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June 10, 2019, 12:16:13 PM
Last edit: June 12, 2019, 12:59:47 AM by SteveStake
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Have you seen someone in a signature campaign making posts with little to no value on threads? Publicly report them here!


Together as a community we can make a change! It's time to take Bitcointalk back!

Any form of a paid signature campaign on any forum is fundamentally encouraging people to post for no reason other than to profit. Since Bitcointalk is well known for it's wide selection of signature campaigns to join, it's to no surprise there's such a large amount of posts with little to no constructive value. It's time we crack down on all signature campaign abusers and report them here to be reviewed by the campaign managers. Maybe Bitcointalk won't ever fully be restored to what it once was but it doesn't mean we have to let things continue to spiral downwards at the rate they currently are.

Signature campaigns are like fuel for the forum

Ever since cryptocurrencies became mainstream more and more crypto businesses have been launching. With more crypto businesses comes more signature campaigns and naturally with more signature campaigns comes more potential low quality posts. However, we can't deny signature campaigns are beneficial to the forum if utilised correctly because they give people incentive to stay here and make posts. If we want to pull Bitcointalk out of this rut the first step is to use this thread to report all people who wear a paid signature and make low quality posts. It's impossible to have a signature campaign without at least some forced posts for money to meet the week's required minimum. There's too many people here only for signature campaigns but without the campaigns the forum would take a big hit. The staff & mods are working hard but it doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing our part to help out too.

The problems I've found as the Stake.com signature campaign manager

I've been managing the Stake.com signature campaign and I admit I've accepted some low quality posters because I assumed anyone who was capable of achieving a rank such as Senior member or higher without being banned was credible enough to be given a chance. This has proven to not be the case. A big problem I see is after I remove someone from the campaign they simply move on to another signature campaign. Sure it eliminates the problem for me in the short term but the problem continues into Bitcointalk in the long term. When we have so many low quality posters with high credentials such as being Legendary it makes me wonder how they even got to this rank in the first place.

Bitcointalk is suffocating. Let's bring it back to life!

Anyone who can say "this is our forum" needs to unite and put an end to this problem now! Report anyone here that's posting for a signature campaign and doing more harm than good. Through a community effort we'll clean out the forum and create an environment where Bitcointalk can grow the right way!


Example report post:

Bitcointalk username:
From campaign:
Accusation:
Evidence:

If we want to see the best results use evidence that is indisputable and not subjective
Please no reporting anyone for personal reasons! Let's keep this honest and effective, remember the goal!

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June 10, 2019, 12:22:39 PM
Merited by dbshck (4), LoyceV (2), o_e_l_e_o (2), subSTRATA (2), mindrust (1)
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Dude... stop paying spammers, problem solved.

IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB TO DEAL WITH THIS. You're abusing the forum by flooding it with spam and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.
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Catmurs   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406   1   Junior Member   127
Akshat21   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929411   1   Junior Member   110
Yatsan   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857883   40   Hero   94
lyks15   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1126017   0   Full Member   93
okala   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108241   5   Full Member   64
furylmz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=983794   1   Senior   58
Carrelmae10   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181642   0   Member   56
Adriano2010   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514126   12   Hero   56
steampunkz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944644   18   Senior   54
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blockman   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816893   13   Hero   42
xvids   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948175   13   Senior   42
cryptjh   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188761   23   Full Member   35
alisafidel58   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=782621   26   Full Member   32
Haunebu   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=218075   34   Hero   30
Bitinity   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=449846   56   Lendendary   29
CryptoBry   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=994859   39   Senior   29
Ximoandali   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628   1   Junior Member   28

all apparently in your campaign...
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June 10, 2019, 12:32:58 PM
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Dude... stop paying spammers, problem solved.

IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB TO DEAL WITH THIS. You're abusing the forum by flooding it with spam and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.

This is for all campaigns not only 1! Smiley Let's stay on topic and keep this thread for improving Bitcointalk as a whole!

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June 10, 2019, 12:34:04 PM
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I've been managing the Stake.com signature campaign and I admit I've accepted some low quality posters
Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job, and you can find my portfolio on the Services board, but I'm no charity.
If the owners would be interested in hiring a legit campaign manager, they'd have done it by now.

You could start by publishing a list of accepted campaign participants!

This is for all campaigns not only 1! Smiley Let's stay on topic and keep this thread for improving Bitcointalk as a whole!
There are many spam-fighting initiatives on this forum, we don't need someone who caused spam to pretend to care.

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June 10, 2019, 12:37:34 PM
Merited by LoyceV (1)
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Together as a community we can make a change! It's time to take Bitcointalk back!
maybe you should make a change by doing your job. or you could give it to someone who actually can.

Since Bitcointalk is well known for it's wide selection of signature campaigns to join, it's to no surprise there's such a large amount of posts with little to no constructive value. It's time we crack down on all signature campaign abusers and report them here to be reviewed by the campaign managers. Maybe Bitcointalk won't ever fully be restored to what it once was but it doesn't mean we have to let things continue to spiral downwards at the rate they currently are.
There used to be a lot more before the token bounties took off, yours is just another repeat of the yobit campaign: indiscriminate acceptance with no quality control. the problem got to a point where yobit's campaign was blacklisted in the past, its a solid precedent to justify blacklisting stake's if it gets to that point.

When we have so many low quality posters with high credentials such as being Legendary it makes me wonder how they even got to this rank in the first place.
before the introduction of the merit system, all you had to do was be here long enough and make a post once a day to eventually reach legendary. not that much wondering to do.

Report anyone here that's posting for a signature campaign and doing more harm than good. Through a community effort we'll clean out the forum and create an environment where Bitcointalk can grow the right way!
you're probably doing the most harm by not doing your job tbh. you contrinue to enable the spammers and put this thread out as some PR stunt to make it seem like you care.

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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June 10, 2019, 12:44:40 PM
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So you need the user here to report spammers ?

Good, I like to know if  you are not able to judge spam and low quality while counting the post?

BTW, the rate you are playing with so high limit of posting is designed to encourage spam only.

First, fix  your model ,you will automatically get the good participant.

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June 10, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
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On the one hand it is positive that the manager of the campaign finally realizes that something is wrong with his signature campaign, but as suchmoon say it is your job to decide who gets into the campaign and what is quality post and what is spam.

Two major problems of this campaign is that you allow almost anyone to join, without check user post history and without taking the merits into consideration. Most of spammers have very poor history of posts, and just a few earned merit, this is not hard to notice. Second problem is to allow users to post anywhere in forum and to get pay for such posting ( now this is changed), and there is no way that you can evaluate such posts properly, especially in local boards.

Also quantity does not guarantee quality, this campaign has too many users who practically have the possibility to post hundred of post per week - and then we are back to problem of evaluating such huge number of posts.

Reducing the number of users, checking post history of every user, and setting a minimum amount of earned merits to participate in the campaign can solve all problems which this campaign currently has.

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June 10, 2019, 12:52:02 PM
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Feedback for the Stake signature campaign should be posted here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093

Let's not be spammers! Grin

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June 10, 2019, 12:53:34 PM
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Strenge! A "spam creator" calling for prevent spam. @OP you are encouraging spammer consciously. There is a open thread aginst your campaign, but unfortunately we haven't seen any action/reaction from you. First you should motivate yourself before motivate someone else. There is so many spam/scam hunters, you don't need think much about it. You just need concentrate on your own campaign for prevent spammers.

Most likely OP just want to divert attention to other by opening this thread.

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June 10, 2019, 01:00:58 PM
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Together as a community we can make a change! It's time to take Bitcointalk back!
LOL I stopped reading here. How much will stake pay us to do your job?  Cheesy

Biggest joke here is that you are paying people to advertise stake and they are spamming threads of other casinos and shilling for them  Grin
Feedback for the Stake signature campaign should be posted here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093

Let's not be spammers! Grin
Not sure if you are trolling...I decided to be polite so I won't post anything there.
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June 10, 2019, 01:01:53 PM
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You know stevestake you put your participants indanger you are selfish jerk you know! Just shup up your mouth and change rule of your campaign! 🤦‍♀
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June 10, 2019, 01:02:13 PM
Last edit: June 10, 2019, 02:50:22 PM by hd49728
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Strict rules to select participants at the start will solve all spamming issues.
Inclusive criteria should include:
- Average post quality in the past two - four weeks;
- Time gaps between posts (to exclude burt posters);
- Limited numbers of participants to have selective and competitive selection process from applications.
More competitive, higher quality in average for sure.
At least three criteria will exclude spammers from Stake campaign, then Stake.com will get benefit from their campaigns. Higher post quality, more attractive their posts are, and more benefits for the owners.

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Akshat21   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929411   1   Junior Member   110
Yatsan   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857883   40   Hero   94
lyks15   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1126017   0   Full Member   93
okala   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108241   5   Full Member   64
furylmz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=983794   1   Senior   58
Carrelmae10   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181642   0   Member   56
Adriano2010   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514126   12   Hero   56
steampunkz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944644   18   Senior   54
LUCKMCFLY   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1153977   40   Full Member   51
mrdeposit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=77867   3   Hero   45
blockman   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816893   13   Hero   42
xvids   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948175   13   Senior   42
cryptjh   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188761   23   Full Member   35
alisafidel58   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=782621   26   Full Member   32
Haunebu   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=218075   34   Hero   30
Bitinity   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=449846   56   Lendendary   29
CryptoBry   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=994859   39   Senior   29
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all apparently in your campaign...

Can we all agree on a number for deleted post counts that's undeniably from spam?

Why is everyone so angry? I thought this is what you wanted rather than posting in random places all over the forum about spam we can do it in one place now

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June 10, 2019, 01:09:43 PM
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Feedback for the Stake signature campaign should be posted here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093

Let's not be spammers! Grin
Now you're just trolling.

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June 10, 2019, 01:09:54 PM
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Ok stake (stevestake) took a long time before doing anything regarding the spam generated by his campaign.

And what does he chose to do?

Reviewing carefully posts to kick people out that are just spamming away? No

SteveStake expects the community to do his BM job FOR HIM! How fucking ridiculous is that? Can I get paid if I report spammers in your campaign steve?

Man up and do YOUR FUCKING JOB!
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June 10, 2019, 01:11:28 PM
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Why is everyone so angry? I thought this is what you wanted rather than posting in random places all over the forum about spam we can do it in one place now

Please take a moment to read.

Biggest joke here is that you are paying people to advertise stake and they are spamming threads of other casinos and shilling for them  Grin

Strenge! A "spam creator" calling for prevent spam. @OP you are encouraging spammer consciously. There is a open thread aginst your campaign, but unfortunately we haven't seen any action/reaction from you.

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all apparently in your campaign...

Can we all agree on a number for deleted post counts that's undeniably from spam?

Why is everyone so angry? I thought this is what you wanted rather than posting in random places all over the forum about spam we can do it in one place now
Everyone wants to you to turn as a good campaign manager and how to take care of this forum not only for your ownsake!
Don't push yourself that you are right because first of all you are really wrong here! 
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June 10, 2019, 01:17:24 PM
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This is for all campaigns not only 1! Smiley Let's stay on topic and keep this thread for improving Bitcointalk as a whole!

Coolcryptovator opened a thread about your campaign 4 months ago. What have you done since then to improve Bitcointalk?

You're responsible for this. Sure, users will report the posts, mods will delete them. You don't need to create a new thread to tell us to do that. But you're supposed to not incentivize spam. It's your job as a campaign manager to not accept spammers. You need to review the post histories of your participants. If you're unable to do that - reduce the size of the campaign, hire help, etc.

Can we all agree on a number for deleted post counts that's undeniably from spam?

If anything, those numbers are way lower than the actual amount of spam. Not everything gets reported, not everything gets deleted.

Why is everyone so angry? I thought this is what you wanted rather than posting in random places all over the forum about spam we can do it in one place now

4 months of ignored warnings might have something to do with it. Clean it up or hire a proper campaign manager.
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Why is everyone so angry? I thought this is what you wanted rather than posting in random places all over the forum about spam we can do it in one place now
No, we are not angry really. We just telling the truth. Had you ever  bothered to read your participants post? Just ask yourself honestly. You don't care about forum and you just need spread your brand. But now you just try to troll.


Feedback for the Stake signature campaign should be posted here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093

Let's not be spammers! Grin
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Can we all agree on a number for deleted post counts that's undeniably from spam?
You got it all wrong, that is number of deleted constructive posts  Roll Eyes

Why is everyone so angry? I thought this is what you wanted rather than posting in random places all over the forum about spam we can do it in one place now
Ok, lets do it your way then:

Bitcointalk username: SteveStake
From campaign: Stake signature campaign - manager
Accusation: Trolling spammer

Evidence 1: Report a Signature Campaign Spammer!

Evidence 2:
This is for all campaigns not only 1! Smiley Let's stay on topic and keep this thread for improving Bitcointalk as a whole!

Evidence 3:
Feedback for the Stake signature campaign should be posted here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093

Let's not be spammers! Grin

Evidence 4:
Why is everyone so angry?
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June 10, 2019, 02:23:51 PM
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Are you firing shots at someone specific or is this more general? I've seen the thread about the stake campaign and honestly, any campaign that pays you PER 10 posts that you make will always incentivize spam so perhaps we should start there?

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If people actually reported sig spammers in this thread (and it's subjective anyway) and the thread stayed unlocked long enough, it would probably be one of the longest threads in existence on bitcointalk.  Probably it'd get to 10X the size of the Wall Observer thread, and that's saying something.

