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Question: 2024/2025 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 24 (42.9%)
Real Madrid - 29 (51.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 0 (0%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 0 (0%)
Villareal - 1 (1.8%)
Real Sociedad - 2 (3.6%)
Other - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 56

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September 04, 2024, 03:53:45 PM
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Simeone really needs to start to improve the performance of this teams, after a very good window market and very big ammount spend on transfer until now we dont see any super good from the team, Alvarez seems like is not in his best fit and also doesnt fit in the team at all, he has to find a spot in which he feels comfortable and start to give goals and assists to the team.

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September 04, 2024, 03:55:12 PM
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A four-point gap is not a tough task for Ancelotti and the injury problems of several main players will also not be taken seriously because the professional coach always has the right way to overcome all these problems. Maybe Bellingham will be our concern if Bellingham is still absent when competing in the UCL. But the fact is that before Bellingham, Madrid still looked fine and now there is Mbappe who is able to contribute to helping Madrid win the title like last season. On the one hand, the second-string players that Madrid have are still very ready to replace the main players who are currently injured. We don't need to worry, everything will be fine.
Real Madrid are in danger if Mbappe, Vinicius, Valverde, Guler, Bellingham, Modric, Rudiger, Carvajal, Militao, Courtois, and Lunin injured at once, while the reality only few of them are injured, they still have more players to replace them.

This is Real Madrid, not Barcelona. When Real Madrid lost few players, the substitute players can replace their positions. Unlike Barcelona, when one of their best players injured i.e. Yamal or Lewandowski, they already in danger.
Real Madrid's reserve players can still cope with injured players this is nothing to worry about Real Madrid still has a solid squad even if someone is injured.
I know Real Madrid is not in danger, they are currently still quite confident despite being 4 points behind Barcelona this is still too early and in the middle of the road Real Madrid can catch up with the points left behind.
In terms of quality and squad depth, of course Madrid is superior to Barcelona, ​​but that is not the reason for Madrid can to be more relaxed now because in a competitive competition, of course even the slightest difference in points will still be a problem for a team, Madrid has loses several midfield players and their are currently 4 points behind Barcelona, ​​so do you think that injuries to these players are one of the reasons why Madrid is failing to get perfect points at the moment?
I think you are very wrong about this, because in fact Madrid's midfield played quite well in several of these matches, but if you look closely, it was the attack line that was the reason for Madrid failure to get full points in the previous match, If we attention in that match, it was Mbappe and Vinicius are not united in Madrid's front line and they often don't provide passes to each other when one of them is free in front of the opponents goal, so I think, when Ancelotti has succeeded in creating a harmonious relationship between the front line players then we will see their performance improve in the future , but if not, of course they will continue to lose points which will automatically make Barcelona benefit greatly later.

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September 04, 2024, 04:00:00 PM
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Real Madrid are currently not doing well, even though they are unbeaten in the four games they have played, but the storm of injuries that has hit their players c...

My impression, correct me if I'm wrong, is to see very tired players. Mbappe isn't doing anything either, but not because he isn't good: no one doubts his skill.
I don't know what it's due to, I'm not a coach or an athletic trainer: mine is just an impression from watching them play.
Then again, they've always said that they play too much.

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September 04, 2024, 04:35:59 PM
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Bookmakers evaluate current results as fluctuations and deviations from the average, so far nothing serious has happened for them to change their global estimates. Unfortunately, the face-to-face game Real - Barcelona will take place only in the 11th round at the end of October. I think that such a schedule is not in Barcelona's favor. By the way, the next game for Barcelona will be quite difficult - away to Girona. So far, Girona is clearly not the same, but last year they defeated Barcelona twice.

Yeah I agree about Girona. At least in big games they don't look good for now. They lost really hard against Atletico Madrid. But their most recent results were positive with two wins. Let's see whether they will manage to finish in top 4.  Smiley

I also wish El Clasico was much closer than that date.  Sad  Because we have a much stronger Barcelona this season. Hansi Flick has really made a big difference so far. I'm looking forward to watching their performance in bigger games.

