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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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May 06, 2022, 08:35:29 AM
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. I don't want to see an English final whose teams meet each other twice a year and we've seen them play recently. Benzema saves Real Madrid again with two goals in crazy minutes. During the broadcast there is a window showing the chances of one team or the other making it to the final. Now, Real Madrid's chances were 1%, but they did it.
yeah...real madrid really won very dramatically. The inadvertence of manchester city feeling safe can be exploited carefully by real madrid. but it's no longer surprising for real madrid who always show surprises in the 2nd leg. But the match against manchester city was a completely unexpected surprise.
I don't know how many more years Manchester City have to wait to win the Champions League. Last season Guardiola team managed to step into the final, but had to give up the UCL trophy for Chelsea because Manchester City lost in the final. This year Manchester City failed to maintain the score, Real Madrid comeback made Manchester City failed to go to the final. Manchester City has not been destined to lift the UCL Trophy in recent years, in the Premier League, they have been outstanding, while in the UCL, Manchester City has lost its strength. A very ideal final between Liverpool and Real Madrid.

I really don't think it is because Manchester City is losing its strength. it is more about Real Madrid making really great comebacks at the end of the matches in the Champions League. No one thought Real Madrid was going to win that match, especially when there were only 15 minutes left. But they did the almost impossible and came out as the winners of that match. Manchester City thought the game was almost over and they would win so they played insignificantly but it was their big mistake.
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May 06, 2022, 09:11:35 AM
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and once again showing that with all the money/capital that is being pumped into the clubs by the investors, there is no guarantee of winning any titles, let alone the cl title
and here is a small example, which refers to the below statistics:
manchester united + manchester city = €1.9b spent, 0 cl trophies
fc chelsea + fc liverpool + bayern munich = €1.2b spent, 5 cl trophies


Very precise. In football, money is not a guarantee for a club to win trophies, but money can make quite a difference.
Not that Real Madrid and Liverpool have already qualified for the UCL final, but Carlo Ancelotti's Real Madrid and Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool have really not spent a lot of money on signings this year compared to other clubs. Whether coincidentally or not, they are very smart in seeing the potential of the players they want to recruit so that they are able to meet the needs of their respective teams such as Diego Jota and Luis Diaz.

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May 06, 2022, 09:31:35 AM
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Very precise. In football, money is not a guarantee for a club to win trophies, but money can make quite a difference.
Not that Real Madrid and Liverpool have already qualified for the UCL final, but Carlo Ancelotti's Real Madrid and Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool have really not spent a lot of money on signings this year compared to other clubs. Whether coincidentally or not, they are very smart in seeing the potential of the players they want to recruit so that they are able to meet the needs of their respective teams such as Diego Jota and Luis Diaz.
From a money point of view, PSG deserves to be in the final.  Football is a team game, cohesiveness in the field and the coach tactics in the match cannot be separated from the success of a team. Real Madrid went to the final without having to spend a lot of money in the transfer market, so did Liverpool. The two UCL finalists have made more use of the existing players this season, but they have had a successful season. Real Madrid have already secured the La Liga trophy, while Liverpool are in two different finals, the Champions League and the FA Cup.

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May 06, 2022, 09:50:52 AM
Last edit: May 06, 2022, 11:51:17 AM by laurenB7742
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I was also a little surprised when Guardiola started removing the main players at the end of the match. On the other hand, one can understand his logic that the two-goal advantage turned out to be quite strong and Guardiola just wanted to strengthen his squad with fresh players, but as it turned out later, it was a fatal mistake.
I saw he just substitution the player for the right position, He did not change the formation, maybe because several players were not so solid for each other that make mistaken on back. In another situation, Real Madrid especially Benzema really doesn't want to just give away the victory until the last minutes, from trying to take flying the ball and giving assist to Rodrigo, Benzema is one important player to the winning.
Pep Guardiola think have over match because lead 1-0 until 90 minutes and have chance to final stage, He tried with make several substitution from Kevin De Bruyne, Rodri, Ryan Mahrez until Gabriel Jesus but still not effective how keep lead 1-0 before Rodrygo give hope for Real Madrid. Depending with final reach by Real Madrid I think here Pep Guardiola is not perfect head coach almost spent much money every window transfer always failed give champion league trophy for Manchester City, trough 6 year have been Manchester City manager just once time success break out to final champion league last season but failure by Chelsea and this season only success reach to semifinal only.

