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June 01, 2022, 01:20:46 PM
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Well, it seems we are all aware, if the real hero in the match was Courtois who played well and managed to save a lot of shots. Maybe if Courtois plays badly then we'll see Real Madrid concede some goals even though they defend, right? Although I'm not saying Real Madrid's win is luck, we realize that Real Madrid are lucky to have Courtois who is highly motivated so he can play really well in the final. Because even though they play defensively, when their goalkeeper plays badly, the defense they apply will be useless.
Yes, Courtois was the hero of Real Madrid's victory because of his excellent performance that night. Maybe you're right if his form was bad Real Madrid would have conceded a few goals, but he really did his job until the end of the match. It was a great performance that he will remember later in his retirement.

I agree with you. The main hero of this match is Courtois. However, the only goal of the match was scored by the young Vinicius Junior. At the same time the performance of Madrid defenders was good enough. But Courtois is still the hero. If I'm not mistaken, Liverpool made a total of 9 on-target shots in this match. Every Liverpool attack was quite strong. Courtois successfully saved each shot. His performance has fascinated everyone.

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June 01, 2022, 01:21:48 PM
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Well, it seems we are all aware, if the real hero in the match was Courtois who played well and managed to save a lot of shots. Maybe if Courtois plays badly then we'll see Real Madrid concede some goals even though they defend, right? Although I'm not saying Real Madrid's win is luck, we realize that Real Madrid are lucky to have Courtois who is highly motivated so he can play really well in the final. Because even though they play defensively, when their goalkeeper plays badly, the defense they apply will be useless.
Yes, Courtois was the hero of Real Madrid's victory because of his excellent performance that night. Maybe you're right if his form was bad Real Madrid would have conceded a few goals, but he really did his job until the end of the match. It was a great performance that he will remember later in his retirement.
Courtois did look stunning in the final match because he was able to block several opportunities that were released by Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane. With an extraordinary performance to keep the goal from conceding it made Liverpool players frustrated because they could not score goals. Courtois has indeed been a Real Madrid hero this season and deserves to be called the best goalkeeper this season.

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June 01, 2022, 01:35:22 PM
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Next season Real Madrid will still be a strong candidate in the race for the title of any League because consistency and direction from a very experienced coach has always been the key to the success of the Real Madrid team in every match in the League. So for this season Real Madrid deserve to party to celebrate the victory they have achieved and also for next season, Real Madrid will also try to return for the same.
I think that Real Madrid is not only a strong candidate to win the Champions League trophy next season. I think Liverpool, Manchester City, PSG, Barcelona and AC Milan are also strong candidates to win the Champions League trophy next season. Every competition there is always a surprise team and we cannot decide which team has the strongest candidate to win the Champions League trophy.
Even if you look at the start of this season, Madrid is not the seed there.
Because if I remember correctly at that time the most interested in winning were the 3 EPL clubs, Bayern and PSG there.
Madrid are indeed good but on the other hand they are considered just a distraction there is nothing else.
Next season will also be the same, maybe it will be a little different but the candidates will definitely be the same as this season especially in this case it is clear that PSG and City will be the favorites considering Haaland and Mbappe are there
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June 01, 2022, 01:39:38 PM
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Liverpool all life, Klopp is a great coach and deserves to win another Champions, after the one he lost to Karius and with Ramos knocking down Salah in the first tackle. It will seem strange but Klopp has only coached 3 teams in 21 years of career, not like Ancelotti and many other great coaches who change teams every three years to exploit their players without leaving anything, the German is one who builds and wins over distance. One of a kind of him, always among the greats.

we hope it will succeed next year
no one doubts Klopp is a great coach, he has won a lot with Liverpool and it was a long wait, Klopp's arrival had a very positive impact on Liverpool's progress.
In the last 5 years, Liverpool have been in 3 UCL finals and have won it once. That's a great achievement in my opinion.
And for next year, Klopp is very confident that he will be in Istanbul to play another final, I don't think it's impossible.
It will be a bit difficult now if Klopp is not able to keep their players because so far there are several players who are in danger of leaving now and one of them is Mane who is in a great conversation this week considering in recent news he has been rumored to be moving to the Bundesliga and not renew the contract again.
Even if Klopp is a great Coach but of course there must be good players there too because it will be difficult if he is not with good players there

