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October 16, 2019, 11:14:57 AM
Last edit: October 16, 2019, 11:40:04 AM by be.open
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Tagging you isn't a wrong decision as the evidence provided above is enough reasons to back that.
Nop, if I'm right. But I cannot prove it, and the prosecution cannot refute it. There is an inescapable doubt here and I ask you to interpret it in my favor, calling for the aid of the presumption of innocence. I do not ask believe me, I ask to judge me fairly.

But I heard your advice, tnx.

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October 16, 2019, 12:16:43 PM
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As you can see, I simply have no chance to prove my point. That is why in a fair justice system there is a presumption of innocence and the burden of proof rests with the prosecution.

This is not a criminal trial and you're not being sentenced to prison. You have +1 and -1 in your DT feedback. You can go up or down from here, mostly depends on you.

I just call a spade a spade and I think it's true. Don’t pout, honey.

It may seem true in some backwoods where it's still acceptable to treat women this way but in reality that's quite wrong. You might want to rethink your attitude.

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October 16, 2019, 12:23:52 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2019, 01:19:42 PM by be.open
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As you can see, I simply have no chance to prove my point. That is why in a fair justice system there is a presumption of innocence and the burden of proof rests with the prosecution.

This is not a criminal trial and you're not being sentenced to prison. You have +1 and -1 in your DT feedback. You can go up or down from here, mostly depends on you.
I would rather go up with a clean reputation without a bounty cheater tag, which I absolutely don't deserve. In addition, the cleanliness of Sancho's account bothers me even more.

I just call a spade a spade and I think it's true. Don’t pout, honey.

It may seem true in some backwoods where it's still acceptable to treat women this way but in reality that's quite wrong. You might want to rethink your attitude.
Sorry, I probably got excited about the form of the statement, which does not negate the presence of a motive for personal revenge.

By the way, topicstarter also has a motive for personal revenge.

And what do we have? One rummages through my story of messages two years ago, trying to find at least something dubious. Another imposes a sentence before considering all the circumstances of the case, without hearing the arguments of the defense (despite the fact that Sancho18 immediately declared his innocence and asked not to rush to conclusions). Although both are well aware that this is not a shit-posting farm, but two active accounts with unique high-quality content. Maybe because both are driven by a thirst for personal revenge?

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October 16, 2019, 02:34:12 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2019, 02:45:16 PM by JohnBitCo
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Although all the father/Son , brother/sister cases in this forum are all fake but going through all this conversation I have a feeling in my heart that be.open might be true in his case and he deserve justice here. Everyone is not liar and the way he has presented his case, I do hope he get the result which may keep him and his son's believe that justice do exists in this world.

On contrary to this, the shameless words which be.open used for lovesmayfamilis in public is condemnable and he should say sorry to her , regardless of her opinion of her tagging him. What impresses me that even after so much humiliations, she did not replied back in an abusive language which shows her nobility.

Also i am not sure which personals glitch you both have as that link directs to local language which i am not familiar with, but lovesmayfamilis should make a fair decision in the end whatever she think is right.



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October 16, 2019, 03:51:53 PM
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Although all the father/Son , brother/sister cases in this forum are all fake but going through all this conversation I have a feeling in my heart that be.open might be true in his case and he deserve justice here. Everyone is not liar and the way he has presented his case, I do hope he get the result which may keep him and his son's believe that justice do exists in this world.
Tnx.

On contrary to this, the shameless words which be.open used for lovesmayfamilis in public is condemnable and he should say sorry to her , regardless of her opinion of her tagging him. What impresses me that even after so much humiliations, she did not replied back in an abusive language which shows her nobility.

Also i am not sure which personals glitch you both have as that link directs to local language which i am not familiar with, but lovesmayfamilis should make a fair decision in the end whatever she think is right.