The subjectivity I mentioned is the key.  People will name and shame just out of spite, and a thread like this wouldn't do much to help anyway.  That's what the merit system is for, and this is why campaign managers need to do a better job of keeping shitposters out of their campaigns.

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This is for all campaigns not only 1! Smiley Let's stay on topic and keep this thread for improving Bitcointalk as a whole!

This reminds me of the late URSS propaganda.
It's called whataboutism.

You have clearly not opened this topic to clean up your campaign, your motive is quite obvious for one that has followed your history around here, what you try now is to somehow bury the avalanche of reports against stake between others campaigns (who undoubtedly have spammers also) in order to try and minimize the fallout, trying to point at others > They spam too!!!

At least half of the participants are spammers and about another half are shitposters.

You don't care about removing spammers as they do their job, every topic has it's first page filled with stake sigs for pennies, that's why you don't want to clean your campaign, you won't get good posters at those rates and you know it pretty well.

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June 10, 2019, 03:44:37 PM
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Why is everyone so angry?

You will never understand why everyone is angry on you. The problem is that these few people only want to earn themselves and they will never accept you, no matter what changes you make to make this a good campaign.

Indirectly or directly, all of them are begging to manage this campaign and earn  Cheesy




and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.

Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

maybe you should make a change by doing your job. or you could give it to someone who actually can.

LOL I stopped reading here. How much will stake pay us to do your job?  Cheesy

Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.

Lolzzzz ... Shocked


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Why is everyone so angry?

You will never understand why everyone is angry on you. The problem is that these few people only want to earn themselves and they will never accept you, no matter what changes you make to make this a good campaign.

Indirectly or directly, all of them are begging to manage this campaign and earn  Cheesy




and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.

Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

maybe you should make a change by doing your job. or you could give it to someone who actually can.

LOL I stopped reading here. How much will stake pay us to do your job?  Cheesy

Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.

Lolzzzz ...Beggers  Shocked


only 1 of those users has actually offered his services. The others are just telling him to actually do his job. It's obvious he has not been doing his job and honestly the whole campaign needs a facelift.

Starting with changing rates, kicking out megaspammers, and getting the most bang for their buck but keeping the forum as clean as possible.

I would also offer my services to help with the problem, that doesn't make me or any of the other users beggars. We are looking to make some money sure, but it's not only for monetary gain. Some of us actually care about the forum. Some actually like to read the forum but get pissed off when they open a thread and see three pages of responses that make 0 sense before you get to 1 intelligent response.

Steve doesn't have to resign but he needs some help, otherwise we will not be seeing Stake signature soon. They will blacklist them and who knows it may also carry over to Primedice being blacklisted as well since they're connected.

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June 10, 2019, 04:05:36 PM
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only 1 of those users has actually offered his services. The others are just telling him to actually do his job. It's obvious he has not been doing his job and honestly the whole campaign needs a facelift.

The rest also want to manage this campaign. Lets give them a offer and see  Wink


I would also offer my services to help with the problem, that doesn't make me or any of the other users beggars. We are looking to make some money sure, but it's not only for monetary gain.

That's a decent way of applying for a Job. Good Luck !  Smiley


Steve doesn't have to resign but he needs some help, otherwise we will not be seeing Stake signature soon. They will blacklist them and who knows it may also carry over to Primedice being blacklisted as well since they're connected.

So if you don't hire us, We will fire you.    Wink
Also stake and primedice may lose the business and in coming days, these sites might close down if it is not managed by us (The Gang)  Tongue

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I support Stakes initiative.


Where does forum rules demand to have a BM who checks the content of his poster for spam?
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No one from “The Gang” needs to manage the campaign. I’m pretty sure everybody would be happy with any manager that actually cares about what their participants are posting.

Now, the fact that you and the other users need to pull out this “the gang” card everywhere and every single time in the forum makes your whole case (about the DT abuse and etc) go down. And no one is ever going to take you seriously because of that.

I actually dislike many of these users attitudes (so no asskissing here), but you are just plain stupid. Going full-troll is never the answer.

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Why is everyone so angry?

You will never understand why everyone is angry on you. The problem is that these few people only want to earn themselves and they will never accept you, no matter what changes you make to make this a good campaign.

Indirectly or directly, all of them are begging to manage this campaign and earn  Cheesy




and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.

Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

maybe you should make a change by doing your job. or you could give it to someone who actually can.

LOL I stopped reading here. How much will stake pay us to do your job?  Cheesy

Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.

Lolzzzz ... Shocked



Interesting point I guess I never realised how many people are actually begging me in pm and Telegram for a job in this campaign since day 1 lol

I want to point out I'm not asking anyone to do this job. The point of this thread isn't so I don't have to clear out potential spammers. The point of this thread is to show I am making the effort to not only clean the forum from any spam in my campaign but also general spam at the same time. Let's be honest, the general post quality is super low with or without the Stake campaign. It's not even that I'm creating the people who are being called spammers because they were here long before the campaign and they will be here long after in other campaigns. Again I'm not looking to hire anyone I just noticed people are posting about some of the members so here's your place to put it where I'll surely see it and then be able to take action against those members. This is a good thing for the forum.


Are you firing shots at someone specific or is this more general? I've seen the thread about the stake campaign and honestly, any campaign that pays you PER 10 posts that you make will always incentivize spam so perhaps we should start there?

This is at nobody specific I just figured it could all be done at the same time for all campaigns. You can also be paid for 1 post, 7 posts, 12 posts ect it's not just in increments of 10

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June 10, 2019, 04:53:14 PM
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Let's be honest, the general post quality is super low with or without the Stake campaign.

To be more honest, it is not about the spam only, it is also about the greed for the managing of the BTC paying campaigns .

Just go to the altcoins bounty section, where Newbie managers are accepting even one liners shit posters plus the red trusted ones also. Stake might have 100 of users while those campaigns have 1000 of users. The condition is more than worse in those bounties.

Is any of the Gang members willing to help those managers also?  Are the gang members willing to take over those alt campaigns and manage them too (to stop the spam) ?  Why can't they help them.

No way, Why would they ? They are not willing to take altcoins (which have no value) to remove the spam.

Let's accept the truth. Everything is not as clear as it seems to be. Sad  

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I have seen many users get tagged for account buying/selling, with a standard text like "Account selling encourages spam"

But this user, Steve Stake, is paying for spam openly. He really encourages it.

Omg, he pays for every 10 posts without a limit, accept everyone even with 0 merit and doesnt care about quality... that´s so crazy.

Shouldn't he be tagged as well, as he is clearly a person who encourages spam?

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June 10, 2019, 04:58:52 PM
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here's your place to put it where I'll surely see it and then be able to take action against those members. This is a good thing for the forum.

I don't know how many different ways you need to be told this, but no, it isn't. You already know who the members of your spam campaign are. You got some extra help just recently with the stats provided by QS and LoyceV. Fire the spammers. Start over if you need to. Hire help if you need to.

All you're doing here is trying to weasel out of responsibility and hide behind the overall spam issue. You're part of the problem. You're paying them for spam and other garbage posts and you're incentivizing such posts with ludicrous requirements and no oversight. Take care of your own issues and if you do a good job then you can tell us how to clean up the rest of the forum.
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June 10, 2019, 05:03:49 PM
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Hire help if you need to.

Why Hire help ?  Can't you help without getting paid ?  Roll Eyes

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the fact of the discussion among the respected members of this forum about this signature campaign gives hope, unlike the yo*it campaign, when everyone was banned without warning
as legendary i confirm that i never dropped to spam in my messages, but we are still here for Mr. Profit, yeah ?
Stephen, you should change rules - high threshold of entry, high rewards, high requirements
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Let's be honest, the general post quality is super low with or without the Stake campaign.

To be more honest, it is not about the spam only, it is also about the greed for the managing of the BTC paying campaigns .

Just go to the altcoins bounty section, where Newbie managers are accepting even one liners shit posters plus the red trusted ones also. Stake might have 100 of users while those campaigns have 1000 of users. The condition is more than worse in those bounties.

Is any of the Gang members willing to help those managers also?  Are the gang members willing to take over those alt campaigns and manage them too (to stop the spam) ?  Why can't they help them.

No way, Why would they ? They are not willing to take altcoins (which have no value) to remove the spam.

Let's accept the truth. Everything is not as clear as it seems to be. Sad  

Noone is offering to help for free, least from what i'm reading they aren't. I'm sure managers would be willing to help the piss poor bounty managers too, if they were paid fairly for the job. Most bounty campaigns want to pay slave wages or tokens to a manager which is why newbies get the jobs.

Show me 1 bounty campaign with 1000 users in their signature campaign. I haven't seen 1 yet but I suppose there could be 1.

The altcoin section is no different then the BTC sections. Many bounty companies have had their threads removed for multiple reasons. You're just bitter over your red profile obviously but you're not helping here.

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Hire help if you need to.

Why Hire help ?  Can't you help without getting paid ?  Roll Eyes

Sure. Here is some free advice: terminate the campaign. Instant net benefit for the forum.

Other options require someone to do some actual work so appropriate compensation is appropriate.
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Why are always the same people bashing campaigns and bringing themselves into the game as BM ?
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June 10, 2019, 06:01:45 PM
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Noone is offering to help for free, least from what i'm reading they aren't.

You know what make you better than rest of the gang members , You have the courage to speak the truth publicly.


Sure. Here is some free advice: terminate the campaign. Instant net benefit for the forum.

Other options require someone to do some actual work so appropriate compensation is appropriate.

This is now going too far.  Two of the things may happen soon

Either this campaign will be forcefully banned or one of you will be hired  Wink

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Biggest scam BM's of all.
Only accepting their buddies and alts with their BS rules.
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I don’t think Steve is serious about wanting to improve the impact his advertising campaign has on the forum.

IMO, he should hire someone to help manage it, based on his request to message him on telegram, it doesn’t sound like he even has time to review applications. If he were to perform even very basic due diligence on potential participants, it would go a long way in weeding out the spammers— he could have basic requirements such as minimum earned merit and recent earned merit, and review the last couple of pages of potential participants post history. If he were to even casually check post lengths on several posters, he would pretty quickly weed out any spammers who make their way into the campaign.

The biggest evidence that Stake has no interest in weeding out the spammers from their campaign is their pay rates. No one in their right mind would advertise for them at the rates they are offering, who has halfway decent post quality. They would choose to either not advertise anything, or find another campaign that pays 10x as much. The only people they will attract are those who have no idea what they are talking about and are willing to post crap.

As it stands now, their advertising campaign is doing more harm than good because it is associating their brand with harm to the community.
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As it stands now, their advertising campaign is doing more harm than good because it is associating their brand with harm to the community.
And that's the part I really don't get! Stake is a good site and trusted site. From what I've seen, it had a good image until this campaign came around. It just doesn't make sense.

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As it stands now, their advertising campaign is doing more harm than good because it is associating their brand with harm to the community.
And that's the part I really don't get! Stake is a good site and trusted site. From what I've seen, it had a good image until this campaign came around. It just doesn't make sense.
I guess they wanted to increase their brand exposure. Their primedice brand is pretty well known, but I guess there were too many copycats emulating them, so they decided to create stake, which is closer to what you would see in a real casino. I don’t think their stake brand is as well known.

I don’t think they need to have every page of every thread contain one or their ads. People read enough threads to see an ad that only appears in 2-3% of thread pages, and they’ll probably see it multiple times.
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And that's the part I really don't get! Stake is a good site and trusted site. From what I've seen, it had a good image until this campaign came around. It just doesn't make sense.

When it comes to pure advertising it does.

It is about having their logo/image all over the place. It is subconscious. I honestly doubt that having people doing good posts with the stake logo would change anything for them.

The more often you see the logo, the more likely you are to chose their service over another.

So it does make sense, it is simply not respectful to the community is all.
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not only the post should be check but also the threads, some got all the answer they needed in less than 20 post, such thread should be locked after a while. The idea of this thread should not only be about signature campaign spam but the influence of the forum in general to ICOs and other prevailing services the forum can offer

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Many times the users of the Stake.com campaign were reported but no action was taken. None of these users were kicked out of the campaign and even when their posts kept getting deleted, still they kept being a part of the campaign. Even though there are many users, it is the responsibility of the campaign manager to check the posts and I've seen many users who post once a week and all spam posts and still get paid. When any such issue is discussed in the telegram group, the posts are deleted as spam while the REAL spam is never dealt with. Now the rates are ridiculously low and the sections are limited but still spam continues.

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June 10, 2019, 07:40:09 PM
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OP is just trying to play smart, he's trying to present this thread as a solution to solve the spam problem from participants of his campaign meanwhile his intentions are different. If truely he's interested in solving the spam issue of stake signature campaign he would had done that from the root which is enforcing anti-spam rules in campaign

This thread is just a publicity stunt for creating more awareness for the project, don't fall for it. Don't give this thread any serious attention, doing so will just create more awareness like it did for yobit. What we need now is an intervention by theymos. Stakes signature has done more harm even than yobit and deserve to be given same treatment as yobit got.

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Wouldn't there be the group which controls the majority of campaigns which don't allow the majority of members to participate these people wouldn't be using these kinds of offers.

So the conclusion is the real spammer which is forcing a big group to participate in these kinds of campaigns are the so-called quality hunters themselves which deny the majority of participants on any decent campaign for any bs reason
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Wouldn't there be the group which controls the majority of campaigns which don't allow the majority of members to participate these people wouldn't be using these kinds of offers.

So the conclusion is the real spammer which is forcing a big group to participate in these kinds of campaigns are the so-called quality hunters themselves which deny the majority of participants on any decent campaign for any bs reason

Your logic is so flawed you have to realize it yourself.