I'm glad that they signed Dani Olmo as well by the way. He has started to show his talent right away. He is helping attack organizations a lot. Maybe Nico Williams didn't come but it looks like Olmo will make up for him easily.

Yes, while Barcelona is on fire and Real is looking for its game, it would be more advantageous for Barcelona to play Real as early as possible, but the schedule worked out differently. On the other hand, it will also be good to see Clasico in optimal shape
As for Olmo, he is a monster as a player, but judging by the injury statistics, he is fragile. It is highly doubtful that he will be able to go through the entire season without visiting the infirmary, so Flick must be ready to play without him right away.

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September 04, 2024, 04:38:07 PM
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Let's take a look. Indeed, currently the Madrid squad has many star players. But comparing it with PSG is a big mistake. The champion mentality plays a big role. I think Ancelotti is currently regenerating, is it different from Ronaldo's time at Madrid? I think the same, at that time there are many star players there. Ancelotti has also thought ahead, he keep a few senior players to playing. I think this is one of the goals to become a role model for the young players that Ancelotti bought. I'm a little optimistic about Madrid in the League and UCL. Although in the Liga Madrid made a few mistakes and lost a few points.
And the star he has made himself is because of his good performance and speed.  If he didn't master it, he wouldn't be a star.  And the reason is that you also know how they are made.  Yes you are right that will prove to be a huge mistake.  It is difficult to say because Ronaldo is considered to be a very good player and he is not known for his speed.  And cannot speak of its time.  If that star is not able to work hard and the same star will not be called star in the match and if he continues to play with good performance then he can get a chance to become a star.  Yes mistakes happen but they have made mistakes in good numbers which makes them look a little weak today.If they make themselves as before, they will now be in the same position in which they used to perform.











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September 04, 2024, 04:39:26 PM
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Girona is still in stable condition but only in the first match they suffered a defeat and one draw and two wins, of course it is natural to talk about this one club because in the last two seasons Girona has always given a breakthrough to big clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​Girona was able to match the top standings and that is not easy for a new challenger club like Girona, I hope that Girona is able to win its first title in La Liga of course it will surprise everyone.
As a new contender, Girona can surprise again this season, as they showed last season and no doubt they are a serious obstacle for strong clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, ​​and ATM. But when it comes to trophies, I doubt Girona can win them this season. The competition is too tight, they are not strong enough to lift the trophy. And if it happens, it will be luck
I is still too early to think that Girona have become a top team even though we can agree that they have seen rapid improvements and progress in recent times. They are just in the level of Aston Villa in EPL, not able to win the league but always around the European competition vicinity.  If they continue in their present trajectory of continuous improvement, give them few years from today, they might get it right. This will bring so much competition and fun to the La Liga.

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September 04, 2024, 04:44:16 PM
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Yeah I agree about Girona. At least in big games they don't look good for now. They lost really hard against Atletico Madrid. But their most recent results were positive with two wins. Let's see whether they will manage to finish in top 4.  Smiley
Girona is still in stable condition but only in the first match they suffered a defeat and one draw and two wins, of course it is natural to talk about this one club because in the last two seasons Girona has always given a breakthrough to big clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona, ​​Girona was able to match the top standings and that is not easy for a new challenger club like Girona, I hope that Girona is able to win its first title in La Liga of course it will surprise everyone.
As a new contender, Girona can surprise again this season, as they showed last season and no doubt they are a serious obstacle for strong clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, ​​and ATM. But when it comes to trophies, I doubt Girona can win them this season. The competition is too tight, they are not strong enough to lift the trophy. And if it happens, it will be luck

We saw Girona perform well in La Liga last season and clash with the top teams. However, although Girona did not do very well in the beginning this season, the position they are currently in can certainly be a barrier for Real Madrid and Barcelona. Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid currently have a good rivalry this season, with the way Girona are progressing it will certainly be challenging for each team. Of course, Girona could change their style of play to win the trophy and they could be strong towards the end of the season, although there are doubts whether they can go or not. But of course Girona will be competing with strong teams towards the end of the season and will be a challenge for the title.

