⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Silberman]

It would be too much to ask for Messi to play like his times at Barcelona now. Because he is in a completely different place now and he is trying to perform well under this kind of a game plan. He isn't familiar with this too much due to being accustomed to Barcelona's game plan. However he is improving his performance at PSG slowly too. Maybe he wouldn't play like in the old times but he can still make a bigger contribution to the team next season. He had better do that to help PSG win the CL title finally.

Messi has also stated that after getting covid he is not really the same, now some may think this is just an excuse but there are many reports that even those that recover from covid suffer aftereffects that last for a long time, so even if Messi has been a super athlete for a long time it is obvious that this could have a severe effect on his abilities, so I hope that we can see a Messi which plays way better than what we have seen so far with PSG, even if it will nowhere near close to levels he reached when playing at Barcelona.

[Swordsoffreedom]

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To judge his qualities as a coach, you need not more time, but more or less fair competition with other competitors. Many can take the top club with the best players and give results. I would like to see him take a club smaller than PSG/Bayern/City and be able to beat one of the listed monsters (not in one game but in the championship). But I think I will never see it because Guardiola will never take such a risk.

Well, I actually think that will be going to happen if he does not bring home the Champions League trophy next time. Surly Manchester City will not keep him as a coach if he fails to do that.
This team has basically become a better PSG. Just like PSG, they are winning the English Premier League title but are not successful in the Champions League. And I have not mentioned that the Champions League is their main target yet. So, I think that is what he is getting ready for the next season.

[DanWalker]

True, I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is not the only player who has made a big contribution to Real Madrid. At that time, almost all Real Madrid lines played very well, even in my opinion Real Madrid was the best club. But Cristiano Ronaldo is able to become the player with the highest rating, in my personal opinion.
Despite his declining form now, which made him stand out even more when he played for Real Madrid, Real Madrid are good at taking advantage of the advantages he has.

Unfortunately we don't have him in the Champions League next season because Manchester United didn't make it to the Champions League. Maybe it's time for Ronaldo to think realistically if he wants to play in the Champions League then he will have to choose another team next season, but it looks like he will stay at Manchester United.

As for anything related to stats so far, then I'm sure we all know what it's like by now. He can still score goals, make assists and contribute to his team, but it's clear he has changed because of his age. Maybe in the next 3-4 years we will lose this mega star figure in the field.

I really did not want him to stay in Manchester United because I think this team has been a waste of time for him. He has tried to do really well even without having any support and he also did well in my opinion but the team didn't provide him with anything except for doubting him and his ability even when he was performing.

I don't know if the next season is going to be any better but Manchester United is showing good signs so far. But I still believe that he should make a move to a team so that he can play in the Champions League.

[savetheFORUM]

To judge his qualities as a coach, you need not more time, but more or less fair competition with other competitors. Many can take the top club with the best players and give results. I would like to see him take a club smaller than PSG/Bayern/City and be able to beat one of the listed monsters (not in one game but in the championship). But I think I will never see it because Guardiola will never take such a risk.

I disagree, you could have all kinds of players you want, and still fail to win, look at PSG right now, they have a magnificent squad, like unbelievable levels of talent, and what pochettino did with it. Plus, you guys may think that City is a marvelous team and you are right, but look at the players individually.

Do you really think that all of them would be worth this much if they weren't in city? I mean put each o them on another big club, Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid, Dortmund, Juventus etc etc, and each would have a big fall in value. They are very valuable all together because of Pep if you ask me, they are great, but he makes them even better as a team.

[Gencecikmen]

Real Madrid needs to get new players because to build and strong team to compete. I read in a speculation that Real Madrid has allocated 400 million dollars budget for the transfer. I read today in a speculation that Cristiano Ronaldo was on Real Madrid's agenda.

There were some rumours regarding Cristiano Ronaldo to join Real Madrid in this transfer window but it was gone already in a short time. If this time is for real then I'm very excited about it already now. Cristiano Ronaldo has had his best years with Real Madrid so far surely. Therefore it sounds great to have him back there. But on the other hand this can be a problematic thing for Benzema. Because he is playing as a centre-forward now and he might have to play as a second striker or something like that when Ronaldo comes.

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

To judge his qualities as a coach, you need not more time, but more or less fair competition with other competitors. Many can take the top club with the best players and give results. I would like to see him take a club smaller than PSG/Bayern/City and be able to beat one of the listed monsters (not in one game but in the championship). But I think I will never see it because Guardiola will never take such a risk.

