Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT!

[OgNasty]

Well, a lot of members here just don't like you--including myself, which I'm sure you're aware of, and if you weren't I just told you.  That's how you talk to someone directly (on the internet at least).

A lot of members here do like OG and think of him as an helpful man with an heart of his own.

Sorry to say, but you are totally off the line here thinking that VOD is not at all wrong in sending all those PMs and threat's and in the contrary, OG is a bad actor for not ignoring what's coming at him.

Blatant school bullying is for real here.

Ya, I get a ton of support in PMs and through outside channels.  People are just afraid to speak up here because as you can see, there are malicious actors that are hell bent on gaining influence and are unable to do so by creating anything of value, so they focus on statistics and lash out at others in the hopes it makes them relevant.  Even after I ignore these completely useless users they continue to beg for my attention (see above).  Sadly, there are more trolls than developers on bitcointalk these days so this is what we have to deal with as a community.  Hopefully my 10 BTC donation to bitcointalk will lead to a block feature at some point.

Now that Vod's behavior with his latest extortion attempt is so blatantly illegal and wrong, they can only say I'm making it up to defend their continued attacks against me...  We all know I wouldn't lie about a PM (if not, put your money where your mouth is and let's bet on it) and I'm sure not even the people stating it believe that, but their combined malicious behavior towards me is so based on fantasy that all they can do to defend themselves now is deny their behavior and say I'm making it up.  Feel free to have the validity of my posted PM from Vod verified by the Administration if you want.  I won't hold my breath for those making the accusations I'm lying to ever apologize or do anything to verify their claims, because they already know they're wrong and I'm telling the truth and they try to spread mistrust anyway.  

As for people not liking me...  The opposite of love is indifference.  You should try hitting that ignore button if that's the case.  Feels more like you're obsessed with me than indifferent to be honest.

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[OgNasty]

Believe it or not… There are still DT users supporting Vod’s harassment and extortion attempt… Total failure of the default trust network.

[savetheFORUM]

Believe it or not… There are still DT users supporting Vod’s harassment and extortion attempt… Total failure of the default trust network.

Since Vod has already left the forum, can we please put an end to this endless hate? Usually when the person in question is no more (either by casualty or by choice) there is no reason to keep on the hate going.

I am not taking any sides but it makes no sense fighting against a non-existent member of the forum.

[OgNasty]

Believe it or not… There are still DT users supporting Vod’s harassment and extortion attempt… Total failure of the default trust network.

Since Vod has already left the forum, can we please put an end to this endless hate? Usually when the person in question is no more (either by casualty or by choice) there is no reason to keep on the hate going.

I am not taking any sides but it makes no sense fighting against a non-existent member of the forum.

1) Vod hasn’t stopped harassing me. Even while the police, his family, and his doctors have all advised him to do so.

2) Vod is still provably guilty of abusing the trust network and there are trash members of the DT network that are including him as a way to attack my reputation to satisfy their own weakness and emotions. This is exactly what the DT network was supposed to prevent, so it is clear that this issue needs more attention, not less.

[Vod]

1) Vod hasn’t stopped harassing me. Even while the police, his family, and his doctors have all advised him to do so.

Just reviewed this thread, with the facts I now know;  OG gave me a nice roomy place in his mind for free for so many years, and this irony of his fate will be lost on him.  He has stopped contacting my doctors and my family, thank goodness.

Due to my stroke, it took me longer to accumulate everything.  I wanted to let it go and just live my life, but OG edited a PM out context (again), sent it to Theymos for legitimacy, and now I am an extortionist.  Still, like the pedo accusations, it's only to shut me up.

We all know OG treated the 500 community bitcoin as his own.   When Theymos found out, he then treated the coins as his own, and rewarded OG for his theft.    I have all this in their own words.  Many people have gone to prison for embezzling community funds like this, and I'm glad this will be my legacy.

I was then contacted by a Homeland Security agent about Theymos, and he asked me to stop so it would not interfere with him but in my further investigation, I discovered the agency wasn't involved in any such investigation.   He is now a suspect in this large corruption scheme as well.

So of course Theymos trusts OgNasty.   Together they stole several million dollars from the community.    Let's see what he does now that he has LEGIT negative feedback from a LEGIT DT member.

Edit:  I am moving ahead with class action.  I lost 2btc here because of the corrupt administration.   If you lost any bitcoin, please contact me.

[digaran]

Yo Vod, long time no see 👀, so you pushed yourself to the limits and it finally got you by stroke, this place is stressful for delicate souls, it can break them very easily.
I might have missed a few things since I came back near the end of 2022, but as far as I know 2BTC is not considered a class action, though you might be referring to other cases that could be considered a class action, however are you a public prosecutor, or you are just trying to advocate on behalf of the community?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

<snip>but as far as I know 2BTC is not considered a class action, though you might be referring to other cases that could be considered a class action, however are you a public prosecutor, or you are just trying to advocate on behalf of the community?

