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December 16, 2019, 09:33:14 PM
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Hi I am just wondering when would this gambling site be mobile friendly or be available to be open via mobile phones?
This could affect your site since not all of the gamblers are playing on their computer there are some who likes to play on their mobile device.
Maybe fixing this could also gain some new gamblers to the site.
So far only dice available to played using mobile phone and indeed some of people mobile gamblers including me that sometimes i was gambling use my mobile phone and by available for mobile version i think it can increase the players to playing at mindice too so i wish the owners will considering this and will added this as soon as possible


I believe it has been suggested since months ago, but seems that the dev is still busy to work on something else.
Mobile version is a must nowadays as many players like to play with their smartphone including me.
So it should be one of the priority to do list.
2019 is getting close to its end, I wonder what will Mintdice on the beginning of the new year. Will be there something like great updates on the site? Or great promotions?
So far, Mintdice is the only site that has signature campaign but lack of promotions. It is unfortunate if you ask me.

A lot of our expected development timelines went completely astray for various reasons. Suffice to say, this made creating promotions an afterthought.

I have to say this doesn't mean anything is wrong the site, our development is progressing just fine but not in the way we initially anticipated that it would.

Hopefully when we can release the 2.0 and new games, we can also do promotions and sparks will fly... Smiley


You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/
For security reasons mintdice process the withdrawals manually which has the positive side also other than the waiting time.But from my experience I never waited more than 30 minutes for my withdrawal to get processed.So its not happens always sometimes there will be a delay.
Of course it shows, you guys have been one of the most active ones replying to customers and that is one of the most important ones.

Look at all the other big ones, I don't want to name their names but seriously there is like lets say 10 websites that are HUGE in crypto casino world, look at their topics right now, hell read the last 10 pages of all of them, you will see that they either don't have anyone that is talking with the customers or they don't have anyone at all.

There is usually one account that comes in and posts marketing related stuff and leaves without ever talking to people which is the most common version, I don't know why they think that is enough or that is any different from not having anything at all because it is not working, or they have nobody to begin with. You come here and seriously "chat" with people and that is very very very rare.

Hey, thanks a lot, I'm glad to hear the positive feedback. As I've said before, I personally take any positive or negative feedback in this forum thread rather seriously and since we're developing for the long term, I and others are actively watching this thread to stay involved with the community here.


You would think a site this big and nice would not have manual withdrawals but it does! Gotta wait up to 24 hours but I’m sure it won’t take that long. I’ve only been waiting for around 3.5 hours so far. :/
For security reasons mintdice process the withdrawals manually which has the positive side also other than the waiting time.But from my experience I never waited more than 30 minutes for my withdrawal to get processed.So its not happens always sometimes there will be a delay.
Of course it shows, you guys have been one of the most active ones replying to customers and that is one of the most important ones.

Look at all the other big ones, I don't want to name their names but seriously there is like lets say 10 websites that are HUGE in crypto casino world, look at their topics right now, hell read the last 10 pages of all of them, you will see that they either don't have anyone that is talking with the customers or they don't have anyone at all.

There is usually one account that comes in and posts marketing related stuff and leaves without ever talking to people which is the most common version, I don't know why they think that is enough or that is any different from not having anything at all because it is not working, or they have nobody to begin with. You come here and seriously "chat" with people and that is very very very rare.

I think other threads don't show the same level of customer responses here due to the fact that these are taken up in different medias like Telegram etc. In my experience, when having trouble with one particular casino I found that the best was to reach them for support was either via Telegram or via their support chat rooms on the websites but not often here directly as I found that my matters were dealt with in a relatively speedy manner. So I never had to post on here for example but I understand that there might be people on here who are not aware that they can contact these people in many different ways - I suppose its a good reminder

We have a Telegram chat open but it seems to get very little use in general and is flooded with spam bots and salespeople. If there were more dialogue there I'd be happy to communicate there as well. But I think it's important to stay in touch as I just said earlier and BitcoinTalk seems to simply have the best platform for the time being.




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December 17, 2019, 07:25:55 PM
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Look at all the other big ones, I don't want to name their names but seriously there is like lets say 10 websites that are HUGE in crypto casino world, look at their topics right now, hell read the last 10 pages of all of them, you will see that they either don't have anyone that is talking with the customers or they don't have anyone at all.
When gambling sites grow up too big they also need to get enough staffs for their customer support or they will not be on that huge level for too long.I read about one of a biggest casino ever had only one staff for withdrawal process and someone won few bitcoins there had to wait for two more days since that staff is on vacation which sounds awful right.Hope mintdice will have better customer as they do now in future also.

