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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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May 08, 2020, 12:43:12 PM
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But in my opinion, the situation with the pandemic is not clear yet, and it is too early to talk about the opening of the league...
If it is not discussed earlier it will be more difficult to arrange it. Therefore, in every competition officials, now continue to have discussions to find the best solution or open matches again, the Bundesliga, the league of league, LaLiga have been discussed before and now the champions league where this most prestigious game will certainly be more awaited because the great team will start the match again, even without the audience I think everyone already knows that the pandemic will not have any spectators.

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May 08, 2020, 04:45:19 PM
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Iirc it's not official announcement yet, just a result of meeting they held with all of club representatives yesterday. It might change if Bundesliga, Premier League, La Liga and other leagues that decide to continue the competition don't run well.

Thank you for the explanation, it was clear now. So, how about next season competitions, if all clubs can't continue, how to choose the clubs for uefa champions 2020/2021 participants? it will be chosen by federation or will use last league table?

I'm not sure, but like what I mentioned in my previous post in the last page, perhaps UEFA will be more focused on preparing Euro 2021. So, there is a possibility that there will be no UCL next season. If the current season is forced to be done, let's say, on October, there will be no break for players since the competition for next season must be prepared. It would be bad for the players healthy, especially Premier League players with 3 domestic competitions there (Premier League, FA Cup, and League Cup) and their insane Boxing Day. Regarding who gonna participate in the next season tournament, the leagues that have been stopped already like Eredivisie and Ligue 1 surely have the fixed participants based on the tournament table. The rest teams depends on how their domestic league run.

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May 08, 2020, 05:52:50 PM
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It’s not ideal for Lyon but they’re not going to refuse to play are they. The CL is the trophy everybody wants to win, they’ll just have to try & be in the best possible shape.

Nobody will ever refuse to play. These competitions were in a big danger of being called off,,, I cannot imagine anyone who is into football who wants to not play, even though health and all that is important. They are people social distancing now just to buy alcohol in the streets. If they make it safely, why not football. They just need to take all the necessary precautions.

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May 08, 2020, 06:52:19 PM
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According to RMC spots Juventus-Lyon will be played in Turin on 08-08-2020.

Juventus can maybe play the rest of the serieA and they will be trained but what about Lyon where the LigueA is deleted and they will probably not training for another 2 months?

Can a separate Champions League match take place if the other Champions League clubs are closed for games?
Although it may be possible to arrange matches without fans in the stadiums...
But in my opinion, the situation with the pandemic is not clear yet, and it is too early to talk about the opening of the league...
This and all other time dates are not final and most likely will still change many times, so do not currently take this as a basis.

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May 08, 2020, 08:12:26 PM
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I think the clearest choice right now for UEFA is to let the leagues handle this and not themselves. Just tell the leagues that whoever they want to send they can send them, with the exception of teams that are not allowed (like Manchester City) and just continue next year with the teams leagues send.

Some leagues will continue to play, Bundesliga is the most known one that will definitely play, Turkish league will start on 14th I think, and I am sure other leagues will decide on a day as well, those leagues will eventually finish the leagues and send the right ones. Some leagues however just purely cancelled the season all together, I suppose those could just send either teams they want or just according to last positions when this happened, would be just for one year anyway.

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May 09, 2020, 09:53:29 AM
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So, there is a possibility that there will be no UCL next season. If the current season is forced to be done, let's say, on October, there will be no break for players since the competition for next season must be prepared.

The reason you mentioned look acceptable, there will be more hard for players to play in several league in a week since current stage still not finished yet. Maybe if UCL want to back as normal conditions, they need to change current season. Mostly, league starting on august, because club need to finish 2019/20 season, new season starting on october or after last match from primary league (serie-A, EPL, La Liga etc) but it will change everything including transfer season.

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May 09, 2020, 10:56:03 AM
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The reason you mentioned look acceptable, there will be more hard for players to play in several league in a week since current stage still not finished yet. Maybe if UCL want to back as normal conditions, they need to change current season. Mostly, league starting on august, because club need to finish 2019/20 season, new season starting on october or after last match from primary league (serie-A, EPL, La Liga etc) but it will change everything including transfer season.
UEFA will have to change the schedule for next season because of the current prolonged season. It is the best to see both national leagues (top at least) and Champions League + Europa League finish their current season. The next season will be easier to handle despite of some later beginning days. Everything over the globe has been changed because of the pandemic so it is acceptable to see normality of leagues changed too. After the end of next season, I hope we will see normal ones again.

