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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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July 12, 2020, 01:05:31 PM
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1. Manchester City 30%
2. Bayern 22%
3. PSG 14%
4. Barcelona 8%
5. RB Leipzig 8%
6. Atletico Madrid 7%
7. Atalanta 5%
8. Real Madrid 2%
9. Juventus 2%
10. Lyon, Napoli, Chelsea less than 1%

The figures are odd. I would never bet on Atalanta or Leipzig winning the Champions League before Real Madrid or Juventus. Also the probability for Manchester City is much too high. The team is worse than the last years when they always failed in the Champions League. Same to Bayern, even though I think Bayern has the best chances this year. It is the only team in the list that has convinced me the most so far.
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July 12, 2020, 01:14:18 PM
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1. Manchester City 30%
2. Bayern 22%
3. PSG 14%
4. Barcelona 8%
5. RB Leipzig 8%
6. Atletico Madrid 7%
7. Atalanta 5%
8. Real Madrid 2%
9. Juventus 2%
10. Lyon, Napoli, Chelsea less than 1%

The figures are odd. I would never bet on Atalanta or Leipzig winning the Champions League before Real Madrid or Juventus. Also the probability for Manchester City is much too high. The team is worse than the last years when they always failed in the Champions League. Same to Bayern, even though I think Bayern has the best chances this year. It is the only team in the list that has convinced me the most so far.

The odds are factor of Atlanta ro Leipzig's chances of advancing to the next round, the both have greater chances of making it to the next round ahead of Madrid, and Madrid having a greater odds would decrease Man City's odds since only one of them would advance (with Ciy in pole position) you can't win the competition if you've been eliminated hence, the Real Madrid odds value are justified, imo. However, I think Real Madrid might stun Man City.

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July 12, 2020, 01:56:05 PM
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1. Manchester City 30%
2. Bayern 22%
3. PSG 14%
4. Barcelona 8%
5. RB Leipzig 8%
6. Atletico Madrid 7%
7. Atalanta 5%
8. Real Madrid 2%
9. Juventus 2%
10. Lyon, Napoli, Chelsea less than 1%

The figures are odd. I would never bet on Atalanta or Leipzig winning the Champions League before Real Madrid or Juventus. Also the probability for Manchester City is much too high. The team is worse than the last years when they always failed in the Champions League. Same to Bayern, even though I think Bayern has the best chances this year. It is the only team in the list that has convinced me the most so far.

The odds are factor of Atlanta ro Leipzig's chances of advancing to the next round, the both have greater chances of making it to the next round ahead of Madrid, and Madrid having a greater odds would decrease Man City's odds since only one of them would advance (with Ciy in pole position) you can't win the competition if you've been eliminated hence, the Real Madrid odds value are justified, imo. However, I think Real Madrid might stun Man City.
Even the percentage of Real Madrid is lower than Atletico Madrid and I'm also not sure about that percentage especially about RB Leipzig, Atletico Madrid and Atalanta, but if it's only about Real Madrid and Man City I feel clear, Man City certainly has a greater chance and also, Bayern remain the favorite I think and that percentage should only have a gap closer because both of them have very good chances this season.

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July 12, 2020, 02:10:51 PM
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1. Manchester City 30%
2. Bayern 22%
3. PSG 14%
4. Barcelona 8%
5. RB Leipzig 8%
6. Atletico Madrid 7%
7. Atalanta 5%
8. Real Madrid 2%
9. Juventus 2%
10. Lyon, Napoli, Chelsea less than 1%

The figures are odd. I would never bet on Atalanta or Leipzig winning the Champions League before Real Madrid or Juventus. Also the probability for Manchester City is much too high. The team is worse than the last years when they always failed in the Champions League. Same to Bayern, even though I think Bayern has the best chances this year. It is the only team in the list that has convinced me the most so far.

The odds are factor of Atlanta ro Leipzig's chances of advancing to the next round, the both have greater chances of making it to the next round ahead of Madrid, and Madrid having a greater odds would decrease Man City's odds since only one of them would advance (with Ciy in pole position) you can't win the competition if you've been eliminated hence, the Real Madrid odds value are justified, imo. However, I think Real Madrid might stun Man City.
Even the percentage of Real Madrid is lower than Atletico Madrid and I'm also not sure about that percentage especially about RB Leipzig, Atletico Madrid and Atalanta, but if it's only about Real Madrid and Man City I feel clear, Man City certainly has a greater chance and also, Bayern remain the favorite I think and that percentage should only have a gap closer because both of them have very good chances this season.

You might be missing a point regarding Bayern vs Man City's chances the difference between both of them is some what significant because of their potential opponents Man City vs (Lyon or Juventus, Lyon being most likely) Bayern vs (Barcelona or Napoli, Barcelona), don't you also agree that Man City have a better chance of making it through against Lyon, than Bayern against Barcelona ? I'm not saying the odds are the correct prediction of the way things would turn out eventually, but I don't see anything wrong with the distribution, and if you put in all the factors surrounding each team's qualification chances you might agree too.

