demands and telling lies about me on the forum when I refused.

You offered to exchange advertising for nastymining seats.    That is free advertising.

Really? Maybe read the quote you posted of mine again? You liar you.

Subject:  BPIP Sponsorship
« Sent to: Vod on: October 15, 2018, 06:11:35 PM »

How much would it cost to sponsor the site for a month?  Just curious what I'd have to pay to get a NastyFans or NastyShop link/logo on there.

That quote backs up my statements, not yours. Idiot...

I never made an offer like you claim, nor did I ask for free advertising. I inquired about sponsoring your project and you never gave an amount, you only made demands about my trust network. Just like I’ve been saying. When I refused to alter my trust network, you then started telling your lies.

This should be a warning to anyone looking to do business with Vod in the future. He is a liar and can’t be trusted. Even making an inquiry of sponsorship like I did in the above quote can result in an attack campaign of lies against you.

[suchmoon]

Vod's little lacky

If that's how you treat your customers I'd say ibminer is 100% right to be unhappy.

[Vod]

I inquired about sponsoring your project and you never gave an amount, you only made demands about my trust network. Just like I’ve been saying. When I refused to alter my trust network, you then started telling your lies.

You asked how much advertising would be, you said you didn't have a budget and offered to give me ponzi seats in exchange for advertising. 

Same story I have posted for months.  Yours keeps changing depending on what lie you are defending.

This is warning to anyone looking to do business with OGNasty in the future. He is a liar and can’t be trusted. Even buying a scam coin from him will result in an attack campaign of lies against you.

[ibminer]

Alright.. I ended up drafting a response, but, it ended up at 946 words.     I can't bring myself to post it.

When I read it, I felt like it's just going to be interpreted as me attacking Og and that's not what I want to be perceived as doing. It was my decision to invest in this coin and I've accepted that I'll never get my BTC back. I posted my comment to enlighten a new user, in a witty way, because all I can do is laugh about it at this point.. and I felt like I needed to say something, which I have a right to do.

I've been feeling like I have to defend myself because Og started making stuff up about me, calling me a liar, and making it look like I ran off with a miner he sent me (in edit#2)  (an edit he later switched out). None of this is true.

I'm going to try to summarize the remainder of my draft and hopefully not come off as attacking anyone, as that is not my intent.

My PM below is when I dropped support for NastyFans, in 2016, and when I realized I may have made a mistake with this coin because the person I thought I was dealing with was now appearing shady to me.

So your now a MoneyPot Fan? what happened to supporting your Nasty brand?  
I guess your lack of response makes a little more sense now.  Hope they are paying you well...

--snipped a long re-quote from 2 weeks prior to this message--

The re-quote I mention is when I expressed my concerns about DogeDigital (a MoneyPot owner), laid out my case against him which I had already left feedback for, and asked for his opinion. (BTW, DogeDigital's trust didn't really get much better after that )
Og never responded to me, but had frequently responded to me in the past. Nonetheless, <2 weeks later I had heard nothing back and then saw he removed his NastyFans sig and was now advertising for MoneyPot.

So I sent the message above expressing my dislike for it and re-quoting my original message, his response to this was that the money was too good of an offer to refuse.

He seemed to be happy with his purchase until the BTC rate jumped.  

Was I happy at this point in 2016?  No... but at the end of the day, the man has a right to do whatever he wants with his signature, but it wasn't the type of person I personally wanted to go out of my way to support and didn't resemble the person I thought I had been dealing with, and I didn't trust him as much as I had.

I removed my own NastyFans signature and stopped my eagerness to support NastyFans, but I also wasn't comfortable passing the puck (so to speak) to someone else, so I still have the coin today.

Public post below (it was also described this way privately btw)

Each coin has 5 NastyFans seats attached to it that earn weekly distributions to the coin's address.

"weekly distributions" quickly turned into: See for yourself: Here is my public address for NastyFans for my minted seats

My purchase on 6/20/2015: 049bcdd256b10703d9d029ab32fec06b206d15bbf96848235d6bdf4071e72fed
weekly distributions to my coin's address:

06-26-2015  0.00119760
08-07-2015  0.00126795
11-06-2015   0.00106160
01-08-2016  0.00102240
06-16-2016  0.00119575
06-19-2016   0.00162045
04-15-2017   0.00113970
11-19-2017   0.00100070
nothing in 2018 or 2019

Total current amount in "queue" (accumulated since 11-19-2017): 0.0003855

I believe I have a right to be a little perturbed as it seems like future distributions are not coming anytime soon from my perspective.

Og and his mining operation are apparently doing just fine though, in the past 2 years: solar panels, wind turbines, power wall, sponsorships, etc.

I have no clue what he has mining (I don't recall ever seeing any pictures, I'd like to see some! Most miners love showing this stuff off) and I've got no clue what he could potentially be manipulating with statistics/hashrate/distributions/etc. I've lost trust that the man is sincere, and he's further proven this to me by the lies he threw at me yesterday, which was off-putting, at best.

