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That's what the family wants, they seeking for justice, as this incedent happens during their training, same with every fans and readers who heard the news not sure what's the relevance as there are so many ways that you can perform your practice inside the court to improve your stamina if it's the reason why they are doing it but someone should carry the blame and this kind of training should be reassess and analyze, not sure it's legit but there are other past players from ateneo who shares their sentiments regarding to this kind of training.
Whoever is the trainer of that program, I guess they're trying to do the same what they do in the NBA. I've seen that there's some water endurance training but they were done on the swimming pools and not with the sea waters. Because the current and waves of the sea in Aurora is said to be uncontrollable and unpredictable. Even the locals know how strong the waves are there and that's why they need some guide if ever they do. Let's say that there are some life guards but they won't be able to get them when the waves are too strong and could literally kill a human life while in it. The whole basketball fandom is asking for a thorough investigation through it and some are saying that it could be like a frat initiation.
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Russlenat
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I think it is already expected that the line will move since it happened many times in the series already. I think in 2 of the last 3 games there was a decent line movement. We have to be observant with that because it gives us some hint where to place our money.
Speaking of line movement, there is none being witnessed yet. The line stays the same and even the total has nothing strange with it. Seems like it is hard to limit the scoring of both teams since they are not afraid to shoot from outside, so I would not be surprised if this goes over 200 again. The line now is currently 196.5. For Ginebra ML at 2.05, not bad for early takers.
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Time to bet early now. For Game 4 tomorrow, the line is already up.
Ginebra opened at +2.5. This is very tempting to be honest, and it is possible that TNT will win again to even the series. But I would not decide too early here. I think this could be good for arbitrage since TNT is only -2.5 now and maybe it will increase to -5.5 tomorrow.
What do you think, is it a good idea or a dumb one guys?
The line still remain the same, no significant movement yet but i think this will remain the same until the game begins. Like i said before that this series is a see-saw so for now TNT is the favorite to win tonight and i will still bet for them, no analysis. Today is a Wednesday and most PBA fans are working so the arena attendance in my opinion will not reach 18k. 
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June 10, 2026, 06:53:54 AM |
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Time to bet early now. For Game 4 tomorrow, the line is already up.
Ginebra opened at +2.5. This is very tempting to be honest, and it is possible that TNT will win again to even the series. But I would not decide too early here. I think this could be good for arbitrage since TNT is only -2.5 now and maybe it will increase to -5.5 tomorrow.
What do you think, is it a good idea or a dumb one guys?
The line still remain the same, no significant movement yet but i think this will remain the same until the game begins. Like i said before that this series is a see-saw so for now TNT is the favorite to win tonight and i will still bet for them, no analysis. Today is a Wednesday and most PBA fans are working so the arena attendance in my opinion will not reach 18k.  Yes that's always the case, but it's Ginebra so there's a chance that Ginebra fans will do something just to watch the game to support their team. They're like the Knicks here in our country where they're considered as die-hard fans and will do everything just to support their team. Anyway, am I the only one who things that this will be a see-saw battle where the winner of Game 4 is already been set? I mean if you've been watching PBA playoff games for quite some time, you will have this kind of feeling as well. On Jackpotter, the odds of TNT winning is already at 1.5 while Ginebra is at 2.08 and that just shows that many already knew that TNT will win... or at least that's what they think because there's some kind of pattern already. For me, a -2.5 for TNT is already a great bet since they're favored to win.
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Time to bet early now. For Game 4 tomorrow, the line is already up.
Ginebra opened at +2.5. This is very tempting to be honest, and it is possible that TNT will win again to even the series. But I would not decide too early here. I think this could be good for arbitrage since TNT is only -2.5 now and maybe it will increase to -5.5 tomorrow.
What do you think, is it a good idea or a dumb one guys?