I thought Kevin De Bruyne's substitution was ok because he did not play well in that match in my opinion. every time he got the ball he could not keep position or also did not release the ball soon. the other substitutions are also ok as he just tried to kill time but that came back to haunt him really bad because once Real Madrid was on advantage they were killing time really well.
Anyway, it was a great match to watch and it felt really good to see both managers shaking their hands after the match ended.

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May 06, 2022, 10:02:05 AM
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Very precise. In football, money is not a guarantee for a club to win trophies, but money can make quite a difference.
Not that Real Madrid and Liverpool have already qualified for the UCL final, but Carlo Ancelotti's Real Madrid and Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool have really not spent a lot of money on signings this year compared to other clubs. Whether coincidentally or not, they are very smart in seeing the potential of the players they want to recruit so that they are able to meet the needs of their respective teams such as Diego Jota and Luis Diaz.
From a money point of view, PSG deserves to be in the final.  Football is a team game, cohesiveness in the field and the coach tactics in the match cannot be separated from the success of a team. Real Madrid went to the final without having to spend a lot of money in the transfer market, so did Liverpool. The two UCL finalists have made more use of the existing players this season, but they have had a successful season. Real Madrid have already secured the La Liga trophy, while Liverpool are in two different finals, the Champions League and the FA Cup.
In terms of money, not PSG but Manchester United are entitled to the final. You can see for yourself the picture because PSG is in third place after Manchester City as the club that spends the most money. Therefore I say that money is not a tool that can guarantee the success of a club although the effect behind the amount of money can make a difference.

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May 06, 2022, 11:13:29 AM
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Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are very good teams, if Manchester City had made it to the finals instead of Real Madrid, it would not be very enjoyable because we would be watching a Premier League match, but now two strong teams from two different countries will face each other and we will see which is the best team of this year. It will be exciting Smiley
Manchester City are not mentally enough to face Real Madrid, an aggregate advantage cannot make them winners in the second leg, even though if they are able to play consistently and don't concede at the end of the second half, then Manchester City will enter the Champions League final this season.

Proving Real Madrid as the Champions League most champions, they do have the mentality and character as champions, it has been proven in the match, Liverpool is the next challenger in the Final, this is very interesting to wait for?

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May 06, 2022, 11:56:33 AM
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I was also a little surprised when Guardiola started removing the main players at the end of the match and thought it might end badly.
It is not very surprising because the match is almost over. It is normal if the coach pulls out their main player to keep the player in a good condition for the next match. The goal made by Rodrygo was in minute 90, no one guessed it will happen. It is a miracle that Rodrygo made 2 goals in 2 minutes, it is pure luck. Although the luck won't happen without hard work from all players.
I don't believe in luck nor accidental success or wins, you get what you work for, if Manchester City was focused they should have cleared that ball up and their is this spirit Real Madrid always have when it gets to extra minutes of the game, you don't want to Fvck with them.
I can recall some seasons ago, when Sergio Ramos did put the ball at the back of the net by heading the ball. Games like this set them apart and show's how unique and different they're. They have faced the best sides and knocked them out, as it'll be a big big loss if they don't win the Champions League finals at the end of it! Seems like Lionel Messi did save Pep Guardiola a lot in the champions league! Any observing that ?!

The playstyle & body language of Manchester City was also really bad at the end of the match and Real Madrid really seized the opportunity to make a great comeback in that match. I saw the whole match and in the end, Manchester City was really interested in wasting time more than playing the actual football. Real Madrid also had a little bit of luck in their favor. otherwise, a comeback like that was never going to happen in my opinion.

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May 06, 2022, 02:31:05 PM
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It was an ideal final, both teams were outstanding. And I'm happy that neither the English derby nor the Spanish derby took place. Real Madrid and Liverpool both have an even squad, almost on all sides they have their respective advantages. Both teams will do their best to prove who is the best between them this season.
The final match for Real Madrid and Liverpool is a very interesting match to wait and watch so I'm sure the audience this time will be more than the previous one, especially since the two clubs are very balanced and equally strong. So it's not just about ideals, but also about proving who is better between a Spanish club and an English club.
it's true that they both have the same squad, even though in the last few meetings liferpol have not been able to beat real madrid, in the 2018 final they were defeated by real madrid with a score of 3-1, in the quarter-finals of 2020-2021 liferpol were also defeated again by real madrid, I really hope that liferpol can rise and break the unbeaten record of real madrid, but i am optimistic that liferpol can beat real madrid in the final, because the presence of luiz diaz can add motivation for liferpol to be able to beat real madrid in this year's final.