The whole point of the seats were to get long-term weekly BTC distributions, so I really don't want to hear the "Oh but you've gotten $100 USD out of your $400 purchase 4 years ago". If I wanted to invest $400 and get $100 back 4 years from now, I wouldn't have used this forum or BTC at all. I expected to get weekly distributions returned in BTC consistently for the long-term, as that is how it was described to me.

I never expected 4 years later to have only gotten ~ .01BTC in "weekly" distributions. I also never expected the limited production batch of 100 coins would still be available 4 years later. The distributions were about the same in 2015 as they were towards the end of 2017, and seemed to have grinded to a halt now.

It is what it is. Like I said, I've had to accept my losses, but I am still justified to post what I posted. Hopefully I've helped someone avoid my mistakes.

[OgNasty]

Same tired lies...

No offer of seats or shares was ever made to Vod. I inquired as the quote in my previous post showed, he made trust demands, then started his lies when I refused.

Distributions continue at a rate of hundreds of dollars per month currently (about what I raised with the initial offering) and I continue to far exceed any reasonable expectations for donations from mining operations to NastyFans. The solar panels were paid for out of my own pocket and the battery backup was donated to me by someone who liked what I was doing. Why would this anger you? You attack anything I or others do to help the project.

The facts are...

I made a cool product and ibminer wanted to buy it from me so I sold it to him.

I continue donating hundreds of dollars a month in hashrate and have for nearly a decade now to be distributed to said product.

ibminer started working on a project and I offered to sponsor it.

ibminer’s team made demands about my trust network and I refused.

ibminer’s team tells lies about what happened.

ibminer complains I’m not giving enough money to him in the form of donations.

You can check the donation address on the blockchain or any pending BTC at nastyfans.org/mint.json . The idea no donations have been made since 2017 is ridiculous. If you don’t like the way nonnakip distributes coins held under the threshold, you should discuss that with him. I don’t run NastyFans and don’t control the distributions. I only donate hashrate and coins as always.

1NastyFRkeUTmMdbMmzggDVTQA6r3ibUoX - Imagine complaining about someone who just donated $400 to your coin's project and has donated hundreds of BTC over the years.

[suchmoon]

Same tired lies...

Did ibminer steal a miner from you? I do some business with him so I need to know if he's a thief. I'd say it's your obligation to the community to disclose the theft with flags and whatnot.

Edit: ibminer, weren't you the guy who offered to host a miner on our behalf and then when I sent it to you we never saw it again?

[OgNasty]

Same tired lies...

Did ibminer steal a miner from you? I do some business with him so I need to know if he's a thief. I'd say it's your obligation to the community to disclose the theft with flags and whatnot.

Thanks for letting me know my obligation to the community.  If you suspect ibminer of being a thief, you should make a separate thread to discuss it.

If I wanted to invest $400 and get $100 back 4 years from now, I wouldn't have used this forum or BTC at all. I expected to get weekly distributions returned in BTC consistently for the long-term, as that is how it was described to me.

This really says it all.  I continue sending BTC at a rate of more than 2000x the hashrate I promised.  This has resulted in you already getting back 25% of your initial investment within 4 years while maintaining the purchased asset.  You are unhappy with this return.  This of course doesn't include the value of the silver or the fact the organization is now sitting on 6 figures worth of savings for future operations.  An amazing return by any reasonable expectations.  Especially with how well set it is to continue for the long-term as you say is important to you.  You complain about not getting weekly distributions...  Holding back BTC distributions under a certain threshold wasn't a change I made.  It was made by the President of NastyFans, nonnakip.  He did this to keep "dust" from building up weekly at the addresses.  It is a feature that helps your long-term savings that most people are appreciative and grateful for.  You seem to use it as a way to complain, so perhaps you should direct your complaint in the right direction.  I know you want to blame me for everything, but the fact is that I'm a guy who continues to go above and beyond for the projects I support, and I tried to support your project, but you and Vod turned out to be total manipulative liars engaging in the regular lie and deflect tactic while the trolls circle.

The fact you ibminer are still mad about a signature I wore for a month, 3 years ago, when I removed it as soon as I could speaks volumes about the level of control you think you can exert over others.  You and Vod are a perfect pair.

Anybody want to get back on topic about Vod's lies or are we just going to pretend he isn't continuing to claim I made him an offer of seats/shares for advertising while trolls take the opportunity to abuse the merit system?

[suchmoon]

Same tired lies...

Did ibminer steal a miner from you? I do some business with him so I need to know if he's a thief. I'd say it's your obligation to the community to disclose the theft with flags and whatnot.

Thanks for letting me know my obligation to the community.  If you suspect ibminer of being a thief, you should make a separate thread to discuss it.