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December 18, 2019, 05:38:13 AM
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I feel like affiliate marketer is investing something more valuable than money, they are investing time. Time is not something you could make back, spending 20-30 hours to get more affiliates and earn money equals to your life having 20-30 less hours you didn't do something you enjoyed, if we all had millions of dollars in our bank account, not too rich to become billionaires and be super busy with stuff all the time but rich enough (like 4 million dollars in savings account, all liquid assets) to not care we would all spend our times enjoying life instead of working and do stuff we want to do instead of we have to do, so that 20-30 hours is not possible to make back.

If you invest money and lose, worst case scenario you could make it back some other way, but you can never take your time back so I feel like affiliate marketers are doing something much more important.

well , don't we all invest our most valuable asset - time into earning money and other , less important stuff  ( like actually living )
affiliate marketers at least are earning money through others , saving time eventually
like  John D. Rockefeller  once said : "I would rather earn 1% off a 100 people's efforts than 100% of my own efforts."  - can't be more true for affiliate marketers , the successful ones
because too many of them are only investing time and often money to get no profit because they didn't estimate the profit potential of an offer
 or spent too much money on a low return ad etc. , it is not an easy job and more often than not you lose out
and of course , the psychology of a billionaire is not "I earn 1 billion and then call it quits and buy an island and drink and have sex on a beach till the end of my life"
once you get the taste of big money , there is no stopping , its a dangerous game ... I wish to participate in one day  Cheesy
 
First of all affiliate marketing COULD pay from their pockets as well, it all depends on how they are doing affiliate marketing. I have done it for one place for example where I rented out banners from a website and put the banner of that casino in there with my link when clicked and I gathered a lot of people.

I didn't really worked too hard because it was simply paying one guy and sending him the banner and the link and that was it so I wasn't spending too much time there but at the same time I spent a lot of money, sure I made it back but I did spent a lot of money on there. So, affiliate marketers "could" spend money, I am not saying they will or they are but there are ones who do spend money to get your websites name out there and they are valuable assets to any casino.
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December 18, 2019, 06:19:14 AM
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I think they are confused with what an mobile app is and what a mobile web app is. Basically its difficult getting a mobile app up and running. It would need to be approved by Google and Apple and it will be difficult to get done since anything crypto related is diffult to list and same with gambling. So I wouldn't expect an actual Mintdice App found on the iOS store or Google Play.

However most gambling websites have mobile friendly versions of the website, so when the server detects that its someone trying to access the site thru a mobile browser it sends it to be a more "smaller screen" friendly page and people can easily play dice that way. It would be very difficult to play with the actual full screen where you need to zoom in and zoom out constantly. Bitcointalk forum is actually like that, there is no mobile version and it requires lots of zooming in and zooming out to browse. Its fine on an iPad but difficult if you are trying to read anything on an iPhone.

This! Never mind to develop a mobile application,,, for now the site has to grow as much as possible and gain a large userbase first, and iron out all the bugs and cosmetics on the website.

I would agree now almost any website must have coding to make it suitable for tablet and phone (meaning to say as you say,,, mobile friendly website versions).

Imagine all of us putting up with bitcointalk on phone for years! But we would not do it for mintdice I think.

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December 18, 2019, 07:43:46 AM
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Look at all the other big ones, I don't want to name their names but seriously there is like lets say 10 websites that are HUGE in crypto casino world, look at their topics right now, hell read the last 10 pages of all of them, you will see that they either don't have anyone that is talking with the customers or they don't have anyone at all.
When gambling sites grow up too big they also need to get enough staffs for their customer support or they will not be on that huge level for too long.I read about one of a biggest casino ever had only one staff for withdrawal process and someone won few bitcoins there had to wait for two more days since that staff is on vacation which sounds awful right.Hope mintdice will have better customer as they do now in future also.

Mintdice is stil in the early process of growing up, it is not easy to grow up with the competition among online casinos these days but I believe there will be a time when Mintdice become one of the most popular crypto casinos in the future. Mintdice devs works on its development and any other improvements, so lets just wait and support them by at least come to the site and play for a while although using the free faucet only.

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December 18, 2019, 08:32:27 AM
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I believe it has been suggested since months ago, but seems that the dev is still busy to work on something else.
Mobile version is a must nowadays as many players like to play with their smartphone including me.
Well, I assume that both of you assuming to have an apps version. Most android phones as of now can access the website through chrome or what browser you have on your phone. Indeed, I think the mobile app version is not necessary and probably it will happen but not now.
Or there is something must be prior to developing than the mobile version.

