MintDice Bitcoin Casino - SportsBook & Provably Fair Games

[Bitinity]

Still unlucky to hit x1000, here is another x140 (x70 with 6 on the dice) that I got recently. I could win 0.1btc if the dice landed on x1000 with 6 on the dice lol
Not a big win but still a nice win, I'll keep on hunting the x1000 as I'm so curious because I could hit it on other sites. Hope to hit it as soon as possible before getting busted 

Saw that finally you hit 1000x on plinko,seems lucky day for you.

But for me its the unlucky day,burned all my funds while playing plinko.

Yah I did eventually, too bad I hit it when I decreased my bet amount 50% but still a nice win. My next target on mintdice is to hit the jackpot of the slot game LOL, I tried it as well yesterday. I got 4 bitcoin logo few times already so I feel like it is close enough to hit 5 bitcoin logo which will give me a payout of 100,000x (high risk slots) or 10,000x (medium risk). Worth to try with small bet, so lets be the first who hit that max payout on the slot game and be one of the history of mintdice 

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[nc50lc]

Regarding your bet result verification, specifically Dice.
Why is the Server SEED displayed as "currently active"? It should be displayed now as the bet that I was checking was from 2 months ago 

Here's the image (screenshot date: today):


The Server SEED for that bet isn't displayed so, I can't verify it.
You're not changing the Server SEED in every bet or old bets that's why it's still "currently active"?

[simpa1337]

A bit of an late update, I was payed out the same day.
500x win, on a deposit of 50euro I withdrew around 2k+ euro in BTC.
Thank you and good luck. (dont gamble if you cant afford the losses, its purely luck and the odds are not in your favor).

[theskillzdatklls]

Still unlucky to hit x1000, here is another x140 (x70 with 6 on the dice) that I got recently. I could win 0.1btc if the dice landed on x1000 with 6 on the dice lol
Not a big win but still a nice win, I'll keep on hunting the x1000 as I'm so curious because I could hit it on other sites. Hope to hit it as soon as possible before getting busted 

Saw that finally you hit 1000x on plinko,seems lucky day for you.

But for me its the unlucky day,burned all my funds while playing plinko.

Yah I did eventually, too bad I hit it when I decreased my bet amount 50% but still a nice win. My next target on mintdice is to hit the jackpot of the slot game LOL, I tried it as well yesterday. I got 4 bitcoin logo few times already so I feel like it is close enough to hit 5 bitcoin logo which will give me a payout of 100,000x (high risk slots) or 10,000x (medium risk). Worth to try with small bet, so lets be the first who hit that max payout on the slot game and be one of the history of mintdice 

I've only ever personally seen someone hit the blue slots jackpot. Never the green let alone the red slots. I've personally played slots more than anything and I did hit the red slots 500x one time which isn't all too bad. To be clear though, so there's no disappointment, red = 10,000x and green = 1,000x. It may be too confusing and may need to be rewritten but our slot guide panel was effectively copied from Vegas slot machine table styles.

But either way, I'm looking forward to seeing you hit it sooner or later

Also, around I'd say Q2 of 2020, we plan on integrating a cool new upgrade to our slot machines that will make the jackpot hunting thing a little more exciting. It needs a little more discussion first but I think it will have some very cool ideas for all kinds of bettors.

Regarding your bet result verification, specifically Dice.
Why is the Server SEED displayed as "currently active"? It should be displayed now as the bet that I was checking was from 2 months ago 

Here's the image (screenshot date: today):


The Server SEED for that bet isn't displayed so, I can't verify it.
You're not changing the Server SEED in every bet or old bets that's why it's still "currently active"?

I'll be honest, I don't personally understand Provably Fair more than at a fairly superficial level (I am not a developer). I know there are issues with our current implementation and they are already fixed on our latest software upgrade but that is presently still just on our testnet server and has not gone onto our live server yet but I assure you this problem should be resolved sooner than later. I apologize for the inconvenience in the mean time.

