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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734742 times)
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April 27, 2014, 09:13:38 AM
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Looks like Kiev halted their operation without pushing further into the center of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and other rebellious towns? I suppose that there is a lot of diplomacy going on behind the stage, which is a good thing.

They have positioned themselves around the major cities, with snipers already in place. Just waiting for the right moment to launch their attack. Anyway.... right now they are facing a shortage of experienced troops who are willing to fight.
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April 27, 2014, 10:50:07 AM
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Kerry promised Lavrov to persuade Kiev to de-escalate tension in the East of Ukraine:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/04/26/calling/

Kerry de-facto acknowledged controlling Kiev. Smiley



are you sure maybe it is scientology... lol
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April 27, 2014, 11:25:20 AM
Last edit: April 28, 2014, 07:51:05 PM by Pagan
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ruϟϟians special forces and ruϟϟian nazis crimes in Ukraine. In this photos deputy Rybak and a student from Kiev, gutted bellies, cut genitals. Putin thus protect ruϟϟians.


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April 27, 2014, 12:07:36 PM
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Care to show some legit evidence for your claims, Pagan? Was there any serious investigation which would confirm identity of those two poor lads and prove us, beyound any doubt, who killed them and under what circumstances? I guess no. This is old and well known propagandist pattern: take pictures of slaughtered or decomposing bodies, add some random women and children crying tears in front of the ruined buildings, slap some big words like "OMG! HELP! STOP <insert whomever you consider bad guys at the moment>" onto it, and finally throw that shit into the face of (western) public. Only goal is to dehumanize "other side" and represent it as horde of mindless, blood-thirsty animals and thus justify everything that might follow.

Anyway - enough is enough. Welcome to my ignore list Pagan, you've managed to be the first one ever on it.
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April 27, 2014, 12:18:01 PM
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He don't need any legit evidence, Obama told him so. Cheesy

I suppose that he prefer to ignore this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiSYnVELA0

Or, maybe, post some bullshit instead of answer, something like "It's a Putin under the guise"... All propagandist  scums are stupid enough for that. Smiley
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April 27, 2014, 02:13:05 PM
Last edit: April 28, 2014, 07:52:28 PM by Pagan
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ruϟϟians troops and ruϟϟian nazis crimes in Chechnya (the same as in Ukraine)

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April 27, 2014, 02:32:34 PM
Last edit: April 28, 2014, 07:53:32 PM by Pagan
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ruϟϟians special forces and ruϟϟian nazis crimes in Ukraine. In this photos deputy Rybak and a student from Kiev, gutted bellies, cut genitals. Putin thus protect ruϟϟians.

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Second body in Slovyansk identified as Kyiv student



The second tortured and murdered person whose body was found in the waters of Slovyansk has been identified. He was Yuriy Popravko, a student at the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute, reported KPI Rector Mykhaylo Zhurovskyy on his VKontakte page.

“To our great sorrow, our worst fears have been confirmed,” he wrote. “A student at the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute in the Department of Sociology and Law, Yuriy Popravko, has died tragically. His body with signs of torture was found in the river near Slovyansk, Donetsk Oblast, together with the body of deputy Vitaliy Rybak. We express our deepest condolences to the family and friends of Yuriy. May his memory be eternal.” Zhurovsky said.

Earlier, Channel 5 reported that the 19-year-old activist of Euromaidan had disappeared and could be held by terrorists in the East.

His mother said that Yuriy, together with friends, went to see his girlfriend in Kharkiv on April 16. Afterwards there was no further contact with him. Yuriy’s girlfriend, Dasha, who is studying in Kharkiv confirmed that he came to see her with his friends and the next day left for parts unknown. The mother thought that possibly the boy was being held captive by militants in Slovyansk.

She added that when she called her son’s phone, she was told that the boy had died but that his phone was being kept to “locate friends.”

As has been reported, two bodies with signs of torture were found in the river Torets near the village Rayhorodok in the Donetsk Oblast. One of those killed turned out to be the deputy of the Horlivka City Council and a member of the Batkivshchyna Party, Volodymyr Rybak.

Source: http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/04/25/7023646

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April 27, 2014, 02:39:42 PM
Last edit: April 28, 2014, 07:54:30 PM by Pagan
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ruϟϟians special forces and ruϟϟian nazis crimes in Ukraine. In this photos deputy Rybak and a student from Kiev, gutted bellies, cut genitals. Putin thus protect ruϟϟians.

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Security Service of Ukraine releases conversation of terrorists who killed deputy – VIDEO with subs



The Security Service has released an audio recording of conversations concerning the murder of Volodymyr Rybak, Deputy of Horlivka City Council.

As reported, it is the group under so-called ‘Shooter’, which operates in Donetsk Oblast, and a citizen of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant Colonel of the National Intelligence Agency (GRU) Igor Bezler.

It was established that on 17 April 2014, Bezler (call sign BES – Devil) set the self-proclaimed chief of police the task of neutralizing Rybak, who was trying to raise the national flag on the Horlivka Regional State Administration building.