Please read the definition of the word spammer.

The main purpose of this forum is NOT making a buck of signature campaigns. I hope you are aware of that. If you are not you are welcome to leave Wink
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The main purpose of this forum is NOT making a buck of signature campaigns. I hope you are aware of that. If you are not you are welcome to leave

That's why you use chipmixer . Because it's a low paying offer heh?
The exclusion of participants in any decent campaign forces them to accept shitty campaigns like stake.

You are the main issue people are spamming on these low-quality campaigns.

Demanding for themselves a better pay to not be forced to spam but post only quality content but at the same time deny access to the majority of participants to be able to earn a decent commission without being forced to spam.

You are a hypocrite like the rest of you


BTW maybe you can point me as DT member who is attacking Stake a rule which he broke?
Because I can't find it.
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Don't give this thread any serious attention, doing so will just create more awareness like it did for yobit.

It's almost as if everyone is wearing an invisible yobit signature or something with how much it's talked about still. The only reason I even went on their site is because everyone talking about it so much lol
 
The biggest evidence that Stake has no interest in weeding out the spammers from their campaign is their pay rates.

The highest quality posters you can find are those who post for free and aren't part of a signature campaign because they're genuinely posting and not for money. Can you imagine the amount of spam on this forum if I made a huge pay rate? Everyone would be having a field day spamming Bitcointalk as fast as possible. I believe people are unhappy with these pay rates because it proves the value of a post is far far less than we make it out to be. It's simple supply and demand, if I make this offer and so many people are still trying to join then it's obvious the pay rates could be lower and still have new members wanting to join. I know the counter argument will be "they're low quality" but how is that even an argument because under that assumption you're saying Bitcointalk is mostly low quality people.

60% of the campaign is ranked Senior or higher. If we add full members we go up to over 82%.
Last week's average post count per member? 22.45

I think there's more to this than wanting to prevent spam and people don't like that other campaign managers will look at what I'm doing and wonder why they're paying so much for the same thing. Other campaign managers should be lowering their pay rates if anything because the demand for their campaign will not drop. Everyone has their agenda, I know it's not all about potential spam and that's why I get more people who aren't part of the campaign complaining about the pay rates than people who are in it.

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As it stands now, their advertising campaign is doing more harm than good because it is associating their brand with harm to the community.
And that's the part I really don't get! Stake is a good site and trusted site. From what I've seen, it had a good image until this campaign came around. It just doesn't make sense.

You should know that there is no bad advertisement. Noone is not going to buy a product just because he hated a commercial. What happens is the opposite of what you think. The brand always gains .
The bounty manager made these rules in order to raise awareness of the brand of Stake.com and he succeeded. Everyone is talking about Stake.com from what I see.

It is obvioius that it has destroyed the other campaigns and you keep crying about spammers and asking staff members to delete and ban participants. Seriously what you should be asking is to stop all bounty activities on this forum if you only have pure intentions. This would actually raise the quality of posts and stop spam immediately. But this is exactly what 99/100 of you do for a liviing as it seems. So you made something like a union and make demands on what goes against your interests. This is exactly how this looks.

I didn't know wtf Stake.com was until bounty-hunters spammed the Stake avatar on every thread. I think at least 90% of people that use bitcointalk didn't know about them either. Most of you probably haven't studied how marketing works or what a marketing plan is. This bounty manager is probably 100 times more efficient than any of you, he obviously got paid way more than most of you will ever make and right now he is trolling you hard with this post because he did his job and doesn't care about you. And you still keep spamming bs and cry about the quality of his bounty. You basically have no idea how marketing works.

Now read this to be clear: I absolutely hate marketing and advertisment. I participated in a few bounties and I hated this promotional bullshit even more than I already did. But I have a fucking clue what this is about and you people behave like it is something that has rules (everyone has in mind different rules too), but it doesn't. Do you realize how clueless you look? Do you understand why this guy is trolling you like this? These old members from 2012-13 that always have an avatar are basically the ones that didn't hold their bitcoins since 2013, but sold them for peanuts, or gambled them on some shitty online casino and now think they can make this activity their main job for the next 20 years. Seriously these are your life targets? Being a bounty-hunter? Again, this looks like you are crying and asking to takeover this guy's campaign.

Do you think Stake.com didn't notice if it was succesful and that they want your opinion? I'm feeling this forum doesn't have much to offer. Everyone is writing something, having his own personal agenda in mind. So now you deserve the trolling from this guy that probably doesn't even care about bitcoin, or technology in general, or trading. He just did the job way better than you. Hating him only makes you look bad. You talk about quality but still you ask certain number of posts in all campaigns. And what I read from other campaign posts? Same useless posts.

So if the current staff of bitcointalk wants to have more quality it should actually ban all promotional activities as I hate reading what a paid avatar has to answer to me.
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Seriously what you should be asking is to stop all bounty activities on this forum if you only have pure intentions.

So if the current staff of bitcointalk wants to have more quality it should actually ban all promotional activities


This is very true. If we want to see an instant drop of 100% of the spam on Bitcointalk all we need to do is remove every pay per post offer. We would also see a significant drop in spam across the forum from all campaigns if the pay rates dropped. Don't be fooled by people saying a lower pay rate encourages spam because it's actually a higher pay rate that gives incentive for spammers to come here and squeeze in as many posts as possible.

When I reverted the pay rate in the Stake campaign the number of posts for the week instantly dropped a large amount after barely anyone left which is undeniable evidence that lower pay rates cause less posts in total and that means less chance of spam.

Think of it like this, are you more likely to spam Bitcointalk and force posts out if you make $100 per post or 1 cent per post?

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Interesting tactic you are taking on now Steve. Oh well, another thread going to shit.

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The main purpose of this forum is NOT making a buck of signature campaigns. I hope you are aware of that. If you are not you are welcome to leave

That's why you use chipmixer . Because it's a low paying offer heh?
The exclusion of participants in any decent campaign forces them to accept shitty campaigns like stake.

You are the main issue people are spamming on these low-quality campaigns.

Demanding for themselves a better pay to not be forced to spam but post only quality content but at the same time deny access to the majority of participants to be able to earn a decent commission without being forced to spam.

You are a hypocrite like the rest of you


BTW maybe you can point me as DT member who is attacking Stake a rule which he broke?
Because I can't find it.

Yep, they really are huge hypocrites, they think they are above the spammers just because they have slightly better posting quality but they also force themselves to post. I have a paid signature and I definitely feel more encouraged to post.

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Interesting tactic you are taking on now Steve. Oh well, another thread going to shit.

I'm sad we're about to be on page 4 without anyone making use of what this thread is for. I guess it shows the Bitcointalk spam issue goes a lot deeper than any single campaign.

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Interesting tactic you are taking on now Steve. Oh well, another thread going to shit.

I'm sad we're about to be on page 4 without anyone making use of what this thread is for. I guess it shows the Bitcointalk spam issue goes a lot deeper than any single campaign.


Trolling is specifically against the rules.
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Interesting tactic you are taking on now Steve. Oh well, another thread going to shit.

I'm sad we're about to be on page 4 without anyone making use of what this thread is for. I guess it shows the Bitcointalk spam issue goes a lot deeper than any single campaign.


Trolling is specifically against the rules.

You're getting paid for that post? I think you're trolling me honestly

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Interesting tactic you are taking on now Steve. Oh well, another thread going to shit.

I'm sad we're about to be on page 4 without anyone making use of what this thread is for. I guess it shows the Bitcointalk spam issue goes a lot deeper than any single campaign.

No one wants to do your work for you. And like you said, people will try to join other campaigns. Thus, it's better to directly report spammer's posts to mods because:
a) The spam gets deleted and thus not paid for
b) Mods might get fed up of Stake spam and issue a signature ban, which is much more permanent than playing whack-a-mole against every new spammer you accept
c) Users will get banned *eventually* and thus can't join another campaign (I've had a few 7 day bans and a 30 day signature ban issued from what I've seen)
d) You don't have a public spreadsheet AFAIK and Stake is definitely the biggest target right now, excluding altcoin bounty spam. BitVest/777Coin are also issues but to a lesser extent. I can't even confirm that you did anything.



With that out of the way, here's your first actual report.

Bitcointalk username: LUCKMCFLY
From campaign: Stake
Accusation: Spam
Evidence: 135 posts deleted on BPIP. 92+ good reports from me personally and 0 bad ones. Likely serving a 7 day temp ban right now.



Interesting tactic you are taking on now Steve. Oh well, another thread going to shit.

I'm sad we're about to be on page 4 without anyone making use of what this thread is for. I guess it shows the Bitcointalk spam issue goes a lot deeper than any single campaign.


Trolling is specifically against the rules.

You're getting paid for that post?

No.

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op i think you’re havin a tough time with the thread because people expect a manager of a campaign to handle it..
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With that out of the way, here's your first actual report.

Bitcointalk username: LUCKMCFLY
From campaign: Stake
Accusation: Spam
Evidence: 135 posts deleted on BPIP. 92+ good reports from me personally and 0 bad ones. Likely serving a 7 day temp ban right now.

After 3-4 pages of spam I always knew DarkStar_ would be the one to save the day and use the thread correctly. Yup you're right he's messaging me on Telegram right now talking about an unjustified 7 day ban and has been removed from the campaign.

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After 3-4 pages of spam I always knew DarkStar_ would be the one to save the day and use the thread correctly. Yup you're right he's messaging me on Telegram right now talking about an unjustified 7 day ban and has been removed from the campaign.

Could you post a public spreadsheet or at least PM me a link to one so that I can see who's actually still in the campaign and who is removed but just inactive and still wearing the signature? Thanks.

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After 3-4 pages of spam I always knew DarkStar_ would be the one to save the day and use the thread correctly. Yup you're right he's messaging me on Telegram right now talking about an unjustified 7 day ban and has been removed from the campaign.

Could you post a public spreadsheet or at least PM me a link to one so that I can see who's actually still in the campaign and who is removed but just inactive and still wearing the signature? Thanks.
They have said in the past that participants can go on "vacation" for as long as they want and still remain in the campaign.

  • Never ending vacation! Take as much time off from posting as you want, you won't be removed for it!
(if they were removed and are currently inactive, they would not have any recent spammy posts)
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June 10, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
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I don't mind reporting all the spammers including the spam posts and the reason why the post is a spam and you would be wasting money by keeping them in the campaign BUT I wouldn't do that for free. There should be some sort of bounty or rewards for reporting a spammer. Otherwise, I could be your campaign manager and make sure I put in efforts to manage the campaign properly as I'm getting paid for the job.
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June 10, 2019, 11:14:18 PM
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Close this thread.

This has nothing to do with you nor your campaign. This has to do with the very idea of having a thread for reporting spammers.

I tried this in the past and I realized all too soon that it was a waste of time. Leaving behind "evidence" of their spam is ridiculous because for 99.9% of cases you need not look further than their most recent posts.

The amount of time it takes for your construction of such a post against one given spammer is equivalent to the amount of time that you could make a few score good reports against both the spammer thereof and others.
How many posts have you reported, Steve?

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Could you post a public spreadsheet or at least PM me a link to one so that I can see who's actually still in the campaign and who is removed but just inactive and still wearing the signature? Thanks.

I think it might finally be time to release the most iconic spreadsheet member list ever known to Bitcointalk. I've kept it private because I didn't want people abusing it since it had Telegram names, Bitcointalk names and Stake names all in one place. Since I was making announcements to everyone in a Telegram group it was important for the people in the group to know who is who and where. I've now created a Telegram channel with a private members list so it's no longer needed for everyone to know who is who on Telegram. This means I can release a public spreadsheet listing only Bitcointalk usernames and put nobody at any risk. We can expect to see a members list after the next payout because when I remove people I let them finish the week and collect a final payment.


Close this thread.

This has nothing to do with you nor your campaign. This has to do with the very idea of having a thread for reporting spammers.

I tried this in the past and I realized all too soon that it was a waste of time. Leaving behind "evidence" of their spam is ridiculous because for 99.9% of cases you need not look further than their most recent posts.

The amount of time it takes for your construction of such a post against one given spammer is equivalent to the amount of time that you could make a few score good reports against both the spammer thereof and others.
How many posts have you reported, Steve?

I think for evidence we just need to post enough to get the attention of a campaign manager to further manually review the claim. As for the total number of reports I've made I'm not sure. I don't report people often but I am holding 100% accuracy. I think there's a flaw with the report system when it comes to signature campaigns. You can report someone and they get all of these posts removed but they don't get banned so when a campaign manager checks the posts they see nothing and just think they didn't post much.

I guess I clicked quote after the edit and didn't see but just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it's impossible this can easily work and it already is. If anything I'm eliminating spam by bringing everyone here instead of people making multiple threads on the same topic

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The biggest evidence that Stake has no interest in weeding out the spammers from their campaign is their pay rates.

The highest quality posters you can find are those who post for free and aren't part of a signature campaign because they're genuinely posting and not for money. Can you imagine the amount of spam on this forum if I made a huge pay rate? Everyone would be having a field day spamming Bitcointalk as fast as possible. I believe people are unhappy with these pay rates because it proves the value of a post is far far less than we make it out to be. It's simple supply and demand, if I make this offer and so many people are still trying to join then it's obvious the pay rates could be lower and still have new members wanting to join.
Right now, the vast majority of the people in your campaign are posting garbage. Your participants have a median of 3 merit, nearly 40% have zero or 1 merit, and nearly 2/3 have 5 or less merit. There are 51 accounts that posted in your signature campaign thread that are perma banned, and although they all might not have been participating in your campaign when they were banned, I suspect the majority of them probably were.

