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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129806 times)
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May 08, 2022, 05:36:00 PM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.


Manchester city's defeat in the semifinals against Real Madrid was inseparable from Pep Guardiola's own fault where it was already seen in the first leg where Manchester City liked to lead 3-0 before the final score became 4-3 as well as in the second leg where Manchester city had been ahead for up to 80 minutes before Real Madrid managed to turn things around in the final moments of the match before Manchester city was finally eliminated in extra time, Pep Guardiola's mistake was to play defensively towards the end of the game by entering Fernandinho this was immediately maximized by Carlo Ancelotti's men by scoring two goals towards the end of the game which in extratime made Real Madrid managed to get rid of the English representative 6-5 on aggregate

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May 08, 2022, 05:50:07 PM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.


Manchester city's defeat in the semifinals against Real Madrid was inseparable from Pep Guardiola's own fault where it was already seen in the first leg where Manchester City liked to lead 3-0 before the final score became 4-3 as well as in the second leg where Manchester city had been ahead for up to 80 minutes before Real Madrid managed to turn things around in the final moments of the match before Manchester city was finally eliminated in extra time, Pep Guardiola's mistake was to play defensively towards the end of the game by entering Fernandinho this was immediately maximized by Carlo Ancelotti's men by scoring two goals towards the end of the game which in extratime made Real Madrid managed to get rid of the English representative 6-5 on aggregate


Do you think? I think pep didn't make a mistake and was just unlucky. In the 80th minute you play defensively against Real when you have the lead. They also played well, but Real were just as good and in the end they had more luck.

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May 08, 2022, 06:08:26 PM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.


Manchester city's defeat in the semifinals against Real Madrid was inseparable from Pep Guardiola's own fault where it was already seen in the first leg where Manchester City liked to lead 3-0 before the final score became 4-3 as well as in the second leg where Manchester city had been ahead for up to 80 minutes before Real Madrid managed to turn things around in the final moments of the match before Manchester city was finally eliminated in extra time, Pep Guardiola's mistake was to play defensively towards the end of the game by entering Fernandinho this was immediately maximized by Carlo Ancelotti's men by scoring two goals towards the end of the game which in extratime made Real Madrid managed to get rid of the English representative 6-5 on aggregate
that match of real Madrid and manchester city the wining was because of the coach and players, because Manchester city refused to protect their goal. Their goal was so early to protect, the reason real Madrid win them  is because of the attack of scoring more goal instead of playing defensive game, their method play that day was like Chelsea kind of game

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May 08, 2022, 06:14:36 PM
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Do you think? I think pep didn't make a mistake and was just unlucky. In the 80th minute you play defensively against Real when you have the lead. They also played well, but Real were just as good and in the end they had more luck.
Is really hard to speculate what happened in the 2nd leg of the UCL semi finals between Real Madrid vs Manchester City. I mean, no one would have believed the game wasn't won already in favour of Manchester City. At least, if not winning the game in particular, thye had the aggregate to serve as there qualifier in the event of a draw. Surprisingly, the spirit of Real Madrid in Rodrygo produced the needed 2 goals to push for an extra time and K. Benzema gave them the lead with a perfectly delivered penalty.

I dontbknow what any normal coach could have done to prevent this but I think, some of the errors was in the Pep Guardiola's substitution. He so much wanted to be in control of the game and mean while, what I think would have been the best option was to let the boys play. You could see Carlo Ancelotti was even while he was loosing. Pep needs some of that calmness and not extend his tensions to the pitch.

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May 08, 2022, 06:53:55 PM
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Benzema is surely going to be the biggest threat for Liverpool and I hope they will be able to contain him. But another thing is that Liverpool must not give so much importance to Benzema that they forget about the other players in the Real Madrid team which can be really bad for Liverpool.

Another thing is Liverpool should obviously try to play really well until the last whistle is blown by the referee otherwise Liverpool might also make the same mistake that Manchester City did.
Now they have to focus on a few players like him.
Let's not forget Vini's pace and Rodrygo's good positioning when Benzema is heavily guarded at the moment.
Madrid are definitely playing at full strength now and in this match I think when they can control the midfield well it won't be too difficult.
For Liverpool themselves it looks like they are chasing the title now and they don't want what happened a few seasons ago to repeat now

I think with the quality that Liverpool have at the back I'm sure they will be able to overcome Benzema and Vini. What should be feared is the presence of Salah Mane and Luis Diaz for the Real Madrid defense, with the speed of the three of them I am sure Madrid will be in chaos. I think this is an opportunity for Liverpool to take revenge for what happened in the 2018 final, at that time Madrid benefited because Mohammad was wrongly injured. Jurgen Klopp certainly will not let the opportunity to win the Champions League trophy slip away considering they are difficult to get a major Premier League title because of the consistency of Manchester City which is so good.
2018 is an old story and even though Salah wasn't injured, their goalkeeper was still serious at that time Cheesy
The movement of Liverpool's attacking players must be blocked from the start, so their midfield must be able to win in this case at least because if the Madrid midfield is the supply of the ball to the front lines will be slightly hampered.
At the moment the gaps in Madrid's back line are still quite visible, hopefully they can fix this