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Since he was first brought in from Manchester City and has played 4 matches but Julian Alvarez has yet to score his debut goal with Atletico, could he fail here? surely many of us are questioning his performance under Diego Simeone and unlike being trained by Pep Guardiola he can always score goals even though he comes off the bench.

Maybe Julian Alvarez is still adapting to the new league and unlike before he should have no trouble at all. Like Mbappe there will definitely be a time for Julian Alvarez to score his first goal and I hope he can give great expectations to the fans considering Morata left so he is Atletico's hope at this time.
I speculate Alvarez will follow Antony and Mudryk's path where they play really well in their old teams, but completely flop in new teams. Alvarez has contribute nothing even though he already given a chance.

Mbappe didn't need any adaption, he can make a score in his first debut.

If Alvarez not want to end up being memes, he need to score as much as he can or he would get bullied as luckiest mediocre player.

Julian Alvarez, I think he has made a successful career move at Manchester City. If Atletico Madrid is paying him this much transfer fee, I think they have thought it through thoroughly. I think Alvarez must have been the best option for them, so they brought him to the team. I think we should give him some time. We shouldn't make a premature decision, let's watch him a little longer.

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September 04, 2024, 04:55:14 PM
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I is still too early to think that Girona have become a top team even though we can agree that they have seen rapid improvements and progress in recent times. They are just in the level of Aston Villa in EPL, not able to win the league but always around the European competition vicinity.  If they continue in their present trajectory of continuous improvement, give them few years from today, they might get it right. This will bring so much competition and fun to the La Liga.
In La Liga, Girona has shown extraordinary performance. You can see Girona's struggle when the 2018/2019 season finally made them relegated from La Liga. It took a long time until the 2022/2023 season until they were finally promoted back to La Liga and managed to compete and finish in the top 10 of the standings. And last season they finished in 3rd place in the La Liga standings. I think that's extraordinary progress from Girona. In La Liga, Girona is a team that will be highly regarded. And in European competition, I think it's only a matter of time if Girona can keep this going consistently. We know that some big clubs are also experiencing ups and downs. hopefully, Girona can achieve something big. The competition is tight and it won't be easy.

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Since he was first brought in from Manchester City and has played 4 matches but Julian Alvarez has yet to score his debut goal with Atletico, could he fail here? surely many of us are questioning his performance under Diego Simeone and unlike being trained by Pep Guardiola he can always score goals even though he comes off the bench.

Maybe Julian Alvarez is still adapting to the new league and unlike before he should have no trouble at all. Like Mbappe there will definitely be a time for Julian Alvarez to score his first goal and I hope he can give great expectations to the fans considering Morata left so he is Atletico's hope at this time.

I don't understand Simeone about why he even started with Alvarez instead of Sørloth against Athletic Bilbao.  Huh  He was performing way better you know. If you have a better performer then you should give them more chances. Alvarez has played horrible since he signed for Atletico Madrid. It seems like he has some serious adaptation problems.

It is so early in the season maybe but if Alvarez keeps playing like this his end wouldn't be much different than Felix. I believe Sørloth should be given a chance in the starting lineup for now together with Griezmann in the attacking line. They would be a more effective duo.  Wink

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September 04, 2024, 05:06:56 PM
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Since he was first brought in from Manchester City and has played 4 matches but Julian Alvarez has yet to score his debut goal with Atletico, could he fail here? surely many of us are questioning his performance under Diego Simeone and unlike being trained by Pep Guardiola he can always score goals even though he comes off the bench.

Maybe Julian Alvarez is still adapting to the new league and unlike before he should have no trouble at all. Like Mbappe there will definitely be a time for Julian Alvarez to score his first goal and I hope he can give great expectations to the fans considering Morata left so he is Atletico's hope at this time.

I don't understand Simeone about why he even started with Alvarez instead of Sørloth against Athletic Bilbao.  Huh  He was performing way better you know. If you have a better performer then you should give them more chances. Alvarez has played horrible since he signed for Atletico Madrid. It seems like he has some serious adaptation problems.

