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December 19, 2023, 07:24:33 AM
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South Africa conceded a humiliating defeat in the last T20 match and the first ODI match. They lost both these matches by huge margins. The South African team was defeated due to the very poor performance of the batsmen. I don't see any chance of victory against India unless the performance of the team's batsmen improves. South Africa set a target of just 117 runs in the first ODI. At least 300 was needed on this pitch to beat India. We saw very bad batting from South Africa. In today's match batsmen have to bat with more responsibility.
Their batting lineup was not very experienced. Quinton de Kock has retired from ODI format to focus more on T20. And during last match the inexperienced pair of Reeza Hendricks and Tony de Zorzi opened the batting for them. The middle order was quite experienced, with players such as Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen and David Miller. But none of them scored runs during the last match. And then their pace bowlers were completely new to international cricket, including Nandre Burger and Wiaan Mulder. 

I partially agree with you. In the last World Cup we saw all the great innings from the South African batsmen. They have given away big targets in almost every match even though the team has failed to qualify for the finals. However, I thought we would see better batting from the South African players in the home matches. But I don't see that. We saw very bad batting from the South African batsmen in both the matches. If the South African batsmen can bat well in today's match then the match will be competitive. If not, we will see the dominance of only Indian players in today's match as well.

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December 19, 2023, 07:27:35 AM
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Their batting lineup was not very experienced. Quinton de Kock has retired from ODI format to focus more on T20. And during last match the inexperienced pair of Reeza Hendricks and Tony de Zorzi opened the batting for them. The middle order was quite experienced, with players such as Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen and David Miller. But none of them scored runs during the last match. And then their pace bowlers were completely new to international cricket, including Nandre Burger and Wiaan Mulder. 
I don't really understand where South Africa's problem lies, although they did fairly well in the ICC World Cup 2023 a few days ago and managed to reach the semi-finals. Yes it is true that, Indian team is more stronger from the both side batting and bowling from current South African team. But, actually, I didn't expect that they did the performance in previous match, they show a very poor performance specially in the side of batting.  I don't think any different thing will happen today other than that, India will win this match.

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December 19, 2023, 07:34:25 AM
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So friends today is the 2nd ODI between South Africa and India. We all know that how the Indian team performance in the last match. Arshdeep and Avesh Khan was really good in that match. I was looking that South Africa was not good overall in T20I series or in ODI series. In third T20I they made only 95 runs all team out and in the First ODI they made only 116 runs and all team out.
By the way I think South Africa will make a comeback today. Or maybe can give a surprise to everyone. But Indian team is really strong so we can't say anything at this time so let's see. Smiley
Today again the second ODI match between South Africa vs India will be held. I will keep India ahead in today's match. That's because India bowled out South Africa for just 116 runs in the first ODI. They will try to turn around in this match of South Africa today. Of course they will try to play well. But maybe they are very confident because the Indian team won the first match by a huge run. They will win the second ODI as well. Now let's see which team wins the toss and chooses to bat in the end.

Today we are looking at India vs South America match to see how well South Africa can play against India today.South Africa lost miserably to India in the first ODI but they must turn around and win this match if they want to level the series at one.
I think South Africa will bat and bowl well in this match to win the match.No matter what we say, they will win matches based on their playing.
In the first match we saw India win by 8 wickets against South Africa. Even today it is predicted that India will beat South Africa to win the second ODI match. India will need both good bowling and good batting to win the second ODI match. The match will be held at 5 pm Bangladesh time. The match will be played at Geberha Stadium in South Africa. Although South Africa looks strong at their home ground, today I will predict India to beat South Africa in this second match to win the match. But do you think India can beat South Africa to win the second ODI match?