It would be much easier for me to protect my reputation if the punishment had not already been applied. It took me a while to study similar precedents and work out an optimal line of defense. Obviously, abolishing the punishment is much more difficult than preventing it. Unfortunately, I did not find another effective way to call the punisher for an open dialogue on this topic. And I needed her open recognition of the presence of a motive for revenge, and here it is:

Have you forgotten how to read? What is personal revenge? You are nobody to me. The most common user that I mistakenly entered on my trust list, relying on your decency. What I regret now. You are not worth it.

lovesmayfamilis openly admits that she made a mistake by including me in her trust list, that I disappointed her. But what is the reason for disappointment? I did not promise her that I did not have a son. I did not hide the fact that I participated in bounty campaigns. I did not try to use her trust for personal gain. I did not try to introduce myself to her in a winning light. I did not lie to her that I never make mistakes. I just always was myself, as now. What, some kind of accusation for doing things two years ago, destroyed my halo of holiness? What is the reason for such a sharp reaction with the removal from the trust list and the issuance of a negative tag? I have only one answer to all these questions, and no matter how I try to soften its wording, the essence will not change. And even leaving behind the brackets the reason for such an impulsive decision, this is an abuse of power. Madame made a lynching, and then hid in the bushes. Not good, it's a shame. It is wrong to make emotions decisions that put an end to the career of a bounty hunter. For a member of DT, this behavior is unacceptable, it’s like signing for professional unsuitability.

But as a person, I like her and I deeply regret that I had to resort to such measures. Sorry.

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Where am I hiding? Or do you think that I should listen or read your rudeness all day? You already wrote a lot of nasty things for me. The more you continue, the less you will receive answers from me. And yes, I’m tired of this attitude, talk to your wife or son like that. Well, call for help further. Just look at similar topics, and learn to respect others, and not make yourself a Jedi.

You have been given good advice from suchmoon.

Maybe you can understand that the world does not revolve around you.
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October 16, 2019, 06:10:02 PM
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Where am I hiding? Or do you think that I should listen or read your rudeness all day? You already wrote a lot of nasty things for me. The more you continue, the less you will receive answers from me. And yes, I’m tired of this attitude, talk to your wife or son like that. Well, call for help further. Just look at similar topics, and learn to respect others, and not make yourself a Jedi.
I don't make myself a Jedi, I am a Jedi. And I saw my son’s tears from your unjust impulsive punishment, so do not expect special tenderness from me. This is not a forum for moms discussing diapers, so you won’t have discounts here for no balls. You made a mistake - have the power to acknowledge it, and correct it. You are trying to save your face, but you do not need to think about your face now, but about my son.

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Where am I hiding? Or do you think that I should listen or read your rudeness all day? You already wrote a lot of nasty things for me. The more you continue, the less you will receive answers from me. And yes, I’m tired of this attitude, talk to your wife or son like that. Well, call for help further. Just look at similar topics, and learn to respect others, and not make yourself a Jedi.
I don't make myself a Jedi, I am a Jedi. And I saw my son’s tears from your unjust impulsive punishment, so do not expect special tenderness from me. This is not a forum for moms discussing diapers, so you won’t have discounts here for no balls. You made a mistake - have the power to acknowledge it, and correct it. You are trying to save your face, but you do not need to think about your face now, but about my son.

Do you people know each other in person ? You and lovesmayfamilis ?
So what if she remove the feedback from your son profile but keep it on yours ?  I know this cannot happen but if she does, would you agree ?



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Now that I have a bit more time, I'll share my opinion on this thread.

Cheating  [BOUNTY]🔶Crowd Genie🔶 campaign
How did he/they cheat the bounty? In the thread, I don't see any limitations on the number of accounts anyone can use. It may be unethical, but I don't think it's against the rules.
I have a hard time believing any Bounty thread that promised $1,000 in their made-up Token per week, and since they thrive on spam, I don't think they even mind if someone joins with more than one account.

Connection through merit: Favorite profiles to send sMerit to for Sancho18 is be.open (top-1) - 8 merits sent, 1 merit returned.
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    93. Tue Sep 10 19:10:16 2019: 1 (109) to Sancho18 (history) for Re: Bitcoin vs Золото vs Фиат

Merit received by be.open (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until October 11, 2019 (source)
    19. Tue Feb  6 16:19:59 2018: 1 (36) from Sancho18 (history) for Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы, новости.
     9. Wed Jan 31 07:11:25 2018: 1 (17) from Sancho18 (history) for Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы, новости.
     5. Thu Jan 25 19:33:09 2018: 5 (9) from Sancho18 (history) for Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы, новости.
     1. Thu Jan 25 06:49:45 2018: 1 (1) from Sancho18 (history) for Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы, новости.
I can't read it, but considering the low amount of Merit, and the fact that some of those posts were Merited by others too, I can't say this is a clear case of Merit abuse.

Connection through wallets: great amount of tokens from both wallets were sent to
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I don't think this is debated by the involved accounts, so I assume this is correct.