The line still remain the same, no significant movement yet but i think this will remain the same until the game begins. Like i said before that this series is a see-saw so for now TNT is the favorite to win tonight and i will still bet for them, no analysis. Today is a Wednesday and most PBA fans are working so the arena attendance in my opinion will not reach 18k.  Something that most experienced gamblers loves to watch out, seems that there's a pattern to where the game will proceed, though it's still depends from how players will play and how both coach will execute their game play, as both teams are capable to outrun one another more on how they will comes up during the actual game, looking to see another meme moments from coach Chot hahaha, just kidding, good luck mga kabayan!
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June 10, 2026, 12:59:56 PM |
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Something that most experienced gamblers loves to watch out, seems that there's a pattern to where the game will proceed, though it's still depends from how players will play and how both coach will execute their game play, as both teams are capable to outrun one another more on how they will comes up during the actual game, looking to see another meme moments from coach Chot hahaha, just kidding, good luck mga kabayan!
I have a feeling that TNT will win tonight since their spread has increased up to -4.5. And in this game, there are a lot of awards for Ginebra. They have Justin Brownlee as Best Import, Abarrientos as Best Player of the Conference, and Scottie Thompson becoming part of the 5k points club. So maybe TNT should get the win too so they can also be happy tonight. Although they were down in the 1st quarter, their 3-point shooting in the 2nd quarter was impressive, especially Heading.
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I have a feeling that TNT will win tonight since their spread has increased up to -4.5.
Looks like it will happen, especially if they can stop this big run Ginebra is making now. TNT was already up by 20 points and now Ginebra was able to bring the lead down to just 10 points. Still plenty of time with 5 minutes left in the game, anything can happen. So let us hope TNT will keep their composure and win this game to make sure the series will extend.
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I have a feeling that TNT will win tonight since their spread has increased up to -4.5.
Looks like it will happen, especially if they can stop this big run Ginebra is making now. TNT was already up by 20 points and now Ginebra was able to bring the lead down to just 10 points. Still plenty of time with 5 minutes left in the game, anything can happen. So let us hope TNT will keep their composure and win this game to make sure the series will extend. And they keep that composure and let their supporters win their bets, I was in the impression that Gin kings will pushed but TNT managed to keep it and win the game, congrats to all kabayan who took that risk though from those early takers who understands the movement they got it with more decent odds..
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And they keep that composure and let their supporters win their bets, I was in the impression that Gin kings will pushed but TNT managed to keep it and win the game, congrats to all kabayan who took that risk though from those early takers who understands the movement they got it with more decent odds..
They really want to bring this to Game 7. The script is scripting as they say. Haha. So for Game 5, if we follow the trend, that will be Ginebra right? I guess I would just follow it. Also, the over is quite dominant in the series. I think the last 3 games were all over, so I might put a bet on the over as well. In Game 4, TNT was -4.5, so I am sure the opening line for Game 5 will be Ginebra -5.5.
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In Game 4, TNT was -4.5, so I am sure the opening line for Game 5 will be Ginebra -5.5.
You will never be wrong if you follow the pattern. The line itself is already suspicious because why would a team suddenly have a high spread and still normally win the game, especially if the line movement happened. Just like in Game 4, TNT was -2.5 and then closed at -4.5, and they won and covered the spread. At the moment, there is no need to break that pattern. Ride with it and our chance to win will be high.
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In Game 4, TNT was -4.5, so I am sure the opening line for Game 5 will be Ginebra -5.5.
You will never be wrong if you follow the pattern. The line itself is already suspicious because why would a team suddenly have a high spread and still normally win the game, especially if the line movement happened. Just like in Game 4, TNT was -2.5 and then closed at -4.5, and they won and covered the spread. At the moment, there is no need to break that pattern. Ride with it and our chance to win will be high. Isn't is always like that in PBA basketball? The lines never make sense for me, absolutely never. It always jumps back and forth for no reason. 1 team has the momentum after a convincing win and is the "home team", let's make them the underdog for the next game. I mean how do they come up with this shxt? This league is just so strange.
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Isn't is always like that in PBA basketball? The lines never make sense for me, absolutely never. It always jumps back and forth for no reason. 1 team has the momentum after a convincing win and is the "home team", let's make them the underdog for the next game. I mean how do they come up with this shxt? This league is just so strange.
