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November 18, 2023, 01:17:02 PM
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Mitchell Marsh made an insane prediction stating that Australia will score 450-2 while India will fold for 65 runs when the reality is that the chances of the opposite happening are higher.

It's a clever way to irritate the Indian crowd for sure. He needs to focus on being more consistent rather than making these outlandish statements.
Such scornful comments by Mitchell Marst must be taken as a challenge to India. Saying that Australia will bowl India out for 65 runs at home is only meant to demoralize the Australian Indian players. It can be called a trick of Mitchell Marsh. But the Indian team will surely take this trick as a challenge.
I think this is a trick of Mitchell Marsh. After this statement, the Indian team will definitely want to win and score high. So Indian batsmen will want to bat aggressively against Australian bowlers. And maybe that's what Mitchell Marsh wants. Australian bowlers are experienced. Batting aggressively against them will not be easy to stay at the crease. I consider this to be Mitchell Marsh's strategy. He wants to excite the Indian players.

Both India and Australia are very experienced and strong teams. Considering the home match, India is said to be the favorite in this match. But even then there is no chance to neglect the Australian team. Australia's players are fully capable of defeating India in the final.
In Ahmedabad, all the teams who won the toss and batted first were all out before 50 overs. In this case, no team could score 300 runs after winning the toss and batting. In that case, how well Australia will play will be understood only in tomorrow's match. But whether it will be possible for Australia to get all out for 65 runs is a matter of time. However, if the spinners have the advantage on the Ahmedabad pitch, how many runs the Indian spinners will be able to restrict Australia to within tomorrow will be understood only when the game starts.

Australia to bowl out this Indian squad for 65 runs, I'd say it's ridiculous. This Indian team has the strongest batting order of this World Cup. Every batsman in the squad is in great form. India's top order is batting brilliantly in every match. I don't think it is possible to stop such a team within 65 runs. I would say if the Australian bowlers can break India's opening pair before 65 then they are lucky. However, the match will certainly be competitive. If Australia can somehow score 400 runs, then I would say Indian batsmen have the ability to score 400 too.
Undoubtedly, it made a violent comment, although it is not very acceptable in cricketing circles, but many cricketers will find it insulting. India will be all out for 65 runs, it is also impossible for now, but either of the two Indian openers will score above 65 runs. If Rohit Sharma plays well, they will score 65 before six overs. Australia to collect 450/2 is a rebuke and a ridiculous argument for India.

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November 18, 2023, 01:17:14 PM
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No need to jinx it tho lol, pata chale ki b***n chod sab phush ho jaye Sunday ko. Bada wala KLPD ho jayega.  Grin

One generation already lived through 2003 heartbreak so don't want to see another generation to witness the same experience or maybe some might call it a mental trauma.

Well.. let's see. This is an ideal opportunity to win an ICC trophy, and so far they have won all the 10 matches in this tournament so far. And this time, the captain is leading from the front by going Bazball style from the first ball onwards. Another thing that I have noticed is that Rohit is winning toss very often, unlike the case with panauti Kohli. Anyway, all that said you can't simply underestimate the Aussies. If anyone stands between the World Cup and Indian team, it is the Australians. But it will be a big disappointment for India if they lose the finals after reaching so far.
So far Rohit has won 5 and lost 5 tosses so we can avoid the discussion of him being lucky but Kohli was surely pananuti as far as the toss goes.

Both teams are champions and deserve to be a finalist and both sides will give it all but I am still not sure if I want a close fight with the Australian side lol. These guys know how to win an ICC tournament so I'd very much prefer a boring one-sided match in favour of India. Call me names or whatever but I don't want to risk anything at all.  Grin

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November 18, 2023, 01:30:28 PM
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If anyone stands between the World Cup and Indian team, it is the Australians. But it will be a big disappointment for India if they lose the finals after reaching so far.

Really, it will be a disappointment for the Indians if they fail to beat Australia as they were too close to be the winner. They won all the 10 matches till now and they deserve the Cup. So why not cancel the final and award the cup to the Indians  Huh

I mean will it not be a disappointment for the Aussies too to reach in the finals and stil not make it  Huh

Common, Let's hope ICC comes up with a Level playing field tomorrow.