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3 | Twitter accounts must be original. Fake, dead, inactive and bot accounts will not be accepted.
Obviously be.open/Sancho18 have violated this rule.
From what I've seen, the large majority of all bounty spammers uses fake Twitter accounts that only have other bounty spammers as followers.

Sancho is my son’s account, now he is 17, and for him, participating in the bounty campaigns was something like a fun game that we played together competing with each other, trying to never cross. Once I made a mistake and joined the same twitter campaign as him. This does not mean that I am a cheater, because behind us we think for more than a hundred different campaigns, and I was mistaken only once.
I've seen the "he's my family member" excuse too many times, and I can't verify it, so I'll ignore that part. But the rest: I see 2 users who each earned much more Merit than most other users, and must belong to the top "bounty hunters" in terms of Merit earnings.

To proof you are the father and son, you will need to show your ID and your son govt. issued ID which will show the father name of Sancho.
You know this is Bitcointalk, right? Wait, let me quote theymos on KYC:
I'll get right on that, just as soon as hell freezes over.
I said earlier that I wouldn't be willing to have a video chat because that's close to doxing myself, but an equally important reason is that I don't want to ask anyone else to do this either.

So, if you have a son, then you can have two accounts, if two sons, then three, if you have friends, then you can build a huge bot farm? OK. Beautiful story, thanks.
You can have more than one account indeed.

When you manage to interest your 15-year-old teenage son into engaging in any joint activities, and continue to do this together for two years, it will be important for me to know your opinion on this issue. I am very grateful to the forum that I managed to establish good relations with my son, thanks to the competitive quest in the bounty.
I really want this to be true, it sounds like a good thing to have.

If my son was on this forum I would have had some interaction with him on the forum that would make it obvious that we are close, or made a public declaration of our relationship at some point in time.
I've actually considered creating accounts for my kids already, but haven't done it yet. They're too young now, but when they're old enough, the first thing I want to teach them is how to protect their privacy online. I'm not sure yet if I'd want them to declare family relationships online, especially when it comes to Bitcoin! Anyone knowing who I am could accidentally dox me by doxing himself.

I think the decision about the negative tag was made a wet cunt, which is probably why the more sane members of DT are in no hurry to support.
Don't you think this is very rude?
I can't find this back in the unedited scraped post, nor in the current post so I can't confirm this was really posted. But if it was, it has been edited again, so I guess that means be.open agrees it was uncalled for.
One way or another, I don't really care about rude comments. It says more about the person saying it than the person they're talking about.
Whatever happens, always try to stay friendly Smiley

There are two effective strategies if I want to resolve this issue positively. And one of them is to remove lovesmayfamilis from the list of DT for abuse of power on the grounds of personal revenge.
With 9 more inclusions than exclusions on lovesmayfamilis, that's not very likely to happen.



I want to quote myself from LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system:
These are mere guidelines
Trust isn't moderated, but how you use it is your "business card" to the community. Use the above as guidelines only. It's meant to give you a general idea of what I consider good behaviour. It's also wise to ask yourself before leaving feedback: "Does my feedback make Bitcointalk a better place? And if it's negative: is it worth destroying someone's account and reputation over this?". Consider using Neutral feedback if neither Positive nor Negative is justified.
I can't read most of their posts, but based on the amount of Merit they received, they must have been contributing something to this forum. And I think we must guard against scaring off users for relatively small things.
May I remind lovesmayfamilis that (s)he him/herself was banned, and got unbanned with a signature ban until next year?


Because lovesmayfamilis Trusts my judgement:
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LoyceV's judgement is Trusted by:
136. lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 819 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
I suggest to give this user (or these users?) the benefit of the doubt, and a chance to help improve this forum, and turn this into neutral tags.

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@LoyceV

First of all, I would like to show you what you missed in the comments:

~ And my only mistake by inattention does not mean that I am a cheater.

There is such a funny user Prod.
He became a member in just a week, very successfully received 10 merits from be.open (1), Sancho18 (5), Kutkh (1) and Bonanzabits (3). And on the same day he became a member he sent 4 merits to be.open.