You brought ibminer into this thread on the grounds of him working with Vod. I work with both of them so I think I have a good reason to ask you IN THIS THREAD, is this true or not:

Edit: ibminer, weren't you the guy who offered to host a miner on our behalf and then when I sent it to you we never saw it again?

Stop weaseling out, stand by your words or admit that you lied.

[marlboroza]

Thanks for letting me know my obligation to the community.  If you suspect ibminer of being a thief, you should make a separate thread to discuss it.

Wait, you said ibminer is a thief and you want suchmoon to create thread about it? It is not how it works, your words so bring some proofs.

Edit: ibminer, weren't you the guy who offered to host a miner on our behalf and then when I sent it to you we never saw it again?

Did ibminer scam you?

[Vod]

OG is a habitual liar, so I just wanted to clear up that he did offer me seats in exchange for advertising.

According to this liar, both IB and I have made demands on his trust system.  Yet he provides no proof - he keeps repeating the only thing he can - they are lying.

The fact he called IB a thief and then later deleted it when asked for proof, shows the kind of tactics this scammer uses.  :/

[OgNasty]

OG is a habitual liar, so I just wanted to clear up that he did offer me seats in exchange for advertising.

According to this liar, both IB and I have made demands on his trust system.  Yet he provides no proof - he keeps repeating the only thing he can - they are lying.

I did not offer you seats for anything.  You are a liar.  No amount of time or claims by trolls will change that fact.

Are you really going to now switch your story and claim you didn't ask me to remove trust for Quickseller and Anduck?  You were complaining about it for over a year to me publicly on the forum and in PM.  If not, then why were you sending me messages like the ones below?  Why would I care about the content of these messages?  What reason did you have for spamming me with such nonsense?

Is your real life identity known?

I have a lot more to lose than you do by exposing someone.

EXAMPLE:  
https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255

Quickseller publically announced that he believed Martin Lawrence was a pedophile.

If he really believed that, why didn't he call the Edmonton police? 

Anyway, nothing against you.  The mark is to negate trust left To Anduck and Quickseller.

I have now updated my trust list to include all 41 profiles that trust Quickseller.

Be real.  You got mad that some users called you names and you tried to force everyone to help you enact revenge.  When I refused, you began attacking me with whatever lies you could string together.  The honest members of the community responded by distrusting you, or outright leaving you negative trust, but you still continue your lies.  Now you're flocking together with the other trolls to try and spread misinformation and blur the facts.  ibminer and suchmoon have both been critical of me, should I dox them with ridiculous claims about their character and then troll them with lies for years?  Your behavior has been pathetic since my first interaction with you Vod.  Grow up.  You act like a child, and that's not meant to be a compliment.

I have more quotes, something around a dozen where you mention Quickseller and Anduck.  It's pretty fucked up that someone calls Vod a pedophile, so he responds by unleashing a campaign calling me a tax evader, all because I refused to leave someone negative trust I've had multiple flawless trades with.  This is what's wrong with the current trust network, and merit sources instigating this behavior should be ashamed of themselves.  If you can't see through this clear cut case of lies your judgement has to be questioned.

[suchmoon]

ibminer and suchmoon have both been critical of me, should I dox them with ridiculous claims about their character and then troll them with lies for years?

Well, you're already doing that, at least towards ibminer who dared to speak humorously about your club or whatever it is. You still haven't acknowledged the alleged theft, so I assume you lied about that too. Pathetic.

I don't recall if you lied about me yet but I'm sure that's coming.

[Quickseller]

Vod is petty who holds a grudge, and is willing to use his position to coerce others into doing what he wants that advances his 'getting back' at someone. 

[Vod]

I have more quotes, something around a dozen where you mention Quickseller and Anduck. 

You can make up as many quotes as you want - just write what you want and make the quote look real.  Hope no one clicks on the link.  No one would think any less of you at this point. 

I know you are upset you offered me seats, but you did.  I'm sure you didn't plan your ponzi to run dry so quickly either.

Call everyone a liar - call everyone a thief.  You know it's only a matter of time until your tax situation becomes public knowledge, then you are finished on here.  Not finished for not paying taxes - I have a feeling this community doesn't find that wrong - but finished for lying about it and continuing to lie about it even after you were audited.  :/

And then you started calling your supportive customers thieves... 

[OgNasty]

You can make up as many quotes as you want - just write what you want and make the quote look real.  Hope no one clicks on the link.  No one would think any less of you at this point. 

I know you are upset you offered me seats, but you did.  I'm sure you didn't plan your ponzi to run dry so quickly either.

Call everyone a liar - call everyone a thief.  You know it's only a matter of time until your tax situation becomes public knowledge, then you are finished on here.  Not finished for not paying taxes - I have a feeling this community doesn't find that wrong - but finished for lying about it and continuing to lie about it even after you were audited.  :/

The quotes I posted from you are real.

I never offered you any seats.

I have never been audited.