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November 18, 2023, 01:32:15 PM
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Both teams are champions and deserve to be a finalist and both sides will give it all but I am still not sure if I want a close fight with the Australian side lol. These guys know how to win an ICC tournament so I'd very much prefer a boring one-sided match in favour of India. Call me names or whatever but I don't want to risk anything at all.  Grin
I don't see the final being a tight contest primarily because the current Australian team have proven time and again that they can collapse like dominoes under intense pressure due to which they almost messed up against South Africa.

On the other hand, India has the perfect bowling lineup which is capable of rescuing them even if their batsmen collapse which itself is extremely doubtful.

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November 18, 2023, 01:35:31 PM
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India can do very well in the game of cricket because they understand very well how to play any team with any strategy.  South Africa did very well in this year's Cricket World Cup alongside India.  But now it appears that Australia have mastered the strategy of playing and defeating their opponents. to which Australia is seen playing very well now and it is expected that Australia will go far behind South Africa and complete with India.The most important thing to win matches is to understand the quality of play of the opposition team and fight them strategically.  And the team that can do it wins

What Australia has done and what the other teams have failed to do is that they have adjusted to the conditions and carefully studied their opponents as the tournament progressed. Winning matches in India is not going to be easy, especially if Indian team is at the other end. Anyway, only a few hours remain for the final match and we will get to know who will lift the trophy by this time tomorrow. The ICC and media rights holders have every reason to be happy. They wanted India to be in the finals, and they got it.

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November 18, 2023, 02:06:16 PM
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Ahead of tomorrow's final match of the World Cup, the captains of the two teams expressed different comments at the press conference.  The captains of the two teams did not speak to each other in the face-to-face fight. 
At the press conference, Australian captain Pat Cummins said,
"I know there will be supporters for one team in the final match and there is nothing more joyous than silencing those supporters." 
On the other hand, Rohit Sharma commented that "In this tournament we want to win the World Cup final from undefeated and undefeated". 
It is clear from the comments of the captains of the two teams that they are ready to fight against each other. The captains of the two teams have been fighting in the press conference, now only waiting to see the fight on the field.

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November 18, 2023, 02:17:55 PM
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....., it never can tell a lie. South Africa did very poor fielding, they should listen that drop catches are equal to drop matches, if they don’t improve their fielding so can't they win any tournament and this is most teams natural thing that we focus on good batting and bowling attack and they always ignore good fielding and in the match batting, bowling are important but we lose matches because of fielding.
I would agree here that one of the reasons South Africa lost in the semi-final was their poor fielding. It is also true that their batting line-up also performed poorly. But I think that despite Australia's good batting performance in the beginning, the wickets fell in the end and South Africa's bowlers came back, so South Africa had a chance to win the match as well.  However, due to the dropped catches in their match fielding, Australia got opportunities again and again. So I would say this match reminds us that in the game of cricket there is no guarantee of victory just by doing well in the batting line-up and bowling line-up, fielding also plays an important role.


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November 18, 2023, 02:34:51 PM
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Australia to bowl out this Indian squad for 65 runs, I'd say it's ridiculous. This Indian team has the strongest batting order of this World Cup. Every batsman in the squad is in great form. India's top order is batting brilliantly in every match. I don't think it is possible to stop such a team within 65 runs. I would say if the Australian bowlers can break India's opening pair before 65 then they are lucky. However, the match will certainly be competitive. If Australia can somehow score 400 runs, then I would say Indian batsmen have the ability to score 400 too.
I doubt that the Australian team will be able to score 400 runs against the Indian bowling? India has won all the matches this season. Moreover, they are so confident in their bowling and batting that any team playing against them will be defeated. Even if they get Rohit Sharma or Shubman Gill where Virat Kohli or Shreyas Iyer will stand and they fail then KL Rahul or Suryakumar Yadav will take the responsibility of the team there is no chance to underestimate anyone. The biggest thing is that Narendra Modi Stadium works well for spinners and the average score there is 243. Even if the pitch is slow, India will be ahead.

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Congratulations to the great and mighty Australian cricket team, 5 times World Cup Champions for making finals! I really admire their determination never to admit defeat and play every ball as if they'll win. Who knows, they might become the 6th-time world cup champions this time! But, this time around, Australia will have to face India. Indians are determined to win at any cost, meaning, they won't let go of the trophy easily. It's going to be an exciting ODI World Cup Final.