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July 12, 2020, 02:19:45 PM
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1. Manchester City 30%
2. Bayern 22%
3. PSG 14%
4. Barcelona 8%
5. RB Leipzig 8%
6. Atletico Madrid 7%
7. Atalanta 5%
8. Real Madrid 2%
9. Juventus 2%
10. Lyon, Napoli, Chelsea less than 1%

The figures are odd. I would never bet on Atalanta or Leipzig winning the Champions League before Real Madrid or Juventus. Also the probability for Manchester City is much too high. The team is worse than the last years when they always failed in the Champions League. Same to Bayern, even though I think Bayern has the best chances this year. It is the only team in the list that has convinced me the most so far.

That percentage has not yet determined the outcome later and I see some teams that currently play more interesting because the continued victory in their own league will remain if UCL starts it will certainly be very aggressive or may be weak because the match is not long started, then from me think Atalanta will be better at UCL this season.

Still a more exciting match is Real Madrid vs. Manchester City this will be a big bet for me.

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July 13, 2020, 06:31:23 AM
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1. Manchester City 30%
2. Bayern 22%
3. PSG 14%
4. Barcelona 8%
5. RB Leipzig 8%
6. Atletico Madrid 7%
7. Atalanta 5%
8. Real Madrid 2%
9. Juventus 2%
10. Lyon, Napoli, Chelsea less than 1%

The figures are odd. I would never bet on Atalanta or Leipzig winning the Champions League before Real Madrid or Juventus. Also the probability for Manchester City is much too high. The team is worse than the last years when they always failed in the Champions League. Same to Bayern, even though I think Bayern has the best chances this year. It is the only team in the list that has convinced me the most so far.

That percentage has not yet determined the outcome later and I see some teams that currently play more interesting because the continued victory in their own league will remain if UCL starts it will certainly be very aggressive or may be weak because the match is not long started, then from me think Atalanta will be better at UCL this season.

Still a more exciting match is Real Madrid vs. Manchester City this will be a big bet for me.

That percentage is just speculation based on the statistics according to data and algorithms from fivethirthyEight.com.
Of course,  we know that is impossible to predict everything and that final results will be different 😀
Still,  these numbers can help you in your betting.

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July 13, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
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I’d love to see Atalanta or Lepizig win the CL, very unlikely but would be great. I really don’t want Man City to win it, corrupt FFP cheating bastards.

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July 13, 2020, 10:15:44 AM
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[BREAKING NEWS!!!]


Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53387306

The Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) announced the club were cleared of "disguising equity funds as sponsorship contributions".

Manchester City confirmed to be in the next Champions League. Pep, De Bruyne, Sterling, everyone will stay in the club.

Ok everybody, i wanna read your thoughts about this, right now there's a meltdown on social media  Grin

edit* to those interested in reading the full decision from CAS, here's the link: https://www.tas-cas.org/en/media/media-releases.html

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July 13, 2020, 11:33:19 AM
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I’d love to see Atalanta or Lepizig win the CL, very unlikely but would be great. I really don’t want Man City to win it, corrupt FFP cheating bastards.

I don’t think any of the teams you mention here will win the Champions League as they are not used to win it like many of the bigger teams do.I think we have better teams like Psg,Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid which I think is not yet out of the Champions League as it has the power to beat Manchester City in their home field.

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July 13, 2020, 12:02:50 PM
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I’d love to see Atalanta or Lepizig win the CL, very unlikely but would be great. I really don’t want Man City to win it, corrupt FFP cheating bastards.

I don’t think any of the teams you mention here will win the Champions League as they are not used to win it like many of the bigger teams do.I think we have better teams like Psg,Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid which I think is not yet out of the Champions League as it has the power to beat Manchester City in their home field.

do not think that PSG could do it, they are out of the field since march, and it will be hard to see them in best form in a month, without matches played before
on the other hand, Bayern was in great form, they will be fresh for the tournament and one of the CL favourites IMO
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[BREAKING NEWS!!!]


Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53387306

The Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) announced the club were cleared of "disguising equity funds as sponsorship contributions".

Manchester City confirmed to be in the next Champions League. Pep, De Bruyne, Sterling, everyone will stay in the club.

Ok everybody, i wanna read your thoughts about this, right now there's a meltdown on social media  Grin

edit* to those interested in reading the full decision from CAS, here's the link: https://www.tas-cas.org/en/media/media-releases.html

Not much to say TBH, I already commented in another thread. Football is corrupt to its core and as long as it is we will have a few clubs that are above any rules and World Cups played during the winter in countries whose citizens cannot name 3 players in their national teams.