Bonanzabits

Between this and then:
-  After 9 months of bounty in different signature campaigns, with 5 accounts (3 member and 2 Full member) - real profit is 1500 bucks, the rest is shit tokens.. I don't know what's next, will go to growth or will not - don't know, will hold, there is nothing more to do. I hope you have a more interesting picture.. Sorry for the nagging, but I'm upset.. I'm not discouraged, I will continue to work of course, but the ass burns as hell.  Undecided
http://archive.md/8igFv

Look at the pages Prod, Kutkh and Bonanzabits and see, that they are decorated in one style on 100%:
 http://archive.md/4f6qm  http://archive.md/jT1AL  http://archive.md/rcEFC

Besides
Prod:
Date Registered:   November 26, 2017, 03:11:43 PM
Last Active:   November 07, 2018, 05:34:14 PM
Kutkh:
Date Registered:   November 26, 2017, 04:09:31 PM
Last Active:   November 07, 2018, 05:36:15 PM

The pages contain ETH addresses. And it’s clear that Bonanzabits from his address 0xBE96A5d1aD23142e7Ed0b25fe28C4478B7318170 sent ETH to Kutkh 0xEB82E662bAfdab04A6190E8daF6995c5188C9C28 https://etherscan.io/tx/0x3b21f8c54c50ce30e57dbf8a8f69a5351d44d3c7db56495a9c84a959478c8f61

Bonanzabits did not send ETH to Prod, but he sent him merits.

be.open answer:

~I do not have and never had access to these accounts (Prod, Kutkh и Bonanzabits), but I know whose they are and this is my good friend, thanks to the advice of which I myself came to the crypto. But he ended up on the forum later than me, and as a token of gratitude I helped to start a forum career (so he calls pumping botfarm by merits - clarification from KTChampions) for him and asked Sancho to help him a little. ~


~By the way, here are two campaigns where be.open and his friend bot owner Bonanzabits participated together:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18VGKXNLd-XH8QA4o24tEtbnbKqdgfrZ-73xmSvGpxR0/edit#gid=1415290917
#414 и 419
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vXJNIQAc4tRHQaUcdaKrcPObS_gK3frz9kGnxdmwALQ/edit#gid=450365382
#7 и 16

And a little more about honesty:

~
Did you have to go through KYC ?
I did not go through KYC, and I am not going to do it, but if I have to, I will use other people's IDs. IMHO, it’s worthless for a cryptanarchist to do a KYC ...  Roll Eyes

five accs (3 member and 2 Full member)

stunned, here i get tired of working with one .. but 5!
Well this is how much you have to post
about 100 posts per week.

And finally:

Topic Election of an additional moderator
Quote from: Bonanzabits
Here is an ideological and active person. I learned a lot from him. Suggest him, maybe he will agree ..  Roll Eyes
be.open

I can’t know how many people are behind these five accounts, but the fact is that they are all connected and engaged in shady / fraudulent activities.

These are not isolated errors. This is a systematic violation of forum rules and deception of other users.

Now that I have a bit more time, I'll share my opinion on this thread.

Cheating  [BOUNTY]🔶Crowd Genie🔶 campaign
How did he/they cheat the bounty? In the thread, I don't see any limitations on the number of accounts anyone can use. It may be unethical, but I don't think it's against the rules.
I have a hard time believing any Bounty thread that promised $1,000 in their made-up Token per week, and since they thrive on spam, I don't think they even mind if someone joins with more than one account.

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3 | Twitter accounts must be original. Fake, dead, inactive and bot accounts will not be accepted.

Obviously be.open/Sancho18 have violated this rule.

Perhaps the bounty manager and the company that holds the bounty are not against it, but the rules are written clearly. The fact is that they were violated.

These are the posts:
~
I can't read it, but considering the low amount of Merit, and the fact that some of those posts were Merited by others too, I can't say this is a clear case of Merit abuse.

Father and son communicate on the forum and send merit for good messages to each other? The very idea of this seems very strange to me.

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3 | Twitter accounts must be original. Fake, dead, inactive and bot accounts will not be accepted.
Obviously be.open/Sancho18 have violated this rule.
From what I've seen, the large majority of all bounty spammers uses fake Twitter accounts that only have other bounty spammers as followers.
You are right, but all thieves steal the same way. And there are a lot of them. And this is not a reason not to punish caught thieves.

I can't read most of their posts, but based on the amount of Merit they received, they must have been contributing something to this forum. And I think we must guard against scaring off users for relatively small things.

When you have a "son" who generously sends you merits, and when you have a "friend" with a whole farm of accounts, then of course it is easier to get merits than honestly having one account.

Please read the post I quoted at the beginning of the post. It's not just "little sins."

I suggest to give this user (or these users?) the benefit of the doubt, and a chance to help improve this forum, and turn this into neutral tags.

