Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20

[sunsilk]

The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.

I don't have any news to share but IMHO this is because of the influx bets for Manny and that made the odds change from time to time. The more people that will bet for Manny, odds are likely to change more.

There's still enough time to see what will be the final odds so the odds right now are likely to change again if there will be more bets for each other.

Right, maybe Chavit put a big bet on Manny again that's why the odds have change a bit.  . Or those who are making the odds is now convinced that Manny Pacquiao chance to win has greater because he is on a good shape and has something to proved to his fans and critics alike. I like the it though, it will make Thurman and his trainers be wary about Manny now. We still have 4 weeks to go, so there might be swings in the odds in favor of Manny and I'm not surprise if he will be the favorite as we get closer to the fight.

The big gambler of all time, I don't know if he's into any crypto casino but if ever he bets, I'm sure that it's not just hundreds of thousands but it's around millions of dollar.

He made fortune by supporting Manny for each of his fights and he's able to make his fame and riches together with the champ. Going back to Manny, those remaining 4 weeks I think we'll see a total blast of change for the odds.

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[spadormie]

I love Manny Pacquiao style in boxing. And I'm proud that he's also a Filipino too just like me. The funny thing in here is, Keith Thurman trashtalked Manny when they were interviewed. Trash talking in boxing is being done always by Manny's opponents. The ending is, the opponent's got knocked out. I hope this one ends the same.

[Darker45]

Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:

Last May 28, 2019 was

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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
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Odds now on sportsbet.io:


The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.

The odds should not be too far from each other.

Manny is old, yes. Does he remain strong? Definitely. The last fight may not be the same as when he was at his prime but it was enough a terrible show of power at 40.

How about Thurman? At 30, it is not at all a young age inside the ring. Not to mention that he had long months sitting idly around because of a surgery. And what about the performance? The last fight, and even the previous one or two fights; they are not at all something that Manny should be scared about.

No wonder why the team Pacquiao chose Thurman. The hype looked as if it is going to be a steep uphill climb but it might actually end up a walk in the park for Pacquiao.

[hulla]

Another challenging fight for Manny since Amir also have a good name from this game but that's still far and this coming event is more important, Manny needs to play hard to win against this young Thurman, speed will be the focus knowing that Thurman is more younger than him he should condition his stamina to stay with him and to keep the fight running till the last round of possible.

The Thurman fight is going to be extremely challenging for Manny, since his opponent is at his peak. On the other hand, Amir Khan is a shadow of his former self. He lost to Terence Crawford last month, and his performance was rated below par by most of the experts. Next month he is having a fight against Neeraj Goyat. I am not sure about the outcome of that fight (vs Neeraj), but for sure Manny will be the favorite to win against Khan if this fight happens. 

The last time I checked Amir Khan fight against Manny will happen November 6 and I think it too early for us to discuss or make any prediction now for Khan seems to be waiting for such clash between himself and Manny. Therefore, rating Khan rating due to his previous fight won't provide the right prediction.

Nah, Amir Khan should wait for the outcome of the fight. But he said he wish Manny should win so that they could set up the fight.

He wishes Manny should win cause he wants Manny to be in his best because Manny was a big opponent for him which will make him reassure of his physical and mental strength status in the ring.

Another challenging fight for Manny since Amir also have a good name from this game but that's still far and this coming event is more important, Manny needs to play hard to win against this young Thurman, speed will be the focus knowing that Thurman is more younger than him he should condition his stamina to stay with him and to keep the fight running till the last round of possible.

The Thurman fight is going to be extremely challenging for Manny, since his opponent is at his peak. On the other hand, Amir Khan is a shadow of his former self. He lost to Terence Crawford last month, and his performance was rated below par by most of the experts. Next month he is having a fight against Neeraj Goyat. I am not sure about the outcome of that fight (vs Neeraj), but for sure Manny will be the favorite to win against Khan if this fight happens. 

The last time I checked Amir Khan fight against Manny will happen November 6 and I think it too early for us to discuss or make any prediction now for Khan seems to be waiting for such clash between himself and Manny. Therefore, rating Khan rating due to his previous fight won't provide the right prediction.

Nah, Amir Khan should wait for the outcome of the fight. But he said he wish Manny should win so that they could set up the fight. However, I think Amir should just concentrate on Kell Brook, it will bring more money as those two are local 'enemies'. Just like Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales. But I don't know who is stalling the fight though.

Anyways, Amir Khan is already on the down spiral of his career and I doubt that Manny will give him a chance, he is more shot that Manny and it could be a mismatch, just saying.