One might be able to argue that you have a lot of shitty posters because of poor planning, poor screening of potential participants or a lack of supervision of participants, all of which I believe to be true. However the root cause is that you are paying garbage rates, and are attracting garbage posters. No one capable of making good posts that contributes to the community would have any interest in advertising for you based on what you are paying. There are many other advertising campaigns that pay 10x per post higher than what you pay, and the majority of those participating in these campaigns do not make the maximum number of posts.

You are correct in saying that increasing your pay rate would increase the number of people wanting to participate in your campaign. However your standards for accepting participants is currently zero, and if you were to increase your standards, the increase in those wanting to participate who qualify will not be as high, or perhaps will even decline if your standards are high enough. As it stands now, less than 3% of your campaign participants have over 50 earned merit, and less than 9% have greater than 30 merit. The people you are hiring are doing an objectively bad job at posting.

I don't care what you do, but you need to do something to remove the spammers from your signature campaign. If you want to attract good posters in anything except sporadic numbers, you will need to increase your pay rates, by a lot. I somewhat suspect that you are paying people on your platform next to nothing, and are accepting everyone who asks to join because you want to get these people to deposit their own money into your platform and gamble away that additional money, and accepting any and everyone is a way to attract additional customers.

Could you post a public spreadsheet or at least PM me a link to one so that I can see who's actually still in the campaign and who is removed but just inactive and still wearing the signature? Thanks.

I think it might finally be time to release the most iconic spreadsheet member list ever known to Bitcointalk. I've kept it private because I didn't want people abusing it since it had Telegram names, Bitcointalk names and Stake names all in one place.
I have no idea why you would think your spreadsheet would be iconic. It is essentially a list of spammers.

Except for telegram names, all of this information is already in your thread because you asked people to post it in your thread.


If you do not have time to personally manage your campaign, which I do not think you do (or at least you are unwilling to personally invest a lot of time into your campaign), I would strongly suggest hiring someone to help manage it. I would suggest talking to either DarkStar_ or yahoo62278 about this. Both have experience managing fairly large advertising campaigns, and to my knowledge do not have any problems with nepotism in choosing who they accept into their campaigns. 
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Which are thanks to a small group unaccessible for these posters
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I think it might finally be time to release the most iconic spreadsheet member list ever known to Bitcointalk. I've kept it private because I didn't want people abusing it since it had Telegram names, Bitcointalk names and Stake names all in one place

Seriously?
You have a spreadsheet with 150 or so rows and it's such an impossible task to split a column in 3 each with one piece of information (bitcointalk names/ telegram name / stake name) and delete the sensitive data?

How does that spreadsheet look like that is such a gargantuan task to do that it will take you probably another week to?
It's only one row like
stompixtelegramuserstompixstakeusernamstompix645464901350.000750.02625 ?

I'm pretty sure that at least for this people will help you for free. Besides, there are plenty of tutorials around.

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Your campaign push those participant to keep do some posts in any times especially on sections gambling and bitcoin discussion. wish you could re-make of rules to being better for avoid spaming of post. may be to selection those participant based history of posts and change some your rates even max of posts.

Let me give you an example where campaign Yobit was banned for 60 days then those participant got banned for using the forum in 14 days.
If you believe in your mind set, might you campaign will be banned by forums and make your company getting bad impact.
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Catmurs   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817406   1   Junior Member   127
Akshat21   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929411   1   Junior Member   110
Yatsan   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857883   40   Hero   94
lyks15   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1126017   0   Full Member   93
okala   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108241   5   Full Member   64
furylmz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=983794   1   Senior   58
Carrelmae10   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181642   0   Member   56
Adriano2010   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=514126   12   Hero   56
steampunkz   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944644   18   Senior   54
LUCKMCFLY   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1153977   40   Full Member   51
mrdeposit   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=77867   3   Hero   45
blockman   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816893   13   Hero   42
xvids   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948175   13   Senior   42
cryptjh   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188761   23   Full Member   35
alisafidel58   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=782621   26   Full Member   32
Haunebu   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=218075   34   Hero   30
Bitinity   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=449846   56   Lendendary   29
CryptoBry   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=994859   39   Senior   29
Ximoandali   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2173628   1   Junior Member   28

all apparently in your campaign...

OK, whew, glad I'm not on that list. I try to make all of my posts constructive and try to dialogue with people in threads as much as possible. A couple of my posts have been deleted lately, but honestly I thought those two posts were constructive. Anyway, this thread is a good reminder to emphasize quality over quantity and to remain as constructive as possible to the community.
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Your participants have a median of 3 merit, nearly 40% have zero or 1 merit, and nearly 2/3 have 5 or less merit. There are 51 accounts that posted in your signature campaign thread that are perma banned, and although they all might not have been participating in your campaign when they were banned, I suspect the majority of them probably were.

Are you making this stuff up to try and bait me to count the merits?
If over 80% of the campaign is full member+ how can 40% have 1 merit? I'll give you something more accurate than the median merits of the campaign, the average including Jr/Members

367.94 average merits for a Stake campaign member. It doesn't take much effort to find out your claim is 100% false

I look at your list of 51 banned accounts and I don't even know who majority of them even are. This is completely flawed because you're making your own list of people so your information is false. Low merits does not mean someone is incapable of a good post either. Are you incapable of being trusted or making a good post because your trust level is so negative?

Another thing, I'm fully aware what some of you are doing when you put a Stake signature on and then start trolling without being part of the campaign.

Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg51190436#msg51190436

There was never a point Souldream was ever in this campaign yet he was wearing the signature getting banned for plagiarism. He's still wearing the Stake avatar right now? This is obviously people attacking the campaign. How are you not trolling by trying to claim 40% of members have 1 merit, it's impossible. The fact you have so many merits for making that claim shows either merit abuse is very present on Bitcointalk (which it is) or people have no idea what they're talking about. It's handing out merits to support a post which is not true to gang up on me

However the root cause is that you are paying garbage rates

Higher pay rates will only encourage people to post more and lower pay rates encourage people to post less. If we truly want to see spam gone then remove all pay per post features because that will always encourage spam. Once I lowered the pay rates I saw an instant decrease in spam and it worked out well. I suggest other campaign managers stop over paying for posts because your supply of posters far surpasses your demand for them. But sure everyone is going to hate me for saying that even though it's true because so many are making a career out of Bitcointalk

Except for telegram names, all of this information is already in your thread because you asked people to post it in your thread.

This isn't true either...
Where am I asking people to post Telegram names other than in my private messages? If you went through the entire thread to find this "banned users" list how can you say something that makes it look like you didn't even read the first page lol

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@SteveStake: there's a difference between earned and airdropped Merit. Don't expect quality posts from a user with high rank and no earned Merit.

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@SteveStake: there's a difference between earned and airdropped Merit. Don't expect quality posts from a user with high rank and no earned Merit.

I like you Loyce, you take part in everything I post here long before this campaign and speak positively about Stake as a casino and website

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After 3-4 pages of spam I always knew DarkStar_ would be the one to save the day and use the thread correctly. Yup you're right he's messaging me on Telegram right now talking about an unjustified 7 day ban and has been removed from the campaign.

If you think all users who post in this thread only spam, did you report any of posts as spam? There is a option "Report to moderator", and if you are right mods will delete most of posts and you will prove that your statement is correct.

I'm sad we're about to be on page 4 without anyone making use of what this thread is for. I guess it shows the Bitcointalk spam issue goes a lot deeper than any single campaign.

At this time, the biggest source of spam in this forum is the campaign in which you are the manager, and after months of doing nothing you ask members of this forum to clear your mess?

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June 11, 2019, 02:19:03 PM
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After 3-4 pages of spam I always knew DarkStar_ would be the one to save the day and use the thread correctly. Yup you're right he's messaging me on Telegram right now talking about an unjustified 7 day ban and has been removed from the campaign.

If you think all users who post in this thread only spam, did you report any of posts as spam? There is a option "Report to moderator", and if you are right mods will delete most of posts and you will prove that your statement is correct.

I haven't been reporting people but yes a few posts from this thread have been removed


At this time, the biggest source of spam in this forum is the campaign in which you are the manager, and after months of doing nothing you ask members of this forum to clear your mess?

That's simply not true. Be a leader not a follower, you only say that because someone else did and if you research yourself you'd know there's a massive spam issue long before this campaign and there will be one long after. I'm not asking anyone to do anything and I'm simply providing a place for people to report any campaign spammer if they choose. People try to do it in random places across the forum already so it only makes sense to provide 1 place for people to post. Sure some people made low quality posts but it's the minority of members and people are taking out years of frustration towards Bitcointalk on a single campaign that's not even that old. I feel like the Stake campaign is turning into an antispam awareness movement. I don't mind taking the beating if it leads to a greater outcome in the end.

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June 11, 2019, 03:12:41 PM
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@SteveStake: there's a difference between earned and airdropped Merit. Don't expect quality posts from a user with high rank and no earned Merit.

I like you Loyce, you take part in everything I post here long before this campaign and speak positively about Stake as a casino and website

Where did you find Loyce speaking positively about you and stake  Huh


Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

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@SteveStake: there's a difference between earned and airdropped Merit. Don't expect quality posts from a user with high rank and no earned Merit.

I like you Loyce, you take part in everything I post here long before this campaign and speak positively about Stake as a casino and website

Where did you find Loyce speaking positively about you and stake  Huh


Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

Just on my past threads, when I'm not doing things campaign related I post a bunch of giveaways and games for the community to join in on. If people hate me or not I don't have a problem with anyone personally and I think we can all get along and make this a less toxic/spammy environment overall.

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I like you Loyce, you take part in everything I post here long before this campaign and speak positively about Stake as a casino and website
Where did you find Loyce speaking positively about you and stake  Huh
Read the topic:
As it stands now, their advertising campaign is doing more harm than good because it is associating their brand with harm to the community.
And that's the part I really don't get! Stake is a good site and trusted site. From what I've seen, it had a good image until this campaign came around. It just doesn't make sense.

Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,
OP was asking people to do his job for free, no need to take this out of context.

@SteveStake: How about this:
Kick out everyone who earned less than 15 Merit in the last 120 days. Check the merited posts, to make sure they're worth the Merit. That should largely reduce the amount of spam.
Then, increase pay rates for the good posters, keep a public list of participants, and check their posts before paying. This is a lot of work, ask for a raise if needed.
Running a campaign without much spam isn't difficult, it's just hard work. I have nothing against you, Stake, or signature campaigns. But I do hate spam!

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Kick out everyone who earned less than 15 Merit in the last 120 days. Check the merited posts, to make sure they're worth the Merit. That should largely reduce the amount of spam.
Then, increase pay rates for the good posters, keep a public list of participants, and check their posts before paying. This is a lot of work, ask for a raise if needed.

Seriously Huh
You should know that merit system does not work as it should be. Most of the merit revolves around the Gang members .

I have seen plenty of Jr Members, Members doing superb posts and getting no merits. However, Gang members do give  1 Merit to Newbies to become a Jr. Member and 10 merits to a Jr Member to become a member and consider they have done the job.  Wink  Don't give me 10 example where a person move from Jr Member to Hero......and ignore the 1000000 cases where he can't move up  Grin You people think everyone else is mad and only you are wise.

Check the merited posts, to make sure they're worth the Merit.

First of all merit is difficult to get, even if a person get 15 merits in 120, you still want him to be checked if the posts were worth merit.

The merit which you have received till now are all worth it ?

I would suggest you make a job more easier for Steve is to give the list of people which should be included in the campaign and also the high rates, so you can post few posts a week and enjoy the living.. Grin

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June 11, 2019, 04:28:17 PM
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I think it might finally be time to release the most iconic spreadsheet member list ever known to Bitcointalk. I've kept it private because I didn't want people abusing it since it had Telegram names, Bitcointalk names and Stake names all in one place.
Why don't you take a few examples of other professional managers in running your campaign.
You run the SteveStake campaign, hiding everything, as if this is your forum, it does not display Sreadsheets, this is ridiculous, when you have a problem with spam in forums by your campaign participants, now you are just acting like a fool.
There have been thousands of campaigns held at this Forum but not like your campaign, like terrorists covering the identity of participants.
you should close your campaign, and display it like any other campaign, which is in this forum.
If the reason you are afraid of being misused by a telegram, so far many campaigns have been implemented in this forum and participants have to join the telegram, but I see it safe for the maneger.
Professional people mean: "transparent" does not hide their identity.

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Why do you call Steve a non-legit manager?


Right now i only see a group of dumbasses trying to force him to play by their inside rules to exclude the majority of current posters and being hypocritical claiming that these posters spam because of low payment rate but at the same time make it impossible for them to join better-paid campaigns.

You guys are pathetic
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Why do you call Steve a non-legit manager?
OP is evidently incompetent (this is a fact, not an opinion at this point) and is damaging the whole forum due to his own greed and stupidity.

This is getting ridicoulous.

Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? Undecided That would be within the new guidelines.
It has been almost a full 4 months since this was fully brought up, with little to no improvement whatsoever. Changes =/= improvements.

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Why do you call Steve a non-legit manager?
OP is evidently incompetent (this is a fact, not an opinion at this point) and is damaging the whole forum due to his own greed and stupidity.

This is getting ridicoulous.

Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? Undecided That would be within the new guidelines.
It has been almost a full 4 months since this was fully brought up, with little to no improvement whatsoever. Changes =/= improvements.


The main incompetent user on this forum who is doing the most harm to this forum is you Lauda and nobody else.

Noone ranks near you.