That is PBA man, they are unique. If we know how to read the lines, winning here is easier. Now another strange line. After the last game where TNT was listed as -4.5, Ginebra now has an opening line of -5.5. So if we follow that line again, it is suggesting that Ginebra might win the game. But if it is TNT, the moneyline odds are sweet at 2.62. I think I am going to take that. 
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But if it is TNT, the moneyline odds are sweet at 2.62. I think I am going to take that.  It is hard to beat a team when the crowd is behind them. Tomorrow is Friday and also a holiday, so people will surely watch this game and many will go to the arena to support Ginebra. Betting against them feels like suicide here. There is a reason why the line is that high. It looks like they expect Ginebra to win by a blowout.
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June 11, 2026, 02:31:13 PM |
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But if it is TNT, the moneyline odds are sweet at 2.62. I think I am going to take that.  It is hard to beat a team when the crowd is behind them. Tomorrow is Friday and also a holiday, so people will surely watch this game and many will go to the arena to support Ginebra. Betting against them feels like suicide here. There is a reason why the line is that high. It looks like they expect Ginebra to win by a blowout. Hard, but it is not impossible. The game tomorrow is very important because whoever wins will be just one win away from winning the championship. So I believe both teams will give their best and this might be the time where the result will be low scoring. I know fans will be all over Ginebra and will blindly bet on them, but looking at the line, it seems like TNT is being underestimated. After that last win, for sure TNT will try to resist and will not allow Ginebra to give them a taste of their own medicine. I think tomorrow the trend will be broken and TNT will win the game.
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tech30338
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June 11, 2026, 03:20:27 PM |
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But if it is TNT, the moneyline odds are sweet at 2.62. I think I am going to take that.  It is hard to beat a team when the crowd is behind them. Tomorrow is Friday and also a holiday, so people will surely watch this game and many will go to the arena to support Ginebra. Betting against them feels like suicide here. There is a reason why the line is that high. It looks like they expect Ginebra to win by a blowout. Hard, but it is not impossible. The game tomorrow is very important because whoever wins will be just one win away from winning the championship. So I believe both teams will give their best and this might be the time where the result will be low scoring. I know fans will be all over Ginebra and will blindly bet on them, but looking at the line, it seems like TNT is being underestimated. After that last win, for sure TNT will try to resist and will not allow Ginebra to give them a taste of their own medicine. I think tomorrow the trend will be broken and TNT will win the game. When it comes to import less conference Gin kings are ahead, but when there is an import i think TNT has edge and have more wins against Gin kings, it seems like TNT import is not playing at full strength he is not an ordinary import and we know how they were train, is he holding back in this series? With Castro playing they have better floor general, if Chris will play at full strength , I don't think Brownlee can stop him no disrespect, Optana also not playing well is a big advantage by Ginebra if he will perform every game, i don't think the gins can win the series, because when this players are on they can't be stop.
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June 11, 2026, 05:24:46 PM |
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But if it is TNT, the moneyline odds are sweet at 2.62. I think I am going to take that.  It is hard to beat a team when the crowd is behind them. Tomorrow is Friday and also a holiday, so people will surely watch this game and many will go to the arena to support Ginebra. Betting against them feels like suicide here. There is a reason why the line is that high. It looks like they expect Ginebra to win by a blowout. Though us Filipinos always have that term "bilog ang bola" but like what you've said, Gin kings have that charisma ad since that it's a holiday for sure there are so many fans that will be present and will show their support for the team, it's a wild audience that TNT needs to win against too hahhaah, but kidding aside, though it's tough but knowing TNT they will also do everything to upset their opponents if fate gave them a chan, let see how both teams will execute their plays and which one will win and take the advantage, it's crucial as after winning it's just one more away to grab the title.