I think they are confused with what an mobile app is and what a mobile web app is. Basically its difficult getting a mobile app up and running. It would need to be approved by Google and Apple and it will be difficult to get done since anything crypto related is diffult to list and same with gambling. So I wouldn't expect an actual Mintdice App found on the iOS store or Google Play.

However most gambling websites have mobile friendly versions of the website, so when the server detects that its someone trying to access the site thru a mobile browser it sends it to be a more "smaller screen" friendly page and people can easily play dice that way. It would be very difficult to play with the actual full screen where you need to zoom in and zoom out constantly. Bitcointalk forum is actually like that, there is no mobile version and it requires lots of zooming in and zooming out to browse. Its fine on an iPad but difficult if you are trying to read anything on an iPhone.
I am not a developer myself but I worked in a digital agency close to developers and I have seen them work before, they always said 90% of the job is done in 10% of the time and the rest of 10% of the job is done in 90% of the time. It is actually a lot harder than it looks to totally revamp a website from the scratch and it takes a lot of time and effort.

Actually coding the website from the start is not the part that takes time, it is the bugs that happen along the way and fixing them is the biggest hurdle. They talked about how they are doing many new things to the website before and I am pretty sure they have done most of the work itself but in order to publish it they need to make sure everything works perfectly without any trouble and that is one tricky pony I can tell you that. Giving enough time and patience they will have a great new one, we just gotta wait.
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December 18, 2019, 08:07:41 PM
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First of all affiliate marketing COULD pay from their pockets as well, it all depends on how they are doing affiliate marketing. I have done it for one place for example where I rented out banners from a website and put the banner of that casino in there with my link when clicked and I gathered a lot of people.

I didn't really worked too hard because it was simply paying one guy and sending him the banner and the link and that was it so I wasn't spending too much time there but at the same time I spent a lot of money, sure I made it back but I did spent a lot of money on there. So, affiliate marketers "could" spend money, I am not saying they will or they are but there are ones who do spend money to get your websites name out there and they are valuable assets to any casino.

In my experience, this is far from the norm. Of course I'd be delighted if anyone were to do this. As I've mentioned before, if anyone has a website/domain they want to do affiliate marketing on, you can drop me a message and I can give you a better deal on an affiliate link depending on the quality of domain you own or advertise on.


I am not a developer myself but I worked in a digital agency close to developers and I have seen them work before, they always said 90% of the job is done in 10% of the time and the rest of 10% of the job is done in 90% of the time. It is actually a lot harder than it looks to totally revamp a website from the scratch and it takes a lot of time and effort.

Actually coding the website from the start is not the part that takes time, it is the bugs that happen along the way and fixing them is the biggest hurdle. They talked about how they are doing many new things to the website before and I am pretty sure they have done most of the work itself but in order to publish it they need to make sure everything works perfectly without any trouble and that is one tricky pony I can tell you that. Giving enough time and patience they will have a great new one, we just gotta wait.

That's fairly accurate. This is also why timelines are so bad. You think you are close to done so you release a date but things in fact take world's longer than you thought.

All I can say, as I've said, is that a lot of progress is being made so eventually it'll all come to fruition.




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December 18, 2019, 10:09:56 PM
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I believe it has been suggested since months ago, but seems that the dev is still busy to work on something else.
Mobile version is a must nowadays as many players like to play with their smartphone including me.
Well, I assume that both of you assuming to have an apps version. Most android phones as of now can access the website through chrome or what browser you have on your phone. Indeed, I think the mobile app version is not necessary and probably it will happen but not now.
Or there is something must be prior to developing than the mobile version.

I think they are confused with what an mobile app is and what a mobile web app is. Basically its difficult getting a mobile app up and running. It would need to be approved by Google and Apple and it will be difficult to get done since anything crypto related is diffult to list and same with gambling. So I wouldn't expect an actual Mintdice App found on the iOS store or Google Play.

However most gambling websites have mobile friendly versions of the website, so when the server detects that its someone trying to access the site thru a mobile browser it sends it to be a more "smaller screen" friendly page and people can easily play dice that way. It would be very difficult to play with the actual full screen where you need to zoom in and zoom out constantly. Bitcointalk forum is actually like that, there is no mobile version and it requires lots of zooming in and zooming out to browse. Its fine on an iPad but difficult if you are trying to read anything on an iPhone.
You got the point but it would be better to have their own app but as said it wont really be that simple and it would takes time.
You've just said about mobile version which is already available on most gambling sites nowadays and yes, its quite hassle to have that
entire full webpage scrolling and zooming in and out. Mintdice team is surely making up some progress on making this site way more better.
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You got the point but it would be better to have their own app but as said it wont really be that simple and it would takes time.
You've just said about mobile version which is already available on most gambling sites nowadays and yes, its quite hassle to have that
entire full webpage scrolling and zooming in and out. Mintdice team is surely making up some progress on making this site way more better.

