Vod is an extortionist. Get him out of DT!

[Vod]

Your behavior also makes it very simple to point out what a liar you are using the truth as I will continue to do.    

How many more dozens of pages will you need to show this?  Kind of like the FE thread; you repeat your nonsense conclusions and skip over any facts.

I showed the community you were a thief, and I moved on.  

[OgNasty]

Your behavior also makes it very simple to point out what a liar you are using the truth as I will continue to do.    

How many more dozens of pages will you need to show this?

You haven’t stopped your trust abuse or lying about me, so you’re the only one who can answer that question. Although I am widening my focus to those who support your behavior in hopes they begin to hold you accountable as well. We’ll see how that angle progresses.

[Vod]

Although I am widening my focus to those who support your behavior in hopes they begin to hold you accountable as well. We’ll see how that angle progresses.

Does that mean everyone who supports you backs your theft and scamming?  Of course not - so I won't be asking your supporters to hold you accountable.  Their trust list is their own.

If you were honest about your finances, it would explain why you spend a "widening" amount of time on this forum.   Right now you look petty and vindictive - I exposed scams and now you will spend eternity chasing me.   If you were actually rich, you would be enjoying life and not spending hours extorting other users here.

[OgNasty]

If you were actually rich, you would be enjoying life and not spending hours extorting other users here.

I don’t claim to be rich and you’re the one who wanted to “negotiate a settlement” remember? I claim to have donated a lot of money to charities and community organizations, which I have and continue to do so. As long as you continue lying about me, I’ll be here to shed light on it. It really doesn’t take much effort. I have the time and am here making trades anyway. I could put in a lot more effort to show what kind of person you are and I assume that’s the path you’re choosing to send me down, so I’ll play along. Sure, I’d rather you just stopped being a dickhead and admitted you’re a liar, but you couldn’t even admit I never offered you anything to sponsor your site in spite of causing all this drama and giving yourself a stroke, so my faith in your ability to do the right thing flew out the window long ago.

You forgot to include my link which set off your recent emotional responses, so here it is again for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54049724#msg54049724

[Vod]

I claim to have donated a lot of money to charities and community organizations, which I have and continue to do so.

You've donated coins that belonged to other people. 

Just like you entered an airdrop with the 500btc you were holding for the forum.

Just like creative financing made community supporters pay for your solar panels.

You're nothing more than a con man.

And on that note, you've taken up your quota of my time for today.   

[OgNasty]

I don’t claim to be rich and you’re the one who wanted to “negotiate a settlement” remember?  I claim to have donated a lot of money to charities and community organizations, which I have and continue to do so.

You've donated coins that belonged to other people.  

Just like you entered an airdrop with the 500btc you were holding for the forum.

Just like creative financing made community supporters pay for your solar panels.

You're nothing more than a con man.

And on that note, you've taken up your quota of my time for today.  

All lies. Every one.

I never stole coins to donate and all coins can be traced back to legitimate means using the blockchain. If I had stolen anything to donate, there would be a clear record of it as NastyFans is a 100% transparent organization.

As a forum treasurer it was my fiduciary duty to claim all altcoins relating to the address I controlled. When theymos asked for the funds to be returned he specifically asked for certain alts and gifted me the ones he didn’t ask for. I thanked him for his generosity.

I paid for my solar panels with my own funds. Nobody lended me anything. There was no financing, creative or otherwise. I didn’t use NastyMining funds or anything donated to NastyFans. I used money in my bank account.

You keep trying to paint me as some sort of rich elite con-man for using my own money to make my mining efforts sustainable as well as donate 100% of my mining rewards to a community organization. It’s weird and you are so wrong that people should question your judgement and agree with the premise of this thread, you are a liar.


Update: It took Vod less than 15 minutes of him saying he was done giving me his time today before he posted on and locked a thread filled with lies about me. Literally everything he says is a lie.

[NeuroticFish]

I think his quest to cleanse the trust system stops when his personal interests are at stake.  :/

I'm not worried. I prefer to see too much trust rating than too few. I'll surely read and decide when needed. I go by the rule that everybody can make mistakes (intended or not) so I'll have to use my judgement as final.

That's like finding commond ground, I like it

I was expecting this reaction! 

[dragonvslinux]

I'm thought we'd all learnt that creating trust-based "cults" wasn't a good idea? I trust you, cos you gave coin back to forum, but this makes me question you.

"Listen to all, follow none."  You are right to not blindly follow my list, and should evaluate every entry on your own if possible.  I have put a great deal of effort into assembling my list, and wanted to share my efforts with those who may not have the time, or length of experience on this forum to feel confident with assembling their own lists from scratch.

Circling back to the trust cult concerns, how about you add the above to the post below? Or a reference to this topic to help users assemble their trust lists?

