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October 29, 2019, 12:52:57 PM
Last edit: November 06, 2019, 04:45:45 PM by mosprognoz
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I found a new altcoin project that does not have a WP and team without names (Some nicknames only) Edit: We found out that this project was developed by a well known scammer Carsen Klock. Because of that the topic header has been adited. For more information please read the whole thread.

ANN = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140514.0

Team = https://denarius.io/the-team/

Moved to scam accusations board.
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October 29, 2019, 06:25:43 PM
Last edit: November 06, 2019, 04:08:21 PM by tsaroz
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Denarius is an old project. It has a good following and support. It's supposedly a rebranding thread of the old Denarius project.
I have used and traded it, nothing to be suspicious here.
Anonymous team is not a red flag.

Edit: After some discussion and proof here and through my small research, It seems like a know scammer is associated with the project. Users should be cautious about it.



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October 29, 2019, 07:20:54 PM
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As per I can see this is decent open source project, and it is not new for sure as its domain was registered around 3 years ago.

This is there original thread which has more than 200 pages of replies, which was later shifted to the new one mentioned in the OP.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1967207.0

They even have a Whitescroll with some info about the project. And yes, anonymous team is not a problem in many crypto projects around.
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October 29, 2019, 07:54:53 PM
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Denarius is an old project. It has a good following and support. It's supposedly a rebranding thread of the old Denarius project.
I have used and traded it, nothing to be suspicious here.
Anonymous team is not a red flag.

Where did you trade it? Where is it listed? Where is the white paper?
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Anything involving Carsen Clock should be marked as a scam in my book - he's been doing this for a long time. Tongue

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October 29, 2019, 09:00:59 PM
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Where is it listed?

According to their new announcement thread, they have listed their coin on a bunch of no-name exchanges.
24hr volumes do not look particularly good on either of them, varying from $0 to $800, with southxchange having the highest number.

https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-D
https://www.southxchange.com/Market/Book/D/BTC
https://coinvex.org/market/BTC-D
https://www.altilly.com/market/D_BTC
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October 29, 2019, 09:12:08 PM
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Anything involving Carsen Clock should be marked as a scam in my book - he's been doing this for a long time. Tongue

Now that's a name that goes way back. He was involved in the Paycoin scam too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928723#msg10928723

Assured everyone that Homero Garza (currently in a federal prison somewhere in Texas) is totally not a scammer:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928990#msg10928990

So yeah, about that denarius thing... stay away from it.
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Anything involving Carsen Clock should be marked as a scam in my book - he's been doing this for a long time. Tongue

Now that's a name that goes way back. He was involved in the Paycoin scam too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928723#msg10928723

Assured everyone that Homero Garza (currently in a federal prison somewhere in Texas) is totally not a scammer:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928990#msg10928990

So yeah, about that denarius thing... stay away from it.

Oh wow, thanks for that link... COINSTAND  Roll Eyes .... such funny memories on that thread, good times indeed! ....I still miss Paul Revere's drawings.  Grin

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October 29, 2019, 10:11:59 PM
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Anything involving Carsen Clock should be marked as a scam in my book - he's been doing this for a long time. Tongue

Now that's a name that goes way back. He was involved in the Paycoin scam too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928723#msg10928723

Assured everyone that Homero Garza (currently in a federal prison somewhere in Texas) is totally not a scammer:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928990#msg10928990

So yeah, about that denarius thing... stay away from it.

After getting into a bit of Carsen Clock's history here, he surely is a very old time scammer. I could found his traces of scam attempts from around 2013. He seems to be doing this from when BTC price was around 50$.. Shocked

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387500.0

It's both interesting and sad to see him still doing the same.

I too would recommend staying away from Denarius and even other projects connected to him.