A user with a red tag can bring benefit to this forum just like a user without a red tag. And it seems to me when we “forgive” some obvious violator, we do much more harm to the forum than good, as ordinary participants feel that there is no objectivity, but there is a hierarchical system. All users are equal, but some users are more equal than others. (c)

 
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 #51

These are not isolated errors. This is a systematic violation of forum rules and deception of other users.

Which forum rules did they violate?

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3 | Twitter accounts must be original. Fake, dead, inactive and bot accounts will not be accepted.

Obviously be.open/Sancho18 have violated this rule.

Perhaps the bounty manager and the company that holds the bounty are not against it, but the rules are written clearly. The fact is that they were violated.

Was the twitter account fake, dead, inactive, or a bot?

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October 16, 2019, 09:32:46 PM
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 #52

These are not isolated errors. This is a systematic violation of forum rules and deception of other users.

Which forum rules did they violate?

Forum rules:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

Account farmers almost always violate this rule:

Cool theme  Grin
Thanks, helpful  Smiley
Thank!
Cool idea! I will open the same in my city !!  Grin
Great idea!! But I will not give private keys  Grin
The idea of gifts in the crypto is doubtful, but mining is an interesting thing!  Wink
An interesting project, is it something like Polybius?
Quote from: Bonanzabits
Yes, the project is interesting, I would like to participate in the signature, but still low rank  Undecided

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

just "znak"
- it was posted il Ru local.

Do you want a formal answer? I gave it to you.

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3 | Twitter accounts must be original. Fake, dead, inactive and bot accounts will not be accepted.

Obviously be.open/Sancho18 have violated this rule.

Perhaps the bounty manager and the company that holds the bounty are not against it, but the rules are written clearly. The fact is that they were violated.

Was the twitter account fake, dead, inactive, or a bot?

https://twitter.com/Sancho_1_8 - fake and bot (no own tweets)
https://twitter.com/bitubuntu - fake and bot.
https://twitter.com/bonanzabits - fake and bot.
The remaining two are suspended.

 
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Do you want a formal answer? I gave it to you.

I was expecting that you would somehow substantiate the original claim but it looks like you moved the goalposts. Are we still talking about things you laid out in the OP or something else? If there are shitposts - report them to moderators. If anything, this makes it less likely that Prod, Kutkh, and Bonanzabits are be.open's alts - he's typically much more verbose.

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Last edit: October 17, 2019, 03:28:27 AM by be.open
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Now that I have a bit more time, I'll share my opinion on this thread.
...
I suggest to give this user (or these users?) the benefit of the doubt, and a chance to help improve this forum, and turn this into neutral tags.
Thank you for taking the time to look into this matter essentially. I appreciate your opinion and you helped me a lot. Tnx.

And it seems to me when we “forgive” some obvious violator, we do much more harm to the forum than good, as ordinary participants feel that there is no objectivity, but there is a hierarchical system.
They told you - there’s nothing to forgive. Your theme is essentially slander. Sancho and I are not bounty cheaters.

How did he/they cheat the bounty? In the thread, I don't see any limitations on the number of accounts anyone can use.

If anything, this makes it less likely that Prod, Kutkh, and Bonanzabits are be.open's alts - he's typically much more verbose.
You are right, I do not manage these accounts, this is not my level. In any case, this is beyond the scope of this topic, forum rules do not allow me to discuss this here (and there is nothing to discuss).

Maybe you can understand that the world does not revolve around you.
Maybe you canceled your unjust accusation? I passed the LoyceV's test, I hope this is a pretty weighty argument for you.


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 #55

Do you want a formal answer? I gave it to you.

I was expecting that you would somehow substantiate the original claim but it looks like you moved the goalposts. Are we still talking about things you laid out in the OP or something else? If there are shitposts - report them to moderators. If anything, this makes it less likely that Prod, Kutkh, and Bonanzabits are be.open's alts - he's typically much more verbose.

Fast check:

These are not isolated errors. This is a systematic violation of forum rules and deception of other users.

Which forum rules did they violate?

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3 | Twitter accounts must be original. Fake, dead, inactive and bot accounts will not be accepted.

Obviously be.open/Sancho18 have violated this rule.

Perhaps the bounty manager and the company that holds the bounty are not against it, but the rules are written clearly. The fact is that they were violated.

Was the twitter account fake, dead, inactive, or a bot?

You are asking a question on my message of october 16th. And you get the answer exactly on the material you are asking about. If something does not suit you, then be more precise in your questions.