Khan is already a wash up fighter, he just want to fight Manny to have a big paycheck prior to him retiring. Manny is immune to this trash talk, maybe what's get his ire is the way Manny Thurman disrespect him legacy specially about 'retiring him'. Anyways, has anyone got some update on the said injury of Pacman?

Yes, he is a wash up fighter but to be honest must of the boxer of this days dont give us a real fight like in the time of Ali, Tyson etc because they all after the money involved. However, there's chance that Khan might not fight against Manny if his fight against Neeraj Goyat dont go well cause he said he may retire if he does not feel good when facing Neeraj Goyat.

[mich]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

[suzanne5223]

That's the kind of support Manny is getting from the Philippines,60% meaning most of the best, but I'd love to know if they have at least a figure so we can determine how much money are flowing so far?

I am currently looking on the Data that you've requested. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find one but I think forbes can still be a good reliable source so we will just consider it as is for the time being. Hopefully we can get more insights on the sportsbook that was mentioned

@Botnake, it normal for Manny to have such percent of support from the Philippines cause he's your senator and the leading fighter who represent Philippine. But, unfortunately there's chance that Thurman might end his career if Manny is not well prepared because Thurman seems determined for betting $10K for winning the fight on KO.

Concern the cash that has flow in, no one know for now but I'm sure Manny will make a minimum of $20 million from the fight.

I'm just curious what would be the multiplier for that bet, I'm sure that is not a 50/50 payout.
I like to counter his bet, Manny beating him in 3 rounds by KO, though less likely to happen but if the odds are really good then I guess it's worth a try.

You seems not to get the point here about the statement I made earlier cause Thurman was the one I'm talking about to beat Manny in 3rounds on KO and the guy (Thurman) even put his money on the line just to proof to the world how confidence he's about winning the fight.

[peter0425]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

Yes, I also saw some news that VADA won't handle this one. However, this whole doping has been going on for years specially about Pacman and so far we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary to really say that he did take some PED's before. But I'm sure they will be subjected to random testing by Performance Enhancing Drug Testing Organizations PEDTO).

[Twinkledoe]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

Yes, I also saw some news that VADA won't handle this one. However, this whole doping has been going on for years specially about Pacman and so far we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary to really say that he did take some PED's before. But I'm sure they will be subjected to random testing by Performance Enhancing Drug Testing Organizations PEDTO).

Been old news and issue but they don't have anything to prove such case of Pacquiao. Why they couldn't admit to themselves that Pacquiao has the real power in this sports and he really works hard on it? He's always open to this random testing anyway and they only make the big fuss about it.

[nydiacaskey01]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

I see it more like a publicity than something to be taken seriously. Senator Manny hates drugs as much as his President Rodrigo Duterte, he will not allow such thing to flow in his system. I don't know about Thurman if he is open to such idea. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for him to meet a boxing icon inside the ring, I don't think he will ruin this fight because of this.

[Lanatsa]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

Yes, I also saw some news that VADA won't handle this one. However, this whole doping has been going on for years specially about Pacman and so far we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary to really say that he did take some PED's before. But I'm sure they will be subjected to random testing by Performance Enhancing Drug Testing Organizations PEDTO).

Been old news and issue but they don't have anything to prove such case of Pacquiao. Why they couldn't admit to themselves that Pacquiao has the real power in this sports and he really works hard on it? He's always open to this random testing anyway and they only make the big fuss about it.

They just like to make sure but usually other party might have sparked out this test who knows.They can test all they
want and anytime but they would just still get the same results because theres no other great thing on having a great power and
good performance by its body when it comes to boxing.

[Lan75]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

I can attest that Manny is not taking any illegal substance , his source of energy is the word of the almighty God. I don't accused him of taking bad substance in the past but at the moment Manny is a renewed guy. He is a born again Christian and doing such an illegal thing is a mortal sin and Manny is a very reputable person in the Philippines and the controversy that may arise in doping will not help his political career.

[Janation]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

I can attest that Manny is not taking any illegal substance , his source of energy is the word of the almighty God. I don't accused him of taking bad substance in the past but at the moment Manny is a renewed guy. He is a born again Christian and doing such an illegal thing is a mortal sin and Manny is a very reputable person in the Philippines and the controversy that may arise in doping will not help his political career.

we don't know about that.

There are a lot of things we don't know of and even the most saint in our history has his own dark secrets that only a few know of. I am not saying that Manny Pacquiao is really taking drugs, what I am saying is that we don't know, he might or he might not. All I know is that Manny is a good person and a lot of people know that since he gave a lot of things to poor people, especially in his town.

