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November 27, 2019, 04:03:58 PM
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Maybe signature campaigns are just "that" and nothing more. It only makes people remember you exist and that is how you stay afloat. When you do signature campaign and get new people that is good but when you stop it that means you are leaking customers, there will be more people going out compared to coming it.

However, when you keep doing signature campaigns that may equal to actually making people comeback as well, they might have left for any reason at all and eventually after gambling in other places as well they might think "maybe I should give it another chance" and comeback. Signature campaigns basically keep making see your name over and over again and when you have like a contest or a promotion etc you could showcase that which would make them comeback even faster.

At the moment the signature campaign of mintdice is just to make people aware about the site like what you think.
I think I have suggested them to do something more to accompany the signature campaign so it will be more effective but seems that their main focus for now is to improve the site only.
It is indeed good if the site keeps on improving the site but I think it is better if they can offer something attractive for players that makes players stay and play on the site.

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November 27, 2019, 04:14:56 PM
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Maybe signature campaigns are just "that" and nothing more. It only makes people remember you exist and that is how you stay afloat. When you do signature campaign and get new people that is good but when you stop it that means you are leaking customers, there will be more people going out compared to coming it.
It is long lasting signature campaigns have better, bigger and much longer impacts for companies. Unfortunately, there are limited companies have enough resources to do this (in orders):
  • Having initial significant funds to run campaigns in a fixed long period (as their initial plans and first round of their campaigns)
  • Choosing good managers to manager their campaigns (by screening among applicants to choose the best ones and wiping out shitposters within active period of campaigns, rejecting payments for shitposts)
  • Reusing profits (if there are) from campaigns to prolong their campaigns (much longer than initial plans)
  • Being open-minded to community suggestions and improving platforms to attract more users
  • Repeating the cycle

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November 27, 2019, 04:54:06 PM
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Of course, signature campaigns are a very good way to advertise a project. The project immediatly gets known to hundreds and thousands of users, but those users are already into crypto and already may know that there are gambling sites which let you gamble with your cryptos.

The main problem is that this potential userbase is currently finite due to the fact that there are not that many new people registering per day compared to eg. 2017. So if a site wants to attract a whole new userbase marketingefforts have to be extended out of the span of this forum, too, in my opinion.  
Sometimes I consider if signature campaigns are as great as everyone believes it is. We have been doing signature campaigns for over 5 years as a forum now, and people continue to do it as well which tells me if it didn't worked they wouldn't do it neither.
It does make sense. Signature campaign provides wide awareness on the people especially here in the forum. Not only gambling sites should extend their reach but mostly, they need to surpass their competitors. Marketing is just part of being known, what is more important for these websites is what they features to be known.


But, as soon as a company or a website gets big enough they stop doing it, so it may not really be great for a place that already has a lot of people but might only work for places that are new and want to get their name heard. It is not sustainable forever if you ask me, if it was we would see places that are 5+ years old still doing signature campaigns but not many of them exists. So, all places that are under 1 or 2 years are doing it to keep their names up and "public awareness" is the only true reason for it.
Again the competition for gambling platforms is growing, they should not be too confident just because they have a lot of players at the present. I agree, signature for old websites should still be running up til now if they want to approach the new users and potential players . I guess these gambling platforms find Signature campaign too expensive to sustain for so long just to keep their website awareness, some are pausing their signature and re-opens when they noticed a substantial number of player they have.

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November 28, 2019, 05:01:23 AM
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As far as I know Bitpay only does Crypto to Fiat and not Fiat to Crypto. They basically give you a code you add to your website and it shows the user a QR code and they send Crypto, it automatically converts to Fiat and that fiat is later sent to the company by a wire transfer or direct transfer.

Going Fiat to Crypto is more difficult due to many reasons such as security and laundering laws. This is why many exchanges require KYC. Without KYC is difficult unless the person wants to go to some Bitcoin ATM. But another reason why is because credit card fraud is easy and Crypto is not reversible. This is the main reason why it would be too easy for some hacker to deposit Fiat by Credit card, get Crypto, withdraw Crypto and the charge would get reversed a few days later. Who would be liable.

Hence this forum or maybe some Crypto gambling telegrams or discord is the only way to effectively advertise to seek this niche audience.

Yup. Bitpay is a Bitcoin payment processor,,, meaning to say they process bitcoin payments to merchants on their behalf. You pay crypto, (I think now it is BTC and BCH) and they merchant only gets fiat from BitPay.

It is not merely I think not more difficult to accept fiat to crypto, it is actually not possible at the moment!

Yes actually going the other way is a lot more difficult than just converting crypto to Fiat. You need to understand that Bitcoin is permissionless and non reversible compared to regular modern payment methods.