A bit of an late update, I was payed out the same day.
500x win, on a deposit of 50euro I withdrew around 2k+ euro in BTC.
Thank you and good luck. (dont gamble if you cant afford the losses, its purely luck and the odds are not in your favor).

You're welcome and congrats on the beautiful win.

[RealMalatesta]

I still think that confirmation based ones are easier to deal with. It means the gambler would have to wait for confirmation and that may take sometime but then again that is not mintdices problem. If the gambler sends a quick one with high fee then they will be able to play very quickly, its still not instant but at least its good enough that it might deposit in less than one hour.

If the gambler decides to not play or even withdraw after one hour instead of gambling then that's fine, mintdice will always have a lot of people who would be willing to gamble after waiting for the deposit. I doubt they would have too many people who will decide not to gamble after waiting for the confirmation, those must be rare. That way they could also have automatic withdrawal as well.

[nc50lc]

I'll be honest, I don't personally understand Provably Fair more than at a fairly superficial level (I am not a developer). I know there are issues with our current implementation and they are already fixed on our latest software upgrade but that is presently still just on our testnet server and has not gone onto our live server yet but I assure you this problem should be resolved sooner than later. I apologize for the inconvenience in the mean time.

It's pretty simple actually.
You (the site) provides the next bet's Server SEED hash in advance, an editable client SEED which was automatically generated by the client (+nounce depending on the algorithm) and the algorithm itself; eg. a link somewhere in the betting area.
The server seed was hashed because the player can cheat the system by changing his client seed if the actual server seed is displayed, and for verification if the same seed was used for that bet.
Then each bet's server seed should be displayed in the "bet lookup" info (for verification / to reproduce the bet result)...

...It's good to hear that the provably fair system was already on testing stage.
But AFAIK, I thought I've already seen the site stating "Provably Fair" months ago, maybe it's from a different site

[Tytanowy Janusz]

I'll be honest, I don't personally understand Provably Fair more than at a fairly superficial level (I am not a developer). I know there are issues with our current implementation and they are already fixed on our latest software upgrade but that is presently still just on our testnet server and has not gone onto our live server yet but I assure you this problem should be resolved sooner than later. I apologize for the inconvenience in the mean time.

Just like nc50lc said. It's pretty simple. Here you can find explanation (written in a way that average user can get it) together with example.

And few more links from BTT:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184988.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161236.0

[leea-1334]

I think manually is a common concept in casinos, there has been a lot of people who have abused the automatic system with the double spending method of nonconfirmation with zero fee etc etc which goes back to the sender because the fee is not enough and it is not getting picked up by the blocks.

It means if casinos let the automated withdraw work, they would see the money coming in and then they would credit the gambler and if they lose they get their money back anyway, if they win they both get their money back plus the wins. Hence the automated system doesn't really work anymore, maybe if the confirmation process takes longer, like takes 3 confirmations to get credits but that would mean gambler can't gamble right away and their gambling hype may die.

Of course manual processing is needed especially for big withdrawals. I actually hardly make any small withdrawals (never less than $50) so I always make my withdrawals carefully and on a significant amount,,, and it the site's hot wallet is big enough I get it instant (Talking about yolodice and bitvest for example).

If not, admin just has to do it manually for big amounts. VERY normal.

[RivAngE]

Update, the withdrawal went though and has now been sent to pending.
I did a 500x hit on the slots.

I guess mintdice is processing all the transactions manually,so worth to wait for that 500x reward.Picking up the high priority fee will make things much faster!

I think manually is a common concept in casinos, there has been a lot of people who have abused the automatic system with the double spending method of nonconfirmation with zero fee etc etc which goes back to the sender because the fee is not enough and it is not getting picked up by the blocks.

It means if casinos let the automated withdraw work, they would see the money coming in and then they would credit the gambler and if they lose they get their money back anyway, if they win they both get their money back plus the wins. Hence the automated system doesn't really work anymore, maybe if the confirmation process takes longer, like takes 3 confirmations to get credits but that would mean gambler can't gamble right away and their gambling hype may die.

