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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Winners: Eintracht Frankfurt!  (Read 34368 times)
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May 21, 2022, 06:19:14 PM
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Yes, if the target is to be in the top four of the Bundesliga it is still possible, because in the Bundesliga there are only two very dominant teams like Bayern Munich and Dortmund. That leaves Frankfurt with a chance to be third or fourth, but expecting to win the title is like a tough hope. Indeed, it never hurts to have high expectations but we can consider it in a more realistic way. Because there are still many better teams than Frankfurt playing in European tournaments, especially in the Champions League which on several occasions remained difficult and failed to win the title.
Is it just me who thinks that the victory that Frankfurt got in the European League 70% was due to luck. Frankfurt's performance in the Bundesliga, I can say, is far from proud

if we look at the history of the 5 matches played by frankfurt (before the european league final) then we can see frankfurt got 3 draws and 2 losses

frankfurt is really lucky.. congratulations frankfurt


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May 21, 2022, 07:00:36 PM
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Well, now I just expect them to be in the top four positions the next season considering that they have played so well in the Europa League. I expect them to make some necessary changes in their squad and continue the good work that they have done in the Europa League. With the type of performance that they have shown in the Europa League, I believe they will be able to play well in the next season in Bundesliga.
I don't believe Frankfurt will be better next season in the Bundesliga even though this season they managed to seal the Europa League title. Look at what they did in the Bundesliga this season and compare it to what they did in the Europa League. I think Frankfurt are very different in both competitions, they were only able to win 10 match out of 34 match, lost 12 and draw 12 but did well in the Europa League. Luck has played an important role in Frankfurt's success this season in the Europa League.


Honestly, I don't believe Frankfurt have won the Europa League title just because they're lucky. They have played well indeed in the Europa League and I am not saying this just watching the results, I have seen them play and I have seen them play against bigger opponents like Barcelona, so I know what I am talking about. I think that did not keep much importance to the Bundesliga. and to be honest it is actually hard for even me to believe. I think they are going to give a lot more importance to the Bundesliga next season.


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May 21, 2022, 07:26:41 PM
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This is undeniable. I'm sure they won't even be able to repeat winning the Europa League (if they take third place in the Champions League group stage and get there again). Such beautiful fairy tales happen to small clubs very rarely. Next season in the Europa League there will again be many strong clubs (for example United  Grin ) and it will be very difficult to beat them.
This story just reminds me of Leicester in the EPL and I agree with what you said it will only be like that because indeed this could be a football miracle that happens every few years and even decades.

But indeed this is quite reasonable in my opinion and indeed they also understand this but this is not bad for them because this could be the highest award for them now

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May 21, 2022, 07:28:11 PM
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Yes, if the target is to be in the top four of the Bundesliga it is still possible, because in the Bundesliga there are only two very dominant teams like Bayern Munich and Dortmund. That leaves Frankfurt with a chance to be third or fourth, but expecting to win the title is like a tough hope. Indeed, it never hurts to have high expectations but we can consider it in a more realistic way. Because there are still many better teams than Frankfurt playing in European tournaments, especially in the Champions League which on several occasions remained difficult and failed to win the title.

I think they should have high Expectations because they played really well in the Europa League and they have set the standards really high for themselves. I believe they will be starting to believe in themselves from now on and try to play better in their own respective League.  and I also believe that their manager is going to help them out with some good transfers and some necessary changes in the squad.

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May 21, 2022, 07:31:22 PM
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I think that Rangers were one step behind Frankfurt after not being able to do find as many attacks as Frankfurt found. Extra time was better for Rangers but penalty shoot-outs was inevitable. And it also ended for the benefit of Frankfurt by 5-4. I believe that it was a deserved win for Frankfurt so congratulations. They even eliminated Barcelona before which was a sign for them to achieve bigger things. And they won even the title now.
it was a beautiful run for Frankfurt this year in the Europa League, i didn't see it coming at all, they managed to win in the final getting the trophy and securing a spot in the champions league next year, it's a big achievement for the team and their fans which showed so much support for the team especially in the Camp Nou against Barcelona.
Honestly, I didn't see it coming. I never thought Frankfurt could make it to the stage of lifting the trophy of europa. Looking at their position in Bundesliga will say it all. I underrated them and predicted that Barcelona will eliminate them. When Barcelona failed to do so, it didn't give me much taught. I said  Westham will kill them, even as Westham failed it became clearer to me what is at stake. That was exactly when I began to suggest that Frankfurt will win europa league.
Frankfurt is among the weak teams in the Bundesliga league but it was a surprise to many how they were able to defeat Barcelona in the Europa League.  Frankfurt winning the Europa League is of great achievement,  and I think it will also trigger the team to do better in Bundesliga league to improve their performance.