I'm not trying to speak for Vod, but I think him asking for members who might have lost money somehow because of this drama (which I'll admit I never fully understood) is him trying to group said members together to form the basis for a class action lawsuit.  Not that I'm a lawyer or have much knowledge of law, mind you.

Vod, good to see you're alive!  I'm sorry this thing is still obviously eating away at you, though.  I think I'm going to have to go back and read some of these threads to figure out what the hell happened and how you lost 2BTC.  You may well have mentioned that in the past, but I'm having a hard time remembering it.  And what was this thing about Homeland Security and OgNasty contacting your doctors and family?  Is that something you wrote about before, or is my memory failing that badly?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

So of course Theymos trusts OgNasty.   Together they stole several million dollars from the community.    Let's see what he does now that he has LEGIT negative feedback from a LEGIT DT member.

First of all I am happy to know that you are alive, I hope you are healthy too.

All these days everything was against OgNasty but now you are shifting your focus on theymos too which means ultimately your goal is to harm the forum. I am not saying I am entirely happy with what happened with the money raised to create the new forum software but I will never consider something that will entirely risk the community.

Whatever you have in mind, if you really care for bitcoin and it's community, I will suggest don't do something that can create a mess in the community.

[Vod]

if you really care for bitcoin and it's community, I will suggest don't do something that can create a mess in the community.

This is not bitcoin's community.   Visit outside this forum to see actual bitcoin projects.   Need to get rid of the corruption before we can help the community.    OG can continue to scam here because Theymos permits it, against his duties as the administrator.  

And what was this thing about Homeland Security and OgNasty contacting your doctors and family?  Is that something you wrote about before, or is my memory failing that badly?

Nope, this all has happened since I left the forum, and I'm not going to comment on it.

The class action is for anyone who lost btc in this forum, regardless if you gave it to OGNasty because of his special relationship with pirate, or if you lost it in an online bitcoin scam.   This community has been under the radar for quit a while, and I know places (like stake.com and nonakip's employer) are going to be taken down by the criminal investigation that follows.

[LoyceV]

So of course Theymos trusts OgNasty. ~ Let's see what he does now that he has LEGIT negative feedback

This post is the Reference link for your negative feedback on theymos, so this seems to be the best place to reply.

Your feedback:

The community caught OGNasty stealing community coins. Theymos awarded him for this theft, and still trusts and pays him.

The "stealing" is debatable (click for details). Theymos' response:

What happened to the "dividend" from airdrops based on Bitcoin holdings?

I didn't know about that. I don't see it as a violation of the treasury agreement, but it's... a bit tacky, I guess. I suppose an analogy would be a fine-art storage company selling selfies with famous artworks.

I haven't seen theymos award OgNasty for this. I'd say he got away with it, and that's it.

Theymos does still trust OgNasty's judgement on the Trust system. But I don't see how he still pays him. Citation needed.

OgNasty went from being a single forum treasurer, to 1 of 5 treasurers sharing a multisig, to being removed as forum treasurer. After this (a year later?) the multisig was removed completely.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

if you really care for bitcoin and it's community, I will suggest don't do something that can create a mess in the community.

This is not bitcoin's community.   Visit outside this forum to see actual bitcoin projects.   Need to get rid of the corruption before we can help the community.    OG can continue to scam here because Theymos permits it, against his duties as the administrator.

It IS Bitcoin community. If you have doubt then you are welcome to get off from here. This is oldest bitcoin community till the date. And if I am not wrong then it is the most crowded crypto community too. Your problem was with OG where it seems you failed to get many people at your side. Don't turn your personal vendetta to people who has nothing to do with it. You are crying for 2BTC where the other person were trusted with 500 BTC. Do you really think your level and his level is the same?

You used to be a respectful member but your recent few posts clearly shows that you were covering yourself in a shell and now you are showing your true face.

[OgNasty]

Vod is still mad? LOL. Imagine bumping this thread after two years of inactivity…

I actually have been meaning to remove my negative trust rating for him because I just plain don’t care about him anymore at all. I removed all my other negative ratings for the same reason. People can tell whatever lies they want about me. Look at LoyceV for example, still claiming I got away with something as if I wasn’t gifted everything I got from theymos. Irrelevant people aren’t worth your time. Just ignore them and their misinformation. Know Vod is a pathetic extortionist wannabe and people like LoyceV that try to give them a platform are even more weak and pathetic.

Have your fun on this thread. I couldn’t care less.