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November 18, 2023, 02:43:21 PM
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We are waiting for biggest match of the year. Both team are very strong and could score high runs. I think Australia batting is also good like India but bowling is not so great. Starc doesn't picking so many wickets this year. India will be happy with all three bowlers performance. Travis head and warner gas not score for some matches. Will we see historical win for Australia or 11 match Unbeaten India?
Tomorrow ICC Men World Cup final will be played against two strong squads which is India squad who beat all squads in previously and would not lost any single matches from against squad. India squad played total 11 matches include semi final and they got all victories with unbelievable efforts in both inning Batting and bowling. In all these conditions, Indian squad has achieved victory, in low defending targets, defend big targets, and in critical match situations, all batters and bowlers have showed tremendous effort without under a pressure. In previous matches, when main batters or opener batters got out at low scores then next batters played quite well without feel any pressure that's why they got all victories in matches. But we don't underestimate the skills of Australia squad.


Australia wining the semi final match and I think that the main character of Australia’s winning is Travis Head and that’s why he achieved the goal of being a man of the match. ESPN cricinfo’s man of the match also is this and this is a very creditable website, it never can tell a lie. South Africa did very poor fielding, they should listen that drop catches are equal to drop matches, if they don’t improve their fielding so can't they win any tournament and this is most teams natural thing that we focus on good batting and bowling attack and they always ignore good fielding and in the match batting, bowling are important but we lose matches because of fielding.
Tomorrow ICC Men World Cup final will be played against two strong squads which is India squad who beat all squads in previously and would not lost any single matches from against squad. India squad played total 11 matches include semi final and they got all victories with unbelievable efforts in both inning Batting and bowling. In all these conditions, Indian squad has achieved victory, in low defending targets, defend big targets, and in critical match situations, all batters and bowlers have showed tremendous effort without under a pressure. In previous matches, when main batters or opener batters got out at low scores then next batters played quite well without feel any pressure that's why they got all victories in matches. But we don't underestimate the skills of Australia squad.
Yes, from the beginning the Indian team performed very well and won every match brilliantly. Playing at India's home ground, due to which they won against every team with great and huge scores. No team has been able to beat the Indian team so far, they played from start to finish and reached the final match with great points. Moreover, we think this 2023 World Cup will be India's win as it is played in their country, so it could be their World Cup. Because we saw that every team played well but still could not grow against India, rather India batted brilliantly in every match without pressure. As the final match starts tomorrow between two teams Australia and India, we will never consider Australia as a weak team as they are a five time World Cup winning team. But tomorrow's game will be really interesting because both the teams are strong, but I think if Australia batsmen bat amazingly without pressure then definitely there is a chance to win. But we have seen that if the Indian team continues to play in the pressure-free manner they have been playing since the beginning, they will definitely defeat Australia and take the 2023 Champions Trophy.

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November 18, 2023, 03:12:20 PM
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Really, it will be a disappointment for the Indians if they fail to beat Australia as they were too close to be the winner. They won all the 10 matches till now and they deserve the Cup. So why not cancel the final and award the cup to the Indians  Huh

I mean will it not be a disappointment for the Aussies too to reach in the finals and stil not make it  Huh

Common, Let's hope ICC comes up with a Level playing field tomorrow.

I know where you are taking this ? Better appreciate the teams reaching the finals with hard work and stop crying if your team missed on run rates and was unable to connect other bits and pieces from the other team's results.

Tomorrow is the match of India vs Australia and it is not a match it is the Grand finale of this World Cup. Both teams have better records in their previous matches. Australia won their last 8 matches in a row including the semi-final, and India won their last 10 matches in a row. Actually, they played 10 matches so they won 10 matches. Australia's team won against Bangladesh, Pakistan, and England with a good NNR so they have confidence in themselves that they can do it. India's team had also hope because they won against Pakistan, and Afghanistan with a very good run rate. Almost India won with a good run rate against every team.

The point is that it will be a disappointment for the team unable to collect the World Cup trophee tomorrow, but for the other teams who can't qualify for the finals, they disappointment journeys already started.

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November 18, 2023, 04:09:44 PM
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Congratulations to the great and mighty Australian cricket team, 5 times World Cup Champions for making finals! I really admire their determination never to admit defeat and play every ball as if they'll win. Who knows, they might become the 6th-time world cup champions this time! But, this time around, Australia will have to face India. Indians are determined to win at any cost, meaning, they won't let go of the trophy easily. It's going to be an exciting ODI World Cup Final.