If someone tries to buy something with crypto and they get scammed, they can't reverse the transaction. With a credit card you can. So it would become very easy to buy some bitcoins and then just call your credit card company and get it to reverse the transaction. And the merchant would be at fault here. Basically the one who sold the BTC and sent it to the gambler, which would be Mintdice in this situation. And they would have to bear the entire loss.

Hence this is why all exchanges with fiat on ramps require KYC so they know the transfer won't get reversed. So doing this with a casino is just not possible at the moment.

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November 28, 2019, 06:27:45 AM
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Maybe signature campaigns are just "that" and nothing more. It only makes people remember you exist and that is how you stay afloat. When you do signature campaign and get new people that is good but when you stop it that means you are leaking customers, there will be more people going out compared to coming it.

That is what all advertising is about at the end of the day. If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.

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November 28, 2019, 06:23:49 PM
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I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?
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November 29, 2019, 12:16:00 PM
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As far as I know Bitpay only does Crypto to Fiat and not Fiat to Crypto. They basically give you a code you add to your website and it shows the user a QR code and they send Crypto, it automatically converts to Fiat and that fiat is later sent to the company by a wire transfer or direct transfer.

Going Fiat to Crypto is more difficult due to many reasons such as security and laundering laws. This is why many exchanges require KYC. Without KYC is difficult unless the person wants to go to some Bitcoin ATM. But another reason why is because credit card fraud is easy and Crypto is not reversible. This is the main reason why it would be too easy for some hacker to deposit Fiat by Credit card, get Crypto, withdraw Crypto and the charge would get reversed a few days later. Who would be liable.

Hence this forum or maybe some Crypto gambling telegrams or discord is the only way to effectively advertise to seek this niche audience.

Yup. Bitpay is a Bitcoin payment processor,,, meaning to say they process bitcoin payments to merchants on their behalf. You pay crypto, (I think now it is BTC and BCH) and they merchant only gets fiat from BitPay.

It is not merely I think not more difficult to accept fiat to crypto, it is actually not possible at the moment!
Bitpay may not be doing that but coinbase could do that maybe? I mean finding a third party for a casino to have a fiat to crypto is quite hard but at the end you could maybe at least talk with other operators to maybe deal with something like that. You gotta realize if you do something like this you would be the first casino that has a connection with an exchange and that would be insane.

I am not saying casino should do it, there is no way of that, I am just saying there are websites that allows you to buy bitcoin with fiat in the end, so all you gotta do is have a partnership with that website where the money they sent is directly sent to this casino, exchange still makes money from the fee and you get a customer that paid fiat to have a bankroll here.

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November 29, 2019, 12:34:58 PM
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I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?


What browser did you use and how about your internet connection? I play here every weekend and I cant say that it is heavy to load, I can access it just like I access other sites. I guess it was because your internet connection which is not stable, as I experienced the same when my internet connection is not good but when my connection is good enough then I can load all games fast. Anyway welcome to Mintdice, you can also ask about it through the chatroom, admin is usually there so he can help you if the problem still exist. 

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November 29, 2019, 01:49:49 PM
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What browser did you use and how about your internet connection? I play here every weekend and I cant say that it is heavy to load, I can access it just like I access other sites. I guess it was because your internet connection which is not stable, as I experienced the same when my internet connection is not good but when my connection is good enough then I can load all games fast. Anyway welcome to Mintdice, you can also ask about it through the chatroom, admin is usually there so he can help you if the problem still exist. 
If it is not the MintDice site's problems (that I don't think it is either), there are some most likely reasons:
- Internet connection (unstable and disconnected sometimes).
- Devices overloaded (after long operating time, ie.)
Because if it was the MintDice's problem, I think more gamblers most likely complained about that.
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November 29, 2019, 04:24:19 PM
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I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?

I felt the same thing when I started using mintdice then realize that it was due to their animation effects and especially sounds, try to do the same thing after disable sounds then you may feel slightly faster game experience.
Hello .  Please tell me, and if I use my referral link and attract new users to your resource, then what bonuses can I use due to such actions?  I apologize for the possibly stupid question, but I'm still just studying your resource.
I read somewhere that mintdice signature campaign participants are not allowed to use referral links so if you are a part of campaign you should not do this or you willingly to wear mintdice signature with your referral link then you have possibility to earn depends on their bet amount which house takes.

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November 30, 2019, 07:59:47 PM
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If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.
Mintdice or any crypto casino is not a coca cola level tho? I mean coca cola is basically all around the world and even people who do not drink it knows its existence and that is what matters when you make a marketing for a company as big as that, you just want to keep reminding people that you exist and that's it.

If coca cola stopped advertising today they still would sell and yes in couple generations at max people would move to other places, yet when it comes to mintdice or any place, even the big ships like stake, if stopped and not doing anything they may end up losing their customers much MUCH faster, inside one generation, WE would move to other places. So I am not entirely sure if signature campaign is the best way to go about marketing or not.
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If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.
Mintdice or any crypto casino is not a coca cola level tho? I mean coca cola is basically all around the world and even people who do not drink it knows its existence and that is what matters when you make a marketing for a company as big as that, you just want to keep reminding people that you exist and that's it.