Only reason I clicked this section of the forum was because I was told that I’m again being impersonated on Telegram, but that makes total sense now that Vod is back…

[Vod]

Look at LoyceV for example, still claiming I got away with something as if I wasn’t gifted everything I got from theymos.

Actually, LoyceV was saying Theymos did not gift you anything.... lol   "I haven't seen theymos award OgNasty for this."     Now he knows you were awarded for theft.
When did forum donations become Theymos personal funds?

Only reason I clicked this section of the forum was because I was told that I’m again being impersonated on Telegram, but that makes total sense now that Vod is back…

Why would I do anything illegal at this point or anytime in the past?   

It IS Bitcoin community.

I thought so too, but the administrator claims it is his community, along with all donated funds.    

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You are crying for 2BTC where the other person were trusted with 500 BTC. Do you really think your level and his level is the same?

You are talking here as if 2 BTC is a miserable amount. I don't know how much you have in your wallet, but you must know that even 0.02 BTC changes someone's life, you certainly don't know how much someone missed those 2 BTC and now they are crying for them. You are certainly right, it is not the same level.
Let me mention, that I have no knowledge about this case and what exactly happened with those 2btc, don't belittle someone's money, someone you don't know much about.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

You are crying for 2BTC where the other person were trusted with 500 BTC. Do you really think your level and his level is the same?

You are talking here as if 2 BTC is a miserable amount.

I did not mean it's miserable amount by any mean but when someone is questioning a person who held 500 BTC in a single wallet, the price for each were at some point $20k, the total potential value of the coins were $10,000,000 but when he was asked to close the contract he sent the entire amount back to the original owner. If that person had malicious intention, he could just disappear. We have seen many such cases for even a 4 figure but the loyalty, respect, love for the community came before anything else. Still someone is trying to question their work is pathetic. Theymos trusts him because of that 10M, theymos left a positive feedback because of that 10M.

Vod's trying to create an argument with the forked coin. When the contract was created there were no term for the forked coin. If there were any terms about it and it was mishandled not following the term then we could have an argument. It's a very simple case, the contract was about the BTC to be held and send back safely. According to the contract the BTC were sent back safely to the original owner. So, there are no scope for questioning anything else.

Vod's problem now is, he somehow wants to create a mess and bring theymos in his drama so that he can take his revenge against OgNasty using this forked coin issue. He is trying to use Theymos as his hostage, trying to hostage theymos means trying to hostage this whole community. He does not even care about this community, the consequences it could bring and everything else.

For the record, all these may sound like I am trying to protect OgNasty. No, I am not, Vod and OgNasty has their own problem and they need to sort out their own personal mess, I don't care about it at all. I am appreciating a deal which was closed successfully and the value of that deal was fucking $10M.

A special note: I am now concerned about the BPIP project. He owns this project. Can anyone tell confidently that he did not put a simple code and storing everyone browsing information including the IPs? What guarantee we have that your, mine and others who used BPIP, our browsing history are not going to be used against us?

[LoyceV]

A special note: I am now concerned about the BPIP project. He owns this project.

BPIP ownership was transfered to ibminer and suchmoon years ago.

Can anyone tell confidently that he did not put a simple code and storing everyone browsing information including the IPs?

Ibminer can probably tell you this. The default of any web server is keep access logs (for a while).

What guarantee we have that your, mine and others who used BPIP, our browsing history are not going to be used against us?

None. Use Tor if you're worried about your browsing history.

[Vod]

the total potential value of the coins were $10,000,000 but when he was asked to close the contract he sent the entire amount back to the original owner.

No, he didn't.  That is his narrative but is a scammer.   He stole some coins, did not tell anyone until he was caught and Theymos let him keep some of them, ie. rewarded him for his theft.

A special note: I am now concerned about the BPIP project. He owns this project. Can anyone tell confidently that he did not put a simple code and storing everyone browsing information including the IPs? What guarantee we have that your, mine and others who used BPIP, our browsing history are not going to be used against us?

  OK, your bias towards OG and scamming is certainly showing here.  BPIP is a very trusted website; worry about what info Theymos has on you.   

 

[examplens]

I did not mean it's miserable amount by any mean but when someone is questioning a person who held 500 BTC in a single wallet

You didn't say it was a miserable amount, but you criticize why they cry for the loss of 2BTC and compare it to a larger amount which has not been lost. Honestly, if I were to lose 2 BTC, I wouldn't be surprised if I started crying.

Vod's trying to create an argument with the forked coin. When the contract was created there were no term for the forked coin. If there were any terms about it and it was mishandled not following the term then we could have an argument. It's a very simple case, the contract was about the BTC to be held and send back safely. According to the contract the BTC were sent back safely to the original owner. So, there are no scope for questioning anything else.