It is so early in the season maybe but if Alvarez keeps playing like this his end wouldn't be much different than Felix. I believe Sørloth should be given a chance in the starting lineup for now together with Griezmann in the attacking line. They would be a more effective duo.  Wink
Yes, I agree with you, I think it should be like this. Julian Alvarez may be a very high-quality player, but he is not in a position to play in the first 11 right now. Because he has not adapted to the league yet and Atletico Madrid is lacking this in the offensive line. I think they will get more efficiency if Alexander Sorloth, who contributed a lot of goals last year, is used instead of him. At least he is a player who knows the league well.

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September 04, 2024, 05:09:21 PM
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My impression, correct me if I'm wrong, is to see very tired players. Mbappe isn't doing anything either, but not because he isn't good: no one doubts his skill.
I don't know what it's due to, I'm not a coach or an athletic trainer: mine is just an impression from watching them play.
Then again, they've always said that they play too much.

I don't know, it could be related to a gradual return to form, Real Madrid had a lot of players who played for their national teams at the Euro, so they returned to training later, this could also affect the team. In addition, I noticed that Ancelotti pays a lot of attention to the team reaching optimal conditions closer to the end of the season, because it is almost impossible to spend the entire season at the peak of form, and in this case, it is logical that the beginning of the season for the team may seem difficult. But they are most likely not tired, they are simply gaining form, and this may take some time.

 
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September 04, 2024, 05:10:02 PM
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Maybe Julian Alvarez is still adapting to the new league and unlike before he should have no trouble at all. Like Mbappe there will definitely be a time for Julian Alvarez to score his first goal and I hope he can give great expectations to the fans considering Morata left so he is Atletico's hope at this time.
I speculate Alvarez will follow Antony and Mudryk's path where they play really well in their old teams, but completely flop in new teams. Alvarez has contribute nothing even though he already given a chance.

Mbappe didn't need any adaption, he can make a score in his first debut.

If Alvarez not want to end up being memes, he need to score as much as he can or he would get bullied as luckiest mediocre player.

There are times when Julian Alvarez shows his best performance and scores goals, but it all depends on the coach and in this case Simeone does not only focus on Julian Alvarez so that as a new player he must continue to show positive development. Simeone is a coach with a firm character and does not hesitate to make bitter decisions against players. Like Joao Felix who was kicked because he could not follow his instructions. This also applies to Julian Alvarez because Atletico Madrid expectations for his presence are quite high.

Imao Mbappe cannot be compared to Julian Alvarez, there is a slight difference between the two but because they are now in the same competition, he has no other choice but to be required to compete.

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I don't understand Simeone about why he even started with Alvarez instead of Sørloth against Athletic Bilbao.  Huh  He was performing way better you know. If you have a better performer then you should give them more chances. Alvarez has played horrible since he signed for Atletico Madrid. It seems like he has some serious adaptation problems.

It is so early in the season maybe but if Alvarez keeps playing like this his end wouldn't be much different than Felix. I believe Sørloth should be given a chance in the starting lineup for now together with Griezmann in the attacking line. They would be a more effective duo.  Wink

Julian Alvarez I know from Manchester City is the kind of player that ought to start in any match irrespective of the team he’s playing for. He’s a top striker in the Premier League even though he was starting as a substitute for the premier league side then. He may be battling with adaptation problem for now, but I know with time he’ll get himself positioned well in the team and hopefully he can as well be a top starter and dependent striker that whenever he’s playing, they should expect goals from him. The leakage hasn’t gone that far, but so far they need to do more and try more to be in the top of the league fight, so that they can be a potential contender for the La Liga title alongside Real Madrid and Barcelona.

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September 04, 2024, 05:28:25 PM
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Since he was first brought in from Manchester City and has played 4 matches but Julian Alvarez has yet to score his debut goal with Atletico, could he fail here? surely many of us are questioning his performance under Diego Simeone and unlike being trained by Pep Guardiola he can always score goals even though he comes off the bench.

