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[rdbase]

Tough choice this week, it's a toss up. If it was at heinz field i would pick pittsburg but its going to be freezing in Cleveland so that will factor. A lot of great players are going to be in this game so there is no lack of talent. I think the entire game will depend on what "Mayfield" shows up tonight so it's pretty impossible to call this one. I would not bet anything except maybe the under for the first half and I don't feel good about that either. I'm going to take a guess that the brown finally catch a win here at home in the cold.

Added: I'm surprised we have 75% of us voting Browns.

I am with the rest of the votes and going with the browns on this matchup.
Last game I watched the steelers saw them struggling and browns are due for their luck to turn around.
It always happens eventually and I like to pick the under dogs going against the grain.

[morvillz7z]

I just had an absolute shit day with my soccer euro qualifier picks. Why did i even bother touching those?

That's why i'm 360 switching my pick and going with OVER 41.5 (it dropped a point). Odell Beckham has only one receiving TD this year in 9 games. It's time!!!

[Hueristic]

I just had an absolute shit day with my soccer euro qualifier picks. Why did i even bother touching those?

That's why i'm 360 switching my pick and going with OVER 41.5 (it dropped a point). Odell Beckham has only one receiving TD this year in 9 games. It's time!!!

GL, there is a reason Odell sucks this year.

[ralle14]

I voted for the Browns(and betting on them) because most of their home results are very close even though they only won 1 out of 4 and they've beaten the Ravens. Steelers is a strong team currently on a win streak but a lot of their wins come from home matches. Also it's a division match and these usually are close games it could come down to the last field goal or touchdown.

[Hueristic]

Best play of the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_EjH1_xZc

[yahoo62278]

Best play of the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_EjH1_xZc

Crazy this happened with 8 seconds left in the game. Wonder how many games Garrett will be suspended for this now. Looked like Mason Rudolph tried ripping his helmet off 1st and pissed Garrett off.

[Hueristic]

Best play of the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_EjH1_xZc

Crazy this happened with 8 seconds left in the game. Wonder how many games Garrett will be suspended for this now. Looked like Mason Rudolph tried ripping his helmet off 1st and pissed Garrett off.

I think he's going to loose the rest of the year. There seems to be no-one giving him the benefit of the doubt for anything like maybe responding to a racial slur or some other mitigating type circumstance.

IOW He's done Jim you get his wallet and I'll get his tri-corder.




Added: it looks like Willie McGinest on the nfl network is using talking points to "explain" why it happened which is a sign that he may not lose the rest of the season.
And they are playing an apology tour from him now.


This is a good watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZLdzl5Ylao

[ralle14]

Best play of the game!

That fight I think was the best thing that happened for the Steelers since they'll be hosting the Browns in the next couple of weeks. Those physical exchanges were so unexpected, I thought the match would end smoothly and they'll just let the clock run then that happened. I wonder what they've said down there for a fight to quickly escalate in the last few seconds of the match. I also think he'll be out for the whole season since there's only a month and a half left.

[wheelz1200]

Best play of the game!

That fight I think was the best thing that happened for the Steelers since they'll be hosting the Browns in the next couple of weeks. Those physical exchanges were so unexpected, I thought the match would end smoothly and they'll just let the clock run then that happened. I wonder what they've said down there for a fight to quickly escalate in the last few seconds of the match. I also think he'll be out for the whole season since there's only a month and a half left.

It looked like that was the only play where someone actually was trying to do something on the football field involving effort  . I think these teams showed exactly what they are tonight average middle of the road teams.  Neither of the 2 are going to manage to do anything if one happens to sneak into the playoffs.  Baltimore is the team in the north, the rest are just jockeying for draft position this year.  Glad Cleveland came through in this game though

[South Park]

Best play of the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_EjH1_xZc

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Crazy this happened with 8 seconds left in the game. Wonder how many games Garrett will be suspended for this now. Looked like Mason Rudolph tried ripping his helmet off 1st and pissed Garrett off.

I still think this was Garrett’s fault, under the new rules which protect the QB so much Garrett used too much force against a QB which had already released the ball in a game that was basically over with 8 seconds on the clock, Rudolph got mad and then all of this started, he will get at least 4 games but I will not be surprised if he misses the rest of the season since this was not a minor incident, he basically used a weapon to hit a player without a helmet on the head, the NFL cannot ignore this.

Unrelated, but I missed the opportunity to vote on the poll.