You already proofed your professionalism by stealing peoples BCH as an escrow.
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June 11, 2019, 06:28:14 PM
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Right now i only see a group of dumbasses trying to force him to play by their inside rules to exclude the majority of current posters and being hypocritical claiming that these posters spam because of low payment rate but at the same time make it impossible for them to join better-paid campaigns.

Spammers get accepted into stake campaign because they can't qualify to higher-paid campaigns that have higher standards. That doesn't make it right for stake to subsidize the spam. This is a forum, not a billboard.

I bet if you were a city planner you would argue the street needs to be removed to make way for more ads:

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Right now i only see a group of dumbasses trying to force him to play by their inside rules to exclude the majority of current posters and being hypocritical claiming that these posters spam because of low payment rate but at the same time make it impossible for them to join better-paid campaigns.

Spammers get accepted into stake campaign because they can't qualify to higher-paid campaigns that have higher standards. That doesn't make it right for stake to subsidize the spam. This is a forum, not a billboard.

I bet if you were a city planner you would argue the street needs to be removed to make way for more ads:

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People who are not able to your fucking moronic standards are not automatically spammers.
You are fucking idiots who automatically put anybody into a scammer and spammer category which doesn't fit your so-called moronic standards which majority doesn't agree with
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June 11, 2019, 06:56:54 PM
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People who are not able to your fucking moronic standards are not automatically spammers.
You are fucking idiots who automatically put anybody into a scammer and spammer category which doesn't fit your so-called moronic standards which majority doesn't agree with

You implicitly agree with forum rules by posting here and spam, low value posts, plagiarism, etc is against the rules. And signature advertising is a privilege that needs to be earned and not abused.
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People who are not able to your fucking moronic standards are not automatically spammers.
You are fucking idiots who automatically put anybody into a scammer and spammer category which doesn't fit your so-called moronic standards which majority doesn't agree with

You implicitly agree with forum rules by posting here and spam, low value posts, plagiarism, etc is against the rules. And signature advertising is a privilege that needs to be earned and not abused.


Having no merit earned doesn't mean you post low quality.
And your claim that the privilege needs to be earned is total nonsense.
But since you are such a good DT member who wouldn't make up lies maybe you can point me to the rules where it says that the privilege to participate in signature campaigns need to be earned and that this claim is not made up by a small group of idiots

Waiting for your response where I doubt you will link to that rule which you claim exist.
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Having no merit earned doesn't mean you post low quality.

Not an absolute measure perhaps but it does to a high degree, particularly as a ratio of merit-to-post count.

And your claim that the privilege needs to be earned is total nonsense.
But since you are such a good DT member who wouldn't make up lies maybe you can point me to the rules where it says that the privilege to participate in signature campaigns need to be earned and that this claim is not made up by a small group of idiots

Waiting for your response where I doubt you will link to that rule which you claim exist.

You need to earn a certain rank to be able to use certain features in your signature, making it suitable for advertising. And forum admins (and global mods nowadays) can take it away in a heartbeat if you break the rules in a particularly egregious way. Sounds very much like a privilege that needs to be earned.
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Having no merit earned doesn't mean you post low quality.

Not an absolute measure perhaps but it does to a high degree, particularly as a ratio of merit-to-post count.

And your claim that the privilege needs to be earned is total nonsense.
But since you are such a good DT member who wouldn't make up lies maybe you can point me to the rules where it says that the privilege to participate in signature campaigns need to be earned and that this claim is not made up by a small group of idiots

Waiting for your response where I doubt you will link to that rule which you claim exist.

You need to earn a certain rank to be able to use certain features in you signature, making it suitable for advertising. And forum admins (and global mods nowadays) can take it away in a heartbeat if you break the rules in a particularly egregious way. Sounds very much like a privilege that needs to be earned.


A forum rank has in the majority of accounts nothing to do with earned merit.


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Not an absolute measure perhaps but it does to a high degree, particularly as a ratio of merit-to-post count.
You just admitted you accept a high-grade of collateral.
So you basicly give a fuck to the other high amount of forum members who gets unfairly treaten by that campaign rule.
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June 11, 2019, 08:42:29 PM
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maybe you can point me to the rules where it says that the privilege to participate in signature campaigns need to be earned
Perhaps you could point to the rule which says that every member who joins this forum has a right to display a signature and participate in a signature campaign, regardless of how much they spam or how low value their posts are?

No one has the right to even hold an account on this forum, let alone a signature or be part of a campaign. If you break the rules, your privileges will be removed, be that a signature ban or an account ban.
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Kick out everyone who earned less than 15 Merit in the last 120 days. Check the merited posts, to make sure they're worth the Merit. That should largely reduce the amount of spam.
Then, increase pay rates for the good posters, keep a public list of participants, and check their posts before paying. This is a lot of work, ask for a raise if needed.

Seriously Huh
You should know that merit system does not work as it should be. Most of the merit revolves around the Gang members .

I have seen plenty of Jr Members, Members doing superb posts and getting no merits. However, Gang members do give  1 Merit to Newbies to become a Jr. Member and 10 merits to a Jr Member to become a member and consider they have done the job.  Wink  Don't give me 10 example where a person move from Jr Member to Hero......and ignore the 1000000 cases where he can't move up  Grin You people think everyone else is mad and only you are wise.

Check the merited posts, to make sure they're worth the Merit.

First of all merit is difficult to get, even if a person get 15 merits in 120, you still want him to be checked if the posts were worth merit.

The merit which you have received till now are all worth it ?

I would suggest you make a job more easier for Steve is to give the list of people which should be included in the campaign and also the high rates, so you can post few posts a week and enjoy the living.. Grin

I agree and have pointed out the same: a lot of the merit simply goes to those who have already accumulated merit - it doesn't necessarily flow to quality posts. I have been a professional writer and use proper grammar and spelling, and make sure my posts have substance, and I rarely get merit. Right now I am interacting with the thread and am not just posting to post.

A requirement of 15 earned merits would exclude me, and it's not clear it would favor those with more quality posts. The merit just does not flow around. People can argue differently, but so be it.
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maybe you can point me to the rules where it says that the privilege to participate in signature campaigns need to be earned
Perhaps you could point to the rule which says that every member who joins this forum has a right to display a signature and participate in a signature campaign, regardless of how much they spam or how low value their posts are?

No one has the right to even hold an account on this forum, let alone a signature or be part of a campaign. If you break the rules, your privileges will be removed, be that a signature ban or an account ban.



So you wanna say people who didn't get accepted on high paid campaigns broke the forum rules and that's why they are not being accepted?
Or is it because of the low earned amount of merit, negative trust, and other stupid metrics?


Has Lauda more rights than a newly registered user on that forum per forum rules?
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So you wanna say people who didn't get accepted on high paid campaigns broke the forum rules and that's why they are not being accepted?
No, and I never said that.

If you aren't getting accepted to a high paid campaign, it is because there are other people who, in the eyes of the manager of said campaign, are making better posts than you and are taking the available slots. If you want to be accepted to a high paid campaign, then you should examine your own posting behaviors and seek to improve them.

Or is it because of the low earned amount of merit, negative trust, and other stupid metrics?
Some campaigns have a merit requirements or a trust requirement. This is entirely at the discretion of the manager of said campaign. If you don't like these metrics, then you are free to not apply to campaigns which stipulate said metrics.
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If you aren't getting accepted to a high paid campaign, it is because there are other people who, in the eyes of the manager of said campaign, are making better posts than you and are taking the available slots. If you want to be accepted to a high paid campaign, then you should examine your own posting behaviors and seek to improve them.

How can they know it when not checking my content but denying because of merit, negative trust or anything else but not for content?


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Some campaigns have a merit requirements or a trust requirement. This is entirely at the discretion of the manager of said campaign. If you don't like these metrics, then you are free to not apply to campaigns which stipulate said metrics.


This one clearly hasn't so why does he get bashed to implement them? Putting all low ranked members into general suspicion?
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Why do you call Steve a non-legit manager?
OP is evidently incompetent (this is a fact, not an opinion at this point) and is damaging the whole forum due to his own greed and stupidity.

This is getting ridicoulous.

Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? Undecided That would be within the new guidelines.
It has been almost a full 4 months since this was fully brought up, with little to no improvement whatsoever. Changes =/= improvements.

Says someone who has been accused of extortion and all the possible shit ongoing here. Seriously dude , you talk about greed ? You are greed in personification.
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This one clearly hasn't so why does he get bashed to implement them?

This was answered in the first post:

Dude... stop paying spammers, problem solved.

IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB TO DEAL WITH THIS. You're abusing the forum by flooding it with spam and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.
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This one clearly hasn't so why does he get bashed to implement them?

This was answered in the first post:

Dude... stop paying spammers, problem solved.

IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB TO DEAL WITH THIS. You're abusing the forum by flooding it with spam and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.


Increasing merit requirements and negative trust have nothing to do with spam. That's BS
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This one clearly hasn't so why does he get bashed to implement them?

This was answered in the first post:

Dude... stop paying spammers, problem solved.

IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB TO DEAL WITH THIS. You're abusing the forum by flooding it with spam and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.


Increasing merit requirements and negative trust have nothing to do with spam. That's BS

I totally agree with it. I am a victim of it, can't join a nice signature campaign although I have never scammed anyone and I am better than the average joe poster here.
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June 12, 2019, 12:27:56 AM
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Okay I just want to point out involving merits into a a signature campaign won't work out. All that will do is encourage merit abuse and then everyone will say, "Oh look at that SteveStake now and his merit abuse! This merit abuse is clearly because the wages are too low!"

I tried to involve merit into the campaign in the past and I consider it the biggest failure in the entire campaign. I held a contest and the people who earned the most merit for the week would split a few hundred dollars in prizes. I say it was the biggest failure because I had to kick so many people out for merit abuse and people were breaking rules and begging for merit. Merit is abused heavily already without someone else giving incentive to "earn" it. If I add in merit rules to the contest we can guarantee a SteveStake is encouraging merit abuse thread.

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June 12, 2019, 12:32:59 AM
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Okay I just want to point out involving merits into a a signature campaign won't work out. All that will do is encourage merit abuse and then everyone will say, "Oh look at that SteveStake now and his merit abuse! This merit abuse is clearly because the wages are too low!"

I tried to involve merit into the campaign in the past and I consider it the biggest failure in the entire campaign. I held a contest and the people who earned the most merit for the week would split a few hundred dollars in prizes. I say it was the biggest failure because I had to kick so many people out for merit abuse and people were breaking rules and begging for merit. Merit is abused heavily already without someone else giving incentive to "earn" it. If I add in merit rules to the contest we can guarantee a SteveStake is encouraging merit abuse thread.

I will stand by this no matter how unpopular: merit abuse is a problem, not just in terms of fraudulent handing out of merits but also in the circle of merit-issuance among regulars. A lot of the merits are handed out to those who have already amassed a bunch of merits. I would even go as far as to say that some members of high rank are getting merits for low quality posts, just because... it seems the norm in the forum to send merits to people who have already accumulated them. I suppose the problem here is the politicization of merits.

If people have a fit over this, so be it. I know it's not popular to bring this up.
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June 12, 2019, 12:50:55 AM
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Okay I just want to point out involving merits into a a signature campaign won't work out. All that will do is encourage merit abuse and then everyone will say, "Oh look at that SteveStake now and his merit abuse! This merit abuse is clearly because the wages are too low!"


    It appears that the fact that the wages are too low is the crux of the problem. You get what you pay for. Although stake.com is getting their ad splattered all over the forum in great quantity, you really think it's giving them a good reputation around here? Frustrating readers with a bunch of shit posts probably is going to make more people stay away than actually click on the link and become a new customer.
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June 12, 2019, 12:53:49 AM
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There have been thousands of campaigns held at this Forum but not like your campaign

I take this as a compliment man, after all it is titled "A New Kind of Campaign" When I saw all of these campaigns it didn't take long for me to realise it could be done better and cheaper and that's what made me one of the most successful campaign managers on Bitcointalk.


What even is spam? (not aimed at anyone specifically)

It's not even fair to call people who are trying their hardest to make posts a spammer. A spammer is someone who intentionally makes low quality posts over and over again. I've seen people go as far to say if you're from a certain country you're automatically a shit poster and that's just not fair at all. I've seen many people here make racists remarks towards members of this community simply because things like English isn't their first language and say that means they shouldn't be allowed to be here. Everyone deserves equality and a fair chance regardless of if you're a 0 merit newbie with English as a second language or a 3000+ merit Legendary with English as a first language. We should be more focused on treating each other as human beings and not treating each other based on a merit system full of abuse. I had a surgery earlier in the year and my surgeon didn't speak great English when we talked. Does this mean I should have dismissed his opinions and looked at him as someone who wasn't credible?

I'm not saying people should be full out responding in other languages. I'm saying a lot of what makes someone considered a "spammer" are grammer errors smaller than the one you were so eager to point out just now.

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June 12, 2019, 01:02:55 AM
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I won't cast stones from my glass house as I am very much aware of some of my campaigns having some lower quality posters in them. However, Steve, you seem reluctant to acknowledge the issue or make any changes that would benefit the forum overall. But then again I can't blame you. I think all that you've done has been very aware. While I disagree that the spam issue would give stake a bad name I believe it to be the opposite.. The more the name is seen, the more it is getting inside other users heads and even if someone gets pissed they might visit the site and then see that they actually enjoy it.

I tip my fedora to you Steve, it takes balls to put on this act and if you follow through with it (which it very much looks like you will), you'll probably stand to gain more than you'd ever lose.

Question, do you do anything else at Stake or do you only handle the campaign related things?