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If anything, this makes it less likely that Prod, Kutkh, and Bonanzabits are be.open's alts - he's typically much more verbose.

be.open/Sancho18 claims that this is the farm of his friend.

 
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 #56

I was expecting that you would somehow substantiate the original claim but it looks like you moved the goalposts. Are we still talking about things you laid out in the OP or something else? If there are shitposts - report them to moderators. If anything, this makes it less likely that Prod, Kutkh, and Bonanzabits are be.open's alts - he's typically much more verbose.
I see this topic as quite warm to watch,
A little motivated for my visit to Russia.

Note:
I am not taking sides with anyone in this accusation.


However, reasons are common.?

I traveled to Russia and met @sne.su.
The conversation occurred, even though he was last active in 2018 but @ sne.su is still active.

I ask.
1. Is @ be.open your father.
No answer.
2. What number of children are @ be.open and are @ Sancho18 your sister or your sister?
No answer.


Indeed, they did not cheat in the campaign.
But have either a lot of account or brother, sister etc.

A little bit of illusion.

A little answer from @be.open's dad about @ sne.su.

Accounts Connected:

1. be.open
2. sne.su

Proof:

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2213411.msg22388557#msg22388557

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#JOIN
Bitcointalk username: sne.su
Forum rank: Member
Posts count:  178
ETH address: 0xf73b910A78B7808C2FB755668ca4C4F8138a13b5

http://archive.is/bkCOh

Bitcointalk Username: be.open
Twitter Account Link: https://twitter.com/bitubuntu
Audit Link: https://www.twitteraudit.com/bitubuntu
Followers: 2668
BTC ADDRESS: 1Fe3dEZq4qjH9o9vwTjo8y44j3idRCCz5o
ETH ADDRESS: 0xf73b910A78B7808C2FB755668ca4C4F8138a13b5

http://archive.is/J3bfw

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Hi, good job.  Smiley

It was originally just a promo account for my site https://sne.su/ with a quote from Jean Baudrillard, whose philosophical works influenced my worldview.
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The terms of that bounty don't state that alt accounts are not allowed to be used.
You know, a while ago when I was actively tagging members who had multiple linked accounts in the same bounty I actually looked at the rules of some of these bounties, and I noticed that most of them don't have rules against this.  That's kind of when I stopped tagging people for enrolling alt accounts in bounties, even though I still think it's an unsavory practice--they're gobbling up spots that could be given to other people IMO and ultimately are being very greedy.

Basically, if the bounty manager doesn't care if the same person is using multiple accounts in a single bounty, why should I or any other DT member take the time to tag them?  It's unsavory but if it isn't against the rules it isn't cheating and it's not even really dishonest.  It sure would be nice if those bounty managers did make rules prohibiting the practice, but in their eyes the more accounts they get enrolled the more advertising they get. 

The whole system is completely fucked.

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Last edit: October 17, 2019, 12:31:25 PM by be.open
 #59

The terms of that bounty don't state that alt accounts are not allowed to be used.
You know, a while ago when I was actively tagging members who had multiple linked accounts in the same bounty I actually looked at the rules of some of these bounties, and I noticed that most of them don't have rules against this.  That's kind of when I stopped tagging people for enrolling alt accounts in bounties, even though I still think it's an unsavory practice--they're gobbling up spots that could be given to other people IMO and ultimately are being very greedy.

Basically, if the bounty manager doesn't care if the same person is using multiple accounts in a single bounty, why should I or any other DT member take the time to tag them?  It's unsavory but if it isn't against the rules it isn't cheating and it's not even really dishonest.  It sure would be nice if those bounty managers did make rules prohibiting the practice, but in their eyes the more accounts they get enrolled the more advertising they get.  

The whole system is completely fucked.
You are right, I also do not encourage such a practice. In my case, it was a single episode, and the campaign did not succeed, no one received anything, so this unfortunate accident did no harm to anyone. But I rebuke myself for that case, it was a mistake, although not dramatic.

I also want to state that I tagged Sancho18’s account as belonging to my son (and asked him to tagged my as belonging to his father). Therefore, I ask you to conduct a review of the new episode regardless of Sancho18's account, I do not want my son to suffer for my mistakes. Tnx.

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October 17, 2019, 12:30:19 PM
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2. What number of children are @ be.open and are @ Sancho18 your sister or your sister?
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Hello, I am the only son of my father. At least I hope so. Smiley

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