Simultaneously, Bezler gave orders to a member of his group, a military officer of the Russian Federation, to kidnap Rybak, put him in a car, and take him to a specified place, where measures of physical coercion would be applied to him. Bezler planned to personally go to the place where Rybak would be detained.

Then, following Shooter’s (Igor Strelkov) orders, Rybak was taken to the headquarters of separatists in Sloviansk, where he personally had to talk to Igor Strelkov.

It was also established that on 20 April 2014 Strelkov personally gave instructions to Ponomariov, the self-proclaimed mayor of Sloviansk, to take the body of murdered Rybak away from headquarters; the order was carried out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zACg4uAjA

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Orders to seize Rybak:

Bezler: “Alf, listen to me, go inside the city executive committee. There Rybak is on a rampage. There, people are trying to restrain him somehow.”

Bezler: “Look, squeeze and press him for a bit, put him in your car, and take him somewhere far away. And then stop the car and tell me where I should come. Understood? Come on!”

Bezler: “Do not hang up! Guys, take him, we need to pack him up and take him away.”

Bezler: “When packing – tie his hands, tie him so hard that no eyes, so that he can’t see anything.”

Order of Russian special operations soldier Strelkov to self-proclaimed mayor of Sloviansk Ponomariov concerning measures to bury the body:

Strelkov: “Slava, please, settle the matter with the stiff. So that he is quickly dragged away from us today. Why should he be lying here and stinking … “

Ponomaryov: “With the corpse? Yes, yes, just a moment. I am now finishing with journalists and will do it straight away”

Ponomaryov: “There guys caught… they will take … to you with … there to the basement … “

Ponomaryov: “And now I will go quickly and settle the issue of burying this [prison] bitch.”

Strelkov: “Come on, good.”

At a briefing earlier, Marina Ostapenko, spokeswoman of the Security Service of Ukraine, appealed to the people of Sloviansk, asking them not to support terrorists.

 

Source: Ukrayinska Pravda (includes audio) www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/04/24/7023486

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April 27, 2014, 05:10:49 PM
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Kharkiv rally today: NO Putin, NO ruϟϟia! Glory to Ukraine!


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pro-ruϟϟian and ruϟϟian  forces in Donetsk oblast release photos of Ukrainian special servicemen, detained and tortured, to the Russian media.
This is the face of "people's power" in Slovyansk. Criminals, quite simple


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April 27, 2014, 08:49:31 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPmQ5pKuOMA

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April 27, 2014, 08:50:12 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88BwEIPpsG4

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April 27, 2014, 08:54:42 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1pq2lexVCw

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April 27, 2014, 09:13:46 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj7H2SudcNQ

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April 27, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
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Ok I have checked prices in Crimea. I have even checked some properties for sale like this one - http://evpatoriya.cri.slando.ua/obyavlenie/prodam-uyutnyy-dom-v-evpatorii-ID7zDtx.html#aebfcca3d7;promoted

Nearly 300,000 usd Smiley How about Kiev? Since place is mess now perhaps some flats, houses are cheap there? Smiley Especially flats occupied by right sector lol Maybe owner wants a bit of cash to go to Russia or EU Smiley
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April 27, 2014, 09:27:38 PM
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It depends on location, something like 200,000-250,000 for 3 rooms, so I don't see any reason to buy anything in Kiev yet. Roll Eyes By the way, right after chernobyl accident the prices of flats in Kiev have had dropped significantly. However, after the collapse of the USSR, they rose again.

P.S. Your link says, that "Price negotiating is possible".
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Smiley


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Right-sector sponsored Ultra attack on Kharkov protesters.   Angry
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April 28, 2014, 04:33:18 AM
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Care to show some legit evidence for your claims, Pagan? Was there any serious investigation which would confirm identity of those two poor lads and prove us, beyound any doubt, who killed them and under what circumstances? I guess no. This is old and well known propagandist pattern: take pictures of slaughtered or decomposing bodies, add some random women and children crying tears in front of the ruined buildings, slap some big words like "OMG! HELP! STOP <insert whomever you consider bad guys at the moment>" onto it, and finally throw that shit into the face of (western) public. Only goal is to dehumanize "other side" and represent it as horde of mindless, blood-thirsty animals and thus justify everything that might follow.

Anyway - enough is enough. Welcome to my ignore list Pagan, you've managed to be the first one ever on it.
only one on my ignore list too, for long time now. Smiley

testing Smiley
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April 28, 2014, 04:46:24 AM
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‘Tanks, APCs, 15,000 troops’: Satellite images show Kiev forces build-up near Slavyansk

http://rt.com/news/155096-ukrainian-troops-satellite-images

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Ukrainian tanks and armored vehicles have been stationed en masse around the Donetsk region city of Slavyansk, satellite images leaked to media reveal. A Russian defense source says that artillery and rocket systems have also been deployed to the area.
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