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June 12, 2019, 01:03:26 AM
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There have been thousands of campaigns held at this Forum but not like your campaign

I take this as a compliment man, after all it is titled "A New Kind of Campaign" When I saw all of these campaigns it didn't take long for me to realise it could be done better and cheaper and that's what made me one of the most successful campaign managers on Bitcointalk.


What even is spam? (not aimed at anyone specifically)

It's not even fair to call people who are trying their hardest to make posts a spammer. A spammer is someone who intentionally makes low quality posts over and over again. I've seen people go as far to say if you're from a certain country you're automatically a shit poster and that's just not fair at all. I've seen many people here make racists remarks towards members of this community simply because things like English isn't their first language and say that means they shouldn't be allowed to be here. Everyone deserves equality and a fair chance regardless of if you're a 0 merit newbie with English as a second language or a 3000+ merit Legendary with English as a first language. We should be more focused on treating each other as human beings and not treating each other based on a merit system full of abuse. I had a surgery earlier in the year and my surgeon didn't speak great English when we talked. Does this mean I should have dismissed his opinions and looked at him as someone who wasn't credible?

I'm not saying people should be full out responding in other languages. I'm saying a lot of what makes someone considered a "spammer" are grammer errors smaller than the one you were so eager to point out just now.

The politicization of merits, which I'd argue is a type of merit abuse, encourages a form of spamming by high-ranked members. It encourages some members to be hostile to others who are disliked or less popular, and to continue low-quality posts. It also reinforces the cycle of handing out merits to people who have already accumulated merits.

My aim, though, is not to call anyone out or antagonize. I am just pointing to a real problem preventing newer members from rising through the ranks.
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June 12, 2019, 01:07:55 AM
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Okay I just want to point out involving merits into a a signature campaign won't work out. All that will do is encourage merit abuse and then everyone will say, "Oh look at that SteveStake now and his merit abuse! This merit abuse is clearly because the wages are too low!"

Of course it won't work if you rely entirely on the merit requirement, like you seem to rely on ranks here:

I assumed anyone who was capable of achieving a rank such as Senior member or higher without being banned was credible enough to be given a chance.

Merit is not a solution, it's one of the tools you can use to filter the pool of candidates to a manageable set. You still need to... you know... manage the campaign, including your obligation to the forum to not encourage low effort spammy posts. If that involves paying more and/or limiting max number of posts and/or kicking out low quality posters - that's what you gotta do.

Your lazy arrogance is almost like a work of art, well done.
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June 12, 2019, 01:16:25 AM
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What even is spam? (not aimed at anyone specifically)

I'd like to hear your opinion of why you would consider this post among the high quality non-spammy posts that your campaign members are making. We may have different thoughts on spam, so I'd love to hear your point of view. This post was written by lyks15, a user's who's posts that aren't spam in your perspective, as you are content with paying them for this post:
I think this is not a good idea. Because when we do some promotion about gambling there are so many people that against about crypto will have a chance to hate and bash crypto more because it is connected to gambling and it may affect about crypto price and demand. But if there is something advestisement who can explain well about game or gambling I think this is possible.

This is post #167 in the thread What do you think about the gambling site's having a promotion? that is now locked almost certainly due to becoming a spam megathread. This was the original thread, posted a bit over a month before lyks15's high quality non-spam response:

Quote from: nakamura12
Hello guys,

What do you guys think about the gambling site's promotion? Does the promotion of the site help you playing their games?
What would be the best that the site had to implement in their site like loss back where you'll get a percentage of the money you lose after playing or receiving percentage of your money that you bet?

Share your thoughts about the gambling sites where they have those kind of system that the gamblers can benefit from it.

Anyway, I am not planning to have a gambling site where I just want to find a gambling site where you can benefit from their site even if it just small but it can help the gambling site and more players will come to play and the gambling site's traffic would also increase.

My question to you: What do you see in the post that makes you think that it is not spam? What value does it add, what is the point of the post and/or what makes it interesting? Keep in mind that 166 posts were written before it.

I'd love to hear your rationale. Thanks in advance.

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June 12, 2019, 04:13:53 AM
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Someone from Bitcointalk's Staff / Moderators or Global Moderators doing a lousy work deleting my posts on both Primedice and Stake Official topics.
Just because i have my signature as the one from the campaign doesn't mean i am posting for the campaign.

I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day, so if you do not have any sort of knowledge whatsoever on why I am advertising both Primedice and Stake as i am the Official Brand Manager you could just ask or even check Signature's Campaign old sheet where you would see i have 0 post counts and i am not even getting paid for the campaign at first place since i was the one who said Steve to not count them at all.

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June 12, 2019, 04:23:46 AM
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What even is spam? (not aimed at anyone specifically)

I'd like to hear your opinion of why you would consider this post among the high quality non-spammy posts that your campaign members are making. We may have different thoughts on spam, so I'd love to hear your point of view. This post was written by lyks15, a user's who's posts that aren't spam in your perspective, as you are content with paying them for this post:
I think this is not a good idea. Because when we do some promotion about gambling there are so many people that against about crypto will have a chance to hate and bash crypto more because it is connected to gambling and it may affect about crypto price and demand. But if there is something advestisement who can explain well about game or gambling I think this is possible.

This is post #167 in the thread What do you think about the gambling site's having a promotion? that is now locked almost certainly due to becoming a spam megathread. This was the original thread, posted a bit over a month before lyks15's high quality non-spam response:

Quote from: nakamura12
Hello guys,

What do you guys think about the gambling site's promotion? Does the promotion of the site help you playing their games?
What would be the best that the site had to implement in their site like loss back where you'll get a percentage of the money you lose after playing or receiving percentage of your money that you bet?

Share your thoughts about the gambling sites where they have those kind of system that the gamblers can benefit from it.

Anyway, I am not planning to have a gambling site where I just want to find a gambling site where you can benefit from their site even if it just small but it can help the gambling site and more players will come to play and the gambling site's traffic would also increase.

My question to you: What do you see in the post that makes you think that it is not spam? What value does it add, what is the point of the post and/or what makes it interesting? Keep in mind that 166 posts were written before it.

I'd love to hear your rationale. Thanks in advance.

I agree that the mentioned post is a spam but that thread contains 186 posts . Now i need your clarification whether  a) Remaining 185 posts are not spammy ones ? (Are all of them are good ones)
b) Or you people focus is only on stake signature posts and close your eyes on other posst with or without signatures.

Its seems the the agenda is to ban the stake campaign or change the manager  ( And not the fight against spam) ?

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I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day

You are very clearly breaking the forum rules:

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]

This isn't related to Stake's spam issue, this is just you choosing not to follow the rules and thus getting posts deleted because of it. Other sites like Betcoin have had posts deleted for the same thing.



I agree that the mentioned post is a spam but that thread contains 186 posts . Now i need your clarification whether  a) Remaining 185 posts are not spammy ones ? (Are all of them are good ones)
b) Or you people focus is only on stake signature posts and close your eyes on other posst with or without signatures.

Its seems the the agenda is to ban the stake campaign or change the manager  ( And not the fight against spam) ?

No, there is plenty of spam there. The whole thread barring the first maybe 3-4 pages should be deleted. Here's my page of reports against someone in the BitVest campaign. Here's a page against someone in the Veil campaign (whatever that is). Maybe 75% of a page against someone in LiveCoin. There is a lot of Stake in my reports as they're spamming the normal Gambling section that I kinda care about but others are being reported as well for the same reason.


I  have been a professional writer and use propper grammar and spelling, and make sure my posts have substance, and I rarely get merit. Right now I am interacting with the thread and am not just posting to post.

Mods seem to disagree for some of your posts. (and ironically, you spelt proper incorrectly)

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June 12, 2019, 04:36:05 AM
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I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day

You are very clearly breaking the forum rules:

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]

This isn't related to Stake's spam issue, this is just you choosing not to follow the rules and thus getting posts deleted because of it. Other sites like Betcoin have had posts deleted for the same thing.

You do really look for a way to prove justifying your statements using Bitcointalk's rules, FAQs and everything else don't you?
Where are you seeing me bumping / updating the topic on those deleted messages?

You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

You can even see others posting other informations.
So what you are saying is that if someone uses his ALT account to:

- ALT POSTS
- I POST
- ALT POSTS again

Are not considered bumping. That's so nice of you to look into deeply into the topic's situation. You do seem worried about justfying Stake's Primedice's actions so much that you have to dig up rules from the forum to justify your statements again.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

We get it you are Chipmixer OP - Therefore you have a reason to strongly suggest the mods to ruin the competition and everything else above all.

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You do really have a way to prove justifying your statements using Bitcointalk's rules, FAQs and everything else don't you?
Where are you seeing me bumping / updating the topic on those deleted messages?

You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: You believe that a site owner can hire a community manager who is then allowed to bump the thread every 5 minutes to ensure it stays at the top? They aren't the OP, so it very clearly[1] does not apply. Also, what so bad about using the forum rules to help enforce forum rules? I feel like you're trying to attach a negative connotation but I'm not seeing how I'm supposed to feel attacked.

How many normal users post a reminder that you can find the bet archive? How many normal users call themselves the Stake Brand Manager?

[1] - Source? I can't find anything about this condition but you seem to believe in it to the fullest extent.

So what you are saying is that if someone uses his ALT account to:

- ALT POSTS
- I POST
- ALT POSTS again

Are not considered bumping.

Mods have locked many Altcoin ANNs for this exact scenario. Here is one example.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

We get it you are Chipmixer OP - Therefore you have a reason to strongly suggest the mods to ruin the competition and everything else above all.

Someone reported them. (not me) Take it up with the mods if you wish. Also, please provide proof that ChipMixer = DarkStar_ rather than making baseless claims. I have no influence over the actions of moderators and simply use the report system as it was intended.

Arguing with me is not going to help. PM theymos directly if you wish to complain about his moderators incorrectly enforcing rules or start a Meta thread about mod abuse.

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June 12, 2019, 04:47:10 AM
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Too bad Bitcointalk has so many rules which are not beeing followed 24/7 100% to everyone right?

When the post is deleted it should have a concrete evidence on why it was deleted and not the "other reasons" because now you speculate they were deleted because it was considered a BUMP / UPDATE (to you just because i said i post twice). What a dam coincidence for them to be deleted Yesterday right?

And another thing: If you do think rules should be followed 100% then every campaign should just be erased of the Forum including yours since they incentivate people posting just for the profit which can still be considered as intended SPAM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_spam:
Forum spam consists of posts on Internet forums that contains related or unrelated advertisements, links to malicious websites, trolling and abusive or otherwise unwanted information. Forum spam is usually posted onto message boards by automated spambots or manually with unscrupulous intentions with one idea in mind: to get the spam in front of readers who would not otherwise have anything to do with it intentionally.

So basically yeah you also have spam on everything.

PS: I have the obligation to answer everyone and provide such feedback to the users who seek for information on the topic.

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June 12, 2019, 04:49:03 AM
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You do really have a way to prove justifying your statements using Bitcointalk's rules, FAQs and everything else don't you?
Where are you seeing me bumping / updating the topic on those deleted messages?

You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: You believe that a site owner can hire a community manager who is then allowed to bump the thread every 5 minutes to ensure it stays at the top? They aren't the OP, so it very clearly[1] does not apply. Also, what so bad about using the forum rules to help enforce forum rules? I feel like you're trying to attach a negative connotation but I'm not seeing how I'm supposed to feel attacked.



Does it means that a single person can post in a ANN thread once every 24 hours ? ( Even if he is not a OP, Manager, user with or without any signature)

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And another thing: If you do think rules should be followed 100% then every campaign should just be erased of the Forum including yours since they incentivate people posting just for the profit which can still be considered as intended SPAM.

If theymos feels that all campaigns create spam, then I would hope that he takes action against all campaigns sooner or later. I would also highly recommend that you begin reporting the posts of ChipMixer campaigners, as you believe they are spamming. Attack ChipMixer's campaign where it hurts, and make sure that ChipMixer is given a signature ban.

Ignoring that, I have a fun fact for you: There's no rules against spam (only ref spam).

PS: I have the obligation to answer everyone and provide such feedback to the users who seek for information on the topic.

Moderators have the obligation to deleted posts that break the rules. There's no point in arguing with me - I strongly encourage you to create a thread in Meta about how moderators are abusing their power in the Stake thread if you believe that they were unfairly deleted.


Does it means that a single person can post in a ANN thread once every 24 hours ? ( Even if he is not a OP, Manager, user with or without any signature)

No, legitimate discussions are allowed. Symphonized's title is "Official Primedice's / Stake's Brand Manager" so I'm guessing mods count them as updates.

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June 12, 2019, 04:56:26 AM
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No, legitimate discussions are allowed. Symphonized's title is "Official Primedice's / Stake's Brand Manager" so I'm guessing mods count them as updates.

Or someone reported just because of the signature and they just "hell press delete immediatly"

I would be just glad on the concrete delete reason that's all. I asumed it was due to my signature.

Will still give a PM on theymos to verify what where the reasons about the deletions (if in fact due to being considered as BUMP / UPDATE) or something else.

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No, legitimate discussions are allowed. Symphonized's title is "Official Primedice's / Stake's Brand Manager" so I'm guessing mods count them as updates.

Or someone reported just because of the signature and they just "hell press delete immediatly"

I have about 100 unhandled reports in queue since yesterday. I would say maybe 33% of the users have Stake signatures. If mods are deleting solely based on having a Stake signature, someone should tell them to hurry up and delete that 33%

Someone should also create a thread in Meta and PM theymos about how moderators are abusing their permission to try to earn more money by deleting posts without properly checking them.