Again, it sounds to me like you're throwing away other people's money lightly. Plus, maybe you even seem a little biased. I interpret it this way, if the contract does not specifically state that the fork coins belong to the escrow service, then they are the property of the original Bitcoin owner.

Honestly, if the owner of the funds is happy with the outcome, I'm ok with that. How it all ended

The major forks for the BTC previously held by OgNasty will be liquidated sometime before the end of the year. When this is done, you'll see a bunch of BTC sent to 17RTT[...]. The forkcoins for the other BTC will not be liquidated soon.

The result of the liquidation of 500 BTCs' forkcoins was:
   14.272715 from BCH
   6.818999 from BSV
   0.442951 from BTG
 = 21.534665 BTC
 
Due to having low value, other forkcoins on this 500 BTC were not transferred.

I had no desire to play the market here, so the forkcoins were sold in several transactions spread throughout November. And there was no particular reason for doing it in November as opposed to earlier or later: it was just a convenient time.

But yes, not everything was done fairly and professionally. @theymos statement about GBYTE airdrop claiming by funds holder (OgNasty):

I stand by my previous analogy:

I suppose an analogy would be a fine-art storage company selling selfies with famous artworks.

It's annoying because:
 - Not asking was unprofessional.
 - Taking a private key out of cold storage always has some amount of risk.
 - I now have to spend time on this drama.

I am now concerned about the BPIP project. He owns this project. Can anyone tell confidently that he did not put a simple code and storing everyone browsing information including the IPs? What guarantee we have that your, mine and others who used BPIP, our browsing history are not going to be used against us?

I don't know why you are worried here, do you think that Vod is so dangerous and malicious?
What exact information can BPIP collect about us that all other sites on the Internet do not? IP address, type of device, operating system, screen resolution and?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Honestly, if the owner of the funds is happy with the outcome, I'm ok with that. How it all ended

That's all that matters. But see what Vod is doing here.
He came back after long time with the same anger he had when he left but this time he is pulling theymos into it, trying to create an issue from it to feel better for himself.

I don't know why you are worried here, do you think that Vod is so dangerous and malicious?

Vod seems dangerous now. Imagine he has my IP address [He never will have unless I made any unknown careless mistake]. Through my IP address he will find my ISP. My ISP has my personal details which means he gets my home address, my personal information [My ISP is not going to give my details to a random person but if he goes though a proper channel they will pull it]. He goes to any alphabet agency and writes a made up story to harass me.

When a person can go this far that he does not care about the community which once earned him respect, gave him a platform to speak freely, perhaps made him rich by adopting into crypto, he can go against anyone to give trouble.

All those time it was between him and OG but when he is trying to associate theymos with it, he is threatening the whole bitcoin community. I don't think many will appreciate it. They may not speak up as me but I am sure many are watching the development and just waiting for the right time to speak up.

the total potential value of the coins were $10,000,000 but when he was asked to close the contract he sent the entire amount back to the original owner.

No, he didn't.  That is his narrative but is a scammer.   He stole some coins, did not tell anyone until he was caught and Theymos let him keep some of them, ie. rewarded him for his theft.

A special note: I am now concerned about the BPIP project. He owns this project. Can anyone tell confidently that he did not put a simple code and storing everyone browsing information including the IPs? What guarantee we have that your, mine and others who used BPIP, our browsing history are not going to be used against us?

  OK, your bias towards OG and scamming is certainly showing here. 
 

I had no desire to play the market here

Full stop.

BPIP is a very trusted website; worry about what info Theymos has on you.   

If LoyceV is correct which I know he is then it should be. I trust suchmoon and I believe with ibminer she will not break our trust but if it was found you are associated with it anymore or biasing in anything then there will be questions. I don't need your vouch to trust a service, you lost that credibility you had. It's better for the project if you stay away from it.

[suchmoon]

Can anyone tell confidently that he did not put a simple code and storing everyone browsing information including the IPs?

Ibminer can probably tell you this. The default of any web server is keep access logs (for a while).

I can tell you that we have webserver logs and we may see the IPs and... then what? There is no plausible way for us to associate these IPs with anything personally identifiable. We don't have logins. We don't see your Bitcointalk login. I mean with some effort in theory we could try to guess that someone repeatedly looking at LoyceV profile on BPIP might be yourself, or perhaps just a big fan of yours . And then even knowing (or assuming) that some IP belongs to some user...

My ISP is not going to give my details to a random person but if he goes though a proper channel they will pull it

It's not as easy for some random website to pull your personal details from an ISP as you're trying to imply, but you should be using VPN or Tor anyway. Don't blame websites or their owners if you're voluntarily giving your vitals away.