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May 08, 2022, 07:23:16 PM
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Do you think? I think pep didn't make a mistake and was just unlucky. In the 80th minute you play defensively against Real when you have the lead. They also played well, but Real were just as good and in the end they had more luck.
Is really hard to speculate what happened in the 2nd leg of the UCL semi finals between Real Madrid vs Manchester City. I mean, no one would have believed the game wasn't won already in favour of Manchester City. At least, if not winning the game in particular, thye had the aggregate to serve as there qualifier in the event of a draw. Surprisingly, the spirit of Real Madrid in Rodrygo produced the needed 2 goals to push for an extra time and K. Benzema gave them the lead with a perfectly delivered penalty.

I dontbknow what any normal coach could have done to prevent this but I think, some of the errors was in the Pep Guardiola's substitution. He so much wanted to be in control of the game and mean while, what I think would have been the best option was to let the boys play. You could see Carlo Ancelotti was even while he was loosing. Pep needs some of that calmness and not extend his tensions to the pitch.

Well, I probably wouldn't have acted differently and I don't think any other coach would act differently in the situation of Pep. Ultimately, it would have been better for city if they had played offensively in the last few minutes, then Real wouldn't have been able to score two goals. Anyway, it is what it is.

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May 08, 2022, 07:25:01 PM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.
Manchester City only got tested with two strong opponents - Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid and their deficiencies were exposed. They scaled through Atletico but Real Madrid was just too balanced mentally and physically for them to go pass them. I think with the amount of money Pep Guardiola has spent, I don’t see how people can still label him as the greatest manager of all time. He keeps losing at the UEFA Champion's League with amazing and expensive world class players.
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May 08, 2022, 07:28:09 PM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.

Manchester City has shown all they were made up and it's never a surprise to me as i expected such wonderful performance from them over Real Madrid, even though the way the match goes on for Real Madrid give me a little doubts for their winning, but honestly i never thought its could be a big landslide as these, my prediction was just for a 1:0 or 2:1 game but football prediction could be with a surprising outcome we never expected, the both teams have good recommendation base on their football history and performances.

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May 08, 2022, 07:43:00 PM
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Do you think? I think pep didn't make a mistake and was just unlucky. In the 80th minute you play defensively against Real when you have the lead. They also played well, but Real were just as good and in the end they had more luck.
Is really hard to speculate what happened in the 2nd leg of the UCL semi finals between Real Madrid vs Manchester City. I mean, no one would have believed the game wasn't won already in favour of Manchester City. At least, if not winning the game in particular, thye had the aggregate to serve as there qualifier in the event of a draw. Surprisingly, the spirit of Real Madrid in Rodrygo produced the needed 2 goals to push for an extra time and K. Benzema gave them the lead with a perfectly delivered penalty.

I dontbknow what any normal coach could have done to prevent this but I think, some of the errors was in the Pep Guardiola's substitution. He so much wanted to be in control of the game and mean while, what I think would have been the best option was to let the boys play. You could see Carlo Ancelotti was even while he was loosing. Pep needs some of that calmness and not extend his tensions to the pitch.

Well, I probably wouldn't have acted differently and I don't think any other coach would act differently in the situation of Pep. Ultimately, it would have been better for city if they had played offensively in the last few minutes, then Real wouldn't have been able to score two goals. Anyway, it is what it is.

No one can guess the situation I'm sure even the Madrid players themselves didn't expect to be able to make a comeback like that luck comes suddenly
This is not the first time Pep has faced Madrid of course he knows what to do it's just that luck is not on his side Man city can't do anything
Man city did their best, even though it failed there was still another Premier team in the final.

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here's interesting Real Madrid opponents will focus on Benzema they will forget there are other players who easily get the ball and create goals. like the opponent Man City too focused on Benzema and left empty space for Rodrygo until there was a second goal. The final match will definitely be interesting because they both have a very experienced coach in the Champions League.
Benzema will be a concern for Liverpool players, Klopp will tell his men to continue to look after Benzema, it is natural for Klopp because Benzema is always the determinant of Madrid victory. Forgetting other players is also wrong, Madrid is not only Benzema, there are other players who can tear Liverpool goal. Special attention to Benzema, while other players can be escorted in turn. Klopp is a genius coach who is very experienced in facing big clubs, he will definitely do everything he can to avenge his defeat in 2018.
I agree, Benzema is not the only danger for Liverpool in the final.
Rodrygo and Vinicius Junior can also make a lot of trouble for Liverpool.
Camavinga has also been playing fantastic lately and brings a turnaround to Real every time he enters the game.
In fact, the whole Real team is very dangerous because they never give up and have a lot of confidence and experience in big matches.
Liverpool will seek revenge for the lost final from a few years ago, especially Salah, but for them it will be a very challenging and difficult match.