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June 01, 2022, 01:58:51 PM
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Paris, Chelsea, City. Games that were thought Real would lose. The Los Galacticos, who came from behind and created miracles. Also, Madrid, where no chance is given at the start of the Champions League. You are a great team. You became the team of records with Ancelotti. Arguably the most deserving team of the tournament. They came by eliminating psg from the favourites, then last season's champion Chelsea and then last year's finalist City. Liverpool played Madrid won. Courtois played the game of his life. It is also a fact that long shots were not tried, they always tried to find a goal with side balls by salah. Real scored one goal under that much pressure and they are champions. Congratulations Real Madrid

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June 01, 2022, 02:37:30 PM
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Paris, Chelsea, City. Games that were thought Real would lose. The Los Galacticos, who came from behind and created miracles. Also, Madrid, where no chance is given at the start of the Champions League. You are a great team. You became the team of records with Ancelotti. Arguably the most deserving team of the tournament. They came by eliminating psg from the favourites, then last season's champion Chelsea and then last year's finalist City. Liverpool played Madrid won. Courtois played the game of his life. It is also a fact that long shots were not tried, they always tried to find a goal with side balls by salah. Real scored one goal under that much pressure and they are champions. Congratulations Real Madrid

Real Madrid really played well in the Champions League. They have proven that having a good squad with multiple threat players is not the only way to win. Experience matters a lot in this kind of situation. Almost all the teams that they were able to beat in the Champions League had a better squad compared to Real Madrid. But that obviously did not stop them from winning.

In every match, it looked like Real Madrid was going to lose but the opposite happened. And it always felt like the opponent of Real Madrid had a chance. They had a chance but Real Madrid was too good. The fault of Liverpool was that most of the players were not in form that day. It is going to be really wrong if I say that Real Madrid was lucky. I believe that they deserved success.

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June 01, 2022, 02:46:24 PM
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Paris, Chelsea, City. Games that were thought Real would lose. The Los Galacticos, who came from behind and created miracles. Also, Madrid, where no chance is given at the start of the Champions League. You are a great team. You became the team of records with Ancelotti. Arguably the most deserving team of the tournament. They came by eliminating psg from the favourites, then last season's champion Chelsea and then last year's finalist City. Liverpool played Madrid won. Courtois played the game of his life. It is also a fact that long shots were not tried, they always tried to find a goal with side balls by salah. Real scored one goal under that much pressure and they are champions. Congratulations Real Madrid

First, Real Madrid is a very experienced team. Their coach Ancelotti is very experienced, at the same time he is very tactful. He knows the weaknesses of the team, notices the weaknesses of the opponents, and builds his match strategy accordingly. Secondly, I would say Real Madrid is very lucky. They did well in the second leg, even after losing the first leg against PSG. Against Manchester City, in the second leg, Madrid scored the first goal in the 90th minute, and they score two more goals in extra time and won. They are very lucky that they won against City. However, Real Madrid played very carefully in the final. They kept their defenses strong and then tried to attack. And won 1-0.

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June 01, 2022, 02:58:37 PM
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So far I know there are already 26 clubs that are sure to qualify for the UCL Group phase next season, and 6 clubs through the play-off phase:

EPL: Man City,Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham
Spanish League: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico and Sevilla
Seri A: AC Milan, Inter Milan, Napoli, Juventus
Bundesliga: Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Bayer Leverkusen, RB Leipzig and Eintracht Frankfurt (Europa League)
Ligue 1 : PSG and Marseille
Primeira League : FC Porto and Sporting CP.
In addition there are Ajax (Dutch League), Club Brugge (Belgian League), Salzburg (Austria), Celtic (Scotland), then Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)

So far I haven't gotten the name of the club that followed the Play Off phase. CMIIW

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Liverpool's players have attacked a lot. Liverpool played attacking from the beginning to the end of the match. As a result, Real Madrid could not create the opportunity to attack too much. From the counter attack though they tried to score. But the number was very low. However, Real Madrid won, Liverpool could not score a single goal despite a lot of attacks. This is their failure.
Liverpool from the start had attacked the Real Madrid defense and made Real Madrid play defensively but one thing that made the difference was the effectiveness in converting opportunities, the composure in attacking while Liverpool seemed rushed and impatient. this is the factor that makes the difference in the final match.
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EPL: Man City,Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham
this time it was Tottenham who became the 4th team, the rest there is nothing strange there because it remains the same as before
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Spanish League: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico and Sevilla
Seri A: AC Milan, Inter Milan, Napoli, Juventus
Bundesliga: Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Bayer Leverkusen, RB Leipzig and Eintracht Frankfurt (Europa League)
Primeira League : FC Porto and Sporting CP.