Maybe Julian Alvarez is still adapting to the new league and unlike before he should have no trouble at all. Like Mbappe there will definitely be a time for Julian Alvarez to score his first goal and I hope he can give great expectations to the fans considering Morata left so he is Atletico's hope at this time.
I speculate Alvarez will follow Antony and Mudryk's path where they play really well in their old teams, but completely flop in new teams. Alvarez has contribute nothing even though he already given a chance.

Mbappe didn't need any adaption, he can make a score in his first debut.

If Alvarez not want to end up being memes, he need to score as much as he can or he would get bullied as luckiest mediocre player.

Failure should be the main key to learn harder and never give up when you fail. Failure is also one of the important experiences to achieve success. Moreover, he is still 24 years old so I think he still has a long chance to succeed in achieving his target. It is not good to attack the mentality of Julián Alvarez because it will only make him more fragile.

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I is still too early to think that Girona have become a top team even though we can agree that they have seen rapid improvements and progress in recent times. They are just in the level of Aston Villa in EPL, not able to win the league but always around the European competition vicinity.  If they continue in their present trajectory of continuous improvement, give them few years from today, they might get it right. This will bring so much competition and fun to the La Liga.
In La Liga, Girona has shown extraordinary performance. You can see Girona's struggle when the 2018/2019 season finally made them relegated from La Liga. It took a long time until the 2022/2023 season until they were finally promoted back to La Liga and managed to compete and finish in the top 10 of the standings. And last season they finished in 3rd place in the La Liga standings. I think that's extraordinary progress from Girona. In La Liga, Girona is a team that will be highly regarded. And in European competition, I think it's only a matter of time if Girona can keep this going consistently. We know that some big clubs are also experiencing ups and downs. hopefully, Girona can achieve something big. The competition is tight and it won't be easy.

We were all surprised by Girona's performance last season. This team has played well all season. Girona usually struggle to avoid the relegation zone, and we see this team at the bottom of the table. Qualifying for La Liga was challenging for this team. But last season this team was at the top of the table. And at the end of the season we saw the Girona team in third place in the table. This was a surprising result.

However, I am not sure if the Girona team can continue this streak. And I would say that Girona are unlikely to perform as well as last season. Because two of the best players in the squad, Artem Dovbyk and Garcia, have been sold by Girona management this season. Artem Dovbyk scored 24 goals and 8 assists last season. I think the negative impact of not having Artem Dovbyk in the squad will be seen in Girona's overall performance.

Girona have dropped points in their opening two matches this season. However, Girona won their next two matches against Osasuna and Sevilla. And Girona will face Barcelona in the next match. Girona is likely to lose points in this match as well.

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Since he was first brought in from Manchester City and has played 4 matches but Julian Alvarez has yet to score his debut goal with Atletico, could he fail here? surely many of us are questioning his performance under Diego Simeone and unlike being trained by Pep Guardiola he can always score goals even though he comes off the bench.

Maybe Julian Alvarez is still adapting to the new league and unlike before he should have no trouble at all. Like Mbappe there will definitely be a time for Julian Alvarez to score his first goal and I hope he can give great expectations to the fans considering Morata left so he is Atletico's hope at this time.

I don't understand Simeone about why he even started with Alvarez instead of Sørloth against Athletic Bilbao.  Huh  He was performing way better you know. If you have a better performer then you should give them more chances. Alvarez has played horrible since he signed for Atletico Madrid. It seems like he has some serious adaptation problems.

It is so early in the season maybe but if Alvarez keeps playing like this his end wouldn't be much different than Felix. I believe Sørloth should be given a chance in the starting lineup for now together with Griezmann in the attacking line. They would be a more effective duo.  Wink

Totally agreed. Alvarez was doing nothing so far. He was wasting many chances. I see him more as a false nine, but he is not putting pressure on Bilbao's defenders. And compared to the Sorloth, he is nothing. I'm very worried about his future in ATM.

Sorloth helped us with bullying Bilbao's defenders and midfielders off the ball. I prefer Simeone to start Sorloth, not Alvarez, in the next game. Sorloth has greatly contributed to our club.