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May 06, 2022, 02:39:12 PM
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Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are very good teams, if Manchester City had made it to the finals instead of Real Madrid, it would not be very enjoyable because we would be watching a Premier League match, but now two strong teams from two different countries will face each other and we will see which is the best team of this year. It will be exciting Smiley
As we had hoped so far the final match between madrid and liverpool would be quite a fantastic final, apart from being from two different countries, having different styles of play, of course the current performance of the two teams who are at the top will promise a very good match, tough and full of high intensity, I think the final will be a repeat of the 2017-2018 champions league final, and liverpool, who at that time lost to madrid in the final with a score of 3-1, will certainly have the opportunity to take revenge on real madrid in Champions League Final 2021-2022 season.
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May 06, 2022, 02:48:12 PM
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Yes yes yes!

I finally have the time to speak about Real - City.

Do you agree with me that this game was simply magical ? And most likely we won't see another game like this for a long long time. I was looking at the game in minute 87 thinking that I should switch channels and most likely fell asleep but I'm so grateful I didn't switch channels and I was able to see magic live and the comeback of all comebacks. Then the meme began with Yaya Toure and the african curse on Pep and I don't want to laugh on this but man...the curse could be real ? Who knows ...for me it was simply football and desire.


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May 06, 2022, 02:53:28 PM
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The playstyle & body language of Manchester City was also really bad at the end of the match and Real Madrid really seized the opportunity to make a great comeback in that match. I saw the whole match and in the end, Manchester City was really interested in wasting time more than playing the actual football. Real Madrid also had a little bit of luck in their favor. otherwise, a comeback like that was never going to happen in my opinion.
In your opinion, from Manchester City, who is the mastermind behind the weakened defense and game that can't quickly adjust the match literature when shooting or attacking, friends?
This match banquet may be repeated on several occasions in the future, yes, but I think that's enough. I also only care about the course and the solemnity of the match.

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May 06, 2022, 03:03:30 PM
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Yes yes yes!

I finally have the time to speak about Real - City.

Do you agree with me that this game was simply magical ? And most likely we won't see another game like this for a long long time. I was looking at the game in minute 87 thinking that I should switch channels and most likely fell asleep but I'm so grateful I didn't switch channels and I was able to see magic live and the comeback of all comebacks. Then the meme began with Yaya Toure and the african curse on Pep and I don't want to laugh on this but man...the curse could be real ? Who knows ...for me it was simply football and desire.


Beside the comeback which was impressive the game itself was really average not much entertaining and i think its because both teams are not as strong as they used to be man city are not as dominant as they were in the first half of the season and for real madrid aside from some players that are well known the others are average and they does not deserve to play in such a big club i think the level of the champions league has gone down in the recent years.
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May 06, 2022, 03:35:33 PM
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Yes yes yes!

I finally have the time to speak about Real - City.

Do you agree with me that this game was simply magical ? And most likely we won't see another game like this for a long long time. I was looking at the game in minute 87 thinking that I should switch channels and most likely fell asleep but I'm so grateful I didn't switch channels and I was able to see magic live and the comeback of all comebacks. Then the meme began with Yaya Toure and the african curse on Pep and I don't want to laugh on this but man...the curse could be real ? Who knows ...for me it was simply football and desire.


Even those who were watching live at the stadium had partly left before the game ended. And of course it is a regret for them not to see firsthand what Real Madrid did to make such a great comeback. It seems when we watch a football match, especially when Real Madrid is playing, we shouldn't miss it until the final whistle is sounded. Because in just a few minutes everything can change.

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May 06, 2022, 03:46:12 PM
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The playstyle & body language of Manchester City was also really bad at the end of the match and Real Madrid really seized the opportunity to make a great comeback in that match. I saw the whole match and in the end, Manchester City was really interested in wasting time more than playing the actual football. Real Madrid also had a little bit of luck in their favor. otherwise, a comeback like that was never going to happen in my opinion.
In this case it seems that after Rodrygo's first goal they were still surprised and indeed this was quite the wrong move. Rodrygo punished them 1 minute later which left them a bit down and not very focused.
Even though from the start they played very well but it was a pity that towards the last minute they seemed less ready to face the total onslaught of Madrid players.

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May 06, 2022, 03:56:09 PM
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Congratulation to Real Madrid for the massive victory they got from Manchester city. Real Madrid really prove to their fans that Manchester city defeated them by mistakes in the first leg that made the match to ended up 2:0 for the favour of Manchester city. Real Madrid used all their power to locked out Manchester city from this tournament and to stand well to face any team in the final. I think it will be difficult for Liverpool to defeat Real Madrid because Real Madrid has different strategies they use to defeat any strong team.