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May 21, 2022, 07:53:13 PM
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With the big teams in the Champions League next season, Frankfurt will find it difficult to survive there though the management can use their fund to bring in good players that will boost their team spirit and performance with that, they can make it in the group stage or proberbly the knockout stage depending on their performance.
with their current strength even I don't expect much for them next season.
But it's really good to see their moves. They have not focused on the Bundesliga this season and focused on the Europa League and were able to be at the top and become champions. I think next season they will still focus on this prestigious league and are determined to at least be in 3rd position in the Champions group phase.

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May 21, 2022, 08:05:55 PM
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I would not say that the fact that Frankfurt won this competition is so much a miracle or a fairy tale.
First of all, it is a reputable German club that has already achieved great success in the past, such as winning the UEFA Cup.
It's a club with a very long tradition, which was founded in 1899, and which was also the champion of Germany and always good in the German league.
This season they were very good in this competition and before the finals they knocked out much stronger teams than Rangers, such as Barcelona and West Ham, and they deservedly won this competition.
They won this competition thanks to the quality they showed and not because of luck.
Let’s not forget that last year’s winner of this competition, Villareal, this season knocked Juve and Bayern out of the Champions League and played the semi-finals with Liverpool and I don’t think they are better team than Frankfurt  Grin
Just because they have a good history doesn't mean that it is not a miracle for them to win, they managed to beat Barcelona, if we are going to talk about the past then Barcelona has been the team with the best past against any team in all of europa.

However, it was a miracle because they were also not a good team in bundesliga neither, they ended up with 11th in the league, can you imagine any other nations 11th to win this cup? I know that people think that they have been great at Europa and that is understandable, yes they were great, but at the same time the fact that they were great in this tournament shows that it was an unexpected result since they were not great anywhere else for a long time.

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May 21, 2022, 08:13:16 PM
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No one could have imagined at the start of the tournament that Frankfurt would become champion. A great size. Especially because Frankfurt is perhaps the number 7 in Germany. There were stronger teams active in this competition. By the way, I didn't think the finalists of the Europa League were any better than those of the Conference league. But that aside. It's also nice that they will automatically play Champions league next year, then we will get 3-4 German teams in the CL. Good for German football.

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May 21, 2022, 08:26:07 PM
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The final game was a nice one. But as most people, I also expected to see Rangers showing a greater performance. They struggled more in the first half but made up for it later. They were very good especially in extra time. And they were so unlucky when it comes to penalties. Ramsey's penalty wasn't very satisfying and I predicted him to miss that before he even hit the ball. He didn't seem to be very confident before taking the penalty I mean. I appreciate Frankfurt's great effort and winning the title deservedly.

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May 21, 2022, 08:47:59 PM
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This is undeniable. I'm sure they won't even be able to repeat winning the Europa League (if they take third place in the Champions League group stage and get there again). Such beautiful fairy tales happen to small clubs very rarely. Next season in the Europa League there will again be many strong clubs (for example United  Grin ) and it will be very difficult to beat them.

I would not say that the fact that Frankfurt won this competition is so much a miracle or a fairy tale.
First of all, it is a reputable German club that has already achieved great success in the past, such as winning the UEFA Cup.
It's a club with a very long tradition, which was founded in 1899, and which was also the champion of Germany and always good in the German league.
This season they were very good in this competition and before the finals they knocked out much stronger teams than Rangers, such as Barcelona and West Ham, and they deservedly won this competition.
They won this competition thanks to the quality they showed and not because of luck.
Let’s not forget that last year’s winner of this competition, Villareal, this season knocked Juve and Bayern out of the Champions League and played the semi-finals with Liverpool and I don’t think they are better team than Frankfurt  Grin

Until the last sentence, I thought that you were writing all this seriously Grin
In fact, as a United fan, I expect (and hope) that firstly they will renew the club and get out of their already too long crisis, and secondly they will take the Europa League seriously and win it. The main problem of big teams is that any competition lower than the Champions League is the third priority for them.