[Natalim]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

I can attest that Manny is not taking any illegal substance , his source of energy is the word of the almighty God. I don't accused him of taking bad substance in the past but at the moment Manny is a renewed guy. He is a born again Christian and doing such an illegal thing is a mortal sin and Manny is a very reputable person in the Philippines and the controversy that may arise in doping will not help his political career.

we don't know about that.

There are a lot of things we don't know of and even the most saint in our history has his own dark secrets that only a few know of. I am not saying that Manny Pacquiao is really taking drugs, what I am saying is that we don't know, he might or he might not. All I know is that Manny is a good person and a lot of people know that since he gave a lot of things to poor people, especially in his town.

If I remember correction, it was Mayweather who start with that random drug testing on Manny, but Manny is not proven using enhancement drugs to improve his power. But to be fair, if they'll do that, it would be better, but if not, I have no complain, still whoever wins as long as it's a pretty exciting fight, that's what matters.

[darklus123]

Just wanted to brought this up, Recently there was an interview with Morales who actually one of the few fighters that defeated Pacman undoubtedly and he predicted that even if Thurman is a great fighter as well this game might be easy for money especially that he has more experienced.

See it here
https://youtu.be/gv0BLxbiHvM

Being the underdog here also makes pacman's hunger more serious to win the fight.

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

Nothing so serious about the news anyways, I personally do not know Thurman but I am pretty sure that Pacman isn't juicing or something, it is just another marketing way to pre heat the fight.

[asu]

Just wanted to brought this up, Recently there was an interview with Morales who actually one of the few fighters that defeated Pacman undoubtedly and he predicted that even if Thurman is a great fighter as well this game might be easy for money especially that he has more experienced.

See it here
https://youtu.be/gv0BLxbiHvM

Being the underdog here also makes pacman's hunger more serious to win the fight.

Don’t know Keith Thurman quite a lot, but our “pambansang kamao” will surely brought up a well entertaining good fight to all the audience and a 40 years old manny pacquiao who is a beast like how he destroyed a lot of good fighters.

Respect a lot juan manuel marquez and all mexian fighters.

[robelneo]

I've been seeing some interviews of both camps and I think Thurman looks nervous he tried to show how confident he is but he is acting like he wants to bully Manny, but Pacquiao knows that he can beat Thurman, Thurman keeps bragging he will not run but all the other fighters who fought Manny said the same thing, we'll see on July 20 my prediction Manny by decision hopefully by knockout.

[GreatArkansas]

I dont want to start any rumors but maybe someone in taking illegal doping 

In a bit of a puzzling move, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) won’t be handling drug testing for Manny Pacquiao’s July 20th bout with Keith Thurman.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/24/18715849/pacquiao-vs-thurman-drug-testing-nevada-commission-not-vada-fox-pbc-boxing

Btw, in that news, on which side could have a negative effect? On Manny Pacquiao or on Keith Thurman?

You guys this could be the reason why the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman fight did decrease?
Like, the odds of Manny Pacquiao almost the same now with Kieth Thurman.

For what I believe, there is still much reason why that happens.

[Japinat]

Being the underdog here also makes pacman's hunger more serious to win the fight.

Take not that he is not the underdog anymore, it's only in the beginning that he is the underdog but now things are changing as they are even now.
Pacquioa is even a slight favorite in the fight as he got an odds of 1.84 while Thurman is currently at 1.86 per sportsbet.io.

[asu]

Take not that he is not the underdog anymore, it's only in the beginning that he is the underdog but now things are changing as they are even now.
Pacquioa is even a slight favorite in the fight as he got an odds of 1.84 while Thurman is currently at 1.86 per sportsbet.io.

You quoted wrong, it should be posted by darklus123 not me.

Being the underdog here also makes pacman's hunger more serious to win the fight.

Anyways not a serious matter at all, AFAIK in the first place where the match has been successfully announced and confirmed for their fight. Manny Pacquaio was on the good odds and underdog of the fight, but guess what it seems the air switch a little favor for manny now.

[bisdak40]

I've been seeing some interviews of both camps and I think Thurman looks nervous he tried to show how confident he is but he is acting like he wants to bully Manny, but Pacquiao knows that he can beat Thurman, Thurman keeps bragging he will not run but all the other fighters who fought Manny said the same thing, we'll see on July 20 my prediction Manny by decision hopefully by knockout.

If you look at that way then that is a good sign for you to bet on the Pacman. Manny has been to many wars against big names and there are hearsay that some individuals became millionaire by just betting on a Pacman fight. This maybe our time to become one also lol.