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December 19, 2023, 07:36:01 AM
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Their batting lineup was not very experienced. Quinton de Kock has retired from ODI format to focus more on T20. And during last match the inexperienced pair of Reeza Hendricks and Tony de Zorzi opened the batting for them. The middle order was quite experienced, with players such as Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen and David Miller. But none of them scored runs during the last match. And then their pace bowlers were completely new to international cricket, including Nandre Burger and Wiaan Mulder. 
I don't really understand where South Africa's problem lies, although they did fairly well in the ICC World Cup 2023 a few days ago and managed to reach the semi-finals. Yes it is true that, Indian team is more stronger from the both side batting and bowling from current South African team. But, actually, I didn't expect that they did the performance in previous match, they show a very poor performance specially in the side of batting.  I don't think any different thing will happen today other than that, India will win this match.
The openers are not experienced and the middle order is inconsistent. Seam bowling is not that good, spin bowling is best with only two spinners. These are a few problems that South Africa is currently facing, today they should make a comeback. They playing at home and are aware of the condition. Indian bowling duo Arshdeep and Khan are very inconsistent. They would leak runs today, not all Indian batters are accustomed to the condition as they have less experience. South Africa will win today!
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December 19, 2023, 08:15:17 AM
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New Zealand vs Bangladesh

In the first match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, due to rain, both teams got a chance to play 30 overs.
Batting first, New Zealand scored 239 runs in 30 overs.
Batting against the target of 239 runs given by the New Zealand team, Aisa Bangladesh was bowled out for just 200 runs.In this match, Bangladesh was miserably defeated by New Zealand. The second ODI between Bangladesh and New Zealand will be held on December 20.Maybe Bangladesh will turn around in this match and try their best to win the match against New Zealand.

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December 19, 2023, 08:26:13 AM
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New Zealand vs Bangladesh

In the first match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, due to rain, both teams got a chance to play 30 overs.
Batting first, New Zealand scored 239 runs in 30 overs.
Batting against the target of 239 runs given by the New Zealand team, Aisa Bangladesh was bowled out for just 200 runs.In this match, Bangladesh was miserably defeated by New Zealand. The second ODI between Bangladesh and New Zealand will be held on December 20.Maybe Bangladesh will turn around in this match and try their best to win the match against New Zealand.
The way Bangladesh team started the game against New Zealand in the first match was not possible for them, but due to the fall of wickets it was not possible. But I think Bangladesh has a chance to win against New Zealand if the next match is not rained and DL system is not used. And the second ODI match is most important for Bangladesh because if they don't win one match then they will not win the series. So Bangladesh have to play accordingly and beat New Zealand or else they cannot win this third ODI series.

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December 19, 2023, 08:33:46 AM
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New Zealand vs Bangladesh

In the first match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, due to rain, both teams got a chance to play 30 overs.
Batting first, New Zealand scored 239 runs in 30 overs.
Batting against the target of 239 runs given by the New Zealand team, Aisa Bangladesh was bowled out for just 200 runs.In this match, Bangladesh was miserably defeated by New Zealand. The second ODI between Bangladesh and New Zealand will be held on December 20.Maybe Bangladesh will turn around in this match and try their best to win the match against New Zealand.

@AirtelBuzz I guess New Zealand player’s mentality was way better than the Bangladesh player’s and this is something the Bangladesh player’s need to learn if they wish to beat New Zealand. Furthermore I feel that Bangladesh will be hurting post this loss hence I expect them to put in a spirited performance and possibly even surprise New Zealand by defeating them.
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December 19, 2023, 09:04:18 AM
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@AirtelBuzz I guess New Zealand player’s mentality was way better than the Bangladesh player’s and this is something the Bangladesh player’s need to learn if they wish to beat New Zealand. Furthermore I feel that Bangladesh will be hurting post this loss hence I expect them to put in a spirited performance and possibly even surprise New Zealand by defeating them.
The players of the New Zealand team played this match on their country's soil for which their mentality was more than the players of Bangladesh.Bangladesh team has many inexperienced players mostly young players playing in this series against New Zealand.Shakib Al Hasan, one of the best all-rounders in Bangladesh, is not a regular with the team because of which the Bangladesh team is relatively weaker than New Zealand.
Still hope that Bangladesh team will do well and even win against New Zealand by playing well.