In the last match against Manchester City Vini Jr. had some great balls and some great chances to score but he could not capitalize on those chances. And obviously, the main problem can be Benzema for Liverpool but if they can keep Benzema quite like Manchester City did I think Liverpool will have to worry about their left-back and those dangerous crosses that Real Madrid can produce. I expect a very good final but I am still not sure which team is going to win as I think everyone is also thinking about the same thing.

Vinicius Jnr was great for the Real Madrid - Manchester City tie though but wasn't very effective until the 80th minutes onwards. He was kept quiet by Kyle Walker who did played the  through the pain and until he was too injured to carry on, he did pocket Vinicius. I believe Liverpool FC will go through the clip of the game and probably see that of PSG and Chelsea too in order to figure out how to tame Vinicius and Benzema.
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In terms of experience, it is clear that Real Madrid has no doubt in this Champions League, they are recorded as the team that has won the most trophies here with 13 trophies. And now they are targeting to add to their collection and win the title for the 14th time. It becomes more motivation for Real Madrid players to perform optimally in order to realize their wishes. However, it is true that the two teams are almost equal in terms of strength, but we are waiting to see who will prove their superiority in this match.
It is not that Real has more experience in UCL versus Liverpool, it is literally Real has more experience than any other team, they won it the most in the past 5, past 10, past 20, past 50 years. That shows you that they are constantly good and there are very few moments when they were not that great at all, and they recovered from that.

I am expecting them to be amazing in this game as well. Of course, I believe that Liverpool is the favourites here, and that is not going to change, but Real has shown that they are not willing to give up that easily neither so I wouldn't be shocked if they end up somehow beating LFC and win the cup neither.
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May 08, 2022, 08:09:09 PM
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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.
Pep Guardiola is an awesome manager but it's crazy how a manager of his caliber will have lost 6 semifinals in the champion's league. It’s even more tragic because of the quality of his teams and the monies he spent in transfer window. Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.

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The finals are between Real Madrid and Liverpool Even though many fans would have wish the finals were between the two European clubs Manchester City and Liverpool but when Manchester City lost their last match it stopped the qualifications and qualifying real Madrid to face Liverpool and with recent happening the chances of real Madrid taking the trophy is becoming high.
I think Real Madrid are well prepared to defeat Liverpool to achieve the victory because they have discovered the tactics Liverpool are using in this tournament which they will do everything possible to eliminate Liverpool from this final like the way they eliminated Manchester city in the second leg for semi final. Despite, the two team are very strong in this tournament, I think Real Madrid has became more stronger than Liverpool in this period  that will make many people to predict for Real Madrid favour for the final.

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I was watching the match again and noticed how the stadium (with the score 1-1) began to cheer when the referee announced that 6 minutes had been added. It seems that everyone was sure that Real Madrid could score one more goal, and in the end they did. As for extra time, everyone knew that Real Madrid would win, I'm sure even the City players understood this.
Not a few spectators who had left the stadium then ran to hear the equalizing goal and immediately it was like you said. Madrid fans believe that when they get a moment of added time, it means Madrid will win. It's extraordinary, watching the match like a world final and it was almost felt by us who could only watch it from the television screen. Feeling the immense power that was building within the Real Madrid players was something terrible for Manchester City at that time.

By the way, I saw the news that those fans who left the stadium at the end of the match were not allowed back even for stoppage time. I don’t know if this was done for ideological reasons or for security reasons (such abrupt returns of the crowd in the past led to cases of crush and death of fans), but whoever missed extra time and Real’s victory in this way will probably regret it all his life.

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I was watching the match again and noticed how the stadium (with the score 1-1) began to cheer when the referee announced that 6 minutes had been added. It seems that everyone was sure that Real Madrid could score one more goal, and in the end they did. As for extra time, everyone knew that Real Madrid would win, I'm sure even the City players understood this.
Not a few spectators who had left the stadium then ran to hear the equalizing goal and immediately it was like you said. Madrid fans believe that when they get a moment of added time, it means Madrid will win. It's extraordinary, watching the match like a world final and it was almost felt by us who could only watch it from the television screen. Feeling the immense power that was building within the Real Madrid players was something terrible for Manchester City at that time.