Edit: Garrett suspended at least for the rest of the regular season and the playoffs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1195384142034358272?p=v
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1195385287758757889?p=v

[rdbase]

Watched the game and it lasted alot longer then it was sposse to. Since the browns won the game at the 3 minute mark and in the dying seconds the steelers could of just ended the game for they lost already. One touchdown or field goal wouldnt of made a difference anyways.
Seeing the play unfold the steeler players were kicking garrett when he was thrown to the ground. But from the looks of it garrett started it as the quarterback has this protection rule in play.
And from one previous play of a browns player knocking out a steelers player earlier in the quarter with a helmet to helmet contact causing him to bleed from one of his ears. I could only see things escalating from there.

[vella85]

Vegas won big on the Browns winning as most of the money was on the Steelers to cover and it seemed that the media was also all over the Steelers winning. I should of checked that before placing my bet on the Steelers as most times then not, the result goes the other way when a lot of the public money is on the one team. I should of stuck with the Browns as I hit with them last week against the Bills.

[bbc.reporter]

Best play of the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_EjH1_xZc

Crazy this happened with 8 seconds left in the game. Wonder how many games Garrett will be suspended for this now. Looked like Mason Rudolph tried ripping his helmet off 1st and pissed Garrett off.

He only did because Myles Garrett unnecessarily took down a quarterback, who was having a very bad performance, with a team who has already lost 21 - 7 with no chance on the last seconds of the game.

There was bad intent from Garrett and using Rudolph's helmet to beat him as a reaction is assault.

[Hueristic]

Best play of the game!

That fight I think was the best thing that happened for the Steelers since they'll be hosting the Browns in the next couple of weeks. Those physical exchanges were so unexpected, I thought the match would end smoothly and they'll just let the clock run then that happened. I wonder what they've said down there for a fight to quickly escalate in the last few seconds of the match. I also think he'll be out for the whole season since there's only a month and a half left.

Apparently they released the vid from another angle and Rudolph was trying to pry Garrett's helmet off first so now I see why he pulled Rudolph's helmet off but Garrett should have punched him and not clocked him with the helmet.
Rudolfs press conference quote (it looks like the footage has been removed everywhere (or i'm just too stupid to find it now).

“I don’t know what the rules are, I know it’s bush league, total coward move on his part,” he said. “I get it, I can take it, I’m not going to back down from any bully out there. So we’ll see what happens.”

After some reflection and seeing the vid from the other angle I think Rudolf couldn't deal with the last interception and said something that set the entire thing off. Also Rudolph jumped back in there when the lineman were breaking it up (instead of backing off like he is supposed to) and i think he's a POS after watching his bullshit press conference saying he was "bullied".

It was also funny to watch Pouncey get all "balls to the wall", you would think he would have learned his lesson in Miami but I guess them Roids gonna do what them Roids are gonna do.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/05/27/pouncey-has-no-regrets-about-2013/9629981/




There is a lot of blame to go around and it just seems to boil down to the game is a serious matter to these guys that depend on it for a living and they can let it get under their skin especially when they take drugs that alter their physiology.

[rdbase]

He only did because Myles Garrett unnecessarily took down a quarterback, who was having a very bad performance, with a team who has already lost 21 - 7 with no chance on the last seconds of the game.

There was bad intent from Garrett and using Rudolph's helmet to beat him as a reaction is assault.

They mentioned after aday of going over footage and getting all the reactions from different sides on what happened he could be charged with assault. But only if rudolph filed a former complaint to the police which they said he would not be doing. Could he have called him a racial slur while he was trying to tear garretts helmet off while they were rolling around on the ground in the previous play? Only they would know.

@Hueristic I didnt get to see his press conference afterwards but wouldnt doubt it was full of excuses to not get him suspended for continuing to go after this player even after their previous altercation. This would be called instigation and should of been looked into by the same nfl committee which gave garrett the suspension.
Pouncey? Didnt know about his background in taking roids but nevertheless it is hilarious to know about this little tidbit.

[morvillz7z]

This was kinda left behind the Steelers/Browns brawl on TNF which was the main headline all week, but Kaepernick is scheduled to workout for NFL teams today in Atlanta. There will be at least a dozen teams in attendance, i know this whole thing is set up by the NFL, and it could very well be a PR move with no real shot for him. But boy, watching some of the QBs this year, if Kaep is in shape and good to go, teams should not pass on him.
Trubisky, anyone? 

[nutildah]

Who do you guys like the most in Sunday's games? (tomorrow for me, today for most of you... well it will be Monday morning here, but you know what I mean..)

Immediately I like New Orleans over Tampa Bay at -6. Might put down some BTC on that one. Toward the end of the season I like to look at the Against the Spread (ATS) for 2 teams and if there's a big mismatch, go with the team that tends to cover more often than not.