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December 19, 2023, 09:06:23 AM
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New Zealand vs Bangladesh

In the first match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, due to rain, both teams got a chance to play 30 overs.
Batting first, New Zealand scored 239 runs in 30 overs.
Batting against the target of 239 runs given by the New Zealand team, Aisa Bangladesh was bowled out for just 200 runs.In this match, Bangladesh was miserably defeated by New Zealand. The second ODI between Bangladesh and New Zealand will be held on December 20.Maybe Bangladesh will turn around in this match and try their best to win the match against New Zealand.

@AirtelBuzz I guess New Zealand player’s mentality was way better than the Bangladesh player’s and this is something the Bangladesh player’s need to learn if they wish to beat New Zealand. Furthermore I feel that Bangladesh will be hurting post this loss hence I expect them to put in a spirited performance and possibly even surprise New Zealand by defeating them.
Although Bangladesh played well towards the end of the first innings, they can bat well in the beginning. Although Bangladesh's run-rate was great, Mehdi Hasan Miraj and Afif Hossain managed to take the team's total to 200 runs at the end when five wickets fell for 105 runs. However, in the first over of New Zealand's innings, they were able to create pressure on New Zealand by collecting two wickets, but in the end, New Zealand was able to handle the pressure and create reverse pressure on the Bangladeshi bowlers. In the end they scored 239 runs in 30 overs delayed due to rain which certainly put a lot of pressure on Bangladesh. However, Bangladesh played up to 30 overs and collected 200 runs was not bad at all.

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December 19, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
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New Zealand vs Bangladesh

In the first match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, due to rain, both teams got a chance to play 30 overs.
Batting first, New Zealand scored 239 runs in 30 overs.
Batting against the target of 239 runs given by the New Zealand team, Aisa Bangladesh was bowled out for just 200 runs.In this match, Bangladesh was miserably defeated by New Zealand. The second ODI between Bangladesh and New Zealand will be held on December 20.Maybe Bangladesh will turn around in this match and try their best to win the match against New Zealand.

@AirtelBuzz I guess New Zealand player’s mentality was way better than the Bangladesh player’s and this is something the Bangladesh player’s need to learn if they wish to beat New Zealand. Furthermore I feel that Bangladesh will be hurting post this loss hence I expect them to put in a spirited performance and possibly even surprise New Zealand by defeating them.
Although Bangladesh played well towards the end of the first innings, they can bat well in the beginning. Although Bangladesh's run-rate was great, Mehdi Hasan Miraj and Afif Hossain managed to take the team's total to 200 runs at the end when five wickets fell for 105 runs. However, in the first over of New Zealand's innings, they were able to create pressure on New Zealand by collecting two wickets, but in the end, New Zealand was able to handle the pressure and create reverse pressure on the Bangladeshi bowlers. In the end they scored 239 runs in 30 overs delayed due to rain which certainly put a lot of pressure on Bangladesh. However, Bangladesh played up to 30 overs and collected 200 runs was not bad at all.

After losing 5 top order batsmen for 105 I thought Bangladesh's innings would be over by 150. But Bangladesh managed to collect 200 runs. They narrowed the margin of defeat. But there was no attempt to win between them.

It is unlikely that Bangladesh will make a comeback or win the second match. It is impossible to make predictions about the performance of Bangladesh team. This team has a lot of talented players. But every player's performance is erratic. There is no player in the team who can bat responsibly and perform well in every match. If Sakib was with the squad then maybe the Bangladesh team would have been a bit stronger.

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December 19, 2023, 11:09:34 AM
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South Africa  vs  India

South Africa won the toss and decided to field today against India. In the first match we saw that the South African team faced a batting disaster by batting earlier. The team lost all wickets for just 116 runs. Indian team reached the target of victory very easily. And so the decision to take the fielding in today's match seems right to me.

Raturaj Gaikwad opened the innings with a boundary on the first ball. But Gaikwad got out on the second ball and returned to the dressing room. Openers should bat responsibly. One should not bat aggressively in the opening overs in the ODI format.

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South Africa  vs  India

South Africa won the toss and decided to field today against India.
Hahaha!
They think India done with us in the previous match and now they have chosen to field first. They will see the batting of India team first.
But South Africa just surprising me and they have collected first wicket on the second ball of the match. Ruturaj Gaikwad  made only 4 runs. Now Tilak Varma and Sai Sudharsan are facing the South African team. And they are playing wisely. And not trying to give them wicket. I hope that India will perform in this match too. But there are the chances that South Africa can make a comeback.