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May 09, 2020, 02:21:01 PM
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The reason you mentioned look acceptable, there will be more hard for players to play in several league in a week since current stage still not finished yet. Maybe if UCL want to back as normal conditions, they need to change current season. Mostly, league starting on august, because club need to finish 2019/20 season, new season starting on october or after last match from primary league (serie-A, EPL, La Liga etc) but it will change everything including transfer season.

Well yeah, starting the new season immediately after the current season end sounds reasonable. The players are being in long break right now so no need for them to take another break after end of the season.

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Another confirmation that UEFA Champions League will start soon, in August, from Marca: https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2020/05/09/5eb7152f22601d29218b45c8.html
Lyon will play with Juve in Turin on August 7.
Hopefully, nothing will change until then  Grin
Really, can't wait to see CL again on TV, what about you?

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May 10, 2020, 08:41:54 AM
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The reason you mentioned look acceptable, there will be more hard for players to play in several league in a week since current stage still not finished yet. Maybe if UCL want to back as normal conditions, they need to change current season. Mostly, league starting on august, because club need to finish 2019/20 season, new season starting on october or after last match from primary league (serie-A, EPL, La Liga etc) but it will change everything including transfer season.

Well yeah, starting the new season immediately after the current season end sounds reasonable. The players are being in long break right now so no need for them to take another break after end of the season.

yeah, look like that, but bear in mind that after finishing this season, and start another one (if everything stay the same, without break), CL will finish in August, and new season start in September, than you will have EURO 2020 after that, so first longer break for best football players will be in 2022, not so good for injuries
never mind, cant wait to see football on TV
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yeah, look like that, but bear in mind that after finishing this season, and start another one (if everything stay the same, without break), CL will finish in August, and new season start in September, than you will have EURO 2020 after that, so first longer break for best football players will be in 2022, not so good for injuries
never mind, cant wait to see football on TV

Not good at all,,, I think it will be different next season shorter games and everything, unless they cancel one or two tournaments, so football returns to normal without doing anything stupid. What do you think? Should we sacrifice? I think so.

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May 10, 2020, 03:44:46 PM
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DRAFT CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CALENDAR (according to Marca):

7 August: Juventus-Lyon; Manchester City-Real Madrid (Round of 16 second legs)
8 August: Bayern-Chelsea; Barcelona-Napoli(Round of 16 second legs)
11-12 August: Quarter-finals first leg
14-15 August: Quarter-finals second leg
18-19 August: Semi-finals first leg
21-22 August: Semi-finals second leg
29 August: Final (Istanbul)

Wait what? Finishing all remaining matches in one whole month, that's so interesting! If that really happens, would be the best month in this entire 2020.


yeah, look like that, but bear in mind that after finishing this season, and start another one (if everything stay the same, without break), CL will finish in August, and new season start in September, than you will have EURO 2020 after that, so first longer break for best football players will be in 2022, not so good for injuries
never mind, cant wait to see football on TV

Or they can just remove all of their pre-season tournaments such as ICC or that premier league asia or whatever at least until World Cup 2022 for the players fatigue's sake.

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Really glad hearing the news that football is coming back up again but CL coming back in August is really a good news.

DRAFT CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CALENDAR (according to Marca):

7 August: Juventus-Lyon; Manchester City-Real Madrid (Round of 16 second legs)
8 August: Bayern-Chelsea; Barcelona-Napoli(Round of 16 second legs)
11-12 August: Quarter-finals first leg
14-15 August: Quarter-finals second leg
18-19 August: Semi-finals first leg
21-22 August: Semi-finals second leg
29 August: Final (Istanbul)

Wait what? Finishing all remaining matches in one whole month, that's so interesting! If that really happens, would be the best month in this entire 2020.


Yeah would be an entertaining month. Whole month CL action  Cheesy

I read somewhere that UEFA were very eager to start the next CL season on schedule and to do that they had to finish the current within August. It falls right into slot and doesn't seems much hectic looking at the draft calender.
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Yeah would be an entertaining month. Whole month CL action  Cheesy

I read somewhere that UEFA were very eager to start the next CL season on schedule and to do that they had to finish the current within August. It falls right into slot and doesn't seems much hectic looking at the draft calender.

For a whole month, we will see a prestigious match. Of course, August is the most awaited month if it has been decided that the CL match will continue in August.

But I think that condition can occur because of the pandemic situation and the match must be resolved within a month.

(Istanbul) is the safest city? indeed I did not hear that in tukri there was covid-19.