Right now NO is 6-3 ATS and TB is 2-7... Saints are 2 games ahead in their division, but I'm sure they will do everything they can to secure another V.

Any reason why you wouldn't take the Saints to cover in this one?

[vella85]

There doesn't look to be much value in today's games unless you like the favourites to cover the spreads which I feel is risky but I do think there is some value in the Falcons to cover the +4.5 spread so I'm taking that as a single bet.

For my parlay I got the Falcons to cover the +4.5, Saints ML, Cowboys ML and Bills ML.

Odds $4.79

Bet $20

Return = $95.92

[Hueristic]

There doesn't look to be much value in today's games unless you like the favourites to cover the spreads which I feel is risky but I do think there is some value in the Falcons to cover the +4.5 spread so I'm taking that as a single bet.

For my parlay I got the Falcons to cover the +4.5, Saints ML, Cowboys ML and Bills ML.

Odds $4.79

Bet $20

Return = $95.92

I like this bet except I think the Falcons are going to get crushed.
BTW: Here is last week for me guys just so you can see How you can make insanely great choices like sitting Locket for Kirk and Colman for RJIII and Then the Studs try to tank you (I was thinking of getting on a plane and mowing down the entire rams team!)! Both my teams faced LAR defence this week as well, funny that happened to me earlier in the season when both of mine faced the Pats putting up 20+ points. Weird coincidence.

Who do you guys like the most in Sunday's games? (tomorrow for me, today for most of you... well it will be Monday morning here, but you know what I mean..)

Immediately I like New Orleans over Tampa Bay at -6. Might put down some BTC on that one. Toward the end of the season I like to look at the Against the Spread (ATS) for 2 teams and if there's a big mismatch, go with the team that tends to cover more often than not.

Right now NO is 6-3 ATS and TB is 2-7... Saints are 2 games ahead in their division, but I'm sure they will do everything they can to secure another V.

Any reason why you wouldn't take the Saints to cover in this one?

TB seems to be getting hot and the saints went in the opposite direction since Brees has been back so thats a reason to stay away from this one. I fully expect the Saints to take this one down but would not be surprised if TB crushes them, this is one of those weird ones where circumstances come down to the core of the team rebounding from adversity and also running into a team that is getting its legs. TB has some big Offensive weapons and it looks like the have theri running game sorted and as long as Winston does not start throwing interceptions again they can be dangerous. Gay is also an under rated kicker that could make a game winner. OTOH I have no clue what is going on with the saints, they looked horrible the last few eeeks and kamara looks anemic lately and without his explosiveness then the passing game cannnot develop and pressure will get in on him and even his super fast release cannot stand under pressure all day.But After all thast being said The Saints are a much better team with a long track record and i fully expect them to bounce back this week, I am playing Brees and thomas on my seconds team this week (I grabbed Brees off the wire a few weeks ago and expect him to start paying dividends now).

BTW what sites are you guys trusting with your BTC bets?
I'm looking for a site that accepts monero and is dependable.

Ohh and I have to go back and see who wins the merit I promised.

[nutildah]

TB seems to be getting hot and the saints went in the opposite direction since Brees has been back so thats a reason to stay away from this one. I fully expect the Saints to take this one down but would not be surprised if TB crushes them, this is one of those weird ones where circumstances come down to the core of the team rebounding from adversity and also running into a team that is getting its legs. TB has some big Offensive weapons and it looks like the have theri running game sorted and as long as Winston does not start throwing interceptions again they can be dangerous. Gay is also an under rated kicker that could make a game winner. OTOH I have no clue what is going on with the saints, they looked horrible the last few eeeks and kamara looks anemic lately and without his explosiveness then the passing game cannnot develop and pressure will get in on him and even his super fast release cannot stand under pressure all day.But After all thast being said The Saints are a much better team with a long track record and i fully expect them to bounce back this week, I am playing Brees and thomas on my seconds team this week (I grabbed Brees off the wire a few weeks ago and expect him to start paying dividends now).

Hmm... You actually talked me out of it. Also I just remembered I have Jameis Winston as my QB and Chris Godwin as a WR. I also have Thomas as a WR... But, I'll be asleep when it happens. Gonna wake up early to watch the Rams game tho.

BTW what sites are you guys trusting with your BTC bets?
I'm looking for a site that accepts monero and is dependable.

Can't help you there cuz. I know FortuneJack accepts XMR but not for their sportsbook. Maybe later... they've only had a sportsbook for less than a year.