And we'll consume all of it with our mouths wide open, begging them for more.

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[BREAKING NEWS!!!]


Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53387306

The Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) announced the club were cleared of "disguising equity funds as sponsorship contributions".

Manchester City confirmed to be in the next Champions League. Pep, De Bruyne, Sterling, everyone will stay in the club.

Ok everybody, i wanna read your thoughts about this, right now there's a meltdown on social media  Grin

edit* to those interested in reading the full decision from CAS, here's the link: https://www.tas-cas.org/en/media/media-releases.html

Good news for Pep Guardiola Manchester city will continue to be at UCL with its glory now could this season be their title? Looks like the match with Real Madrid will be difficult for Mancity if it has been passed it might be easier to subvert other teams in CL.

Mancity fans will definitely be happy with this news. Grin

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July 13, 2020, 07:29:49 PM
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@tomahawk9, I'm not surprised about this decision at all. Unfortunately, it's all about the money. If some small club would be in same situation as City, I can't imagine same court decision. Well, but seems that rules aren't same for everyone, especially if you have deep pockets.
P.S. I have nothing against City players and especially Pep Guardiola, but City shouldn't play in next season Champions league.

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Am not a Manchester city fan, but for any one that loves good football and -will not face Manchester city at that point- will like to watch them in the UEFA champions league, this is good tidings for the citizens the famous noisy neighbors, they will become real challengers/contenders for the UEFA champions league, well so much for teams hoping if the come in at 5th place and have a shot at an UEFA champions league spot, every team now has to fight for the prestigious top four finish.

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July 14, 2020, 06:35:19 AM
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@tomahawk9, I'm not surprised about this decision at all. Unfortunately, it's all about the money. If some small club would be in same situation as City, I can't imagine same court decision. Well, but seems that rules aren't same for everyone, especially if you have deep pockets.
P.S. I have nothing against City players and especially Pep Guardiola, but City shouldn't play in next season Champions league.

I feel that financial fair play and justice just died yesterday 😀
Everything is about money of course and now there is no limits what others clubs like Paris SG can do and how much their rich owners can invest in new players.
Small clubs have no chance in this game any more and real sport just died.

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P.S. I have nothing against City players and especially Pep Guardiola, but City shouldn't play in next season Champions league.

Just for the sake of energizing the contenders for the top four spot in the premier league, I think I'm ok with the turn out of the appeal but wished it came early so the likes of United, Leicester and Chelsea could have up their game. They all were filling relax as all were confident of ending the season in top five which could have still guaranteed them a championship spot due to the City punishment (which has just been overturned).

Maybe in the remaining three games we'll see more determination as a result of this latest development, most especially from the Leicester and Chelsea teams because they have been the most inconsistent among others in the top five.

Ps: seems Pep has one more season to try and win or defend the title, good for him.

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Am not a Manchester city fan, but for any one that loves good football and -will not face Manchester city at that point- will like to watch them in the UEFA champions league, this is good tidings for the citizens the famous noisy neighbors, they will become real challengers/contenders for the UEFA champions league, well so much for teams hoping if the come in at 5th place and have a shot at an UEFA champions league spot, every team now has to fight for the prestigious top four finish.
Of course, every team wants to finish in the Champions League but they will continue to try to get through it. I really like the game of Manchester City because with the extraordinary tactics that Pep has applied here, we are also sening with the news that mancity will not be sanctioned and this make confidence for those who will continue to struggle to advance to the semifinals.

Who will be even better this season at UCL? I should have hoped for Liverpool but they were able to be conquered by other teams so they fell. damn it Embarrassed

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July 14, 2020, 04:01:07 PM
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if those 3 players were here today manchester united would have a very good team. Best,Law and Charlton were top players on the highest level. then the guys from manchester could dream of the championship. these 3 players with the numbers 7,9 and 10 were really great players in the past



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July 14, 2020, 08:27:22 PM
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I feel that financial fair play and justice just died yesterday 😀
Everything is about money of course and now there is no limits what others clubs like Paris SG can do and how much their rich owners can invest in new players.
Small clubs have no chance in this game any more and real sport just died.
Of course, it's all about money. It was like this. That's so. It will always be like that. But in a few months, no one will bother, and it will continue. Maybe there will be a report here and there.  But otherwise it will just go on like this.

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I feel that financial fair play and justice just died yesterday 😀
Everything is about money of course and now there is no limits what others clubs like Paris SG can do and how much their rich owners can invest in new players.
Small clubs have no chance in this game any more and real sport just died.
Though I am a neutral when it comes to teams that play in the English Premier League, but I was very disappointed by yesterday's decision to lift that Manchester City ban. What's the point of FFP is some rich clubs can just circumvent the imposed bans and rules?  Embarrassed

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