If coca cola stopped advertising today they still would sell and yes in couple generations at max people would move to other places, yet when it comes to mintdice or any place, even the big ships like stake, if stopped and not doing anything they may end up losing their customers much MUCH faster, inside one generation, WE would move to other places. So I am not entirely sure if signature campaign is the best way to go about marketing or not.


Yes sure it is not apple to apple comparison but in case of marketing strategies then I can say that the marketing strategy of well known product like coca cola, samsung, etc which is good to be used example. They knows that they are big brand already but they still do many marketing and advertising because it is good for the product as part of competition to other similar product. Surely big brand product may lose their customers if they stop advertising while other brands are doing big advertising regularly. In this case, signature campaign is just a way of many other marketing ways so mintdice should also consider other marketing strategies.

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Yes sure it is not apple to apple comparison but in case of marketing strategies then I can say that the marketing strategy of well known product like coca cola, samsung, etc which is good to be used example. They knows that they are big brand already but they still do many marketing and advertising because it is good for the product as part of competition to other similar product. Surely big brand product may lose their customers if they stop advertising while other brands are doing big advertising regularly. In this case, signature campaign is just a way of many other marketing ways so mintdice should also consider other marketing strategies.
Yes, but it is also a bad example because one is trying to do marketing to stay alive so that people don't forget them, coca cola or whatever makes advertisements to be remembered.

Mintdice or any other casino is not doing marketing to be remembered, they are doing it to be known, those are two veeeeery different things. The thing is mintdice is doing signature campaign to be known, not to be remembered and keep it in peoples minds, coca cola is already known, when they do advertisement they are doing it to people who already drink coca cola.

I still agree signature campaign is also decent in both aspects, both a very very well known casino and also have customers in hundreds yet they do marketing whereas mintdice is not like that but do the same marketing, so signature campaign is working for both of that.
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December 03, 2019, 03:46:38 AM
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I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?


Our performance times are not the best overall, it's part of a major 2.0 version we are trying to release around March/April 2020. That will solve many issues, ideally including performance problems.

As for why this is a thing, we are trying to make very high quality provably fair games which is a very difficult task to do, because among other issues, you may run into high load issues. With enough talent, resources and time we can eventually solve this issue.


Hello .  Please tell me, and if I use my referral link and attract new users to your resource, then what bonuses can I use due to such actions?  I apologize for the possibly stupid question, but I'm still just studying your resource.

You will receive risk free commissions on all gambling bets that your new users make. The more money they bet, the more money that we automatically will credit to your account. If you plan on advertising us on a website domain that you own, you can send me a direct message and I can try to set you up with a better deal depending on the quality of your website.


I want to ask about this Mintdice gambling platform, here I am trying to register and already have an account on this Mintdice platform, just why when I first entered the game it felt heavy like loading and in my opinion it's not good. not like gambling platforms in general. is the mintdice team giving an explanation about this?

I felt the same thing when I started using mintdice then realize that it was due to their animation effects and especially sounds, try to do the same thing after disable sounds then you may feel slightly faster game experience.
Hello .  Please tell me, and if I use my referral link and attract new users to your resource, then what bonuses can I use due to such actions?  I apologize for the possibly stupid question, but I'm still just studying your resource.
I read somewhere that mintdice signature campaign participants are not allowed to use referral links so if you are a part of campaign you should not do this or you willingly to wear mintdice signature with your referral link then you have possibility to earn depends on their bet amount which house takes.

Disabling animations/sounds is one good way of solving the loading issue... All depends on what type of gaming experience you are going for or what your device can handle.

If you are participating in the signature campaign, you are not allowed to use a referral link. If you are not part of the referral campaign, you are welcome to use our signature and our referral link and try to generate revenue for yourself that way Smiley




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December 03, 2019, 06:53:38 AM
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If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.
Mintdice or any crypto casino is not a coca cola level tho? I mean coca cola is basically all around the world and even people who do not drink it knows its existence and that is what matters when you make a marketing for a company as big as that, you just want to keep reminding people that you exist and that's it.

If coca cola stopped advertising today they still would sell and yes in couple generations at max people would move to other places, yet when it comes to mintdice or any place, even the big ships like stake, if stopped and not doing anything they may end up losing their customers much MUCH faster, inside one generation, WE would move to other places. So I am not entirely sure if signature campaign is the best way to go about marketing or not.


I just said that they are a first mover and well established brand, and yet even they have to keep advertising. You should read what people write in full. If a first mover like Coca Cola has to remind people they are around by advertising constantly,,, then of course it means that advertising still has its importance, and what more for a brand that is trying to make a name for itself.