in other leagues are also relatively almost the same and nothing really significantly changes in every game. but interestingly here now the Bundesliga is represented by 5 clubs which is indeed quite a lot for them but I can't expect much in this case because in the end most likely only Bayern, Dortmund or Leipzig can talk a lot in the Champions League

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June 01, 2022, 05:00:01 PM
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Well, it seems we are all aware, if the real hero in the match was Courtois who played well and managed to save a lot of shots. Maybe if Courtois plays badly then we'll see Real Madrid concede some goals even though they defend, right? Although I'm not saying Real Madrid's win is luck, we realize that Real Madrid are lucky to have Courtois who is highly motivated so he can play really well in the final. Because even though they play defensively, when their goalkeeper plays badly, the defense they apply will be useless.
Yes, Courtois was the hero of Real Madrid's victory because of his excellent performance that night. Maybe you're right if his form was bad Real Madrid would have conceded a few goals, but he really did his job until the end of the match. It was a great performance that he will remember later in his retirement.
I think it is wrong to say that Courtois was great only in the finals and saved Real that night.
He was actually great all season and saved Real many times, especially in the Champions League.
Just look at his magnificent statistics and you will see that no other goalkeeper is close to him in terms of the number of defenses and direct impact on the result.
Without him, Real would not be even close to the finals this season.
What is amazing is that in many polls he is not even among the top 3 best goalkeepers in Europe and some polls did not even rank him among the top 10. Unbelievable and incomprehensible.

Probably that's because everyone was concentrating on PSG and Manchester City and Chelsea so much that they forgot Real Madrid will do well in the Champions League and let alone the keeper of Real Madrid. In the finals, Liverpool surprisingly found it really hard to even get past the defense of Real Madrid. That was really surprising considering that Real Madrid did not have a good defense throughout the Champions League in my opinion. I really believe the only one holding the defense of Real Madrid together was Dani Carvajal and he had the great support of his goalkeeper.

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I don't know why Football fans keep saying that Real Madrid didn't play well or were not the favourite. In a final, there are key moments, psychological moments that take a team, where the slightest error can eliminate you and the those who are best prepared for those situations end up winning or reaching the final. It is obvious that some of them didn't analyze Madrid's style of play. They had about 4 chances and throughout the game you could detect some measures of accurate passes, strong counter-attacking, good movement off the ball, exceptional positioning, fluid movement of passes between the players and most importantly discipline and focus. They were so focused on the game that they only need a chance on target to score. Anyone that understands football will never neglect Madrid's teamwork. Liverpool were playing with panic and in a rush to score which allowed Madrid to understand there strategy and loopholes. Real Madrid had to work on that and he were the champions.
I don't know who sold the " Real Madrid are so lucky" idea to everyone. I understand the English media wanted Liverpool to win so bad.  Although Real Madrid do take few shots and score in most games even in the final too. All tactics and formation are valid provided you can win your game. It's not Real Madrid's fault that their opposition will take 10 shots and none will enter back of the net.
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I don't know why Football fans keep saying that Real Madrid didn't play well or were not the favourite. In a final, there are key moments, psychological moments that take a team, where the slightest error can eliminate you and the those who are best prepared for those situations end up winning or reaching the final. It is obvious that some of them didn't analyze Madrid's style of play. They had about 4 chances and throughout the game you could detect some measures of accurate passes, strong counter-attacking, good movement off the ball, exceptional positioning, fluid movement of passes between the players and most importantly discipline and focus. They were so focused on the game that they only need a chance on target to score. Anyone that understands football will never neglect Madrid's teamwork. Liverpool were playing with panic and in a rush to score which allowed Madrid to understand there strategy and loopholes. Real Madrid had to work on that and he were the champions.
I don't know who sold the " Real Madrid are so lucky" idea to everyone. I understand the English media wanted Liverpool to win so bad.  Although Real Madrid do take few shots and score in most games even in the final too. All tactics and formation are valid provided you can win your game. It's not Real Madrid's fault that their opposition will take 10 shots and none will enter back of the net.

I would not say that Real Madrid won the final against Liverpool only because of good luck. Real Madrid's performance in the final was very good. Ancelotti knew very well that Real Madrid would never win if they played attacking tactics against Liverpool. The Liverpool team is much stronger than Real Madrid. So he has been tactful. Defensively played, and tried to score from the counter-attack. They have succeeded. Real Madrid won only because of the beautiful strategy.

