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July 01, 2019, 05:45:32 AM
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Don't make things complicated, you can bet with your friends and other people whom you think can be trusted, of course don't risk a big amount here as sportsbook is more secured with bigger amount of money.

I don't know about you guys, but I have a lot of experienced betting outside of legalized platform specially I'm from the Philippines. I mean you can find people here looking to bet for or against Manny since he is a "hero" here.

The most "trusted" place? Still the best for me, our local barbershop, lol. Everyone knows each other there, you just have to spread the word there that you are willing to place this xxx amount for or against Manny and sure you will get someone from the opposite side.  Grin. Not just in boxing but in many sports like basketball or even MMA.

Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

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July 01, 2019, 08:09:43 AM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.

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July 01, 2019, 12:09:26 PM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.

Absolutely, though even if it’s hard to find someone in our country (philippines) on the other side. Gambling would be gambling so risk is always their that we giving some good deal like a betting for pacman in a knockout win, something like that. However, for us we can’t put a huge amount with that kind of rules so we just make it for fun and the support to our pambansang kamao pacquiao.

But if you truly want a win win situation where there is no rules, only for winning both sides. Then, sportsbetting site is the real deal for it.

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July 01, 2019, 01:01:05 PM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.

Right, I would rather go with sportsbookies to place my bet on Manny in this fight.

I wouldn't risk big money like that in the streets, I'm not saying it's bad, but for me anything can happen so no, I would not go on that route.
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July 01, 2019, 04:15:45 PM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.
It's much easier if you are familiar with sports house you can place your bets and wait for the results, but either way if you can also find someone who's willing to do the deal that's also good as you can make a deal and sit beside your opponents while watching the fight, it will adds some more excitement.
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July 01, 2019, 09:04:25 PM
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Don't make things complicated, you can bet with your friends and other people whom you think can be trusted, of course don't risk a big amount here as sportsbook is more secured with bigger amount of money.
You can bet offline with people you know but you can bet only a small amount unlike if you bet online where you can bet bigger and lot of options on the odds and the most important thing is you are anonymous.
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July 01, 2019, 09:51:08 PM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

... but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet ...

When he was at his peak, there is no one in the Philippines willing to bet against him. But recently, there are some who are willing to bet and ready to place a large amount against Pacquiao.

Right, I would rather go with sportsbookies to place my bet on Manny in this fight.
I wouldn't risk big money like that in the streets, I'm not saying it's bad, but for me anything can happen so no, I would not go on that route.
Maybe on other places, but here in the Philippines, it is just normal to bet on the streets whenever there are big events on sports like NBA Championship series or MMA or boxing bouts. The bets are made in groups so the pot normally becomes really large very fast.
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July 01, 2019, 10:41:48 PM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.

Right, I would rather go with sportsbookies to place my bet on Manny in this fight.

I wouldn't risk big money like that in the streets, I'm not saying it's bad, but for me anything can happen so no, I would not go on that route.
You can bet on the streets if the person/group you're going to deal with is trustworthy but sometimes even you already know him/them getting pissed is common. Thus I prefer placing my bet on sportsbetting site to have a smooth deal especially now that Pacquiao's fight against Thurman will going to happen in few weeks.

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July 01, 2019, 11:23:01 PM
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You can bet offline with people you know but you can bet only a small amount unlike if you bet online where you can bet bigger and lot of options on the odds and the most important thing is you are anonymous.
Betting on bookies doesn't mean that you have to bet bigger but you have also the choice to bet with a small amount.

I don't know about you guys, but I have a lot of experienced betting outside of legalized platform specially I'm from the Philippines. I mean you can find people here looking to bet for or against Manny since he is a "hero" here.

The most "trusted" place? Still the best for me, our local barbershop, lol. Everyone knows each other there, you just have to spread the word there that you are willing to place this xxx amount for or against Manny and sure you will get someone from the opposite side.  Grin. Not just in boxing but in many sports like basketball or even MMA.

Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.
P2P betting, this kind of setup will also work for someone who wants to bet directly with other people. $1k seems huge for me and is this for the upcoming fight or this came from the past fights? handicap and plus can also be applied with this kind of betting.

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July 02, 2019, 12:40:41 AM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.

Right, I would rather go with sportsbookies to place my bet on Manny in this fight.

