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July 09, 2019, 01:04:46 PM |
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The highest they will go I think 240?
Maybe more. Taylor is unpredictive. Remember how he destroyed Pakistan once? Probably in 2011 world cup, I can't remind it. He is a set batsman now and can hit bigger. We will see. By the way, the rain is now delaying the match. ~snip~
@OP missed the prediction pool will be joining next time .
Four years in the line however if I am still alive then sure, I will welcome you :-D T-20 World coming next year.as of now enjoy the rain Oh yes, also there will be champions trophy.
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July 09, 2019, 01:15:28 PM |
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Good to see the competition in the pool :-D
You never know may be someone else overtake us and win the pool. Rajavu and Cloudbet has good chance too.
I missed many matches and still i am glad to see i am still in the top of the group next time around i will make sure that i will make my prediction on time, during the initial phase of the tournament i was not aware of the margin points and then i found that people are discussing about it and then i figured out the possibility of those predicting the margins correct . India is playing really well and i am so pissed off that the rain has stopped the game right now, hopefully they will restart the match again soon and i hopefully India will win the world cup for the honor of Dhoni this time.
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Harkorede
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July 09, 2019, 01:33:57 PM |
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As far as the reserve days go, their are ones in place for the semi-finals and final. It would be a continuation and not a restart should the teams come back tomorrow to finish things off. Should the reserve day tomorrow also be washed out then the team ranked higher in the league stage will progress to the final. There are Super Overs to decide a tied semi or final. Is there any logic behind this part highlighted in Bold font ? Why the hell does the higher ranked team in the league stage advance to the final because a match gets washed out, I'm pretty sure the same would apply to final, yeah ? Indians should just keep hoping every match including reserve days get washed out.
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July 09, 2019, 01:41:54 PM |
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~snip~
Is there any logic behind this part highlighted in Bold font ? Why the hell does the higher ranked team in the league stage advance to the final because a match gets washed out, I'm pretty sure the same would apply to final, yeah ? Indians should just keep hoping every match including reserve days get washed out.
Yeah. the best team wins. This is why leading in the group stage matters and it's the same for everyone. If Aussies were the group leader then they would have this same advantage. By the way, thanks for the reference. I thought the match will start over again from the previous conversation.
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July 09, 2019, 02:13:04 PM |
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Another match being threatened by rain. Honestly, selecting this season for the World Cup is probably one of the worst decisions that ICC has taken over the years. They literally had years to plan this through.
India seemed to be in control all the way, but I don't know what will happen now. This is the first time that I have observed rain affecting such a big tournament so drastically. Lets see what happens.
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July 09, 2019, 02:20:10 PM |
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~snip~
India seemed to be in control all the way, but I don't know what will happen now. This is the first time that I have observed rain affecting such a big tournament so drastically. Lets see what happens.
Because of the rain New Zealand is going to get some advantage, if New Zealand didn't bat again in their innings, India's 20-over score would be 148. And their DLS-adjusted target for 46 overs would be 237 If it would be a regular match then Bhomra had two overs left and it would be very hard for New Zealand to score from his overs. DLS also sucks it's no where perfect in my opinion.
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July 09, 2019, 03:04:25 PM |
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~snip~
India seemed to be in control all the way, but I don't know what will happen now. This is the first time that I have observed rain affecting such a big tournament so drastically. Lets see what happens.
Because of the rain New Zealand is going to get some advantage, if New Zealand didn't bat again in their innings, India's 20-over score would be 148. And their DLS-adjusted target for 46 overs would be 237 If it would be a regular match then Bhomra had two overs left and it would be very hard for New Zealand to score from his overs. DLS also sucks it's no where perfect in my opinion. One thing is sure that NZ cannot bat now. Time is running and we are losing the overs now. DLS will come into play and India will get a stiff target ( as compare the original one if it had not been rained). NZ now have a serious chance of performing good in this match. Lets hope we do get play and result today.
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July 09, 2019, 03:08:22 PM |
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~snip~
India seemed to be in control all the way, but I don't know what will happen now. This is the first time that I have observed rain affecting such a big tournament so drastically. Lets see what happens.
Because of the rain New Zealand is going to get some advantage, if New Zealand didn't bat again in their innings, India's 20-over score would be 148. And their DLS-adjusted target for 46 overs would be 237 If it would be a regular match then Bhomra had two overs left and it would be very hard for New Zealand to score from his overs. DLS also sucks it's no where perfect in my opinion. Let's just hope the game continues, That'd be in India best interest, I'd rather the match continues from this point tomorrow than having to settle for 20 overs. 15:43 local time: Some good news coming in is that the rain has subsided a fair bit! Just a slight drizzle at the moment as the groundsmen do their thing on the field. Let's hope the rain stays away.
