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Question: Ethnic cleansing of Russian speaking by Kiev forces is the main cause of clashes in Donbass area.
True. - 54 (51.4%)
This is Khasarian Kaganat and Russians must be killed or must be sclaves. - 29 (27.6%)
What is Donbass? - 5 (4.8%)
Where is Kiev? - 4 (3.8%)
My TV show only Israeli clashes. - 13 (12.4%)
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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734778 times)
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April 08, 2014, 06:53:31 AM
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Ukrainian army has moved in to Kharkiv.... but it will be interesting to see if they have the balls to move to Donetsk.
and i thought it was/is Blackwater... now thinks will get interessting...
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April 08, 2014, 06:57:34 AM
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http://vybor.ua/article/vneshnjaja_politika/ukraina-ne-imeet-oficialnyh-granic.html

Interesting, is that true or not. According to this, Ukraine has no official state borders yet. And formally it's still an administrative district within USSR Roll Eyes
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April 08, 2014, 07:16:52 AM
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http://vybor.ua/article/vneshnjaja_politika/ukraina-ne-imeet-oficialnyh-granic.html

Interesting, is that true or not. According to this, Ukraine has no official state borders yet. And formally it's still an administrative district within USSR Roll Eyes


Looks like an interesting loop-hole to use to resolve this whole issue in a civilised manner.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 08, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
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and i thought it was/is Blackwater... now thinks will get interessting...

Blackwater has tarnished its reputation. If they gets involved in Ukraine, it will bring bad name to the US as well.
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April 08, 2014, 07:39:39 AM
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200 english speaking soldiers landed in donetsk last night.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1396941310
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April 08, 2014, 07:47:23 AM
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http://vybor.ua/article/vneshnjaja_politika/ukraina-ne-imeet-oficialnyh-granic.html

Interesting, is that true or not. According to this, Ukraine has no official state borders yet. And formally it's still an administrative district within USSR Roll Eyes


Looks like an interesting loop-hole to use to resolve this whole issue in a civilised manner.
That's not a fake, just seen this confirmation from the president of Kazakhstan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_9K8RWX_EU

Well... Somebody fucked up, really.
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April 08, 2014, 07:49:28 AM
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200 english speaking soldiers landed in donetsk last night.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1396941310

Let me see how many of them will get back to the US alive.
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April 08, 2014, 08:01:23 AM
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http://vybor.ua/article/vneshnjaja_politika/ukraina-ne-imeet-oficialnyh-granic.html

Interesting, is that true or not. According to this, Ukraine has no official state borders yet. And formally it's still an administrative district within USSR Roll Eyes


Looks like an interesting loop-hole to use to resolve this whole issue in a civilised manner.
That's not a fake, just seen this confirmation from the president of Kazakhstan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_9K8RWX_EU

Well... Somebody fucked up, really.
how can it be a district of something that does not exists??
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April 08, 2014, 08:11:25 AM
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Brilliant!
http://news.rambler.ru/24460018/

Only 1 of 6 American respondents to Washington Post quiz managed to place Ukraine correctly on the map, even though ther responded that US should perform military intervention into Ukraine. Cheesy

I think they are excused as it seems Ukraine is borderless and thus encompasses the whole world!   Grin

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April 08, 2014, 08:23:56 AM
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Only 1 of 6 American respondents to Washington Post quiz managed to place Ukraine correctly on the map, even though ther responded that US should perform military intervention into Ukraine. Cheesy

I think they are excused as it seems Ukraine is borderless and thus encompasses the whole world!   Grin

What about those idiots who pointed inside the US territory? They want war too?
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April 08, 2014, 08:24:41 AM
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how can it be a district of something that does not exists??
There are two problems.

1. Actually it still exists de jure, because dissolution wasn't done according to the required procedure.
2. Even if it doesn't exist, it doesn't matter. Absence of demarcation pacts means absence of state borders. This means that any accusations of separatism or occupation will be senseless in terms of international law. There are no borders, so anybody is allowed to do anything.
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April 08, 2014, 08:26:18 AM
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western mass media is still not reporting any of ukranian events for over two weeks now. i believe they will do the same as in osetia. they waiting for russian army to move in and call it 'invasion'. instead we are shown pistorius trial live. thats pathetic.
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April 08, 2014, 08:29:53 AM
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how can it be a district of something that does not exists??
There are two problems.

1. Actually it still exists de jure, because dissolution wasn't done according to law.
2. Even if it didn't exist, it doesn't matter. Absence of demarcation pacts means absence of state borders. This means that any accusations of separatism or occupation will be senseless in terms of international law.
thx for the explanation Smiley
why not just remove all boarders of all countries?? would circumvent future problems... a cross the globe..
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April 08, 2014, 08:31:26 AM
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western mass media is still not reporting any of ukranian events for over two weeks now.

Because major cities such as Lugansk and Donetsk have been taken over by pro-Russians. And there is nothing the American puppet can do about it. So the best thing to do now, is to keep quiet.
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April 08, 2014, 08:32:39 AM
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why than not just remove all boarders of all countries?? would circumvent future problems... a cross the globe..
It will remove a few problems through creating many others... Borders are useful to fight with drug traffic, migration, etc. Roll Eyes
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April 08, 2014, 08:39:47 AM
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why than not just remove all boarders of all countries?? would circumvent future problems... a cross the globe..
It will remove one problem through creating many others... Borders are useful to fight with drug traffic, migration, etc. Roll Eyes
i would call it removing a problem which could lead to war, which is much worse than drug traffic etc..
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April 08, 2014, 08:55:00 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKMVFtPsFI#t=46

Freedom of Speech in the Ukrainian parliament Roll Eyes
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April 08, 2014, 10:17:30 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKMVFtPsFI#t=46

Freedom of Speech in the Ukrainian parliament Roll Eyes

And all he did was say that people in the South-East should not be antagonised, and there should be negotiations instead of violent responses. That got him a violent response.
Well, he asked for it, reminding Right Sector nationalists that they did exactly the same thing in Kiev as the pro-Russian separatists in South-East are doing now...

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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April 08, 2014, 12:18:19 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKMVFtPsFI#t=46

Freedom of Speech in the Ukrainian parliament Roll Eyes

The joys of E.U integration. Fights in parliament, armed gangs on the streets, and weird right wing extremists in power.
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April 08, 2014, 02:07:11 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUTmauJhpjM

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