Been a good coach doesn't mean you have to do it with smaller teams. There aren't many managers that can handle star players and they'll flop at big clubs. Thomas Tuchel had issue because of big names in PSG but did well when he came to a club with average players in regards to media pressure and other things associated with stars figures. We saw him having same issue with Lukaku at Chelsea as well. Mauricio Pochettino took over Management at PSG and haven't done the best Job so far which is why there are rumors of PSG wanting to replace him.

It's one thing to manage a top club and it's another thing to bring the best out of them. A team having players such as Messi, Neymar, Mbappé etc can't be an easy job so many will flop at managing them. Every manager has their specialties, Pep is a good Manager and should be considered among the best out there.

[JeromeTash]

Ronaldo made the best choice by leaving Real Madrid although Manchester United may have not been the best choice for Ronaldo to transfer to then that was the only available option for Ronaldo since he was undervalued at Real Madrid with the rejection of his new salary demand after performing extraordinarily to put the club in a good spot.

It's always about Business and from what I can see, Real Madrid made a pretty much good decision and deal as well. Fishing over 100M Euros from a-33 year old is no easy thing to do. Barcelona failed to even get a single cent out of 33-year-old Messi, Lol.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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Many have had many complaints and disagreements about the way Real Madrid won and I think that Real Madrid scored the only goal necessary to win and that is what is required, the one who scores the goals is the one who wins, luck fctor? maybe, but there are a lot of teams looking for that luck and they don't.

Luck will not come repeatedly. Remember when they played against PSG, Chelsea and Man City. I think their patterns are almost similar. Did not have the ball and relied on counterattacks and effective finishing.
No one is lucky that Anceloti has thought about it all, the timing of the game being an addition to that success. I also don't agree madrid won because of luck. Their players have been mentally prepared and play more effectively.

You are right, what happens is that of course many who are fans of other teams it is very easy for them to say that they won by sheer luck, but there is a factor that very few believe and talk about and that is the luck factor, yes, despite everything "Champion's luck" is something that exists for me, I'm a fan of Real Madrid, I also know and I'm sure that the most difficult opponent for them to knock down was Man City, that really was the final for me, now in the case that it would have been Bayern Munich, for me the winner would have been that German team, that their mistake was trusting against Villareal, for me Villareal was the team that helped Real Madrid the most.

Ronaldo made the best choice by leaving Real Madrid although Manchester United may have not been the best choice for Ronaldo to transfer to then that was the only available option for Ronaldo since he was undervalued at Real Madrid with the rejection of his new salary demand after performing extraordinarily to put the club in a good spot.

It's always about Business and from what I can see, Real Madrid made a pretty much good decision and deal as well. Fishing over 100M Euros from a-33 year old is no easy thing to do. Barcelona failed to even get a single cent out of 33-year-old Messi, Lol.

You are absolutely right, at least for me CR7 is a much better player than Messi, because CR7 is a player who is always forged while Messi is pure talent, however with Barcelona Messi tried to stay so they lowered his salary because he did not want leave, even so they rejected him and I think that for this reason Barcelona has not achieved anything, they went through an abyss where Xavi tries to lift him up, for me both Man United and Barcelona need players to help their stars, they need make good investments.

[Pokapoka124]

Though City were favorites to win the league, I won't entirely blame Guardiola for not meeting the expectation of the club and the fans, yes it is the duty of the manager to recruit and put together the team to compete and win trophies which he obviously is doing but not to the required standard but I think the players also have the duty to themselves to put in their best and support the goal of the club, they have to go for it and do everything possible and putting there best to achieving that goal, I think it should be team work not just Guardiola.

[rby]

Though City were favorites to win the league, I won't entirely blame Guardiola for not meeting the expectation of the club and the fans, yes it is the duty of the manager to recruit and put together the team to compete and win trophies which he obviously is doing but not to the required standard but I think the players also have the duty to themselves to put in their best and support the goal of the club, they have to go for it and do everything possible and putting there best to achieving that goal, I think it should be team work not just Guardiola.

Can you please say what made City the favourites to win the champions league?

How do you determine the favourites?

How many times has City won the league before?

Howany champions league experienced players did City go to champions league with?

Was City's forward better than Neymar, Mbappe and Messi combination?

Was it better than Diaz, Mane and Salah?

Was City's midfield better than Modric, Kroose and Casemaro?

What actually made them the favourites??