Mobile web is coming first, and then development from there can progress into an app relatively easily. So that's definitely possible, but that would be a while longer. The mobile web design that is coming out should be quite good though.




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You got the point but it would be better to have their own app but as said it wont really be that simple and it would takes time.
You've just said about mobile version which is already available on most gambling sites nowadays and yes, its quite hassle to have that
entire full webpage scrolling and zooming in and out. Mintdice team is surely making up some progress on making this site way more better.

Mobile web is coming first, and then development from there can progress into an app relatively easily. So that's definitely possible, but that would be a while longer. The mobile web design that is coming out should be quite good though.
Mobile app is something really liked by the people and wanted and requested as we can see here but I feel like it could never be as much used as website itself. Website is always the most used one and I prefer it that way since it is easier to play on the website. People are forgetting that not everyone have those huge Samsung or big new Iphones, I have a very old phone and even tho I can download the app and play there the screen is too small and I have fat fingers Cheesy.

It is still something requested and there should be one just because to service those who want it but it won't suddenly change the user numbers, it won't be something like "oh we have 50 active users on average and with app we became 100" type of deal, it would be more like 50 to 60 at most if you ask me.
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Mobile web is coming first, and then development from there can progress into an app relatively easily. So that's definitely possible, but that would be a while longer. The mobile web design that is coming out should be quite good though.

In fact a new programming trend in developing for mobiles is to create website so optimized for phones that everything end user has to do is create shortcut with Websites link and place it between other apps and use it as an app. It's surprising how well some websites work and look like an app without need of downloading and installing. Thus i fully understand why you focus so much on mobile web.

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It is still something requested and there should be one just because to service those who want it but it won't suddenly change the user numbers, it won't be something like "oh we have 50 active users on average and with app we became 100" type of deal, it would be more like 50 to 60 at most if you ask me.

I think it is just something to meet the needs of the user to the fullest. You know, each customer has a different interest, while you can't prioritize one customer over the other. So it is best to meet the requirements of all. It can be difficult, but by prioritizing one request first, other requests can be made in the future. And obviously, the web version is always preferred over the mobile application.

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December 25, 2019, 02:07:58 AM
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It is still something requested and there should be one just because to service those who want it but it won't suddenly change the user numbers, it won't be something like "oh we have 50 active users on average and with app we became 100" type of deal, it would be more like 50 to 60 at most if you ask me.

I think it is just something to meet the needs of the user to the fullest. You know, each customer has a different interest, while you can't prioritize one customer over the other. So it is best to meet the requirements of all. It can be difficult, but by prioritizing one request first, other requests can be made in the future. And obviously, the web version is always preferred over the mobile application.

About half of the traffic that enters MintDice is mobile traffic. So it's definitely important. Now how important mobile traffic is relative to desktop traffic is an entirely different discussion in and of itself. But either way, it's a problem we are taking very seriously that we hope to have a good answer to as soon as we can get it all developed.




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December 25, 2019, 08:55:37 AM
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It is still something requested and there should be one just because to service those who want it but it won't suddenly change the user numbers, it won't be something like "oh we have 50 active users on average and with app we became 100" type of deal, it would be more like 50 to 60 at most if you ask me.

I think it is just something to meet the needs of the user to the fullest. You know, each customer has a different interest, while you can't prioritize one customer over the other. So it is best to meet the requirements of all. It can be difficult, but by prioritizing one request first, other requests can be made in the future. And obviously, the web version is always preferred over the mobile application.
Dont underestimate how many people use and prefer mobile to desktop versions. We made that mistake, too, with our site at the beginning. Nowadays its like 15 : 85 in favour of our mobile version, leading to the fact that we ve shifted development resources from the desktop to the mobile version.

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I remember back when I was using websites that had this one common bankroll, I don't remember the name right now but there was one website that wasn't a casino but they were basically a bankroll and there was a lot of casinos backed by that website.

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December 25, 2019, 06:10:51 PM
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I think it is just something to meet the needs of the user to the fullest. You know, each customer has a different interest, while you can't prioritize one customer over the other. So it is best to meet the requirements of all. It can be difficult, but by prioritizing one request first, other requests can be made in the future. And obviously, the web version is always preferred over the mobile application.