You are right when the World Cup started, it didn't look like Australia would even qualify for the World Cup semi-finals. In the beginning, Australia's batting and bowling performance was very poor and it didn't look like this is an Australian team that has won five times,but in the later matches, Australia's batsmen showed the performance to make every match as final.

However, the Indian team now looks very strong and  favorites to win the World Cup. Home ground, home crowd and bowlers and batsmen in full form can all be crucial for India to win. Both the teams will try hard to win the final and whoever has a good day and plays well will take the final.However, instead of a one-sided match, if there is a sensational match, then all the fans will get to see a good match.


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Congratulations to the great and mighty Australian cricket team, 5 times World Cup Champions for making finals! I really admire their determination never to admit defeat and play every ball as if they'll win. Who knows, they might become the 6th-time world cup champions this time! But, this time around, Australia will have to face India. Indians are determined to win at any cost, meaning, they won't let go of the trophy easily. It's going to be an exciting ODI World Cup Final.

You are right when the World Cup started, it didn't look like Australia would even qualify for the World Cup semi-finals. In the beginning, Australia's batting and bowling performance was very poor and it didn't look like this is an Australian team that has won five times,but in the later matches, Australia's batsmen showed the performance to make every match as final.


Even now Australia didn't do as team in all the matches they won, there were some close competition and some individual great performances like Maxwell's 200 but their middle order is pretty weak and not 5 bowlers performed as Indian bowlers that is what the difference in this current AUS team comparing to their past.

But anything can happen in cricket so hopefully India will run through Australia just like that.

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November 18, 2023, 04:24:07 PM
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Really, it will be a disappointment for the Indians if they fail to beat Australia as they were too close to be the winner. They won all the 10 matches till now and they deserve the Cup. So why not cancel the final and award the cup to the Indians  Huh

I mean will it not be a disappointment for the Aussies too to reach in the finals and stil not make it  Huh

Common, Let's hope ICC comes up with a Level playing field tomorrow.

I know where you are taking this ? Better appreciate the teams reaching the finals with hard work and stop crying if your team missed on run rates and was unable to connect other bits and pieces from the other team's results.

@noormcs5 you didn't read carefully the @umeridrees reply. He want to tell that disappointment is not just for Indian team. any team lost in this final will be disappointed because both team works hard in this race to reach this stage. He appreciated many times better teams here and also in the local boards. Cricket is not the game where only one team will win also. England who win previous WC show very poor performance in this WOrld cup. South Africa looking in great form out from tournament.

 No one is crying here. Cricket is just for entertainment. Everyone wish that his country team reach to final but its not possible and the best two team will play final. Australia record in the World Cup final is good but this time condition is change and 70% chances that India will win tomorrow.


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November 18, 2023, 04:58:33 PM
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Mitchell Marsh made an insane prediction stating that Australia will score 450-2 while India will fold for 65 runs when the reality is that the chances of the opposite happening are higher.
I think we should ignore his statement because he also predict from start of the tournament that final will be against Australia and paksitan but he was a bit right but not completely, but I believe that it will be a strong fight between them because indian bowler is playing at next level but but but India has alot chance to choke in big stage as they mostly did but if they delivered something new this time then they will be much more dangerous than current look while according to stats  Australia are much more better side in final and semifinals so it's really tough to predict any team from now but will be predict on day performances. Because it will decide the winner

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November 18, 2023, 05:08:36 PM
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I think we should ignore his statement because he also predict from start of the tournament that final will be against Australia and paksitan but he was a bit right but not completely, but I believe that it will be a strong fight between them because indian bowler is playing at next level but but but India has alot chance to choke in big stage as they mostly did but if they delivered something new this time then they will be much more dangerous than current look while according to stats  Australia are much more better side in final and semifinals so it's really tough to predict any team from now but will be predict on day performances. Because it will decide the winner

Tomorrow is a big day for both India and Australia. The way India has played so far, it seems difficult that Australia will be able to beat them in the final. It may be possible that India choke tomorrow as there are many examples from past where an underdog won the title. My wish was that someone who hasn't won ODI WC till date should win this one but both SA and NZ are out in semis.