I wouldn't risk big money like that in the streets, I'm not saying it's bad, but for me anything can happen so no, I would not go on that route.
You can bet on the streets if the person/group you're going to deal with is trustworthy but sometimes even you already know him/them getting pissed is common. Thus I prefer placing my bet on sportsbetting site to have a smooth deal especially now that Pacquiao's fight against Thurman will going to happen in few weeks.

Right, but if it just a friendly bet with your buddies then I say you can go with it. I remember back then when Pacquiao was a beast, we can go either with some of my friends house or my place, place a bet on the table and watch the fight. And then you can rub it it when Pacquiao won in a brutal fashion. Grin

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July 02, 2019, 12:54:44 AM
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When he was at his peak, there is no one in the Philippines willing to bet against him. But recently, there are some who are willing to bet and ready to place a large amount against Pacquiao.
There are still people who are betting against Manny Pacquiao but they are only betting because of the odds, I know some places in our hometown that doing such a bet, but there are odds, like 100/60. 100- Manny Pacquiao, 60- Keith Thurman. There are also 100/70, it really depends.

If these kinds of odds on local, I'll really go against Manny Pacquiao on this even with small bet only.
Those gambling place or authority are also trusted since some of them are a group of people or business establishment that has a good reputation in terms of gambling, just like Billiards sports gambling , cock fighting gambling, etc.

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July 02, 2019, 01:14:20 AM
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Now officially the tables have turned from Pacman being the underdog now he is still the favorite, currently according to
https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/boxing/

Pacman is the new favorite for this fight having -120 over Thurman's +100. It seems that after the several media cover of Pacman's training there might be analysts or bettors who found out that Pacman might still have that power and can actually defeat Thurman. I am not so sure about it but I think one thing that also have boosted the current situation was because of the Mexican fighter statement. This now makes the fight more and more interesting.


Read the full article here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/07/01/why-manny-pacquiao-has-surged-in-latest-odds-and-is-now-the-favorite-over-keith-thurman/#3408e400696e
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July 02, 2019, 01:52:46 AM
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Highest bet I have seen is more than $1K, that money is huge already here.

I could risk that level of amount outside sportsbook, but Philippines is pro Pacman so I don't think it's easy to find a gambler that would accept your bet if you also are rooting for Pacman to win, best choose is just sportsbook, no hassle and not risk.

Yes, Philippines is predominantly Pacquiao, but there are still who loves to bet against him.

P2P betting, this kind of setup will also work for someone who wants to bet directly with other people. $1k seems huge for me and is this for the upcoming fight or this came from the past fights? handicap and plus can also be applied with this kind of betting.

It was the first Bradley fight, I bet for Manny for there are people who go against him and put a big bet of around $1K, it was huge as Manny lost a controversial decision the first time. And the funny thing is, after the fight, the winners bought some beers around and then we started the never ending debate that night. Grin

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July 02, 2019, 06:42:10 AM
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Now officially the tables have turned from Pacman being the underdog now he is still the favorite, currently according to
https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/boxing/

Pacman is the new favorite for this fight having -120 over Thurman's +100. It seems that after the several media cover of Pacman's training there might be analysts or bettors who found out that Pacman might still have that power and can actually defeat Thurman. I am not so sure about it but I think one thing that also have boosted the current situation was because of the Mexican fighter statement. This now makes the fight more and more interesting.


Read the full article here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/07/01/why-manny-pacquiao-has-surged-in-latest-odds-and-is-now-the-favorite-over-keith-thurman/#3408e400696e
As the fight getting closer it will be a good twist with gamblers who are looking for this news, now the betting side will be much exciting gamblers who
bets previously for Manny when he still the underdog have a much higher odds than those who wait for this timing and waits for more updates regarding to this fight, Manny still have what he've got from this sport so might be the reason why bookers are placing this odds now.
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July 02, 2019, 12:47:21 PM
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~snip~

Don't make things complicated, you can bet with your friends and other people whom you think can be trusted, of course don't risk a big amount here as sportsbook is more secured with bigger amount of money.