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June 11, 2026, 11:46:24 PM |
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But if it is TNT, the moneyline odds are sweet at 2.62. I think I am going to take that.  It is hard to beat a team when the crowd is behind them. Tomorrow is Friday and also a holiday, so people will surely watch this game and many will go to the arena to support Ginebra. Betting against them feels like suicide here. There is a reason why the line is that high. It looks like they expect Ginebra to win by a blowout. Hard, but it is not impossible. The game tomorrow is very important because whoever wins will be just one win away from winning the championship. So I believe both teams will give their best and this might be the time where the result will be low scoring. I agree with that, but we have already seen how the script unfolds in every game and the line is just telling us what is going to happen. They can fool the fans, especially those who are not betting, but not us. Actually, I have been cashing in on the Finals series so far and I am hoping this continues. I know fans will be all over Ginebra and will blindly bet on them, but looking at the line, it seems like TNT is being underestimated. After that last win, for sure TNT will try to resist and will not allow Ginebra to give them a taste of their own medicine. I think tomorrow the trend will be broken and TNT will win the game.
No major line movement, which means Ginebra’s line is very stable. As of this writing, it still stays at -5.5. This looks like a sure thing. 
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Vaculin
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June 12, 2026, 02:51:20 AM |
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No major line movement, which means Ginebra’s line is very stable. As of this writing, it still stays at -5.5. This looks like a sure thing.  Sorry, but I do not believe there is a sure thing in the PBA. It may look like it is rigged, but we never know which side is being favored. Although that line says a lot about the game, it is never guaranteed. Honestly, I believe the Gin Kings are going to win, but I would not be surprised if TNT wins tonight. For me, that would be a good story. TNT gets ahead, Ginebra fans will gather in the next games for full support, and then we will see a Game 7. That would be a massive crowd drawer.
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bisdak40
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June 12, 2026, 03:58:50 AM |
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Sorry, but I do not believe there is a sure thing in the PBA. It may look like it is rigged, but we never know which side is being favored. Although that line says a lot about the game, it is never guaranteed.
Honestly, I believe the Gin Kings are going to win, but I would not be surprised if TNT wins tonight. For me, that would be a good story. TNT gets ahead, Ginebra fans will gather in the next games for full support, and then we will see a Game 7. That would be a massive crowd drawer.
Agree with you bro that there is no such thing as a sure thing or win in the PBA even though that this series looks like rigged but i don't believed on such rumors. It is just pure coincidence that the pattern of this series is see-saw which is why i'm 3-1 betting-wise on this Finals, should have been 4-0 if i didn't deviate from the pattern. For tonight, Ginebra is favored to win game 5 so i'll backing them though the spread is a bit high at 5.5 but i think this is coverable if they would win tonight. My bet: Ginebra -5.5 @1.86, can't post my bet ticket as talkimg is down as of now.
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tech30338
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June 12, 2026, 05:24:43 AM |
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But if it is TNT, the moneyline odds are sweet at 2.62. I think I am going to take that.  It is hard to beat a team when the crowd is behind them. Tomorrow is Friday and also a holiday, so people will surely watch this game and many will go to the arena to support Ginebra. Betting against them feels like suicide here. There is a reason why the line is that high. It looks like they expect Ginebra to win by a blowout. Though us Filipinos always have that term "bilog ang bola" but like what you've said, Gin kings have that charisma ad since that it's a holiday for sure there are so many fans that will be present and will show their support for the team, it's a wild audience that TNT needs to win against too hahhaah, but kidding aside, though it's tough but knowing TNT they will also do everything to upset their opponents if fate gave them a chan, let see how both teams will execute their plays and which one will win and take the advantage, it's crucial as after winning it's just one more away to grab the title. Gin Kings needed to pour a lot of points and bury TNT early, this team is not a normal team, even though they were in the lower standing, they are like SMB and Gin kings, they can win, and when it comes to standings in the Championship, they have a better record in the finals against Gin Kings, at the same time, TNT import is not putting a lot of effort scoring and even doing simple rebound, watch the game 4, how he score, all his points coming in the fourth quarter yet his nonchalant aura, but when he is in SMB he is a monster, i think he is just holding back and if he unleash it in game 5 and 6 its over.
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