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July 09, 2019, 03:10:31 PM |
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One thing is sure that NZ cannot bat now. Time is running and we are losing the overs now. DLS will come into play and India will get a stiff target ( as compare the original one if it had not been rained). NZ now have a serious chance of performing good in this match. Lets hope we do get play and result today. If the adjusted target for India become 237 in 46 overs then it's a gain for New Zealand. They will get some extra runs and India is losing 4 overs on top of it. If the inning were to continue the India had to chase 237 (say kiwis were able to score in 50 overs) from 300 balls but now they will have 276 balls in hand to chase. Am I doing the correct math here?
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July 09, 2019, 03:15:53 PM |
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If it would be a regular match then Bhomra had two overs left and it would be very hard for New Zealand to score from his overs. DLS also sucks it's no where perfect in my opinion.
It is a tough spot as rain has played a major role in this tournament and if New Zealand would have played India in the league stages and if India defeated them Pakistan would have being in the semi finals instead of New Zealand and i never understood the DLS method till now and if India have to chase 237 runs and with the wet ground it will be difficult for the batsmen to score easily and it is not a fair situation and there is no other alternative situation to figure out in these situations is a bummer.
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July 09, 2019, 03:23:41 PM |
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~snip~ It is a tough spot as rain has played a major role in this tournament and if New Zealand would have played India in the league stages and if India defeated them Pakistan would have being in the semi finals instead of New Zealand and i never understood the DLS method till now and if India have to chase 237 runs and with the wet ground it will be difficult for the batsmen to score easily and it is not a fair situation and there is no other alternative situation to figure out in these situations is a bummer.
WC cricket in rainy season does not look good. This is the first world cup where we have seen most number of matches were washed out but we can not do much. Cricket is a part of a system. England and Walsh could prepare well like having covered the whole ground if the rain comes or picking venue where the chances of rain is less. Anyway, let's hope we see a finished semi which we should see. "The scorer here has just said that the game will start losing overs at least two-and-a-half hours as you have to factor in lunch,too, " updates Nagraj from Old Trafford.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8039/game/1144528/india-vs-new-zealand-1st-semi-final-icc-cricket-world-cup-2019
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July 09, 2019, 03:31:18 PM |
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If it would be a regular match then Bhomra had two overs left and it would be very hard for New Zealand to score from his overs. DLS also sucks it's no where perfect in my opinion.
It is a tough spot as rain has played a major role in this tournament and if New Zealand would have played India in the league stages and if India defeated them Pakistan would have being in the semi finals instead of New Zealand and i never understood the DLS method till now and if India have to chase 237 runs and with the wet ground it will be difficult for the batsmen to score easily and it is not a fair situation and there is no other alternative situation to figure out in these situations is a bummer. Pakistan was unlucky thrice, first as you said match between Ind Vs NZ abandoned due to rain, secondly an easy match for Pak vs Sri also abandon due to rain (where Pak could have easily got 2 points) and finally the Pak eliminated on run rate (when they already beated NZ in pool matches and hence better than NZ). Now if another teams have to face such disadvantages, why complain start ? Why People raising voices now ?
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July 09, 2019, 03:36:04 PM |
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If it would be a regular match then Bhomra had two overs left and it would be very hard for New Zealand to score from his overs. DLS also sucks it's no where perfect in my opinion.
It is a tough spot as rain has played a major role in this tournament and if New Zealand would have played India in the league stages and if India defeated them Pakistan would have being in the semi finals instead of New Zealand and i never understood the DLS method till now and if India have to chase 237 runs and with the wet ground it will be difficult for the batsmen to score easily and it is not a fair situation and there is no other alternative situation to figure out in these situations is a bummer. It seems to me that such situations happen in different sports and they are really unfair. It seems to me that in some cases you need to change the rules to take into account weather conditions. We are watching the competition teams, and not on the actions of people in extreme conditions.
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July 09, 2019, 03:45:36 PM |
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If it would be a regular match then Bhomra had two overs left and it would be very hard for New Zealand to score from his overs. DLS also sucks it's no where perfect in my opinion.
It is a tough spot as rain has played a major role in this tournament and if New Zealand would have played India in the league stages and if India defeated them Pakistan would have being in the semi finals instead of New Zealand and i never understood the DLS method till now and if India have to chase 237 runs and with the wet ground it will be difficult for the batsmen to score easily and it is not a fair situation and there is no other alternative situation to figure out in these situations is a bummer. It seems to me that such situations happen in different sports and they are really unfair. It seems to me that in some cases you need to change the rules to take into account weather conditions. We are watching the competition teams, and not on the actions of people in extreme conditions. World Cup rules were made before the start of the world cup and they are same for all the teams. If we change the rules from match to match, then it will be more unfair for one team to another. We need to accept and live with the already defined rules.