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yeah, look like that, but bear in mind that after finishing this season, and start another one (if everything stay the same, without break), CL will finish in August, and new season start in September, than you will have EURO 2020 after that, so first longer break for best football players will be in 2022, not so good for injuries
never mind, cant wait to see football on TV

Not good at all,,, I think it will be different next season shorter games and everything, unless they cancel one or two tournaments, so football returns to normal without doing anything stupid. What do you think? Should we sacrifice? I think so.
But even in normal situation without pandemy football calendar is very intensive. And bear in mind that players now got more than 2 months for recovery. There is no such long pauses between seasons in normal situation.
I don't like idea about making matches shorter, it wouldn't change situation much. But I like decision to allow making 5 substitutions.
And as @jayce, there is too many unneccesary games which requires travelling around the world, like ICC, friendly games in Asia, USA. And some less important tournaments isn't that needed, like League Cup, where teams like Liverpool play with youth squad. Nobody cares about this tournament, but it's still played, mainly for TV money.

(Istanbul) is the safest city? indeed I did not hear that in tukri there was covid-19.
Actually, there is almost 140k COVID-19 cases in Turkey and 3800 deaths. But you barely can find location in Europe which would be completely safe. And there is long time until August, number of new cases is getting smaller day by day, so until it situation may become much better.

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About the dates that are circulating, we must take them with big caution.
In these days Lyon has spoken twice yesterday and once today.
Yesterday they said "when we will play against Juventus on August 7th we will be destroyed due to the different preparation", in France the championship has been canceled while in Italy it will probably start again, nothing certain but that is the intention.

Today they spoke again confirming that the date sent yesterday is not yet official so it is not said that the Champions League will actually start again on 7 August 2020, the intention is that but it is not known yet how things will go from here to three months.

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(Istanbul) is the safest city? indeed I did not hear that in tukri there was covid-19.
Actually, there is almost 140k COVID-19 cases in Turkey and 3800 deaths. But you barely can find location in Europe which would be completely safe. And there is long time until August, number of new cases is getting smaller day by day, so until it situation may become much better.
It turns out that the infected in Turkey are quite large too but in Europe Turkey is probably one of the few with Covid-19 infection so that the final UCL was chosen in Istanbul.

Well I also see some news about deaths now where the death rate has decreased from day to day but we still need to be vigilant in the current conditions so maybe in August the number of infections will decrease even further because that's what is expected that the UCL match in one month (august) runs normally.

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May 11, 2020, 08:11:24 AM
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About the dates that are circulating, we must take them with big caution.
In these days Lyon has spoken twice yesterday and once today.
Yesterday they said "when we will play against Juventus on August 7th we will be destroyed due to the different preparation", in France the championship has been canceled while in Italy it will probably start again, nothing certain but that is the intention.

Today they spoke again confirming that the date sent yesterday is not yet official so it is not said that the Champions League will actually start again on 7 August 2020, the intention is that but it is not known yet how things will go from here to three months.

You're right.
UEFA, through its spokesman, denied the News.
So there is no official confirmation yet of the resumption of champions league competition, only speculation from individual representatives of the clubs, as was president Lyon's statement yesterday, which is quite irresponsible.
Source: ttps://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/predsjednik-lyona-tvrdio-je-da-se-liga-prvaka-vraca-uefa-ga-je-ekspresno-demantirala/2181870.aspx

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May 11, 2020, 09:36:13 AM
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Everything over the globe has been changed because of the pandemic so it is acceptable to see normality of leagues changed too. After the end of next season, I hope we will see normal ones again.

Yeah, still hard to see the best way for UCL next season and this season. If they are starting in September or October, I think that will be new formats for UCL and all league season. Because UEFA will not create a new formula to finish UCL on may. if it's possible, lots of matches will be happen per week. Maybe all will be change to the new normal. from June and move to September/October (just my opinion)

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May 11, 2020, 10:08:16 AM
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I wonder how will it affect the transfer market and the actual contracts.

Imagine for example the Coutinho case. What if he leaves Bayern in the summer transfer market? There are many similar cases, players' contracts running out, players wanting to move between clubs, clubs deciding who to buy based on their CL performances and prize money etc.

If they are postponing the CL, they should postpone the start of the transfer market as well. Otherwise, some of the decisions (Coutinho as a perfect example) might be weird.
Imagine if Chelsea buys Coutinho, he would end up playing one leg for Bayern and another one for Chelsea. Quite bizarre.

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