What you're describing is called double spending.
It can happen if a blockchain forks/splits into two chains for a little time before one of the two chains becomes invalid, usually because an entity takes over 50% of the consensus of the network.

This is something every unlikely to happen with Bitcoin.

Also if a transaction is canceled because it was sent with too low fees, then it has never been confirmed and there's no reason any company would credit you the amount of an unconfirmed transaction.

[veleten]

I think manually is a common concept in casinos, there has been a lot of people who have abused the automatic system with the double spending method of nonconfirmation with zero fee etc etc which goes back to the sender because the fee is not enough and it is not getting picked up by the blocks.

It means if casinos let the automated withdraw work, they would see the money coming in and then they would credit the gambler and if they lose they get their money back anyway, if they win they both get their money back plus the wins. Hence the automated system doesn't really work anymore, maybe if the confirmation process takes longer, like takes 3 confirmations to get credits but that would mean gambler can't gamble right away and their gambling hype may die.

Of course manual processing is needed especially for big withdrawals. I actually hardly make any small withdrawals (never less than $50) so I always make my withdrawals carefully and on a significant amount,,, and it the site's hot wallet is big enough I get it instant (Talking about yolodice and bitvest for example).

If not, admin just has to do it manually for big amounts. VERY normal.

while I do agree that manual processing of big amounts is a must ( to check if there wasn't anything shady going on  )
generally , manual payouts is what makes gamblers reconsider playing at a casino
nothing could be worse when you que your coins to get paid and they  do not arrive to your wallet
makes all kind of scenarios run through your head , you start to ask people in chat , worry etc.
and doublespending is not a thing anymore , there are no casinos that I know that accept instant deposits and frankly , there is no reason to do it
after your deposit gets one confirmation , you cannot doublespend , not possible

[justdimin]

My wife enjoys the slots as well, she has been playing on the blue one for a while and doesn't like the green and red ones, she likes to win even if small and just continue gambling instead of gambling and losing for a long time hoping you can hit big once.

I am exactly the contrary, I hate gambling for hours and have exactly zero to show for it, I may break even and that's fine but I just dislike the notion that I just spent hours and made zero, either Imma lose all my money in the end or Imma profit a ton with a big jackpot or some big win, that is when I feel like I am actually gambling. Otherwise whats the point if at the end I lost just couple thousand satoshi or won couple thousand satoshi, it is not never happened and doesn't matter, it is the big wins that matters to me.

[theskillzdatklls]

I'll be honest, I don't personally understand Provably Fair more than at a fairly superficial level (I am not a developer). I know there are issues with our current implementation and they are already fixed on our latest software upgrade but that is presently still just on our testnet server and has not gone onto our live server yet but I assure you this problem should be resolved sooner than later. I apologize for the inconvenience in the mean time.

It's pretty simple actually.
You (the site) provides the next bet's Server SEED hash in advance, an editable client SEED which was automatically generated by the client (+nounce depending on the algorithm) and the algorithm itself; eg. a link somewhere in the betting area.
The server seed was hashed because the player can cheat the system by changing his client seed if the actual server seed is displayed, and for verification if the same seed was used for that bet.
Then each bet's server seed should be displayed in the "bet lookup" info (for verification / to reproduce the bet result)...

...It's good to hear that the provably fair system was already on testing stage.
But AFAIK, I thought I've already seen the site stating "Provably Fair" months ago, maybe it's from a different site

Okay, we have a Provably Fair implementation that will be made more obvious soon enough on the next patch, let me know if this works for you guys in the short run:

Dice
Slots
Plinko

Presently these links are only found in our FAQ specific to any game.

Warning: There is currently a bug with how the "user seed (nonced)" is displayed. It is suppose to have a "-" between the nonce and the user seed, so if you're "user seed (nonced)" is something like: "WBteQwqBn27YyDDVX1Q2p13mi413FB42", it's actually supposed to be "WBteQwqBn27YyDDVX1Q2p13mi413FB-42". This will be fixed with the next update soon.