Once more, arguing with me about the moderators actions is pointless. Make a thread about the mod abuse that you strongly believe in with the claims that you have the strongest evidence to back up. Still waiting on a source for "the bump rule only applies to the OP of the thread" by the way. If you find it, then I apologise in advance for incorrectly interpreting the forum rules and unintentionally misleading you.

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June 12, 2019, 05:08:57 AM
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Attack ChipMixer's campaign where it hurts, and make sure that ChipMixer is given a signature ban.

Attacking a ChipMixer campaign is like putting your hand in the fire  Wink

PM theymos about how moderators are abusing their permission to try to earn more money by deleting posts without properly checking them.

Do Mod earn by deleting the posts ?  Shocked  That's a new thing for me

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Attack ChipMixer's campaign where it hurts, and make sure that ChipMixer is given a signature ban.

Attacking a ChipMixer campaign is like putting your hand in the fire  Wink

PM theymos about how moderators are abusing their permission to try to earn more money by deleting posts without properly checking them.

Do Mod earn by deleting the thread ?  Shocked  That's a new thing for me

Use the forum report system if you feel that way. I don't think mods reveal who is behind what reports, so no one will attack you. You could also make a new alt account if you feel retaliation. Do note that I will happily listen to reports against specific users via PM and will award a small bounty to those who's actions of reporting a user directly leads to them being removed. PM me via an alt if you wish. I'm sorry you feel that way against the campaign, but I don't believe neither ChipMixer or I have 'attacked' anyone for speaking negative things against the campaign. IIRC I haven't left negative trust feedback to those that have spoken against me either, unlike some of the other people you dislike.

I might be remembering incorrectly but I believe mods are paid for the number of moderator actions they do or something along those lines. I'll try to find it tomorrow if I don't forget; heading to sleep now.

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I might be remembering incorrectly but I believe mods are paid for the number of moderator actions they do or something along those lines. I'll try to find it tomorrow if I don't forget; heading to sleep now.
don't quite remember where it was posted but i believe theymos has said the mods are distributed a small amount from the forum ad auctions according to how many boards they manage / how many reports they handle.

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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Mods seem to disagree for some of your posts. (and ironically, you spelt proper incorrectly)

I agree, and I can admit when I'm wrong or make a mistake. It's weird because I have never gotten so many reports of abuse or had posts deleted until I started posting in this thread. I suspect I upset one of the mods because all of a sudden almost every one of my posts is getting flagged. Some of the posts of mine that got deleted even referenced sources - like one referencing Mati Greenspan of eToro. I admit a couple of the posts that got deleted probably deserved it.

Anyway, I may take a break from posting in this forum because this is getting a bit... hot or weird.
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June 12, 2019, 08:12:13 AM
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Your participants have a median of 3 merit, nearly 40% have zero or 1 merit, and nearly 2/3 have 5 or less merit. There are 51 accounts that posted in your signature campaign thread that are perma banned, and although they all might not have been participating in your campaign when they were banned, I suspect the majority of them probably were.

Are you making this stuff up to try and bait me to count the merits?
If over 80% of the campaign is full member+ how can 40% have 1 merit? I'll give you something more accurate than the median merits of the campaign, the average including Jr/Members

367.94 average merits for a Stake campaign member. It doesn't take much effort to find out your claim is 100% false
My claim is not false. It assumes that everyone who posted an application and is still wearing a stake.com signature is a participant in your signature campaign, which I have every reason to believe considering it appears you have accepted everyone who applied except those with negative trust.

If you had an account when the merit system was implemented, you were grandfathered in and received merit equal to the minimum needed for your then-current rank. My post was referring to the merit that people received subsequent to the implementation of the merit system and excludes any grandfathered merit received.

My numbers were accurate as of this past Sunday when I obtained my data, and are almost certainly still accurate.
I look at your list of 51 banned accounts and I don't even know who majority of them even are. This is completely flawed because you're making your own list of people so your information is false.
These are not random people, nor are they my own list. They are people who have posted in your signature campaign thread and are currently banned. When I have more time, I will cross reference these people against those who actually submitted applications, which I would assume to by the majority of those banned.
Low merits does not mean someone is incapable of a good post either. Are you incapable of being trusted or making a good post because your trust level is so negative?
1 - Not receiving many merits is a good indication the person is not making very many good posts. It is possible that some people who make a lot of good posts may not have merit, however this is not the case with participants in your signature campaign. The amount of merit a person has received is a quick way to objectively measure a person's post quality
2 - You appear to believe having negative trust is a reason why someone is "incapable of being trusted or making a good post" as you do not accept negative trusted people into your signature campaign. Also, I did ask to join your campaign, which you ignored, however if I was participating in your campaign, I would have left because of a) the low pay rates, and b) because I do not want to be associated with the amount of spam your campaign generates

Another thing, I'm fully aware what some of you are doing when you put a Stake signature on and then start trolling without being part of the campaign.

Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg51190436#msg51190436

There was never a point Souldream was ever in this campaign yet he was wearing the signature getting banned for plagiarism.
That is strange because he applied to your campaign, and I don't see any evidence of you rejecting anyone who applied. Why did you not accept this person?


However the root cause is that you are paying garbage rates

Higher pay rates will only encourage people to post more and lower pay rates encourage people to post less. If we truly want to see spam gone then remove all pay per post features because that will always encourage spam. Once I lowered the pay rates I saw an instant decrease in spam and it worked out well. I suggest other campaign managers stop over paying for posts because your supply of posters far surpasses your demand for them. But sure everyone is going to hate me for saying that even though it's true because so many are making a career out of Bitcointalk
You are ignoring the fact that your low pay rate is not going to attract those who are capable of making coherent posts. You are also ignoring the fact that the majority of people in your campaign have no business getting paid to post.
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Okay I just want to point out involving merits into a a signature campaign won't work out. All that will do is encourage merit abuse and then everyone will say, "Oh look at that SteveStake now and his merit abuse! This merit abuse is clearly because the wages are too low!"

I tried to involve merit into the campaign in the past and I consider it the biggest failure in the entire campaign. I held a contest and the people who earned the most merit for the week would split a few hundred dollars in prizes. I say it was the biggest failure because I had to kick so many people out for merit abuse and people were breaking rules and begging for merit. Merit is abused heavily already without someone else giving incentive to "earn" it. If I add in merit rules to the contest we can guarantee a SteveStake is encouraging merit abuse thread.

Merits can be a good barometer of consistently good posters, but they shouldn't be something you rely on solely to judge a person and they're useless if you just require x amount because they can easily be gamed or farmed. This whole issue of spam in your campaign could have been prevented just by doing a simple quality control and only allowing decent posters. What you've essentially done is put an advert out for your company that it is hiring people and without a job interview or aptitude test you've given jobs to random people who are not qualified to do the work. Imagine staffing an office this way along with the manager never being there. It would quickly descend into chaos and people being lazy and not doing their job properly, especially when there was no repercussions for doing a shoddy job.

I had a surgery earlier in the year and my surgeon didn't speak great English when we talked. Does this mean I should have dismissed his opinions and looked at him as someone who wasn't credible?

I'm not saying people should be full out responding in other languages. I'm saying a lot of what makes someone considered a "spammer" are grammer errors smaller than the one you were so eager to point out just now.

I'm assuming your surgeon was qualified for surgery. Would you have been ok with some random person performing the surgery who didn't have any appropriate qualifications? I can't speak any other language other than English, but imagine if I go to a non-English speaking message board and try. It would be a disaster and that's what happens here. People who can't speak English very well, if at all, are forcing themselves to do so because there's financial reward. Because of signature campaigns many people even come here who have little to no knowledge or interest in bitcoin. That would be like me joining an Italian forum on Lamborghinis when I can't drive, can't speak Italian and have no interest in Lamborghinis, but if I can get paid to post there then I might try and that's the issue we have here.

At this time, the biggest source of spam in this forum is the campaign in which you are the manager, and after months of doing nothing you ask members of this forum to clear your mess?

That's simply not true. Be a leader not a follower, you only say that because someone else did and if you research yourself you'd know there's a massive spam issue long before this campaign and there will be one long after. I'm not asking anyone to do anything and I'm simply providing a place for people to report any campaign spammer if they choose. People try to do it in random places across the forum already so it only makes sense to provide 1 place for people to post.

Signature spam has always been a problem here but passing off the blame doesn't excuse you from your responsibility. Yobit was the worst campaign this forum had seen for quite some time and they were dealt with by the first forum signature ban because of the mess they were causing. Yours is the worse now they're gone. It's honestly been embarrassing even having a Stake signature and I'm glad my deal expires next week because wearing a Stake sig has become like a badge of shame much like it was with Yobit. Maybe your goal was achieved as Stake have certainly got their name out there in the cheapest possible way but they did it in an unsavoury way that left a bad taste in many mouths.

Sure some people made low quality posts but it's the minority of members and people are taking out years of frustration towards Bitcointalk on a single campaign that's not even that old. I feel like the Stake campaign is turning into an antispam awareness movement. I don't mind taking the beating if it leads to a greater outcome in the end.

I would disagree with this and I think you've got it the wrong way around. Most people bearing a Stake sig seemed to be spammers and I saw very few making worthwhile contributions so the quality posters must have been the minority. Maybe there was some and I didn't see them or maybe the spammers just dwarfed the everyone else but the spam coming from this campaign was ridiculous. As a mod I probably see it the most and it wasn't uncommon just to see post after post of lazy generic replies from Stake spammers page after page. Great for Stake as their adverts are everywhere but not so great for everyone else who has to read it.

As I've said multiple times before signature campaigns could actually help to clean up the forum but only if they do their job well and don't pay for spam. If a campaign accepts anyone and everyone then it's going to be abused and become the next Yobit. If campaign managers only accepted worthwhile contributors then spam would clear up overnight, but it won't when campaigns keep having little to no standards.

Someone from Bitcointalk's Staff / Moderators or Global Moderators doing a lousy work deleting my posts on both Primedice and Stake Official topics.
Just because i have my signature as the one from the campaign doesn't mean i am posting for the campaign.

I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day, so if you do not have any sort of knowledge whatsoever on why I am advertising both Primedice and Stake as i am the Official Brand Manager you could just ask or even check Signature's Campaign old sheet where you would see i have 0 post counts and i am not even getting paid for the campaign at first place since i was the one who said Steve to not count them at all.

Video containing all 9 deleted Primedice / Stake's advertising posts just because someone felt like it was considered spam: https://imgur.com/a/nW2EZPU

This has nothing to do with the Stake campaign and I didn't remove them, but you've essentially inadvertently told everyone you're being paid to bump the thread multiple times a day, which is against the rules and that's exactly what someone has reported them for. Threads should only be bumped once per 24 hours and you can't have multiple company members bumping threads as it's seen as bump spam.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

Someone reported them and a mod acted on them.

We get it you are Chipmixer OP - Therefore you have a reason to strongly suggest the mods to ruin the competition and everything else above all.

I don't see how Chipmixer are competition to Stake. Both are completely different sites and it doesn't matter to Chipmixer whether there are hundreds of other campaigns or not, especially when they pay less than them. The only potential conflict of interest I see here would be if Darkstar was actively gunning for the Stake campaign manager job.

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Someone from Bitcointalk's Staff / Moderators or Global Moderators doing a lousy work deleting my posts on both Primedice and Stake Official topics.
Just because i have my signature as the one from the campaign doesn't mean i am posting for the campaign.

I was also requested by Edward to post twice per day, so if you do not have any sort of knowledge whatsoever on why I am advertising both Primedice and Stake as i am the Official Brand Manager you could just ask or even check Signature's Campaign old sheet where you would see i have 0 post counts and i am not even getting paid for the campaign at first place since i was the one who said Steve to not count them at all.

Video containing all 9 deleted Primedice / Stake's advertising posts just because someone felt like it was considered spam: https://imgur.com/a/nW2EZPU

This has nothing to do with the Stake campaign and I didn't remove them, but you've essentially inadvertently told everyone you're being paid to bump the thread multiple times a day, which is against the rules and that's exactly what someone has reported them for. Threads should only be bumped once per 24 hours and you can't have multiple company members bumping threads as it's seen as bump spam.

By the way those posts were like 1 week ago as who would care on deleting such since they make Bitcointalk forum active?

Someone reported them and a mod acted on them.


I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations
Also my deleted messages were essentialy replies and informations after some Users replied so no i wasn't even bumping the topic or updating on the deleted messages Smiley

Or is there any new rule saying we can't reply some specific time multiple times after some other user posted something?

Oh you are saying a company member is not allowed for multiple bumps if it's seen as bump spam? Where is that rule? And no it wasn't even spam you can just check them yourself.
I wonder if you consider quote and replies as spam as you have stated. Those are seriously wrong actions on a forum and we would all be sad to hear it.

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June 12, 2019, 04:58:07 PM
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I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations

You have to follow the rules first and foremost. I just reported this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg51424500#msg51424500

Clearly a multi-bump within 24h and clearly shows you're lying that you're just replying to other users etc.

If your employers are requiring you to break the rules then perhaps mods should consider a tempban and/or locking the threads since this spam is starting to seem quite intentional and malicious.
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I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations

You have to follow the rules first and foremost. I just reported this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg51424500#msg51424500

Clearly a multi-bump within 24h and clearly shows you're lying that you're just replying to other users etc.

If your employers are requiring you to break the rules then perhaps mods should consider a tempban and/or locking the threads since this spam is starting to seem quite intentional and malicious.