About half of the traffic that enters MintDice is mobile traffic. So it's definitely important. Now how important mobile traffic is relative to desktop traffic is an entirely different discussion in and of itself. But either way, it's a problem we are taking very seriously that we hope to have a good answer to as soon as we can get it all developed.
I honestly didn't know the half of the traffic came from mobile phones, if that is the case then a mobile phone app or at least the optimized to mobile version of the PC version is a very very important thing to deal with. I was thinking mobile must be something like 10% of the total visitors, not half of it. Is this the same rate for all websites?

I mean I know many of the big places don't have a proper app or a mobile version and they are bigger than mintdice (for now, mintdice keeps growing while they stay the same) and if that is the case the mobile version could help mintdice get much more people to gamble here since the other "big" places lacks the effort for the mobile versions of their games. In any case, I love how theskillzdatklls cares about what people want, one of the most important things from a casino.
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December 25, 2019, 06:29:04 PM
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Dont underestimate how many people use and prefer mobile to desktop versions. We made that mistake, too, with our site at the beginning. Nowadays its like 15 : 85 in favour of our mobile version, leading to the fact that we ve shifted development resources from the desktop to the mobile version.
No no, that's not my idea, i mean web version should be release before mobile version, because you can still access the web version via your mobile phone with some browsers like chrome, contrary is not. You cannot use a computer to use mobile applications without emulating applications, which will be more difficult and time consuming. But anyway, the mobile version is still needed  Cheesy

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December 26, 2019, 06:01:43 AM
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No no, that's not my idea, i mean web version should be release before mobile version, because you can still access the web version via your mobile phone with some browsers like chrome, contrary is not.

Ok got it, we are in the same boat Wink

I honestly didn't know the half of the traffic came from mobile phones, if that is the case then a mobile phone app or at least the optimized to mobile version of the PC version is a very very important thing to deal with. I was thinking mobile must be something like 10% of the total visitors, not half of it. Is this the same rate for all websites?
I think so, yes. Mobile versions become more and more important. The younger your visitors are the more likely it is that they use their phone to access your site. This is very important to keep in mind if you want to expand your business, too. You should make it as easy as possible for consumers to visit your site, an enhanced mobile version of your site is therefore mandatory.


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December 26, 2019, 05:53:07 PM
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Dont underestimate how many people use and prefer mobile to desktop versions. We made that mistake, too, with our site at the beginning. Nowadays its like 15 : 85 in favour of our mobile version, leading to the fact that we ve shifted development resources from the desktop to the mobile version.
No no, that's not my idea, i mean web version should be release before mobile version, because you can still access the web version via your mobile phone with some browsers like chrome, contrary is not. You cannot use a computer to use mobile applications without emulating applications, which will be more difficult and time consuming. But anyway, the mobile version is still needed  Cheesy
Doesn't it all depend on what the website is about for example? I mean sure in gambling mobile could be something very important, on any news websites or maybe even shopping etc etc mobile is very important, nowadays there are less people spending time in front of a computer and spend more time on their mobile phones so I can understand why mobile is getting bigger and bigger.

However, if you build a website that is like a kongregate game just to give an example, mobile people will play their own games, kongregate people will play on PC (requires flash too) that is just one thing I can think of, there must be a million reasons why one website is mainly PC and not mobile, definitely plausible. Mintdice apparently have a lot of mobile users so I understand why they are moving some sources to mobile.
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December 26, 2019, 09:31:33 PM
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I think it is just something to meet the needs of the user to the fullest. You know, each customer has a different interest, while you can't prioritize one customer over the other. So it is best to meet the requirements of all. It can be difficult, but by prioritizing one request first, other requests can be made in the future. And obviously, the web version is always preferred over the mobile application.

About half of the traffic that enters MintDice is mobile traffic. So it's definitely important. Now how important mobile traffic is relative to desktop traffic is an entirely different discussion in and of itself. But either way, it's a problem we are taking very seriously that we hope to have a good answer to as soon as we can get it all developed.
I honestly didn't know the half of the traffic came from mobile phones, if that is the case then a mobile phone app or at least the optimized to mobile version of the PC version is a very very important thing to deal with. I was thinking mobile must be something like 10% of the total visitors, not half of it. Is this the same rate for all websites?

I mean I know many of the big places don't have a proper app or a mobile version and they are bigger than mintdice (for now, mintdice keeps growing while they stay the same) and if that is the case the mobile version could help mintdice get much more people to gamble here since the other "big" places lacks the effort for the mobile versions of their games. In any case, I love how theskillzdatklls cares about what people want, one of the most important things from a casino.
Mobile version will give much better user experience than pinching in and out for every bets and changing bet amount and also chances of making errors will be lot less so potentially it will attract more users hopefully but the important reason should be making their current existing mobile users to stay with their website. Smiley

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