My wife enjoys the slots as well, she has been playing on the blue one for a while and doesn't like the green and red ones, she likes to win even if small and just continue gambling instead of gambling and losing for a long time hoping you can hit big once.

I am exactly the contrary, I hate gambling for hours and have exactly zero to show for it, I may break even and that's fine but I just dislike the notion that I just spent hours and made zero, either Imma lose all my money in the end or Imma profit a ton with a big jackpot or some big win, that is when I feel like I am actually gambling. Otherwise whats the point if at the end I lost just couple thousand satoshi or won couple thousand satoshi, it is not never happened and doesn't matter, it is the big wins that matters to me.

My favorite game has been red slots for this same reason. If I'm going to gamble, I want something to happen, so I personally want the variance increased to the absolute maximum But different strokes for different folks. I'm actually happy to hear your story because it sounds like we developed a good range of outcomes for different types of people that make each of you happy.

[nc50lc]

Okay, we have a Provably Fair implementation that will be made more obvious soon enough on the next patch, let me know if this works for you guys in the short run:

Dice
Slots
Plinko

Presently these links are only found in our FAQ specific to any game.

[1] Currently, it will not work since the Server Seed of the previous bets are displayed as "currently active" as I've said above;
and the next bet's CS, SS Hash and Nounce aren't displayed, if the next bet's info aren't displayed before hitting "roll", it defeats the purpose of Provably fair since the site can just put a random result later in the bet lookup page.

Those links (I've already visited it since my 1st reply) works as the temporary link to the "Algorithm" for technical users.
(It's the explaination on how the site computes the result based from the User/Client Seed, Server Seed and Nounce; it needs to be understandable for a regular joe in the official link).

But repeat [1].
Hopefully, it will be implemented in the next release since some people prefer Probably Fair casinos over RNG ones.

[theskillzdatklls]

Okay, we have a Provably Fair implementation that will be made more obvious soon enough on the next patch, let me know if this works for you guys in the short run:

Dice
Slots
Plinko

Presently these links are only found in our FAQ specific to any game.

[1] Currently, it will not work since the Server Seed of the previous bets are displayed as "currently active" as I've said above;
and the next bet's CS, SS Hash and Nounce aren't displayed, if the next bet's info aren't displayed before hitting "roll", it defeats the purpose of Provably fair since the site can just put a random result later in the bet lookup page.

Those links (I've already visited it since my 1st reply) works as the temporary link to the "Algorithm" for technical users.
(It's the explaination on how the site computes the result based from the User/Client Seed, Server Seed and Nounce; it needs to be understandable for a regular joe in the official link).

But repeat [1].
Hopefully, it will be implemented in the next release since some people prefer Probably Fair casinos over RNG ones.

Ok, again, I apologize and I'm not an extremely technical person but I'm pretty sure this will be resolved sooner than later as I've made sure the devs are well aware of the issue. Hopefully within the week. Thanks again.

[adaseb]

Update, the withdrawal went though and has now been sent to pending.
I did a 500x hit on the slots.

I guess mintdice is processing all the transactions manually,so worth to wait for that 500x reward.Picking up the high priority fee will make things much faster!

I think manually is a common concept in casinos, there has been a lot of people who have abused the automatic system with the double spending method of nonconfirmation with zero fee etc etc which goes back to the sender because the fee is not enough and it is not getting picked up by the blocks.

It means if casinos let the automated withdraw work, they would see the money coming in and then they would credit the gambler and if they lose they get their money back anyway, if they win they both get their money back plus the wins. Hence the automated system doesn't really work anymore, maybe if the confirmation process takes longer, like takes 3 confirmations to get credits but that would mean gambler can't gamble right away and their gambling hype may die.

What you're describing is called double spending.
It can happen if a blockchain forks/splits into two chains for a little time before one of the two chains becomes invalid, usually because an entity takes over 50% of the consensus of the network.

This is something every unlikely to happen with Bitcoin.

