Vod is an extortionist. Get him out of DT!

[OgNasty]

From day one, I have been trying to save this community from scammers like OG.

Another lie. I have never scammed anyone. You cannot come up with one victim. A few whiners that are unhappy I only donate around $400-$500 a month to community organizations and blame me for them not getting rich due to spending their BTC buying my innovative goods before the price boom are the best you can do. Absolutely disgusting behavior from a well known liar. Imagine if you raised $400 from the community, gave back millions worth of BTC, continue to donate hundreds of dollars every month, built a $100,000 reserve for that organization and then got called a scammer for doing so. These people who say negative things about NastyFans are at best complete morons, and at worst enemies to the community who attack any successful project they can out of jealousy. You’ve said it yourself Vod, my goal is to donate my funds regularly to the community as long as I live, while your stated goal is to get the community to pay for your retirement. That’s the difference between us.

[JaredKaragen]

From day one, I have been trying to save this community from scammers like OG.

Vod;  this is now the n'th time I have heard you accuse someone of scamming.  (Ironically in the exact same manner you accuse TECSHARE)

Show me direct actual proof that OG directly mislead, scammed and stole from someone.


We are STILL waiting.

*edit* notice the reply below mine completely avoids owning up.... yet again.     The silence is deafening.

[Vod]

From day one, I have been trying to save this community from scammers like OG.

Another lie. I have never scammed anyone. You cannot come up with one victim.

Another lie.  You kept the coin pirate sent you.  I don't have your ledger so I cannot name a victim. 

This was after you posted how pirate was giving you extra interest, and before you stated you knew it was a ponzi.

[OgNasty]

Another lie.  You kept the coin pirate sent you.  I don't have your ledger so I cannot name a victim. 

This was after you posted how pirate was giving you extra interest, and before you stated you knew it was a ponzi.

You can’t name a victim because there isn’t one...

I didn’t know pirate and had no special treatment or knowledge of what he was doing. I lost my funds alongside everyone else.

All this time you’ve spent harassing me on and outside these forums, spreading lies and trying to damage community projects I donate to, yet you can’t name a single victim when asked to present one. You belong nowhere near the trust system.

[Vod]

You can’t name a victim because there isn’t one...

I can't name a victim because I don't have your ponzi records.

Ididn’t know pirate and had no special treatment or knowledge of what he was doing. I lost my funds alongside everyone else.

So why did you post he was giving you extra interest to help people into the scam?

Why did you then post you knew it was a scam?

And why are you lying when you kept the coin pirate sent you to refund users?

[peloso]

I can't name a victim because I don't have your ponzi records.

you can't, you can't, you can't

so you still blame OG but you can't nothing
no proofs no arguments
and you continue just trolling

so we know what you can't
can you say  what you CAN?

[marlboroza]

You can’t name a victim because there isn’t one...

I didn’t know pirate and had no special treatment or knowledge of what he was doing. I lost my funds alongside everyone else.

Did you invest your funds in ponzi scheme or did you lose interest you received from funds which other users invested in you to invested in ponzi?

I didn’t know pirate and had no special treatment or knowledge of what he was doing.

Og didn't know. ekhem...

Vod please stop accusing lying that Ognasty knew it was a ponzi, he didn't know...

[OgNasty]

So why did you post he was giving you extra interest to help people into the scam?

Why did you then post you knew it was a scam?

And why are you lying when you kept the coin pirate sent you to refund users?

I received the exact same service as everyone else and lost my own personally deposited funds alongside everyone else. There was nothing special about my relationship with pirate whatsoever.

It’s easy to say it was a scam in hindsight. The guy was offering 1% per day. My suspecting it was too good to be true and listening to his public warnings not to trust him is why I offered to insure deposits so users wouldn’t receive a total loss.

I’m not lying about anything. Users received every satoshi they should have from me. That is the reason you can’t find these made up victims you talk about. They don’t exist. All communication with pirate was reviewed by investigators far more competent than you and guilty parties were charged while I was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Again, all these hundreds of hours of trying to demonize me and say I’m a scammer, yet you can’t find a single victim of my near decade long career here of providing goods and services. This is why even the Administrator of this site has you on his distrust list. You are a liar.

I can't name a victim

you can't, you can't, you can't

so you still blame OG but you can't nothing
no proofs no arguments
and you continue just trolling

It is obvious he is trolling with his lies. You have to wonder at what point he will be banned here for being a troll.

[Vod]

It is obvious he is trolling with his lies. You have to wonder at what point he will be banned here for being a troll.

What's this?  I would be banned for trying to get you to return stolen coins?