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Bookmakers evaluate current results as fluctuations and deviations from the average, so far nothing serious has happened for them to change their global estimates. Unfortunately, the face-to-face game Real - Barcelona will take place only in the 11th round at the end of October. I think that such a schedule is not in Barcelona's favor. By the way, the next game for Barcelona will be quite difficult - away to Girona. So far, Girona is clearly not the same, but last year they defeated Barcelona twice.
Yeah I agree about Girona. At least in big games they don't look good for now. They lost really hard against Atletico Madrid. But their most recent results were positive with two wins. Let's see whether they will manage to finish in top 4.  Smiley

I also wish El Clasico was much closer than that date.  Sad  Because we have a much stronger Barcelona this season. Hansi Flick has really made a big difference so far. I'm looking forward to watching their performance in bigger games.

I'm glad that they signed Dani Olmo as well by the way. He has started to show his talent right away. He is helping attack organizations a lot. Maybe Nico Williams didn't come but it looks like Olmo will make up for him easily.
I highly doubt Girona will finish in the top four this season, they had an amazing season last year and that's how they got the good results, but this season they do not look as good as last year and I feel like there is a chance that we could probably not do that well.

Girona could still finish top ten there is no doubt about that, they have a good club and could do fine, but it doesn't mean that top four would be possible, I feel like it would be unlikely result without a doubt. The best thing to do in this case would be just considering how they would do fine or not, and because of that we should consider how that would be not that easy to handle for Girona since they lost so many good players this season, starting with Savio of course.

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My impression, correct me if I'm wrong, is to see very tired players. Mbappe isn't doing anything either, but not because he isn't good: no one doubts his skill.
I don't know what it's due to, I'm not a coach or an athletic trainer: mine is just an impression from watching them play.
Then again, they've always said that they play too much.

I don't know, it could be related to a gradual return to form, Real Madrid had a lot of players who played for their national teams at the Euro, so they returned to training later, this could also affect the team. In addition, I noticed that Ancelotti pays a lot of attention to the team reaching optimal conditions closer to the end of the season, because it is almost impossible to spend the entire season at the peak of form, and in this case, it is logical that the beginning of the season for the team may seem difficult. But they are most likely not tired, they are simply gaining form, and this may take some time.
Real Madrid are currently in a rather unpleasant situation, international break, injured players including Camavinga (France), Tchouameni (France), Mendy (France), Bellingham (England) and David Alaba (Austria). and some who are still fit are called up to the national team. Things that Ancelotti doesn't want such as fatigue and injuries are unavoidable. Automatically it will only extend the time to find the best game much longer than we expected, plus the demands of undergoing the Champions League which is getting closer.
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September 04, 2024, 06:14:34 PM
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I don't understand Simeone about why he even started with Alvarez instead of Sørloth against Athletic Bilbao.  Huh  He was performing way better you know. If you have a better performer then you should give them more chances. Alvarez has played horrible since he signed for Atletico Madrid. It seems like he has some serious adaptation problems.

It is so early in the season maybe but if Alvarez keeps playing like this his end wouldn't be much different than Felix. I believe Sørloth should be given a chance in the starting lineup for now together with Griezmann in the attacking line. They would be a more effective duo.  Wink

To be honest, I rarely watched about Alvarez when he moved to Atletico Madrid. However, based on what I know, it seems that Alvarez needs adjustment in order to find his playing rhythm with Atletico. As we know, lately Simeone tends to implement a duo striker in his front line. So, it seems that the Argentine international striker needs a little adjustment with his new team. In the match against Bilbao, Simeone again tried to implement a single striker. Unfortunately, Alvarez was unable to score his first goal in La Liga. IMO, I would agree more if Simeone should have let Alvarez adapt first. I mean, he was played in the second half before being really trusted to be the main starter. Moreover, Alvarez is a finisher striker type. He is always good at placing himself in empty spaces in the opponent's area, his goal instinct has been tested. However, it seems that he has to start a new step at ATM before reaching his real performance.

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