Then nobody should reply more than once on a topic. Even if it is a non company user Smiley
Both you the global mod saying that if we are company users we should not make these sort of bumps, so that means if i am not a company user i am allowed after some other user posts something?

Check normal users replies then and you will be stunned of so many users Primedice and Stake provide such informations without being company users. Then following that all replies should be removed.

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You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Hey Symphonized, none of this would be an issue if you provided a source for the rule that you have stated.

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Then nobody should reply more than once on a topic. Even if it is a non company user Smiley
Both you the global mod saying that if we are company users we should not make these sort of bumps, so that means if i am not a company user i am allowed after some other user posts something?

Check normal users replies then and you will be stunned of so many users Primedice and Stake provide such informations without being company users. Then following that all replies should be removed.

I have no idea what you're babbling about. User "Symphonized" posted twice in a row within 24h in the same thread. There are no other posts in between. User "Symphonized" should have edited their last post instead. It's as simple as that.
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You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Hey Symphonized, none of this would be an issue if you provided a source for the rule that you have stated.
Just shut up your mouth both stevestake and Symphonized just do your job!  All DT saying here is all true and have strong evidence against to your campaign! 🖕
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You are missing that those are replies to users. And replies on the Topic when everyone is allowed to post since it's a free Forum.
Bumping / Updating per 24 hours are considered for OPs and not users. Since i am not the owner* and i can free speech my own opinion on the Topic those are considered normal replies.

Hey Symphonized, none of this would be an issue if you provided a source for the rule that you have stated.

Then nobody should reply more than once on a topic. Even if it is a non company user Smiley
Both you the global mod saying that if we are company users we should not make these sort of bumps, so that means if i am not a company user i am allowed after some other user posts something?

Check normal users replies then and you will be stunned of so many users Primedice and Stake provide such informations without being company users. Then following that all replies should be removed.

I have no idea what you're babbling about. User "Symphonized" posted twice in a row within 24h in the same thread. There are no other posts in between. User "Symphonized" should have edited their last post instead. It's as simple as that.

Well you are both wrong and you know why? Because my deleted posts HAPPENED when i was with Signature Campaign personal text message (telegram). Did you know that? Well you don't.. Now you do Roll Eyes
Nobody knew i was a Brand Manager till yesterday after changing my personal text message.
So let me ask again: what were the reasons for my deleted posts? Or the reasonable explanations as excuses to clarify such wrong deletions?

Why was this even deleted since nobody saw that i have posted as a company user for example? (And remaining 8 )


You should basically moderate everything and delete every post from Bitcointalk then if you consider those off rules.

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Nobody knew i was a Brand Manager till yesterday after changing my personal text message.

Doesn't matter. Rules 13, 21, and 32 don't allow the same user to post twice in a row in the same thread within 24h.

If multiple accounts are used for bumping, mods can probably interpret the rule to treat all those accounts as a single user, and "nobody knew" is not a valid excuse - if anything it makes it worse (covert shill bumping).
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I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations
Also my deleted messages were essentialy replies and informations after some Users replied so no i wasn't even bumping the topic or updating on most of the deleted messages Smiley

I'm not twisting anything. What you said is plain for all to see. It doesn't matter if there is 'new information'. If it's within 24 hours then edit the previous post or the op. If we didn't have bumping rules certain businesses would just spam their thread 24/7 or multiple times a day to give them an advantage over others. The bumping rules are there to make it fair to all otherwise unscrupulous business would just dwarf the competition.

Well you are both wrong and you know why? Because my deleted posts HAPPENED when i was with Signature Campaign personal text message (telegram). Did you know that? Well you don't.. Now you do Roll Eyes
Nobody knew i was a Brand Manager till yesterday after changing my personal text message.
So let me ask again: what were the reasons for my deleted posts? Or the reasonable explanations as excuses to clarify such wrong deletions?

It looks like the person who reported them probably just worked it out. Doesn't take a rocket scientist looking at your post history. They were reported along the lines of the posts being an excessive bump due to you likely being a representative of stake, along with a few other off topic posts (so take that into consideration also).

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I have to post twice a day if there informations to provide to users, don't make my statements your own words for your accusations
Also my deleted messages were essentialy replies and informations after some Users replied so no i wasn't even bumping the topic or updating on most of the deleted messages Smiley

I'm not twisting anything. What you said is plain for all to see. It doesn't matter if there is 'new information'. If it's within 24 hours then edit the previous post or the op. If we didn't have bumping rules certain businesses would just spam their thread 24/7 or multiple times a day to give them an advantage over others. The bumping rules are there to make it fair to all otherwise unscrupulous business would just dwarf the competition.

Well you are both wrong and you know why? Because my deleted posts HAPPENED when i was with Signature Campaign personal text message (telegram). Did you know that? Well you don't.. Now you do Roll Eyes
Nobody knew i was a Brand Manager till yesterday after changing my personal text message.
So let me ask again: what were the reasons for my deleted posts? Or the reasonable explanations as excuses to clarify such wrong deletions?

It looks like the person who reported them probably just worked it out. Doesn't take a rocket scientist looking at your post history. They were reported along the lines of the posts being an excessive bump due to you likely being a representative of stake, along with a few other off topic posts (so take that into consideration also).

Ok thank you for the clarification so far. Anyway i would like to suggest some update if possible on the reports system.
Is it possible that the report provides a more concrete reason for the deletion rather than "considered off topic or any other reason" where the reason could be specified to provide more detail on why the deletion happened and not repeat it again?

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Ok thank you for the clarification so far. Anyway i would like to suggest some update if possible on the reports system.
Is it possible that the report provides a more concrete reason for the deletion rather than "considered off topic or any other reason" where the reason could be specified to provide more detail on why the deletion happened and not repeat it again?

Only theymos can implement something like that, but I agree it would be helpful and I and others have requested/suggested it before. A drop down menu with some of the common reasons posts are removed would be helpful, and/or a comment box so a mod can state the specific reason if it needs further clarification.

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June 13, 2019, 12:31:45 AM
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Just shut up your mouth both stevestake and Symphonized just do your job!  All DT saying here is all true and have strong evidence against to your campaign! 🖕

Don't worry about the campaign anymore, idk who you're an alt of but odds are you're one of the people ruining things for everyone and you're probably about to get kicked out

I'm putting a Bitcoin bounty on this guy for anyone who can provide evidence of who he's an alt of so I can be 100% sure he gets kicked out

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June 13, 2019, 12:47:51 AM
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Just shut up your mouth both stevestake and Symphonized just do your job!  All DT saying here is all true and have strong evidence against to your campaign! 🖕

Don't worry about the campaign anymore, idk who you're an alt of but odds are you're one of the people ruining things for everyone and you're probably about to get kicked out

I'm putting a Bitcoin bounty on this guy for anyone who can provide evidence of who he's an alt of so I can be 100% sure he gets kicked out
Oh really you do not need to do that I leave your campaign last few weeks ago because your rate is decreament. 
Just keep your bitcoin to your pocket or it will better if you adding your bitcoin bounty to stake campaign to increament payrate 🤟
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June 13, 2019, 12:57:53 AM
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Just shut up your mouth both stevestake and Symphonized just do your job!  All DT saying here is all true and have strong evidence against to your campaign! 🖕

Don't worry about the campaign anymore, idk who you're an alt of but odds are you're one of the people ruining things for everyone and you're probably about to get kicked out

I'm putting a Bitcoin bounty on this guy for anyone who can provide evidence of who he's an alt of so I can be 100% sure he gets kicked out
You are putting a bounty on finding out who your critics are?
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If you have anyone else you want kicked out let me know because I'm removing people right now since the week just ended

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If you have anyone else you want kicked out let me know because I'm removing people right now since the week just ended
Realistically, you shouldn't even be restricted to only removing people after a week ends.

Since you have this requirement: "Constructive posts only (no spamming)" any rule-breakers shouldn't be paid for their shitposts. Don't reward spamming. Roll Eyes

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Since you have this requirement: "Constructive posts only (no spamming)" any rule-breakers shouldn't be paid for their shitposts. Don't reward spamming. Roll Eyes

I'm just going to pay the last week and let people go on their way peacefully without spam disputes

Also, I did ask to join your campaign, which you ignored...

...I don't see any evidence of you rejecting anyone who applied.

It's not my fault you had over -8000 trust when you tried to apply. You're spending far too much time being upset over getting rejected from the campaign and I knew you were wasting my time when you tried to claim over 40% of the campaign has 1-2 merits. Sorry but I'm not interested in responding to you anymore unless you have something constructive to say or at least semi truthful.


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I'm just going to pay the last week and let people go on their way peacefully without spam disputes
Alright. As long as you're making a conscious effort to mitigate the amount of spam that erupts as a result of the campaign (by deterring the act of spamming), that's fine by me.

The issue at-hand is that the voluminous verbosity that is derived from the aggregate of Stake's campaign is probably too much for one person, right?

Why don't you cut down on the members or hire someone to help you count posts? And whoever does -- they should be very critical with the quality. In my opinion, 99% of posts that come from the campaign should be tossed.

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Also, I did ask to join your campaign, which you ignored...

...I don't see any evidence of you rejecting anyone who applied.

It's not my fault you had over -8000 trust when you tried to apply. You're spending far too much time being upset over getting rejected from the campaign and I knew you were wasting my time when you tried to claim over 40% of the campaign has 1-2 merits. Sorry but I'm not interested in responding to you anymore unless you have something constructive to say or at least semi truthful.


Perhaps you should have read the remainder of my post:
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2 - You appear to believe having negative trust is a reason why someone is "incapable of being trusted or making a good post" as you do not accept negative trusted people into your signature campaign. Also, I did ask to join your campaign, which you ignored, however if I was participating in your campaign, I would have left because of a) the low pay rates, and b) because I do not want to be associated with the amount of spam your campaign generates

Also, nearly 40% of who applied on your signature campaign thread who were wearing a stake.com signature as of Sunday had received either 0 or 1 merit as of last Sunday. This does not count any merit anyone received as part of being "grandfathered" into the merit system when it was implemented. If you don't believe me, here is the data I collected:
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June 16, 2019, 04:48:01 PM
Last edit: June 16, 2019, 04:59:36 PM by marlboroza
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Is lyks15 part of stake's signature campaign or has been removed? Proof of spam:
That is a great project. Because all we know that all of us need protection because we are here in crypto world that a number one in scam and fraud issue and problem. All we know that we have on digital society so there is a big possibility that you will become of a victim of every illegal transaction like scam. It is good to have this kind of project to develop security features here in crypto industry.
This is posted in game-protect's thread. Game-protect has nice feedback from Stunna:
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Blackmail/Racketeering. Promotes known scam websites and offers fake legal advice/services to players for upfront pay.
And, game-protect has very nice opinion about stake:
Primedice and Stake paying a bunch of mentally ill blatant liars and criminals highly indicates that Primedice and Stake itself is run by criminals!

Another example:
Looks good but I did not tried it yet. I hope I can enjoy all the features and freebies about this project on this site. But I hope this project will have a good and more security features that no one can immitate because all we know that this is the top concern of every crypto investor and gamers.
This is posted in Seuntjies DiceBot's thread. Seuntjies dicebot is....dice bot. There are no freebies. Why lyks hopes 6 year old project will have "good and more security features"? They are spammer, that's why.
If moderator have time to check recent spam from this account....
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June 16, 2019, 04:54:14 PM
 #145

Is lyks15 part of stakes signature campaign or has been removed? Proof of spam:

He's not on the spreadsheet, so he has been removed.

taking a break - expect delayed responses
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July 03, 2021, 03:09:55 PM
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Bitcointalk username: wmaurik (Hero) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=472651
From campaign: Fortunejack
Accusation: spamming random rubbishy oneliners in few minutes
Evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=472651;sa=showPosts (https://archive.is/RrvJi)
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July 03, 2021, 04:54:41 PM
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Bitcointalk username: wmaurik (Hero) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=472651
From campaign: Fortunejack
Accusation: spamming random rubbishy oneliners in few minutes
Evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=472651;sa=showPosts (https://archive.is/RrvJi)
Wrong place to report this.

This thread was specifically created to curb spamming in the First Stake.com signature campaign, where there were so many complaints about spam due to the campaign requirements.

Fortunejack is managed by @Hhampuz, so it would be better is you sent him a PM to review a certain user that's enrolled in his campaign, or you could use his reputation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129675

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July 11, 2021, 10:54:12 AM
 #148

Bitcointalk username: wmaurik (Hero) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=472651
From campaign: Fortunejack
Accusation: spamming random rubbishy oneliners in few minutes
Evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=472651;sa=showPosts (https://archive.is/RrvJi)
Wrong place to report this.

This thread was specifically created to curb spamming in the First Stake.com signature campaign, where there were so many complaints about spam due to the campaign requirements.

Fortunejack is managed by @Hhampuz, so it would be better is you sent him a PM to review a certain user that's enrolled in his campaign, or you could use his reputation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129675
Did you read the topic at least?  Huh This topic is not about any specific campaign!!! Why the hell should we have to specify the campaign instead???

Bitcointalk username:
From campaign:
Accusation:
Evidence:

You are trying to fool me like a crook!
Do you know this account? Are you linked to him in some ways?
It doesn't work! And if you don't apologize and don't edit or delete your post it will show you're trying to deter people from reporting spammers!
Then you will deserve to be tagged as spammer accomplice.
 
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July 11, 2021, 07:57:49 PM
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Whoa tonto, calm down.

If you're gonna bump a 2-year old thread to report a sig spammer then you should at least get the campaign and manager right before immediately losing your shit.

Having said that, I'm not immediately opposed to the continuance of this thread.


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