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The playstyle & body language of Manchester City was also really bad at the end of the match and Real Madrid really seized the opportunity to make a great comeback in that match. I saw the whole match and in the end, Manchester City was really interested in wasting time more than playing the actual football. Real Madrid also had a little bit of luck in their favor. otherwise, a comeback like that was never going to happen in my opinion.
In this case it seems that after Rodrygo's first goal they were still surprised and indeed this was quite the wrong move. Rodrygo punished them 1 minute later which left them a bit down and not very focused.
Even though from the start they played very well but it was a pity that towards the last minute they seemed less ready to face the total onslaught of Madrid players.
Moreover, this is Real Madrid's home match at the Santiago Bernabéu which certainly puts pressure on the mentality of Manchester City players, when Rodrygo's goal was created they started to panic and even the goal that was created in extra time was created in the early minutes. This proves that Manchester City are still in adjustment because they are not ready for Real Madrid's comeback which happened at the last minute. Because when Mahrez scored Manchester City basically thought it was the end because the aggregate was 3-5, and they didn't think Real Madrid could still score two goals at the end of normal time that was amazing.

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May 06, 2022, 04:05:56 PM
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The playstyle & body language of Manchester City was also really bad at the end of the match and Real Madrid really seized the opportunity to make a great comeback in that match. I saw the whole match and in the end, Manchester City was really interested in wasting time more than playing the actual football. Real Madrid also had a little bit of luck in their favor. otherwise, a comeback like that was never going to happen in my opinion.
In your opinion, from Manchester City, who is the mastermind behind the weakened defense and game that can't quickly adjust the match literature when shooting or attacking, friends?
This match banquet may be repeated on several occasions in the future, yes, but I think that's enough. I also only care about the course and the solemnity of the match.

I believe in delivering under the current situations more than giving importance to past events. so, I believe if Manchester City had played the actual football instead of just trying to waste time it would have been a better result for them but the players seemed a lot more interested in wasting time.
I am obviously not saying that Manchester city is a bad team or anything. I also thought Manchester City was going to win that match but the body language at the end of the match seemed really bad from Manchester City.

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May 06, 2022, 04:06:40 PM
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As we had hoped so far the final match between madrid and liverpool would be quite a fantastic final, apart from being from two different countries, having different styles of play, of course the current performance of the two teams who are at the top will promise a very good match, tough and full of high intensity, I think the final will be a repeat of the 2017-2018 champions league final, and liverpool, who at that time lost to madrid in the final with a score of 3-1, will certainly have the opportunity to take revenge on real madrid in Champions League Final 2021-2022 season.
Real Madrid has been named the most difficult team to beat in a Champions League final, and it is a fact that Real Madrid have won quite a number of titles when they reached the final. It's true that Liverpool have a chance to get revenge in this season's final, but I don't think they can beat Real Madrid easily.

The final is what we've all been waiting for, so of course it's going to be an interesting match to watch. The chances of the two teams are still fairly even because both are at the peak of impressive performances, although it seems true that Real Madrid are not good, especially in defense.
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Yes yes yes!

I finally have the time to speak about Real - City.

Do you agree with me that this game was simply magical ? And most likely we won't see another game like this for a long long time. I was looking at the game in minute 87 thinking that I should switch channels and most likely fell asleep but I'm so grateful I didn't switch channels and I was able to see magic live and the comeback of all comebacks. Then the meme began with Yaya Toure and the african curse on Pep and I don't want to laugh on this but man...the curse could be real ? Who knows ...for me it was simply football and desire.


Man City's Champions League exit has been attributed to Yaya Toure's curse since the meme circulated with Yaya Toure effect. The curse of African players on Pep Guardiola is far from over yet, as there will be no champions league for him until he retires. I am simply stating the obvious, he has just been unlucky, and he will one day win the trophy before the end of his coaching career. It is not a curse.
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Congratulation to Real Madrid for the massive victory they got from Manchester city. Real Madrid really prove to their fans that Manchester city defeated them by mistakes in the first leg that made the match to ended up 2:0 for the favour of Manchester city. Real Madrid used all their power to locked out Manchester city from this tournament and to stand well to face any team in the final. I think it will be difficult for Liverpool to defeat Real Madrid because Real Madrid has different strategies they use to defeat any strong team.

The final match is not the same as other matches both teams are the best so if they only rely on different strategies do not guarantee they can win
When talking about strategy, it is actually Liverpool who relies more on strategy while Madrid so far rely on experience and luck

I just found predictions in the Champions League yes of course this prediction is not a guarantee but at least this is the possibility that can happen


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