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November 18, 2023, 06:01:12 PM
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but India has alot chance to choke in big stage as they mostly did but if they delivered something new this time then they will be much more dangerous than current look while according to stats  Australia are much more better side in final and semifinals so it's really tough to predict any team from now but will be predict on day performances.
It may be possible that India choke tomorrow as there are many examples from past where an underdog won the title.
Have you guys ever heard of the saying that the present is more important than the past or future? The present matters the most and India is the stronger team by miles currently which is why they are the favorites.

Australia could surprise everyone by winning, but the chances of that happening are far lower which is why they are the underdogs. Let's see what happens!

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November 18, 2023, 06:16:39 PM
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Australia to bowl out this Indian squad for 65 runs, I'd say it's ridiculous. This Indian team has the strongest batting order of this World Cup. Every batsman in the squad is in great form. India's top order is batting brilliantly in every match. I don't think it is possible to stop such a team within 65 runs. I would say if the Australian bowlers can break India's opening pair before 65 then they are lucky. However, the match will certainly be competitive. If Australia can somehow score 400 runs, then I would say Indian batsmen have the ability to score 400 too.
I doubt that the Australian team will be able to score 400 runs against the Indian bowling? India has won all the matches this season. Moreover, they are so confident in their bowling and batting that any team playing against them will be defeated. Even if they get Rohit Sharma or Shubman Gill where Virat Kohli or Shreyas Iyer will stand and they fail then KL Rahul or Suryakumar Yadav will take the responsibility of the team there is no chance to underestimate anyone. The biggest thing is that Narendra Modi Stadium works well for spinners and the average score there is 243. Even if the pitch is slow, India will be ahead.

You are right. I also think it is almost impossible to collect 400 runs on this pitch of Ahmedabad against this bowling attack of India. Firstly the pitch of Narendra Modi Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is only 237 runs and the average score of the second innings is 208. Secondly, Indian bowlers are in great form. Shami and Siraj can destroy any team's batting order. Also the pitch of Narendra Modi Stadium is spin friendly. Kuldeep and Jadeja bowled excellent spin. I don't think Australian players can play big innings against such experienced bowlers. I wouldn't even be surprised at all if we see an Australian batting disaster in the final.

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November 18, 2023, 06:32:30 PM
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England who win previous WC show very poor performance in this WOrld cup. South Africa looking in great form out from tournament.

 No one is crying here. Cricket is just for entertainment. Everyone wish that his country team reach to final but its not possible and the best two team will play final. Australia record in the World Cup final is good but this time condition is change and 70% chances that India will win tomorrow.


I am starting to talk about the journey of Sri Lanka in this World Cup too. We saw that their journey just disappointed us, and they also were very disappointed because of their team performances.

They are a great team and ICC suspended their team because they don’t play well., and now maybe we won’t see the Sri Lanka team in any ICC events.

Their performances were damaged when Malinga, Kumar Sangakkara, and other big people retired from cricket and there were no replacements of these players were ready. Anyway, they did very poor performances in this World Cup. I think the Sri Lankan old team can’t become again, and it is the true story of the Sri Lanka cricket team.
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November 18, 2023, 07:01:11 PM
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You are right. I also think it is almost impossible to collect 400 runs on this pitch of Ahmedabad against this bowling attack of India. Firstly the pitch of Narendra Modi Stadium is not batting friendly. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is only 237 runs and the average score of the second innings is 208. Secondly, Indian bowlers are in great form. Shami and Siraj can destroy any team's batting order. Also the pitch of Narendra Modi Stadium is spin friendly. Kuldeep and Jadeja bowled excellent spin. I don't think Australian players can play big innings against such experienced bowlers. I wouldn't even be surprised at all if we see an Australian batting disaster in the final.

The current bowling was good one of India from the begining,the Shami was changing the team match crucial to favour to India.In the last match the team was trouble at the middle with the New Zealand batsman Mitchell had scored his century with single hand.The captain Rohit had used the Shami as the key to take crucial wickets one after the another.So the dream of finals to the New Zealand team was end with the continuous fall of wickets.Now the Final match was going to be held one Narendra Modi Stadium and scoring the run was not easy one in this big stadium.So the chasing will be hard in this stadium.Since the match was final,any team can chase any runs with the vibes to the final match.So if the team India had scored the huge run like 350+ runs only help to win the final match.
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