If you do not think signature campaign works, try to think what are the campaigns you recognize most in the forum. And ask how you came to know about all these new sites from the forum:)

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December 03, 2019, 07:05:12 AM
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If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.
Mintdice or any crypto casino is not a coca cola level tho? I mean coca cola is basically all around the world and even people who do not drink it knows its existence and that is what matters when you make a marketing for a company as big as that, you just want to keep reminding people that you exist and that's it.

If coca cola stopped advertising today they still would sell and yes in couple generations at max people would move to other places, yet when it comes to mintdice or any place, even the big ships like stake, if stopped and not doing anything they may end up losing their customers much MUCH faster, inside one generation, WE would move to other places. So I am not entirely sure if signature campaign is the best way to go about marketing or not.


Yes sure it is not apple to apple comparison but in case of marketing strategies then I can say that the marketing strategy of well known product like coca cola, samsung, etc which is good to be used example. They knows that they are big brand already but they still do many marketing and advertising because it is good for the product as part of competition to other similar product. Surely big brand product may lose their customers if they stop advertising while other brands are doing big advertising regularly. In this case, signature campaign is just a way of many other marketing ways so mintdice should also consider other marketing strategies.

This is actually not true. There are many brands out there that are very successful and they almost never advertise. A few I can think of is the car brand Rolls Royce and maybe that Donut place called Krispy Kreme. Their general way of advertisement is pretty much word of mouth .

So thats why some very successful and old bitcoin casinos like Primedice don't really need to advertise that much because everybody knows about PD pretty much from word of mouth.

Another example can be Bitcoin itself. You generally never see advertisements for it. You see advertisements for altcoins or bitcoin exchanges or wallets but Bitcoin is almost never advertised.

MintDice is different because its fairly new and if they build a customer base then in a few years they can get away without advertising and just rely on word of mouth, however since they are starting out then should invest some in marketing.

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December 03, 2019, 07:23:22 AM
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If Coca cola stopped promoting and making advertisement,,, people will not forget them rightaway but eventually, after a generation is gone, or two generations, people will forget. And that is for a brand that is a first mover and well established.

At the same time, you have to also make sure the participants are of high quality,,, otherwise you get associated with spammers and that is not good for any brand. In gambling? Especially not good.
Mintdice or any crypto casino is not a coca cola level tho? I mean coca cola is basically all around the world and even people who do not drink it knows its existence and that is what matters when you make a marketing for a company as big as that, you just want to keep reminding people that you exist and that's it.

If coca cola stopped advertising today they still would sell and yes in couple generations at max people would move to other places, yet when it comes to mintdice or any place, even the big ships like stake, if stopped and not doing anything they may end up losing their customers much MUCH faster, inside one generation, WE would move to other places. So I am not entirely sure if signature campaign is the best way to go about marketing or not.


Yes sure it is not apple to apple comparison but in case of marketing strategies then I can say that the marketing strategy of well known product like coca cola, samsung, etc which is good to be used example. They knows that they are big brand already but they still do many marketing and advertising because it is good for the product as part of competition to other similar product. Surely big brand product may lose their customers if they stop advertising while other brands are doing big advertising regularly. In this case, signature campaign is just a way of many other marketing ways so mintdice should also consider other marketing strategies.

This is actually not true. There are many brands out there that are very successful and they almost never advertise. A few I can think of is the car brand Rolls Royce and maybe that Donut place called Krispy Kreme. Their general way of advertisement is pretty much word of mouth .

So thats why some very successful and old bitcoin casinos like Primedice don't really need to advertise that much because everybody knows about PD pretty much from word of mouth.

Another example can be Bitcoin itself. You generally never see advertisements for it. You see advertisements for altcoins or bitcoin exchanges or wallets but Bitcoin is almost never advertised.

MintDice is different because its fairly new and if they build a customer base then in a few years they can get away without advertising and just rely on word of mouth, however since they are starting out then should invest some in marketing.

Generally speaking adaseb I agree with what you have said, I think it is always the best solution to minimize advertising when possible and spend that time and money instead on developing a superior product. Doing so just has more overall benefits to everyone. But to some extent, no marketing is nearly impossible as you've noted.

Part of the idealistic vision is to have very compelling games that speak/advertise for themselves among users, news outlets and communities. It's also a reason we like the idea of having an investment bankroll; so that investors have a reason to want to help advertise and promote MintDice as well.

But that said, as a newer site, if we don't spread awareness with some form of marketing, people will have a hard time even knowing we exist.




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But that said, as a newer site, if we don't spread awareness with some form of marketing, people will have a hard time even knowing we exist.
the times are different.. some products do not need to advertise at this time are products that have been around for a long time (average over 20 years).  I totally agree with @theskillzdatklls if they don't do advertising/marketing then most likely people will not know the existence of this gambling site because this site is still relatively new.

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