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Liverpool all life, Klopp is a great coach and deserves to win another Champions, after the one he lost to Karius and with Ramos knocking down Salah in the first tackle. It will seem strange but Klopp has only coached 3 teams in 21 years of career, not like Ancelotti and many other great coaches who change teams every three years to exploit their players without leaving anything, the German is one who builds and wins over distance. One of a kind of him, always among the greats.
we hope it will succeed next year
It can be seen from Jurgen Klopp's interviews with several media that it turns out that Klopp is still finding it difficult to accept Liverpool's defeat
in the Champions League final. Klopp said Liverpool deserved to win because Liverpool were more dominant and had more chances. Klopp's statement
does make sense if we look at the match statistics Liverpool made 24 shots and 9 of them were on target. While Real Madrid only made 4 shots
and 2 were on target. Then for possession of the ball, Liverpool also slightly dominated. So I can understand why Klopp is very disappointed with
Liverpool's loss in the Champions League final. But Jurgen Klopp is still optimistic that Liverpool will return to the Champions League final next season,
but can Liverpool return to the final, because other big European teams will also want to enter the Champions League final. For me it is very difficult
to predict which team will qualify for the Champions League final, because I think the Champions League next season will be even tougher.

^ First of all, it is really hard to accept a defeat like that in the Champions League final, and secondly, we all know how much trash talking happened before the Champions League final. We can understand from that alone how much the champions league final meant to both teams. And I also believe that Liverpool was actually a better aggressor in this match.

I am sure Klopp thinks that Liverpool was really lucky to be able to score that goal. And every time Liverpool went on any attack the Real Madrid players would fall back with greater numbers which made any Liverpool attack almost impossible to reach a conclusion. I believe they will be able to get over this and play better in the next champions League.

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June 01, 2022, 05:33:27 PM
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It is over now and Liverpool will need to learn their lesson well from this final game. I was supporting Real Madrid for the championship so I'm contented with their making it. On the other hand, their performance wasn't satisfying at all. Liverpool had so many opportunities but they wasted those ones very generously. Courtois saved some incredible shots too but Liverpool's shots weren't very successful in general. Klopp would figure out the real problem in this game I assume and they would return here much stronger next time.

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Liverpool all life, Klopp is a great coach and deserves to win another Champions, after the one he lost to Karius and with Ramos knocking down Salah in the first tackle. It will seem strange but Klopp has only coached 3 teams in 21 years of career, not like Ancelotti and many other great coaches who change teams every three years to exploit their players without leaving anything, the German is one who builds and wins over distance. One of a kind of him, always among the greats.

we hope it will succeed next year

It can be seen from Jurgen Klopp's interviews with several media that it turns out that Klopp is still finding it difficult to accept Liverpool's defeat
in the Champions League final. Klopp said Liverpool deserved to win because Liverpool were more dominant and had more chances. Klopp's statement
does make sense if we look at the match statistics Liverpool made 24 shots and 9 of them were on target. While Real Madrid only made 4 shots
and 2 were on target. Then for possession of the ball, Liverpool also slightly dominated. So I can understand why Klopp is very disappointed with
Liverpool's loss in the Champions League final. But Jurgen Klopp is still optimistic that Liverpool will return to the Champions League final next season,
but can Liverpool return to the final, because other big European teams will also want to enter the Champions League final. For me it is very difficult
to predict which team will qualify for the Champions League final, because I think the Champions League next season will be even tougher.
Klopp is becoming a cry baby these days, it is understandable because football is an emotional sport but stakeholders have to learn to be magnanimous in defeat. Jurgen Kloop is clearly still angry because Real Madrid didn’t play in a way that would have favored his team, he always complains about how his opponent set up when they don’t allow him to win.
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June 01, 2022, 05:48:21 PM
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I don't know why Football fans keep saying that Real Madrid didn't play well or were not the favourite. In a final, there are key moments, psychological moments that take a team, where the slightest error can eliminate you and the those who are best prepared for those situations end up winning or reaching the final. It is obvious that some of them didn't analyze Madrid's style of play. They had about 4 chances and throughout the game you could detect some measures of accurate passes, strong counter-attacking, good movement off the ball, exceptional positioning, fluid movement of passes between the players and most importantly discipline and focus. They were so focused on the game that they only need a chance on target to score. Anyone that understands football will never neglect Madrid's teamwork. Liverpool were playing with panic and in a rush to score which allowed Madrid to understand there strategy and loopholes. Real Madrid had to work on that and he were the champions.
I don't know who sold the " Real Madrid are so lucky" idea to everyone. I understand the English media wanted Liverpool to win so bad.  Although Real Madrid do take few shots and score in most games even in the final too. All tactics and formation are valid provided you can win your game. It's not Real Madrid's fault that their opposition will take 10 shots and none will enter back of the net.