You are making things complicated here, not me. I had posted out of my own experience. I have seen fist-fights between close friends, because there was an argument over an informal bet. It is not about whether you trust someone or not. Why you want to do this informally, when it can be done through legal channels? I know that any chance of some argument arising is quite small. But it is a risk that I would never take.
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July 02, 2019, 01:18:42 PM
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Nice thought mate and nice choice we should know thurman is young boxer and strong but we knows the power punch of pacman even if he is 10 years older, but really believes this fight manny(pacman) get wiin by knockout decision.



Fight for;
Undefeated young vs Living Legend Pacquiao, the same as Floyd Mayweather (Undefeated) vs Manny Pacquiao = what a coincidence.
If Thurman fight manny face to face without using the ring as like a running obstacle maybe Manny can beat him in good way,since that’s not how mayweather do when he fought Manny few years ago
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What if manny defeat thurman? does we can see another fight for floyd and manny?
I doubt Floyd will face any boxer again as he declared formally that he is retired and even meet Manny for advertisement early this year in Philippines

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July 02, 2019, 01:39:04 PM
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I doubt Floyd will face any boxer again as he declared formally that he is retired and even meet Manny for advertisement early this year in Philippines
If the price is right, Floyd will fight anyone who can help him generate millions of dollars just like what he earned from his fights with Manny and Conor. At this point, only Floyd and Pacman 2 can come close to those fights.
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July 02, 2019, 02:41:11 PM
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When he was at his peak, there is no one in the Philippines willing to bet against him. But recently, there are some who are willing to bet and ready to place a large amount against Pacquiao.
There are still people who are betting against Manny Pacquiao but they are only betting because of the odds, I know some places in our hometown that doing such a bet, but there are odds, like 100/60. 100- Manny Pacquiao, 60- Keith Thurman. There are also 100/70, it really depends.

If these kinds of odds on local, I'll really go against Manny Pacquiao on this even with small bet only.
Those gambling place or authority are also trusted since some of them are a group of people or business establishment that has a good reputation in terms of gambling, just like Billiards sports gambling , cock fighting gambling, etc.
In early bets you can get good odds for Manny Pacquiao than Thurman but right now it looks like Pacman odds drop a lot and increase odds for Thurman.

If you bet early you can get a good odds for Manny but right now the odds are too low compared on the first announcement in any sports betting site.

Anyway, I believe that Manny Pacquiao will win this game again.
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July 02, 2019, 02:52:20 PM
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When he was at his peak, there is no one in the Philippines willing to bet against him. But recently, there are some who are willing to bet and ready to place a large amount against Pacquiao.
There are still people who are betting against Manny Pacquiao but they are only betting because of the odds, I know some places in our hometown that doing such a bet, but there are odds, like 100/60. 100- Manny Pacquiao, 60- Keith Thurman. There are also 100/70, it really depends.

If these kinds of odds on local, I'll really go against Manny Pacquiao on this even with small bet only.
Those gambling place or authority are also trusted since some of them are a group of people or business establishment that has a good reputation in terms of gambling, just like Billiards sports gambling , cock fighting gambling, etc.

What kind of odds is that, that's really confusing. Does it mean 1.60 and 1.70 for Pacman and Thurman respectively?

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July 02, 2019, 07:50:39 PM
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It's already July so I'm sure a lot of you are really very excited to see the fight and so is the publicity and trash talking.

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BoxingScene.com: Is he a guy style-wise that you can not only win against, but get out of there and look impressive against?

Keith Thurman: Of course we want to look good defeating Manny Pacquiao. The less credit he gets the more credit I get. The more credit he gets the less credit I get. It’s a real fight. We’re fighting for status. We’re fighting for history. We’re fighting for legacy. We’re fighting for world titles. And I want to make a statement. So I believe that with my ring knowledge and the way that I’ve boxed throughout the years, I just believe that Manny Pacquiao’s style was never a good style against my style. And I plan on proving that and just going toe to toe and testing him, man to man. I really don’t think that Manny Pacquiao is going to take my talent. I am looking for a KO. We’ll see if he can survive.

https://www.boxingscene.com/thurman-im-looking-ko-well-see-if-pacquiao-survive--140508

The more he open his mouth, the more people are betting against him, Lol. Looking for a KO? that is he Manny will give him that opportunity, Manny's defense is under-rated because we seen his only side of offensive firepower. However, I think Manny is very smart fighter specially his defense as well, he can defend and then at the same time throw that left.

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