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The final game was a nice one. But as most people, I also expected to see Rangers showing a greater performance. They struggled more in the first half but made up for it later. They were very good especially in extra time. And they were so unlucky when it comes to penalties. Ramsey's penalty wasn't very satisfying and I predicted him to miss that before he even hit the ball. He didn't seem to be very confident before taking the penalty I mean. I appreciate Frankfurt's great effort and winning the title deservedly.

The final match is very different from the regular match all players will get mental pressure this is not an easy thing even Ronaldo/Messi has failed to do it
Frankfurt  Goalkeeper was named the best player in the match but the top scorer remains from Rangers however this is just a matter of luck
Frankfurt is more appropriate to get it as a team that continues to be consistent and defeat other champion candidates.

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May 21, 2022, 09:53:34 PM
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This is undeniable. I'm sure they won't even be able to repeat winning the Europa League (if they take third place in the Champions League group stage and get there again). Such beautiful fairy tales happen to small clubs very rarely. Next season in the Europa League there will again be many strong clubs (for example United  Grin ) and it will be very difficult to beat them.
This story just reminds me of Leicester in the EPL and I agree with what you said it will only be like that because indeed this could be a football miracle that happens every few years and even decades.

But indeed this is quite reasonable in my opinion and indeed they also understand this but this is not bad for them because this could be the highest award for them now

However, note that such a tale has only happened to Leicester once. After that win, they focused the following season on the Champions League, finishing low in the standings and reaching the quarter-finals in the Champions League! Even that season, with poor league play but excellent Champions League play, was great, they fell just short of reaching the semi-finals. But the point is, they never had that again, so it's hard to believe the tale will be repeated here


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May 22, 2022, 09:07:50 AM
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However, note that such a tale has only happened to Leicester once. After that win, they focused the following season on the Champions League, finishing low in the standings and reaching the quarter-finals in the Champions League! Even that season, with poor league play but excellent Champions League play, was great, they fell just short of reaching the semi-finals. But the point is, they never had that again, so it's hard to believe the tale will be repeated here

If a fairy tale is repeated over and over again, then it will cease to be a fairy tale. If Leicester would win the Premier League every year, then they would not be Cinderella but would be an ordinary top club.
By the way, in the Champions League, the last time such a fairy tale happened was already in 2003, when Mourinho led Porto to victory.

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May 22, 2022, 12:02:18 PM
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The final game was a nice one. But as most people, I also expected to see Rangers showing a greater performance. They struggled more in the first half but made up for it later. They were very good especially in extra time. And they were so unlucky when it comes to penalties. Ramsey's penalty wasn't very satisfying and I predicted him to miss that before he even hit the ball. He didn't seem to be very confident before taking the penalty I mean. I appreciate Frankfurt's great effort and winning the title deservedly.


Ranges lost the penalty shootout but they did some mistake in 1st and 2nd half.They played very well this season, unfriendly they didn’t show their great and real performance. Very fortunate Frankfurt played very well the final match against Rangers. Frankfurt goal keeper is Very talented one.He was very outstanding in final match.I also I think, this win deserved in Frankfurt.
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May 22, 2022, 12:27:21 PM
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I would not say that the fact that Frankfurt won this competition is so much a miracle or a fairy tale.
First of all, it is a reputable German club that has already achieved great success in the past, such as winning the UEFA Cup.
It's a club with a very long tradition, which was founded in 1899, and which was also the champion of Germany and always good in the German league.
This season they were very good in this competition and before the finals they knocked out much stronger teams than Rangers, such as Barcelona and West Ham, and they deservedly won this competition.
They won this competition thanks to the quality they showed and not because of luck.
Let’s not forget that last year’s winner of this competition, Villareal, this season knocked Juve and Bayern out of the Champions League and played the semi-finals with Liverpool and I don’t think they are better team than Frankfurt  Grin
Just because they have a good history doesn't mean that it is not a miracle for them to win, they managed to beat Barcelona, if we are going to talk about the past then Barcelona has been the team with the best past against any team in all of europa.

However, it was a miracle because they were also not a good team in bundesliga neither, they ended up with 11th in the league, can you imagine any other nations 11th to win this cup? I know that people think that they have been great at Europa and that is understandable, yes they were great, but at the same time the fact that they were great in this tournament shows that it was an unexpected result since they were not great anywhere else for a long time.