I would not say that Real Madrid won the final against Liverpool only because of good luck. Real Madrid's performance in the final was very good. Ancelotti knew very well that Real Madrid would never win if they played attacking tactics against Liverpool. The Liverpool team is much stronger than Real Madrid. So he has been tactful. Defensively played, and tried to score from the counter-attack. They have succeeded. Real Madrid won only because of the beautiful strategy.

Having a good strategy to win game that is what every team desire and a good team must possess strategies to win game, I don't think Real Madrid won liverpool by luck, they played a good game that is why they were able to succeed to win and I can't say Liverpool is a weak team. Liverpool played well but luck were not on their side to make any goal.i was not sure who will win the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid,  because I know the two teams are good.

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June 01, 2022, 05:55:53 PM
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Well, it seems we are all aware, if the real hero in the match was Courtois who played well and managed to save a lot of shots. Maybe if Courtois plays badly then we'll see Real Madrid concede some goals even though they defend, right? Although I'm not saying Real Madrid's win is luck, we realize that Real Madrid are lucky to have Courtois who is highly motivated so he can play really well in the final. Because even though they play defensively, when their goalkeeper plays badly, the defense they apply will be useless.
Yes, Courtois was the hero of Real Madrid's victory because of his excellent performance that night. Maybe you're right if his form was bad Real Madrid would have conceded a few goals, but he really did his job until the end of the match. It was a great performance that he will remember later in his retirement.
Thibaut Courtois was the hero in the UEFA Champion's League final, he had an outstanding individual performance. His fantastic performance in the champions league finals denied Liverpool the win many believed they deserved. It's good to see that he was awarded player of the match and very much, deserved.
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I don't know why Football fans keep saying that Real Madrid didn't play well or were not the favourite. In a final, there are key moments, psychological moments that take a team, where the slightest error can eliminate you and the those who are best prepared for those situations end up winning or reaching the final. It is obvious that some of them didn't analyze Madrid's style of play. They had about 4 chances and throughout the game you could detect some measures of accurate passes, strong counter-attacking, good movement off the ball, exceptional positioning, fluid movement of passes between the players and most importantly discipline and focus. They were so focused on the game that they only need a chance on target to score. Anyone that understands football will never neglect Madrid's teamwork. Liverpool were playing with panic and in a rush to score which allowed Madrid to understand there strategy and loopholes. Real Madrid had to work on that and he were the champions.
I don't know who sold the " Real Madrid are so lucky" idea to everyone. I understand the English media wanted Liverpool to win so bad.  Although Real Madrid do take few shots and score in most games even in the final too. All tactics and formation are valid provided you can win your game. It's not Real Madrid's fault that their opposition will take 10 shots and none will enter back of the net.

I saw the match, indeed overall LFC players were very good at attacking, defending and setting up, but I saw Real Madrid were very calm, brave one on one, set the tempo, didn't just make any tackles especially in the penalty box and maximized the opportunities that existed and were there. Several successful short passes were made in high pressure, meaning that Madrid were not forced to defend which Liverpool controlled for the whole minute, Madrid did a calculated counter attack strategy, and the calculation paid off.
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June 01, 2022, 06:23:17 PM
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I don't know who sold the " Real Madrid are so lucky" idea to everyone. I understand the English media wanted Liverpool to win so bad.  Although Real Madrid do take few shots and score in most games even in the final too. All tactics and formation are valid provided you can win your game. It's not Real Madrid's fault that their opposition will take 10 shots and none will enter back of the net.
I saw the match, indeed overall LFC players were very good at attacking, defending and setting up, but I saw Real Madrid were very calm, brave one on one, set the tempo, didn't just make any tackles especially in the penalty box and maximized the opportunities that existed and were there. Several successful short passes were made in high pressure, meaning that Madrid were not forced to defend which Liverpool controlled for the whole minute, Madrid did a calculated counter attack strategy, and the calculation paid off.
They knew they couldn't compete with Liverpool in terms of possession, so they sat back, tracked carefully, and created space for Vini and Benzima to counter-attack. It didn't work in the first half because they were outplayed, but they got it right in the second half, the ball possession stuff got into Liverpool players, and they left some spaces at the back, which cost them the game.

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