You were a ponzi pass through promoter.  Pirate gave you extra interest to try and scam this community.   Or at least that's what you claim...

Edit:   Added discussion thread link, where OG claims he thought Pirate was dishonest.  Then OG took a small piece of every deposit and put it into a penny fund, calling it insurance.

When pirate got busted, OG kept the coins and paid out his penny fund.  Then he claims "Everyone got some money back and everyone is happy."  Meanwhile, OG uses your funds to buy a Tesla truck.  :/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4464504

[peloso]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153

this link to Tman's topik
Tman is stupid liar and asshole and his words is nothing
its realy your proof?
vod you are liar

[Vod]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834153

this link to Tman's topik
Tman is stupid liar and asshole and his words is nothing
its realy your proof?
vod you are liar

So TMAN made up the screenshot where OG calls Anduck a goat fucker?  Nope - don't think so. 

[JaredKaragen]

I can prove Vod is accusing OG of stealing.  
(his accusations are there, seen in black and white clear as day)

Vod has yet to prove OG stole, he can only base his judgments on assumptions as far as I can tell.  
(I.E. vod is making accusations, but not proving them true with facts; only assumptions as far as i can tell after reviewing the reference materials given).


My only logical conclusion at this point is that Vod has a problem with performing a logical deduction without assumption.



Tell me where I have missed a step in this factual analysis of the present situation??   If it's Vod that answers, it should first address this, before addressing the above as you should take issues in order:

From day one, I have been trying to save this community from scammers like OG.

Vod;  this is now the n'th time I have heard you accuse someone of scamming.  (Ironically in the exact same manner you accuse TECSHARE)

Show me direct actual proof that OG directly mislead, scammed and stole from someone.


We are STILL waiting.

*edit* notice the reply below mine completely avoids owning up.... yet again.     The silence is deafening.

There are several threads with very specific thread-subject solving questions that Vod keeps ignoring.   

[OgNasty]

It is obvious he is trolling with his lies. You have to wonder at what point he will be banned here for being a troll.

What's this?  I would be banned for trying to get you to return stolen coins?

You were a ponzi pass through promoter.  Pirate gave you extra interest to try and scam this community.   Or at least that's what you claim...

Edit:   Added discussion thread link, where OG claims he thought Pirate was dishonest.  Then OG took a small piece of every deposit and put it into a penny fund, calling it insurance.

When pirate got busted, OG kept the coins and paid out his penny fund.  Then he claims "Everyone got some money back and everyone is happy."  Meanwhile, OG uses your funds to buy a Tesla truck.  :/

I stole no coins, obviously, or there would be a victim.  You continuing to spread these lies is obvious trolling, and I'm sure it has to do with you being distrusted by bitcointalk Administration.

I didn't promote a ponzi, I insured against losses from it.

Pirate gave me no extra interest, I was a regular depositor like everyone else.

Obviously I thought there was a chance pirate was dishonest, he stated publicly not to trust him, which is why I offered insurance to protect users.

I didn't take a small part of every deposit and put it into a fund.  I deposited the full amount given to me by users.  This is a fantasy you just made up.

When pirate disappeared I did pay out the insurance claims, but by that point nearly everyone had left my program to deposit directly with pirate, leaving my insurance fund to cover far more of the remaining balances than expected and leaving users ecstatic as they had been also receiving interest for months.  Hence, no victims.

I'm not using anyone else's funds to buy a Tesla truck.  That is nothing more than your jealousy and imagination at work.

[Vod]

You ran your own little ponzi, offering an extra 2% to anyone who would leave 500 btc with you.   And this is while you knew it wasn't a legit biz.  When pirate sent you the coins you kept them, and paid out your ponzi with the penny fund.

Now you are using the communities money to buy a Tesla truck.  It's quite clear.

Edited to include the post where OG started his own ponzi, before he says I'm lying again.  

LOYALTY REWARDS PROGRAM:

In order to reward larger depositors, I am introducing a Loyalty Rewards Program.  Effective immediately, depositors with at least 250 BTC in deposits will automatically be enrolled into the program.  For each completed interest rate period, depositors with 250+ BTC in deposits will be rewarded with a 1% interest rate increase per month.  Depositors with 500+ BTC in deposits will be rewarded with a 2% interest rate increase per month.  See below example.

Example:
250+ BTC deposited in April would receive a base rate interest payment on May 1st, +1% on June 1st, +2% on August 1st, etc.
500+ BTC deposited in April would receive a base rate interest payment on May 1st, +2% on June 1st, +4% on August 1st, etc.

Depositors who fall below the 250 BTC loyalty requirement will forfeit their previously earned rewards.
Depositors who fall below the 500 BTC loyalty requirement will have their previously earned rewards cut in half.