In fact, I have a feeling that during the season the coach and players of Frankfurt realized that they could not make a good result in the German championship and that they therefore focused entirely on the Europa League.
It's difficult to endure a long and difficult league if you do not have enough quality players in the team and it is usually easier to achieve a good result in the cup competition for smaller clubs.
Therefore, I think that 11th place in the league is not a realistic reflection of their strength and quality of the team.
After all, didn’t they beat Bayern in the cup final a few years ago? It can't be said that they were so bad and that they didn't achieve anything in football for a long time before this success.

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May 22, 2022, 12:41:48 PM
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The final game was a nice one. But as most people, I also expected to see Rangers showing a greater performance. They struggled more in the first half but made up for it later. They were very good especially in extra time. And they were so unlucky when it comes to penalties. Ramsey's penalty wasn't very satisfying and I predicted him to miss that before he even hit the ball. He didn't seem to be very confident before taking the penalty I mean. I appreciate Frankfurt's great effort and winning the title deservedly.


Ranges lost the penalty shootout but they did some mistake in 1st and 2nd half.They played very well this season, unfriendly they didn’t show their great and real performance. Very fortunate Frankfurt played very well the final match against Rangers. Frankfurt goal keeper is Very talented one.He was very outstanding in final match.I also I think, this win deserved in Frankfurt.

At least this is their best achievement now because as far as I know they have only reached the Europa League final this season and of course even if they lose they will still get credit there.
I've only just seen them play in such a prestigious league and of course this is something good for the Club.
Regardless of winning or losing, this will still be carved out and will be discussed as long as the Europa League exists

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May 22, 2022, 08:59:09 PM
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This story just reminds me of Leicester in the EPL and I agree with what you said it will only be like that because indeed this could be a football miracle that happens every few years and even decades.

But indeed this is quite reasonable in my opinion and indeed they also understand this but this is not bad for them because this could be the highest award for them now

However, note that such a tale has only happened to Leicester once. After that win, they focused the following season on the Champions League, finishing low in the standings and reaching the quarter-finals in the Champions League! Even that season, with poor league play but excellent Champions League play, was great, they fell just short of reaching the semi-finals. But the point is, they never had that again, so it's hard to believe the tale will be repeated here


As I mentioned, this only happens to a few teams once every few years and even a few decades ago they returned to their initial steps by playing normally. Even now Frnakfurt are very likely like that, They are now in the Champions League but if they are unlucky even I doubt for them to reach the next round even doubt for the Europa League for next season because something like this will be difficult to happen a few times for a surprise team

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May 22, 2022, 09:32:34 PM
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However, note that such a tale has only happened to Leicester once. After that win, they focused the following season on the Champions League, finishing low in the standings and reaching the quarter-finals in the Champions League! Even that season, with poor league play but excellent Champions League play, was great, they fell just short of reaching the semi-finals. But the point is, they never had that again, so it's hard to believe the tale will be repeated here

If a fairy tale is repeated over and over again, then it will cease to be a fairy tale. If Leicester would win the Premier League every year, then they would not be Cinderella but would be an ordinary top club.
By the way, in the Champions League, the last time such a fairy tale happened was already in 2003, when Mourinho led Porto to victory.

Essentially yes, but that's the point, to go from fairy tale to consistent wins and, as you said, become a top club. Leicester's fairytale was a bit different, it doesn't work anymore. And it's the Europa League, not the Champions League, it's hard to call such an event amazing or something unbelievable, it's obviously not the same level as the Champions League

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This is an absolute fairytale for Frankfurt. Nobody expected it. Although I have to say that I was impressed with their performance in Barcelona by winning there. Although it was mainly due to the audience that was there, you can't make it with an audience alone. The victory in the tournament is absolutely deserved. In the final they were equal to Rangers, it could fall either way. Rangers would have deserved it too.

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Essentially yes, but that's the point, to go from fairy tale to consistent wins and, as you said, become a top club. Leicester's fairytale was a bit different, it doesn't work anymore. And it's the Europa League, not the Champions League, it's hard to call such an event amazing or something unbelievable, it's obviously not the same level as the Champions League
Regardless they have now won and that is an undeniable fact right now.
Although indeed this can be called a fairy tale or whatever they have succeeded now and forget about next season because indeed they are still in a warm euphoria due to this victory.
Next season they won't be like this and I think they know that too so they don't have to think about anything unnecessary

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