Also if a transaction is canceled because it was sent with too low fees, then it has never been confirmed and there's no reason any company would credit you the amount of an unconfirmed transaction.

No this is not called double spending , this is called a 51% attack and that's not possible these days. And if it actually was possible then the hackers wouldn't target casinos but exchanges instead. There would be a lot more money at stake then. They would just do a chain reorg and they would short the futures market and watch the price plunge.

What he is talking about is simply sending a transaction and sending another one right after with a much larger fee and to a different address. So they would make a deposit, and if it's 0 confirms they would bet the entire balance very fast and if they won they would do nothing. And if they lost they would double spend that input to their own address. I don't know if it works these days even because most nodes reject those transactions but casinos were attacked this way in the past.

The 0 confirmation is basically a marketing tactic so if a gambler loses all their BTC and they are on the tilt to revenge gamble then chances are they will if the deposit is confirmed fast, if it takes a few hours to confirm they might get bored and stop gambling and stop losing money. If it comes right away they will gamble it instantly and might lose it also.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

What he is talking about is simply sending a transaction and sending another one right after with a much larger fee and to a different address. So they would make a deposit, and if it's 0 confirms they would bet the entire balance very fast and if they won they would do nothing. And if they lost they would double spend that input to their own address. I don't know if it works these days even because most nodes reject those transactions but casinos were attacked this way in the past.

The 0 confirmation is basically a marketing tactic so if a gambler loses all their BTC and they are on the tilt to revenge gamble then chances are they will if the deposit is confirmed fast, if it takes a few hours to confirm they might get bored and stop gambling and stop losing money. If it comes right away they will gamble it instantly and might lose it also.

I don't know why you are all discuss this nonsense. Casino will never accept deposit with 0 confirmation! They are not gamblers. They are earning on gamblers.

Any cryptocurrency deposit requires:

    1️⃣Confirmation before you can play or invest
   2️⃣Confirmations before you can withdraw.

From mintdice FAQ

[zhekinsp]

What he is talking about is simply sending a transaction and sending another one right after with a much larger fee and to a different address. So they would make a deposit, and if it's 0 confirms they would bet the entire balance very fast and if they won they would do nothing. And if they lost they would double spend that input to their own address. I don't know if it works these days even because most nodes reject those transactions but casinos were attacked this way in the past.

The 0 confirmation is basically a marketing tactic so if a gambler loses all their BTC and they are on the tilt to revenge gamble then chances are they will if the deposit is confirmed fast, if it takes a few hours to confirm they might get bored and stop gambling and stop losing money. If it comes right away they will gamble it instantly and might lose it also.

I don't know why you are all discuss this nonsense. Casino will never accept deposit with 0 confirmation! They are not gamblers. They are earning on gamblers.

Any cryptocurrency deposit requires:

    1️⃣Confirmation before you can play or invest
   2️⃣Confirmations before you can withdraw.

From mintdice FAQ

I think he is talking about the casinos with instant deposit feature,correct me if I am wrong.Double spending tricks can be used by scammers to cheat on these site!

[n0ne]

What he is talking about is simply sending a transaction and sending another one right after with a much larger fee and to a different address. So they would make a deposit, and if it's 0 confirms they would bet the entire balance very fast and if they won they would do nothing. And if they lost they would double spend that input to their own address. I don't know if it works these days even because most nodes reject those transactions but casinos were attacked this way in the past.

The 0 confirmation is basically a marketing tactic so if a gambler loses all their BTC and they are on the tilt to revenge gamble then chances are they will if the deposit is confirmed fast, if it takes a few hours to confirm they might get bored and stop gambling and stop losing money. If it comes right away they will gamble it instantly and might lose it also.

I don't know why you are all discuss this nonsense. Casino will never accept deposit with 0 confirmation! They are not gamblers. They are earning on gamblers.

Any cryptocurrency deposit requires:

    1️⃣Confirmation before you can play or invest
   2️⃣Confirmations before you can withdraw.