I am just dropping his original accounts profile link here. He is not active from 2017 and would surely have many alts active around but I think its worth a DT warning on this profile.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128350

Edit:

This is his self announced second account which is still active.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=860708
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Wow... A lot of information appeared suddenly. So, shell I move this thread from "Reputation" to "Scam accusations" ?
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Thank you for exposing this scammers, i have read all your post and found that Denarius is probably a scam, the team has been involved on many scams and exposed on many treads, Denarius is not listed on any reputable exchange i suggest to everybody to stay away from this scam and from those exchanges too, exchanges must be responsible for listings those scam coins.
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November 03, 2019, 11:26:40 PM
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I found a new altcoin project that does not have a WP and team without names (Some nicknames only)

ANN = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140514.0

Team = https://denarius.io/the-team/

I posted this in reputation, before we will receive developers answer. It can be moved to scam accusations if no explanation offered.

That team page is real, which has a list of everyone working on the project and here is a link to our whitepaper: https://denarius.io/whitescroll.pdf

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November 03, 2019, 11:36:08 PM
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Can confirm the team is real... and is not a "Scam" lol

Denarius is already several years old, I joined the project late 2016 i believe.

Carsen was the first to come out with Hybrid MasterNodes on a PoS / PoW hybrid algo...

Alot of great work / time has been put into this project, you can read the github commit log and go thru all the open source documentation and may want to actually do some research before screaming scam... Smiley
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November 03, 2019, 11:38:54 PM
Last edit: November 04, 2019, 01:18:32 AM by kingcarsen
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Anything involving Carsen Clock should be marked as a scam in my book - he's been doing this for a long time. Tongue

Now that's a name that goes way back. He was involved in the Paycoin scam too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928723#msg10928723

Assured everyone that Homero Garza (currently in a federal prison somewhere in Texas) is totally not a scammer:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10928990#msg10928990

So yeah, about that denarius thing... stay away from it.

After getting into a bit of Carsen Clock's history here, he surely is a very old time scammer. I could found his traces of scam attempts from around 2013. He seems to be doing this from when BTC price was around 50$.. Shocked

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387500.0

It's both interesting and sad to see him still doing the same.

I too would recommend staying away from Denarius and even other projects connected to him.

I am just dropping his original accounts profile link here. He is not active from 2017 and would surely have many alts active around but I think its worth a DT warning on this profile.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128350

Edit:

This is his self announced second account which is still active.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=860708

You guys suck at DYOR. I am not a scammer. I have been active in crypto since before 2013 and yes I worked for GAW Miners for Josh Garza, I was only a developer for the company for roughly 6 months, after that I worked at Apple full time for several years. Denarius is my current project and it is far from a scam, if you actually look at my Github, you will see I have been actively developing it for the past three years and we have tons of services and support and other projects open sourced. Denarius has the first real decentralized masternodes as well "FortunaStakes", you can read up on the Git, may help you out some.

Denarius has had a rough time with exchanges as we paid to be listed on Yobit (they just scammed us), Cryptopia we were listed on and was our main exchange until they got hacked/scammed, We were listed on CryptoBridge as well and they scammed us flat out, by wanting to charge over 0.5 BTC for a wallet update. Those are your real scammers.

Here is an article on it: https://medium.com/@carsenk/denarius-statement-about-cryptobridge-exchange-update-ea7520f4142e

The exchanges we have now for Denarius are smaller, TradeOgre has some reputation at this point as being a decent exchange and SouthXChange, the others are all fairly brand new and so time will tell with them.

Otherwise Denarius (D) is still going strong as ever, you can come checkout Denarii in our Discord chat or hangout. I am currently working on a thin mode for us where we utilize block headers to strictly sync a client off of, using roughly under ~50MB of RAM, you can checkout the current development on this under our thin branch on the official github: https://github.com/carsenk/denarius

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Denarius also has an official forum: https://denariustalk.org filled with tons of tutorials explaining to others interested in our open source tech on how to setup FortunaStakes, optimal staking, mining discussions, tutorials on ElectrumX, MiniKeys, etc.

There is a plethora of websites and applications like Coinomi that also support Denarius (D)

Also our "whitescroll" is literally right on the front page of https://denarius.io

Our team members are all real people and those are real photos of all of us. Some choose to not give out their real names publicly, I have no problem in using mine.

P.S. You guys can't even spell my name properly

P.S.S. Seriously DYOR better before you make shit threads like this about someone's name.