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I've had an opportunity to visit India and some places in Bangladesh. Actually, those people are crazy about cricket, I know a lot of people who followed the u-19 Asia Cup specially when they heard that they were going to face India u-19 in the Semi-finals. There is always a craze between Bangladesh vs India matches. Although there have been disappointing performances in the World Cup, Bangladeshi people won't stop watching cricket. They feel disappointed and they want to see their team come back, and they somewhat did it by winning a test match against New Zealand right after the World Cup.

People become crazy once they love a thing too much. Most South Asian countries love cricket. Fans are crazy there. They even try to commit suicide after a failure. Imagine how much they love cricket. I am a cricket fan and I used to watch all the games of Bangladesh. No matter if it's an important game or not. I was a student back then and I had free time. I don't remember how many times I said that I wouldn't watch anymore after a close loss. I still watch games whenever I see there are some important matches. We love cricket and that's why we criticize them as well. BCB is corrupted as hell. Nobody knows what are they doing and what is their role on the board. Most of the board members talk nonsense and act like nonsense.

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December 19, 2023, 11:53:56 AM
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Soth Africa vs India

So friends today is the 2nd ODI between South Africa and India. We all know that how the Indian team performance in the last match.

Arshdeep and Avesh Khan were really good in that match. I was looking that South Africa was not good overall in T20I series or in ODI series. In third T20I they made only 95 runs all team out and in the First ODI they made only 116 runs and all team out.
By the way I think South Africa will make a comeback today. Or maybe can give a surprise to everyone. But Indian team is really strong so we can't say anything at this time so let's see. Smiley


The second ODI match between India and South Africa has been started and in just 5 overs, the Indian team lost their one wicket so if they play like this then after some time, we will hear that the Indian team is all out on 100, but after this one wicket, Indian batsmen have been charged, and at this time, they try to be a huge run rate but South African bowler can't stable him to increase the run rate but I think that they will increase the run rate after consolidation.

Indian team can give a huge target. They have the tendency provided they make some good partnerships.
By the way, it was South Africa decision to make India bat first as they had won the toss.

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December 19, 2023, 12:04:43 PM
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Soth Africa vs India

So friends today is the 2nd ODI between South Africa and India. We all know that how the Indian team performance in the last match.

Arshdeep and Avesh Khan were really good in that match. I was looking that South Africa was not good overall in T20I series or in ODI series. In third T20I they made only 95 runs all team out and in the First ODI they made only 116 runs and all team out.
By the way I think South Africa will make a comeback today. Or maybe can give a surprise to everyone. But Indian team is really strong so we can't say anything at this time so let's see. Smiley


The second ODI match between India and South Africa has been started and in just 5 overs, the Indian team lost their one wicket so if they play like this then after some time, we will hear that the Indian team is all out on 100, but after this one wicket, Indian batsmen have been charged, and at this time, they try to be a huge run rate but South African bowler can't stable him to increase the run rate but I think that they will increase the run rate after consolidation.

Indian team can give a huge target. They have the tendency provided they make some good partnerships.
By the way, it was South Africa decision to make India bat first as they had won the toss.
We have slow start from the Indian batting on this testing pitch as South African bowlers keeping them silent which is good start for them now we are in 13th over with 2 wickets gone and just 49 runs on board we have too many dot balls from the Indian side which is unusual for me because I was expecting some good aggressive batting from them but in 13 overs we have nearly 56 dot balls and just 6 boundaries which is not ideal start for them Burger doing good job for the South Africa, and he take two early wickets.

K Rahul with Sai Sudharsan on crease now we need good foundation for the better target and these two needs to stay at the crease for the nearly 20 to 25 overs otherwise things can go into wrong end for them in this match.