Here's the list of DT members who support Vod's trust abuse with inclusions in their trust network.  I've added ~'s in front of their usernames so they can easily be copied/pasted into your trust settings in order to exclude their networks.  You can do this by clicking THIS LINK, pasting the below list into your Trust List, then clicking update.

I think it'd help a lot to take the trust cult stigma out of the equation, if indeed you don't want people to blindly copy & paste your trust list.

[OgNasty]

Like I said, “Listen to all, follow none.” If you don’t want to discuss Vod being a liar, make your own thread to complain about me.

Update: A known scammer and alt account user trying to derail the thread while sending me private messages until I block them. Say it ain’t so.

Make sure to check out the post that has this scammer so desperately vying for my attention.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54049724#msg54049724

[dragonvslinux]

If you don’t want to discuss Vod being a liar, make your own thread to complain about me.

No, I'm not interested, I already distrust him so it bores me to read this crap. If you want to continue promoting your cult-based trust list here, you are the one who needs to open a new thread.  Suggested title "[The Cult of OgNasty] My Trust List" - this would be the defacto standard at least. Otherwise, deal with the replies to what you post here.

I'm thought we'd all learnt that creating trust-based "cults" wasn't a good idea? I trust you, cos you gave coin back to forum, but this makes me question you.

"Listen to all, follow none."  You are right to not blindly follow my list, and should evaluate every entry on your own if possible.  I have put a great deal of effort into assembling my list, and wanted to share my efforts with those who may not have the time, or length of experience on this forum to feel confident with assembling their own lists from scratch.

Circling back to the trust cult concerns, how about you add the above to the post below? Or a reference to this topic to help users assemble their trust lists?

Here's the list of DT members who support Vod's trust abuse with inclusions in their trust network.  I've added ~'s in front of their usernames so they can easily be copied/pasted into your trust settings in order to exclude their networks.  You can do this by clicking THIS LINK, pasting the below list into your Trust List, then clicking update.

I think it'd help a lot to take the trust cult stigma out of the equation, if indeed you don't want people to blindly copy & paste your trust list.

[dragonvslinux]

Or just neg me in retaliation for my accurate neutral trust left against you (as someone who previously trusted your judgement)  

OgNasty   2020-03-19   Reference   OG published his trust list in a manner to "easily be copied/pasted into your trust settings" in order to target a specific user, instead of doing so in an appropriate thread (5096204.0) in a respectable manner. I strongly advise against doing this, see topic: 5102296.0. I still trust this user's judgement for now, but his "cultish" trust-based behavior raises serious questions. Doesn't appear to understand the problem with this either, despite those who trust him raising such concerns.

I'm glad you did that, you confirmed the doubts I had about your judgement. You don't intimate me OG, despite your pathetic threats via PM. ~OgNasty
You're welcome to go the way of Lauda and Mosprognoz, I encourage it even, as people don't agree with that opinion.

I prefer to hand out spades to anyone wanting to dig their own holes

Ever feel like your digging yourself a hole?

PS - Could you update your cultish distrust list to include me now? Thanks!


Edit:

Update: A known scammer and alt account user trying to derail the thread while sending me private messages until I block them. Say it ain’t so.

For reference; I sent him 1 PM subject "if he wanted to talk" - saying that'd I'd amend or remove my neutral trust if he appropriately edited his trust-cult post.
OG has now sent me a second PM, which I have no interest in replying to. My work here is done  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54049724#msg54049724

Think you missed one off your distrust list, needs updating

[LoyceV]

Or just neg me in retaliation for my accurate neutral trust left against you (as someone who previously trusted your judgement)  

OgNasty used the same Reference as Lauda did 5 months ago. That's disappointing, the topic has 120 pages and 2383 posts by now.
If you call someone a "Known scammer", please use a reference link that points directly to the evidence. You can't expect people to review half a book first.

Now it looks like retaliation indeed.

Be the bigger man!
With great power comes great responsibility (source unknown). Especially when you're on DefaultTrust (or if you want to be on DefaultTrust in the future), you shouldn't (ab)use that power by leaving (negative) feedback when someone does something you don't like. Your Sent feedback is what others use to judge your judgement.
If someone on the internet is mean to you: boo fucking hoo! Use the Ignore button, and forget about them.

[OgNasty]

Now it looks like retaliation indeed.

I don’t typically go looking for scammers, but when they get my attention I don’t mind adding them to my network as such. I reviewed a great deal of that thread and other references as I advised others to do as well. Being a long thread isn’t an excuse for a thread being invalid, although I guess with that logic I can see why people are convoluting this thread. I hadn’t seen the thread or noticed this user before now, or I would have tagged them already. I get that I’ve been vocal recently about constantly making threads with statistical analysis on this forum being merit whorish and not a contribution to Bitcoin, but I won’t go as far as saying your involvement in this thread is retaliation for it. Perhaps you should do the same. Sad to see you join in to derail this thread which exists to discuss Vod’s constant lies. I honesty expected more from you.

[sbogovac]

Just about when you think you have seen it all (in this topic)...