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UmerIdrees
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July 09, 2019, 04:13:15 PM |
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More bad news from Old Trafford:" And rain has picked up," says Sambit. "And that could be that." As we'd mentioned earlier the forecast isn't promising for tomorrow either.
No need to wait now. This game will not resume today. That's my early prediction. If the weather remain bad tomorrow also, India will reach the finals without playing and competing.
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July 09, 2019, 04:41:56 PM |
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More bad news from Old Trafford:" And rain has picked up," says Sambit. "And that could be that." As we'd mentioned earlier the forecast isn't promising for tomorrow either.
No need to wait now. This game will not resume today. That's my early prediction. If the weather remain bad tomorrow also, India will reach the finals without playing and competing. Rain stoped, and now it's upto umpires, if they can resume game today or not, If it will start today, it will most probably not more than 25 overs. Chasing 172 in 25 overs won't going to be easy for India. I just want it will start tomorrow, it will be really hard to chase that score in 25 or 20 overs.
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July 09, 2019, 04:58:36 PM |
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More bad news from Old Trafford:" And rain has picked up," says Sambit. "And that could be that." As we'd mentioned earlier the forecast isn't promising for tomorrow either.
No need to wait now. This game will not resume today. That's my early prediction. If the weather remain bad tomorrow also, India will reach the finals without playing and competing. Rain stoped, and now it's upto umpires, if they can resume game today or not, If it will start today, it will most probably not more than 25 overs. Chasing 172 in 25 overs won't going to be easy for India. I just want it will start tomorrow, it will be really hard to chase that score in 25 or 20 overs. There will be final inspection at 6:10 PM Local Time (about 15 mins from now). If the rain stopped, outfield is suitable dry enough and play is possible, then we should have a play today as per the procedures. Also think about the crowd who have come to watch the match and bought the tickets. Edit: Its started drizzling again. Good for India
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July 09, 2019, 05:16:59 PM |
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More bad news from Old Trafford:" And rain has picked up," says Sambit. "And that could be that." As we'd mentioned earlier the forecast isn't promising for tomorrow either.
No need to wait now. This game will not resume today. That's my early prediction. If the weather remain bad tomorrow also, India will reach the finals without playing and competing. Rain stoped, and now it's upto umpires, if they can resume game today or not, If it will start today, it will most probably not more than 25 overs. Chasing 172 in 25 overs won't going to be easy for India. I just want it will start tomorrow, it will be really hard to chase that score in 25 or 20 overs. There will be final inspection at 6:10 PM Local Time (about 15 mins from now). If the rain stopped, outfield is suitable dry enough and play is possible, then we should have a play today as per the procedures. Also think about the crowd who have come to watch the match and bought the tickets. Edit: Its started drizzling again. Good for India Now there is no chance, match will resume today, match will start tomorrow and from where it's stopped if weather allow to resume. That 30-40 runs New Zealand will make on their last 4 overs will be bad thing for India, Pitch will swing in morning and New Zealand bowlers are capable of using those seaming conditions.
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July 09, 2019, 05:28:42 PM |
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More bad news from Old Trafford:" And rain has picked up," says Sambit. "And that could be that." As we'd mentioned earlier the forecast isn't promising for tomorrow either.
No need to wait now. This game will not resume today. That's my early prediction. If the weather remain bad tomorrow also, India will reach the finals without playing and competing. Rain stoped, and now it's upto umpires, if they can resume game today or not, If it will start today, it will most probably not more than 25 overs. Chasing 172 in 25 overs won't going to be easy for India. I just want it will start tomorrow, it will be really hard to chase that score in 25 or 20 overs. There will be final inspection at 6:10 PM Local Time (about 15 mins from now). If the rain stopped, outfield is suitable dry enough and play is possible, then we should have a play today as per the procedures. Also think about the crowd who have come to watch the match and bought the tickets. Edit: Its started drizzling again. Good for India Now there is no chance, match will resume today, match will start tomorrow and from where it's stopped if weather allow to resume. That 30-40 runs New Zealand will make on their last 4 overs will be bad thing for India, Pitch will swing in morning and New Zealand bowlers are capable of using those seaming conditions. I think it is a fair decision. Rather than going with 20 -25 overs, it better to resume tomorrow and play with full 50 overs. Thank god we have reserve days for the semi finals.
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UmerIdrees
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July 09, 2019, 06:45:36 PM |
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Forecast for tomorrow isn't good too but we do hope that we get at least 20 overs tomorrow so that a deserving team reaches the final after playing good cricket.
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