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November 04, 2019, 12:30:57 AM
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Denarius is almost three years old. If it was a scam, it would have been abandoned a long time ago. 
Don’t you think? Think about that. 
Check the github and you will see that this coin has a very active development and team.
I remember that when I was researching BTC in early 2017, I was put off because many financial institutions and well known financial gurus  said the same thing about BTC. It initially deterred me and cost me $$$. 
So if you want to call Denarius a scam. Go ahead.  Time will prove the haters wrong. Haters always going to hate.
 
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wow thanks so much for bringing my attention to a top crypto in the making...while youre calling it a scam, ill start topping up.

thanks kindly
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Carsen. If you think I'm going to dredge up every shit coin scam thread that you ever created for other scammers on here and elsewhere for BTC - Feel free. I will do so once I am taking a big shit in the morning. Grin

Btw - Don't be a cunt.  Grin

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Carsen. If you think I'm going to dredge up every shit coin scam thread that you ever created for other scammers on here and elsewhere for BTC - Feel free. I will do so once I am taking a big shit in the morning. Grin

Btw - Don't be a cunt.  Grin

It is amusing to me that you didn't even read anything posted above.

Haha, you can if you want. Waste your time, creating cryptos back years and years ago and people talking about me like they are obsessed, doesn't make me a scammer. I run a large community of people with Denarius and a lot of them have been here since day one and are aware of my past, so if you think you are giving them new information, you are wrong. They have all been at my side for the past almost three years now, I have never once let anyone down. I literally made Denarius (D) to show all you haters up.

You should probably research Denarius (D) some before you keep digging yourself a hole. lol.

P.S. - Don't be a cunt x2.  Wink Roll Eyes


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people talking about me like they are obsessed, doesn't make me a scammer

Nobody's really "obsessed" with you, I doubt anyone even remembers you until your name pops up again in one of those scams.

But thanks for stopping by and reminding us what a douche canoe you are. See you in 5 years.

So if you want to call Denarius a scam. Go ahead.  Time will prove the haters wrong. Haters always going to hate.

Don't flatter yourself. There is nothing to hate. This shitcoin is dead, no trading volume to speak of, down 99%+ from ATH, and it has nothing to offer that hundreds of other shitcoins couldn't do.
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November 04, 2019, 02:04:43 AM
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I found a new altcoin project that does not have a WP and team without names (Some nicknames only)

ANN = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140514.0

Team = https://denarius.io/the-team/

I posted this in reputation, before we will receive developers answer. It can be moved to scam accusations if no explanation offered.

For a guy who makes mostly scam accusation topics and looking into various topics about equality and fairness I find it hard to believe u even took the time to properly look at the Denarius project besides tumbling over the dev's name... Even dared to call it a new coin, this thing here is almost 3 years old and going, what sewage spewed you out under the trollbridge?

How about you DYOR on Denarius (D)
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Thanks, just topped up more Denarius. Keep the shit posting coming, its giving Denarius the attention it deserves and soon will be x1000
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November 04, 2019, 02:16:16 AM
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people talking about me like they are obsessed, doesn't make me a scammer

Nobody's really "obsessed" with you, I doubt anyone even remembers you until your name pops up again in one of those scams.

But thanks for stopping by and reminding us what a douche canoe you are. See you in 5 years.

So if you want to call Denarius a scam. Go ahead.  Time will prove the haters wrong. Haters always going to hate.

Don't flatter yourself. There is nothing to hate. This shitcoin is dead, no trading volume to speak of, down 99%+ from ATH, and it has nothing to offer that hundreds of other shitcoins couldn't do.

Bruh, at least go look at the code, go check out the Discord, the forums, etc. it is far from dead, I literally just pushed an update a few weeks back that included us in the Snap store on ALL Linux distros: https://snapcraft.io/denarius there is literally no other coin that has that officially and officially built from the master branch of the official repository. We were also the first hybrid cryptocurrency with fully decentralized masternodes (FortunaStakes).

https://themerkle.com/new-decentralized-fair-payment-system-for-masternodes/

Seriously, people like you just make yourselves look bad and pathetic, like what is your game? You trying to get Denarius (D) cheaper for your own profits and then start talking kindly about me? Are you just that sad of a person that you have to go around hating on people on the internet that you think you know, while looking extremely ignorant?