[OgNasty] honesty expected more from [LoyceV].

[dragonvsandroid]

Now it looks like retaliation indeed.

Sad to see you join in to derail this thread which exists to discuss Vod’s constant lies. I honesty expected more from you.

(Still doesn't realise he derailed the thread by posting a trust cult list here)
 

[LoyceV]

I don’t typically go looking for scammers, but when they get my attention I don’t mind adding them to my network as such. I reviewed a great deal of that thread and other references as I advised others to do as well.

My suggestion would be to create a proper Reference thread in Reputation, where you collect all relevant Reference material for easy quick review. If it's convincing, I'll tag dragonvslinux myself.

Being a long thread isn’t an excuse for a thread being invalid

Let's see: http://loyce.club/showall/2057229.html (archived).
Dragonvslinux's first appearance in that thread was on page 103, post 2046. I guess we have different standards of presenting evidence. It now looks like this:
(source: shutterstock.com)

I get that I’ve been vocal recently about constantly making threads with statistical analysis on this forum being merit whorish and not a contribution to Bitcoin, but I won’t go as far as saying your involvement in this thread is retaliation for it.

Lol Okay, you've got me! If I'm a Merit whore, I guess I'm just very, very good at it
I don't really get how that has anything to be with posting in this thread though.

Sad to see you join in to derail this thread which exists to discuss Vod’s constant lies.

I had removed this topic from my Watchlist, until you dragged me in again. That post made this thread about more than just "Vod is a liar.".

I honesty expected more from you.

I'd appologize, but then I realized as a Thick-Skinned Gang Leader, I don't care.
I'm not here to meet expectiations in forum drama. I post what I believe is right.

[marlboroza]

I'd love nothing more than for you to stop commenting about me, which for years you have been unable to do.  

"for years"  

Just wow, OG is now telling everyone fairy tails how I can't stop commenting him for years (2 times on previous page).

Maybe you should share some of my "comments about you" as well. Don't just manipulate other people's opinions like that, rather say "I just don't like when marlboroza corrects me"
Speaking of (I deliberately cherrypicked this):

Just like you entered an airdrop with the 500btc you were holding for the forum.

All lies. Every one.
[...]
As a forum treasurer it was my fiduciary duty to claim all altcoins relating to the address I controlled. When theymos asked for the funds to be returned he specifically asked for certain alts and gifted me the ones he didn’t ask for. I thanked him for his generosity.
[...]

What happened to the "dividend" from airdrops based on Bitcoin holdings?

I didn't know about that [...]

Anyway, regarding my "comments", my last post was on December 14, 2019. and I don't remember posting anything in this topic since then(it was 3 months ago), and to be honest I just can't remember when was the last time I corrected you but now you invited me here, take a look:

~marlboroza

...and I just have to correct you again (regarding airdrop, I mean)

i distrust Vod right now cos i agree and belive  Og ( too much proofs here ) and dont trust Vod

Cool story bro, small reminder:



...topic is full of personal messages, please don't tag Og for this.

[OgNasty]

I post what I believe is right.

So you have no problem with Vod’s lies, retaliation, trust abuse, and other disgusting behavior, but I tag an alt account using scammer who derails my thread and sends me PM demands and you take issue because the thread I referenced is too long when many other references are also available? Then you elongate this thread to try and bury evidence using your same logic that long threads aren’t valid? Got it. You don’t seem unreasonable or biased at all (sarcasm).

Hey look marlboroza couldn’t stay away from commenting about me. What a shock.  

[marlboroza]

Hey look marlboroza couldn’t stay away from commenting about me. What a shock.  

Ok, taking my own advice and putting both idiots back on ignore, until someone quotes another mental gymnastic again.

[OgNasty] honesty expected more from [LoyceV].

Let me guess....very short memory?

I am not commenting you, I am correcting you. Vod said you used forum funds to do airdrop and you said it is a lie. Maybe I am wrong, so you can correct me and I will apologize, there is no need to deflect this instead addressing something you call a lie.

Just like you entered an airdrop with the 500btc you were holding for the forum.

Is this a lie?

[OgNasty]

Just like you entered an airdrop with the 500btc you were holding for the forum.

Is this a lie?

I claimed lots of alts on behalf of the forum as it was my fiduciary duty as treasurer. I have already stated this. There was never any request from theymos to document each alt and he asked for certain ones while gifting me the remainder. I think had he discussed the issue with me before commenting or had we been in more regular communication, he would have responded differently. I certainly did nothing wrong, as theymos himself stated. There was already a thread about this, so why continue to derail this one? You cannot stop commenting about me or some other ulterior motive? Sure doesn’t seem like you put me on ignore. Was that another lie?

Take notice of all the users continuing to try and bury massive amounts of evidence against Vod in this thread and refusing to stay on topic. This is exactly the behavior I wish to highlight and they’re doing an excellent job showing themselves.