20% maximum monthly interest rate applies.

UPDATE:
Accounts holding 250+ BTC will now receive a flat 2% interest rate reward.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75843.msg854449#msg854449

[hacker1001101001]

You ran your own little ponzi, offering an extra 2% to anyone who would leave 500 btc with you.   And this is while you knew it wasn't a legit biz.  When pirate sent you the coins you kept them, and paid out your ponzi with the penny fund.

Now you are using the communities money to buy a Tesla truck.  It's quite clear.

Edited to include the post where OG started his own ponzi, before he says I'm lying again.  

LOYALTY REWARDS PROGRAM:

In order to reward larger depositors, I am introducing a Loyalty Rewards Program.  Effective immediately, depositors with at least 250 BTC in deposits will automatically be enrolled into the program.  For each completed interest rate period, depositors with 250+ BTC in deposits will be rewarded with a 1% interest rate increase per month.  Depositors with 500+ BTC in deposits will be rewarded with a 2% interest rate increase per month.  See below example.

Example:
250+ BTC deposited in April would receive a base rate interest payment on May 1st, +1% on June 1st, +2% on August 1st, etc.
500+ BTC deposited in April would receive a base rate interest payment on May 1st, +2% on June 1st, +4% on August 1st, etc.

Depositors who fall below the 250 BTC loyalty requirement will forfeit their previously earned rewards.
Depositors who fall below the 500 BTC loyalty requirement will have their previously earned rewards cut in half.

20% maximum monthly interest rate applies.

UPDATE:
Accounts holding 250+ BTC will now receive a flat 2% interest rate reward.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75843.msg854449#msg854449

All of this was 6 years ago with no victim's as investors. What an childish bullshit ! I can't imagine theymos is still letting this deception in.

[Vod]

All of this was 6 years ago with no victim's as investors. What an childish bullshit ! I can't imagine theymos is still letting this deception in.

Three Legendary members were marked as scammers when OG refused to pay back what pirate returned.

6 mins ago or 6 years ago.  It still shows OG is fundamentally dishonest.  

It's important to me that people know what type of scammer he is, because he keeps posting lies about me to stop my project from launching.   A project which will make him obsolete, btw.

[OgNasty]

You ran your own little ponzi, offering an extra 2% to anyone who would leave 500 btc with you.   And this is while you knew it wasn't a legit biz.  When pirate sent you the coins you kept them, and paid out your ponzi with the penny fund.

Now you are using the communities money to buy a Tesla truck.  It's quite clear.

Ridiculous.  You claim everything I do is a ponzi.  I don't think you know what that means. I offered a larger interest rate to larger depositors because they were risking more funds and generating more returns for the insurance fund.  I knew exactly what everyone else knew, obviously, or I wouldn't have had my own funds deposited. 

Now saying I'm using community funds to buy a Tesla truck that won't even be available for another 2 years...  You just make up lies and then repeat them over and over again.  You couldn't even secure a website that was nothing more than a set of tables.  Not to mention you've stated you are trying to flee your country and in failing health.  You really think you should be handling people's funds?  Talk about poor judgment...

You are the one starting a project with the sole goal of using community money to fund your retirement.

All of this was 6 years ago with no victim's as investors. What an childish bullshit ! I can't imagine theymos is still letting this deception in.

I have no idea why theymos hasn't banned Vod yet.  It is quite clear he is a liar and a troll.  Many people have been banned for less.

[Vod]

I have no idea why theymos hasn't banned Vod yet.  It is quite clear he is a liar and a troll.  Many people have been banned for less.

Probably because I haven't stolen from the community like you.  

Do you think people still believe what you post?

[OgNasty]

Do you think people still believe what you post?

Judging from my trust score, yes.  Anyone interested in the truth anyway... 

[Vod]

Do you think people still believe what you post?

Judging from my trust score, yes.  Anyone interested in the truth anyway...  

Ok, where did I say I was using this community to fund my retirement?

That's right - it's just a story you post over and over.  

You've abused your trust over the years, leaving positive trust when people used you as an escrow.   What did you trust them with OG?  It's no wonder they trusted you back, even though you stole from the community.

I offered a larger interest rate to larger depositors because they were risking more funds and generating more returns for the insurance fund.  I knew exactly what everyone else knew, obviously, or I wouldn't have had my own funds deposited.  

Is there anyone who thought Patrick Harnett & Pirate were doing honest dealings?  I certainly hope not.  Pirate came out and said not to trust him several times as well as hinting that he was engaging in illegal activity.

Which one is the Truth^TM?