From mintdice FAQ

I think he is talking about the casinos with instant deposit feature,correct me if I am wrong.Double spending tricks can be used by scammers to cheat on these site!

Maybe, but going through MintDice it is perfect on deposit and withdrawal. I found the website is little heavy to use on mobile phone. When we use on computer it works perfect, for mobile it needs to be made little lighter which will make the user experience of the website better.

[shoreno]

What he is talking about is simply sending a transaction and sending another one right after with a much larger fee and to a different address. So they would make a deposit, and if it's 0 confirms they would bet the entire balance very fast and if they won they would do nothing. And if they lost they would double spend that input to their own address. I don't know if it works these days even because most nodes reject those transactions but casinos were attacked this way in the past.

The 0 confirmation is basically a marketing tactic so if a gambler loses all their BTC and they are on the tilt to revenge gamble then chances are they will if the deposit is confirmed fast, if it takes a few hours to confirm they might get bored and stop gambling and stop losing money. If it comes right away they will gamble it instantly and might lose it also.

I don't know why you are all discuss this nonsense. Casino will never accept deposit with 0 confirmation! They are not gamblers. They are earning on gamblers.

Any cryptocurrency deposit requires:

    1️⃣Confirmation before you can play or invest
   2️⃣Confirmations before you can withdraw.

From mintdice FAQ

I think he is talking about the casinos with instant deposit feature,correct me if I am wrong.Double spending tricks can be used by scammers to cheat on these site!

Maybe, but going through MintDice it is perfect on deposit and withdrawal. I found the website is little heavy to use on mobile phone. When we use on computer it works perfect, for mobile it needs to be made little lighter which will make the user experience of the website better.

maybe the issue was already fixed ? you know there are also active costumer support that listen and responds to the concern of thier costumers , and also not all users are experiencing the same problem because sometimes there will be delays when procesing a deposit on withdrawals based on the price or on the status of the crypto market . about your mobile problem  , maybe you only have a slow connection or your mobile phone do only have a low quality spec  . on what mobile device  your browsing the site ? i mean its brand name  or unit model

[n0ne]

What he is talking about is simply sending a transaction and sending another one right after with a much larger fee and to a different address. So they would make a deposit, and if it's 0 confirms they would bet the entire balance very fast and if they won they would do nothing. And if they lost they would double spend that input to their own address. I don't know if it works these days even because most nodes reject those transactions but casinos were attacked this way in the past.

The 0 confirmation is basically a marketing tactic so if a gambler loses all their BTC and they are on the tilt to revenge gamble then chances are they will if the deposit is confirmed fast, if it takes a few hours to confirm they might get bored and stop gambling and stop losing money. If it comes right away they will gamble it instantly and might lose it also.

I don't know why you are all discuss this nonsense. Casino will never accept deposit with 0 confirmation! They are not gamblers. They are earning on gamblers.

Any cryptocurrency deposit requires:

    1️⃣Confirmation before you can play or invest
   2️⃣Confirmations before you can withdraw.

From mintdice FAQ

I think he is talking about the casinos with instant deposit feature,correct me if I am wrong.Double spending tricks can be used by scammers to cheat on these site!

Maybe, but going through MintDice it is perfect on deposit and withdrawal. I found the website is little heavy to use on mobile phone. When we use on computer it works perfect, for mobile it needs to be made little lighter which will make the user experience of the website better.

maybe the issue was already fixed ? you know there are also active costumer support that listen and responds to the concern of thier costumers , and also not all users are experiencing the same problem because sometimes there will be delays when procesing a deposit on withdrawals based on the price or on the status of the crypto market . about your mobile problem  , maybe you only have a slow connection or your mobile phone do only have a low quality spec  . on what mobile device  your browsing the site ? i mean its brand name  or unit model

Agreed, I haven't thought about it. Now only realized what you've mentioned. The mobile phone I've been using is a low configuration as well as the range won't be good all the time which seems to be the reason for experiencing such an issue while using it on mobile. Let me try with some of my friends mobile and confirm whether things were happening good with other mobile phones of high configuration.