 Grin Grin Grin This guy lmao.

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OWL, im exposing your shadiness and total lies on twitter.

oh wait

i already did
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Oh wow, thanks for that link... COINSTAND  Roll Eyes .... such funny memories on that thread, good times indeed! ....I still miss Paul Revere's drawings.  Grin
LOL, I had to take a look at that thread and I hadn't heard of GAW in a few years.  Interestingly (for me), that thread is from right after I registered here, March 2015.  It almost seems like a different world now, at least in crypto.

You trying to get Denarius (D) cheaper for your own profits and then start talking kindly about me?
Doubt it.  It sounds like OP ignored some things, but I think his intentions were pure.

This isn't a new issue or a new coin, right?  I've been seeing stuff about denarius for quite some time if I'm not mistaken.  Altcoins really aren't my thing but I've seen the name floating around on the forum.

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Oh wow, thanks for that link... COINSTAND  Roll Eyes .... such funny memories on that thread, good times indeed! ....I still miss Paul Revere's drawings.  Grin
LOL, I had to take a look at that thread and I hadn't heard of GAW in a few years.  Interestingly (for me), that thread is from right after I registered here, March 2015.  It almost seems like a different world now, at least in crypto.

You trying to get Denarius (D) cheaper for your own profits and then start talking kindly about me?
Doubt it.  It sounds like OP ignored some things, but I think his intentions were pure.

This isn't a new issue or a new coin, right?  I've been seeing stuff about denarius for quite some time if I'm not mistaken.  Altcoins really aren't my thing but I've seen the name floating around on the forum.

No, these haters came out of nowhere randomly is why I asked that question. Denarius was ninja launched on 6/14/2017, no ICO or funding, so about two and half years ago.....lol
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There have been multiple times the developer could have exit scammed, but he stayed on a developed consistently. From ATH of $5 or so, now to 8c (down like the rest of the market) it would have been easy for him to quit and start somethin new, be he didnt. hes still here.

Those Legendary status guys who are hating on him. Grow a set and man up.

The fact youre sitting behind your screen bashing on a guy working his ass off shows me you are afraid its going to take off and doing whatever you can to bring it down.\

Keep trying because you'll fail miserably, youre just bringing Denarius attention.

So thankyou kindly
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A nearly 3 year old coin with active development is a scam? Whatever carsen did in the past is not what is going on here. Though his experience level is showing as he keeps trying new things while the other coins die that were released around 2017-2018. Check out his github and see this isn't a straight copy pasta bitcoin fork.

Denarius has been offered to go to a bunch of random chinese exchanges that wash their volume, but no one in the community wanted that. Low daily volume is what it is, doesn't really matter if he keeps dev'ing. The thin mode sounds unique enough to me. A no other coins have the fair payment system as its not a copy paste of DASH masternodes.

I get the past scam stuff, but take a quick look at what carsen has been doing over the last 2 years.
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I'm not a crypto vet, haven't been around these parts nearly as long as most of all of the people posting on this thread.  So, I can't necessarily offer the perspective of along history with Denarius or crypto in general.

What I can say is that, being a newb, I've bitten on the hook of several scams unfortunately.  And Denarius is like none of those.  I discovered it a couple of months ago, and was struck by the level of engagement and openness that Carsen has in the discord, the level of continued development, and smart, passionate supporters that are contributing to the project and community.  That is a lot different than the several faceless, anonymous, money pandering scamcoins I've seen, with devs disappearing once pre-mine or ICO or donation funds have reached their fancy, or dumping their huge hordes of coins on exchanges and pocketing the BTC while leaving the price at virtually zero for the true investors.

Granted, I'm not the tech savvy dude that's gonna read the github and compare the code to other projects.  Just can say that this is definitely not an abandoned project, and it is garnering new interest.  It's passed the smell test for me as being legit.  And so, I'd have to imagine it's definitely worth looking more deeply in before calling it a scam, cause it's not like any scams I've seen.

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where did everyone go?
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where did everyone go?