By the way, I saw the news that those fans who left the stadium at the end of the match were not allowed back even for stoppage time. I don’t know if this was done for ideological reasons or for security reasons (such abrupt returns of the crowd in the past led to cases of crush and death of fans), but whoever missed extra time and Real’s victory in this way will probably regret it all his life.
I just heard this information from you, if indeed they leave the stadium and are not allowed to enter again this is very disappointing. They shouldn't need to be barred from re-entry, as all the fans will cheer on the team again. However, I also don't agree with the attitude of the Real Madrid fans who didn't want to stay until the end of the game. Whereas loyal fans must be able to accept victory and defeat gracefully. Do not let us claim to be a team when we win, but do not want to give encouragement when destruction occurs.

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Even though Pep Guardiola has lost 6 Champion League semi-finals games, he's probably the best manager right now, arguably the best in history! The best ones always triumph in the end, he will prove his doubters wrong someday to lift the Champions league cup, and he is still very young for a coach! There is still much hope for him in Manchester City to do that, hopefully, next season or the next 2 champions league season
Manchester City tried their best in the Champion League this season. But, their performance in the Semi-finals was poor. I never expected Madrid to knock them out after they probably won in the first leg. However, Pep Guardiola have been a great Coach in Manchester City. Also, he has won three Premier League trophies consecutively. Most importantly, he led City to their first Champions League finals. Hopefully, he will surely win the Champions League trophy some day.
Pep Guardiola is an awesome manager but it's crazy how a manager of his caliber will have lost 6 semifinals in the champion's league. It’s even more tragic because of the quality of his teams and the monies he spent in transfer window. Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.

It is a pity that Pep Guardiola since becoming Man City coach in 2016 has still failed to bring Man City to the Champions League trophy.
Even though Guardiola has spent a lot of money to buy players, even Man City spent 117 million euros just to sign Jack Grealish who until now
has not been able to contribute to Man City. Man City's best achievement in the Champions League competition during Guardiola's time as manager
was reaching the final in 2021. Guardiola also actually hasn't won the Champions League for a long time, the last time he won the Champions League
trophy was eleven years ago. When Guardiola was still Barcelona manager.
 
Hopefully next year Guardiola will succeed in bringing Man City to win the Champions League trophy. Because according to rumors Sheikh Mansour as
the owner of Man City still really hopes that Guardiola can bring Man City to win the Champions League trophy. Therefore Sheikh Mansour is willing
to give 300 million pounds for Guardiola this summer to buy several players, to strengthen the Man City squad. We'll see if it's true this summer
Guardiola will bring in some new players and Guardiola can give the Champions League trophy next year. If Guardiola still fails to give the Champions
League trophy next season, there is a possibility that Guardiola will leave Man City.

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Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.
Peps evolved football. He's extremely good good but definitely not the greatest. In my opinion, Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager in terms of longevity and building title winning teams. One of the things I admire about Pep is the way that he can motivate players even though it's really easy to switch off and become overconfident, he pushes them to be at their best every game, whether it's the Champions League final.

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Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.
Peps evolved football. He's extremely good good but definitely not the greatest. In my opinion, Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager in terms of longevity and building title winning teams. One of the things I admire about Pep is the way that he can motivate players even though it's really easy to switch off and become overconfident, he pushes them to be at their best every game, whether it's the Champions League final.
Manchester City game under Pep Guardiola is so good that teams had to consistently learn how to stop losing to City. I think he might still win the champion's league if Manchester City is patient with him for another two to three years. They say former Manchester City player, Yaya Toure's curse is the problem, nevertheless Pep is the only manager with the highest loss in the semifinals stage.
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Manchester City only got tested with two strong opponents - Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid and their deficiencies were exposed. They scaled through Atletico but Real Madrid was just too balanced mentally and physically for them to go pass them. I think with the amount of money Pep Guardiola has spent, I don’t see how people can still label him as the greatest manager of all time. He keeps losing at the UEFA Champion's League with amazing and expensive world class players.
Pep Guardiola is not the best coach in the world, this final match will prove who is the best coach in the world this season whether it's Klopp or Ancelotti. but my prediction is that the team that will come out victorious in this final is Liverpool, they really look dominant and good in every match they live. Klopp will definitely not make Liverpool get a draw or lose like when they faced Tottenham yesterday.
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Pep Guardiola has arguably changed the European football with his beautiful attacking and high ball possessing style of football.
Peps evolved football. He's extremely good good but definitely not the greatest. In my opinion, Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager in terms of longevity and building title winning teams. One of the things I admire about Pep is the way that he can motivate players even though it's really easy to switch off and become overconfident, he pushes them to be at their best every game, whether it's the Champions League final.
If only he stays at barcelona or bayern munich , i just can't imagine how many champions league title he will have now. or else moving to other potential club like chelsea maybe instead manchester city to build his own legacy just like sir alex ferguson , h ejust landed at the wrong club.

while sir alex ferguson landed at the correct club at the right time, perfect match and he is a living legend as a manager with tons of achievements.

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