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December 19, 2023, 12:12:02 PM
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They think India done with us in the previous match and now they have chosen to field first. They will see the batting of India team first.
But South Africa just surprising me and they have collected first wicket on the second ball of the match. Ruturaj Gaikwad  made only 4 runs. Now Tilak Varma and Sai Sudharsan are facing the South African team. And they are playing wisely. And not trying to give them wicket. I hope that India will perform in this match too. But there are the chances that South Africa can make a comeback.
Both teams are having services of too many youngsters which are going to start their career and things are looking very interesting in first game we have good success for the Indian pacers and now South African bowlers are also having good start after six overs we have only 22 runs on board with the lost of one wicket Ruturaj Gaikwad which lost his wicket on second ball of the game look like pitch will be support bowlers and this is going to be another nail-biting match between these two teams after first ODI win by India they will be play freely and South Africa is having pressure to fight back in the series.

Lizaad Williams who is playing his third match of the career and having 2 wickets in first ODI having another good start of the inning after three overs 12 runs and 13 dot balls from his these three overs looks good start.
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December 19, 2023, 12:12:10 PM
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South Africa vs India in today's second ODI series, India batting in the first innings. South Africa may have decided to bowl well against India today and they are already bowling well. Team India has already lost two wickets and they are not doing very well at present. Today's match is more exciting as per the way the ODI played in the first match. If South Africa can perform well today's match will surely win. India team has collected 54 runs in 15 overs now with the loss of two wickets, so if the South African team can bowl well today, it will be possible to put India under pressure.

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December 19, 2023, 12:16:44 PM
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South Africa  vs  India

South Africa won the toss and decided to field today against India.
Hahaha!
They think India done with us in the previous match and now they have chosen to field first. They will see the batting of India team first.
But South Africa just surprising me and they have collected first wicket on the second ball of the match. Ruturaj Gaikwad  made only 4 runs. Now Tilak Varma and Sai Sudharsan are facing the South African team. And they are playing wisely. And not trying to give them wicket. I hope that India will perform in this match too. But there are the chances that South Africa can make a comeback.
In the second ODI against South Africa vs India, South Africa won the toss and elected to field first. South Africa opted to bowl first. India's opener Ruturaj Gaikwad got out after just two balls. India's current score is 55 for two in 15 overs. India's current playing situation seems if their next batsmen can run in a good partnership then maybe India can score some good runs. With the Indian batsmen playing well, we can definitely expect them to score some good runs and target South Africa. Let's see how many runs India can give to South Africa.
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December 19, 2023, 12:40:34 PM
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South Africa  vs  India

South Africa won the toss and decided to field today against India. In the first match we saw that the South African team faced a batting disaster by batting earlier. The team lost all wickets for just 116 runs. Indian team reached the target of victory very easily. And so the decision to take the fielding in today's match seems right to me.

Raturaj Gaikwad opened the innings with a boundary on the first ball. But Gaikwad got out on the second ball and returned to the dressing room. Openers should bat responsibly. One should not bat aggressively in the opening overs in the ODI format.
In today match, South Africa won the toss and first decided bowling. India batsman makes 23 run in 6 over and 1 out. India batsman could not worked hard and struggle. India batsman makes 46 run in 10 over and 1 outs. The Indian batsmen could not face the South African bowlers and scored so many runs. South Africa bowler out the India batsmen in the first ball of the 12 over. This is the second achievement for south Africa team. Indian batsmen could not add runs and did not set a tough target for South Africa.If they still work hard and struggle, they can give a difficult target.  Now let's see how hard it targets. India batsman makes 49 run in 12 over and 2 outs.India batsman makes 54 run in 15 over and 2 outs. The way the Indian batsmen are playing, I fully expect them to lose the match today.

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December 19, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
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Again Sai Sudarshan proved himself as a batter that BCCI needs for its ODI team. Back to back 50 from the debutant, whereas Tilak Verma wasted 30 balls to get his double figures. Rituraj Gaikwad another batter who has been inconsistent in ODI and in T20 format. I feel his career won't last long in a competitive cricket market like India. KL Rahul looking good for now as he gained his form, when he was playing in the World Cup. 22 overs are gone and India is struggling to get those runs needed to defend it's target.
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