[Cookdata]

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

Seeing that his performances in Real Madrid have remained among the best in all of the teams to which he has transferred, I don't believe Ronaldo would want to return to Real Madrid, and you should be aware that times have changed. It wasn't like before, when Benzema would always stand by the side of crowds, cheering for others; now he wanted to represent even at his age, and you know, the jungle can't have two kings.

Mbape is still young and has a lot of potentials, but the fact that he gave them hope to come to Real Madrid and then switched because of money is a black mark on his career. Real Madrid fans booed him on the red carpet at one event last week and spread him water, and he deserved it. He should go and learn from notable players who were once like him and faded out.

[Juggy777]

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

Seeing that his performances in Real Madrid have remained among the best in all of the teams to which he has transferred, I don't believe Ronaldo would want to return to Real Madrid, and you should be aware that times have changed. It wasn't like before, when Benzema would always stand by the side of crowds, cheering for others; now he wanted to represent even at his age, and you know, the jungle can't have two kings.

Mbape is still young and has a lot of potentials, but the fact that he gave them hope to come to Real Madrid and then switched because of money is a black mark on his career. Real Madrid fans booed him on the red carpet at one event last week and spread him water, and he deserved it. He should go and learn from notable players who were once like him and faded out.

I am 100% confident that Ronaldo is not coming back to Real Madrid because it’s too late for him, and secondly Real Madrid do not need him now. Also what Mbappe did will be forgotten in the long term if he wishes to go to Real Madrid, because end of day he’ll yet be one of the most lethal striker and with him Real Madrid can continue to target more champions league titles.

[Despairo]

I am 100% confident that Ronaldo is not coming back to Real Madrid because it’s too late for him, and secondly Real Madrid do not need him now. Also what Mbappe did will be forgotten in the long term if he wishes to go to Real Madrid, because end of day he’ll yet be one of the most lethal striker and with him Real Madrid can continue to target more champions league titles.

Ronaldo wouldn't come back to Real Madrid, it's not about he was too late, but he want to end his career on his old club e.g. Manchester United where he become very popular until now. Not a good move for other clubs who want to buy Ronaldo, he's already old and he might only have around 3-5 years more before he will retire. Without Mbappe, Real Madrid can hunt other good players on low clubs.

[Davian144]

Real madrid is a great club with great history, great players who have also played and represented the club in the past. Christiano Ronaldo is no exception, he is a legend and Real Madrid can never forget him for his efforts and glory days in Spain. Even after his departure the club has other new and old players also giving in their best, playing for the badge and winning more trophies for the club.

That's obviously true, but what needs to be understood is that Real Madrid has so many great players historically and that includes Christiano Ronaldo that it's not just one person that needs to be taken into account, even though Christiano Ronaldo is a very famous player. Christiano Ronaldo's efforts at Real Madrid before moving to Manchester United were extraordinary, but it also has to do with other players in terms of working together in a team so Real Madrid looks very successful with the cohesiveness of its players in every game.

[TopT3ns]

Real madrid is a great club with great history, great players who have also played and represented the club in the past. Christiano Ronaldo is no exception, he is a legend and Real Madrid can never forget him for his efforts and glory days in Spain. Even after his departure the club has other new and old players also giving in their best, playing for the badge and winning more trophies for the club.

That's obviously true, but what needs to be understood is that Real Madrid has so many great players historically and that includes Christiano Ronaldo that it's not just one person that needs to be taken into account, even though Christiano Ronaldo is a very famous player. Christiano Ronaldo's efforts at Real Madrid before moving to Manchester United were extraordinary, but it also has to do with other players in terms of working together in a team so Real Madrid looks very successful with the cohesiveness of its players in every game.

I think Christiano Ronaldo is a professional player who should have calmed down and devoted his skills to a big club that often wins because if he moves to another club he is not young so it might affect his stamina. Ronaldo should be in the right place by now because Manchester United is a big club that often wins in several matches.

[Jody.Drummer]

I am 100% confident that Ronaldo is not coming back to Real Madrid because it’s too late for him, and secondly Real Madrid do not need him now. Also what Mbappe did will be forgotten in the long term if he wishes to go to Real Madrid, because end of day he’ll yet be one of the most lethal striker and with him Real Madrid can continue to target more champions league titles.

Ronaldo wouldn't come back to Real Madrid, it's not about he was too late, but he want to end his career on his old club e.g. Manchester United where he become very popular until now. Not a good move for other clubs who want to buy Ronaldo, he's already old and he might only have around 3-5 years more before he will retire. Without Mbappe, Real Madrid can hunt other good players on low clubs.

I think Cristiano Ronaldo could come back if Real Madrid wanted him like they did when they signed him from Manchester United. But the chances of Real Madrid wanting him are very slim, and even if they did I think Real Madrid would consider it because it would be good for them to look for young players with potential to project for the long term.

[Gianluca95]

Real madrid is a great club with great history, great players who have also played and represented the club in the past. Christiano Ronaldo is no exception, he is a legend and Real Madrid can never forget him for his efforts and glory days in Spain. Even after his departure the club has other new and old players also giving in their best, playing for the badge and winning more trophies for the club.

That's obviously true, but what needs to be understood is that Real Madrid has so many great players historically and that includes Christiano Ronaldo that it's not just one person that needs to be taken into account, even though Christiano Ronaldo is a very famous player. Christiano Ronaldo's efforts at Real Madrid before moving to Manchester United were extraordinary, but it also has to do with other players in terms of working together in a team so Real Madrid looks very successful with the cohesiveness of its players in every game.

I think Christiano Ronaldo is a professional player who should have calmed down and devoted his skills to a big club that often wins because if he moves to another club he is not young so it might affect his stamina. Ronaldo should be in the right place by now because Manchester United is a big club that often wins in several matches.

The better thing for Cristiano Ronaldo is to stay at Manchester, in Real Madrid he has left many great memories, an his returns could break it and cause him a fall of popularity. He also has some years, it isn't anymore a kid,

so, this choice to come back to Manchester and close the career over there is the best for him.

[BuNga_cute]

I am 100% confident that Ronaldo is not coming back to Real Madrid because it’s too late for him, and secondly Real Madrid do not need him now. Also what Mbappe did will be forgotten in the long term if he wishes to go to Real Madrid, because end of day he’ll yet be one of the most lethal striker and with him Real Madrid can continue to target more champions league titles.

Ronaldo wouldn't come back to Real Madrid, it's not about he was too late, but he want to end his career on his old club e.g. Manchester United where he become very popular until now. Not a good move for other clubs who want to buy Ronaldo, he's already old and he might only have around 3-5 years more before he will retire. Without Mbappe, Real Madrid can hunt other good players on low clubs.

I think Cristiano Ronaldo could come back if Real Madrid wanted him like they did when they signed him from Manchester United. But the chances of Real Madrid wanting him are very slim, and even if they did I think Real Madrid would consider it because it would be good for them to look for young players with potential to project for the long term.

Real Madrid now have quite a lot of players over the age of 30, so it's not a good decision to bring in Ronaldo. Even though Real Madrid are
financially capable of paying Ronaldo a high salary, but Real Madrid realized they needed more young players for now, to be able to regenerate
Real Madrid's current squad. So when some of the main players retire or move to other teams, Real Madrid has prepared a replacement.
No wonder Real Madrid finally bought Aurelien Tchouameni who was still 22 years old, it seems that Real Madrid now prefers to gather young players,
because Real Madrid really wants to prepare for their future.

[babo]

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

yes it's true, CR7 attracts fans and subscriptions
but I always see it only as a commercial operation rather than a strategic one
I honestly don't know if I would take him on my team (if I could)

this is not the time to spend money like this, you have to do the math well (like Juventus did)

[hahay]

Benzema has earned maximum respect for Real Madrid and as the current face of Real Madrid. I don't think it will be a problem for Benzema if CR7 comes back to Real Madrid. In addition, Cristiano Ronaldo is a name that attracts attention in the fans and in the media. Real Madrid failed in the transfer of Kylian Mbappé and only a big name like Crisitiana Ronaldo can close this file.

yes it's true, CR7 attracts fans and subscriptions
but I always see it only as a commercial operation rather than a strategic one
I honestly don't know if I would take him on my team (if I could)

this is not the time to spend money like this, you have to do the math well (like Juventus did)

Bringing Ronaldo back to the Real Madrid team is not a good choice, how can Real Madrid continue to recruit old players when they have to start regeneration. The assumption about bringing back to Real Madrid is a big mistake, Ronaldo's contract at Manchester United still has one season left until June 2023 which makes Real Madrid have to spend a lot of money on old players. Unlike the case if Ronaldo's contract has expired then Real Madrid can freely get him, after all there are still many younger players with good talent over time. For now, Real Madrid still have a good squad so that with time Real Madrid can still build a team with fresher players and about the title race of course it will still happen. But there's nothing wrong with not being able to defend the title, because that is something difficult.