My thoughts exactly. lol, they are all trying to come up with better trolling tactics.
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One of the most active communities around. Great Project.
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Denarius is not a scam and is not a "team without names."  Carsen is a great (ok amazing) coder. He's also nice, and always able to take a minute to help another guy out.  Join discord and you'll see. 
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come on mods, stop deleting responses from the team on here.
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What responses from the team are getting deleted on this thread?  Now that’s shady and scammy.
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The OP seriously didnt do his research on this one. Denarius is one of the great projects out there with constant development unlike some other 'Top' coins out there.
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Respectable forum members are saying that the developer is an old scammer !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg52920767#msg52920767

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg52920939#msg52920939

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg52921319#msg52921319

And here are the trust page of kingcarsen and the trading volumes of Denarius

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=860708

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/denarius-dnr/


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You my friend are a true muppet. So do you also believe Trump, Kim Jung-Un, Putin, Macron, Merkel, Johnson because they are "respectable aka well-known" members saying bullshit daily?

Those posts u refer to are this topic, people of the forum accusing Carsen of scams. Do your research properly and look for what these scam accusations are made of and you will see that he isn't a scammer.

Also if u believe that massive volumes are a sign that a coin is legit or not I have news for you my friend. The biggest scam coins I have come across the last years had a very big inflated trading volume running into the millions if not billions on 24h basis. Only to be dumped into oblivion by the devs who had a hefty premine or sold alot of coins before main net even launched. If you would take your time to research Carsen and Denarius yourself rather than listening to people on a forum telling you how to think and behave you would have come to the conclusion that Denarius and Carsen are legit. But you rather believe what you want to believe don't you? Grow up, do your own research and after that be a man and apologize for your mistakes. Right now you look and sound like a stubborn kid who didn't get his popsicle.



Besides that I've also seen people in here calling Denarisu a scamcoin because it's not listed on a well known exchange? While I see those same persons aknowledging the issue that these "well-known" exchanges ask exuberant prices to get listed going from 100k to 2.5 million dollars to get listed. Any normal coin who didn't make a hefty premine, presale of coins or MN's or big donators isn't able to list on the biggest exchanges. Only if those big exchanges take them in for free they might get listed there.

The scam ICO's and what not who raise this kind of money are the reason those "well-known" exchanges have started asking these rediculous prices. Because the real scamcoins could generate such income and pay the listing fees. After that the exchange got alot of money from the P&D going on on their exchange as well. So all this accusations flying around here are being done with doiuble standards. What is right for one coins is wrong for another according to these guys calling Denarius a scamcoin.

The cryptosphere has been polluted with a ton of shitcoins and projects that had only the intend to get the devs rich as quick as possible. For this project you are targetting right now which is reaching it's 3rd year of active development of the same lead dev (Carsen) who you accuse of being a guy who only makes scamcoins to do P&D's I find it hard to believe that would be the case.
Also the volume I already mention in my previous post as being normal for the coin that it is, not listed on big exchanges, not being manipulated to show fake volume or prices, but for you guys who are blinded by $$-signs and probably made money of shitty ICO's it's hard to understand there are microcap coins with active development and communities out there.

Also that 90% of the price is gone argument one of the dissers spewed in here is rediculous. Look at CMC and you will see ALOT of coins have lost 90% of their value since last bullrun. Mostly the tokens, 'coins' and eth stuff that isn't mineable kept a share of it's value, why? Because those are the real scammy coins out there, the ones who aren't developed anymore or where the devs already cashed out a big percentage of their heavy premine. Those shitcoins are being maintained by P&D's and fake volume on the "well-known" super expensive to list exchanges.

Dissing smaller coins on nearly unknown exchanges who don't generate billions of volume daily and happen to have a dev who has been in projects in the past that went down is a lowlife thing to do. If Carsen was a scammer and was gonna scam everyone on Denarius out of their money he would have done so already back in the first months of the project.

Heck this coin even has MN's that weren't sold by the dev, the MN reward is only 33% of a mined block or POS reward. Of which POS is only 6% annually. Yet every other scamcoin who has sold their MN's in presale, that have 80% MN rewards and a POS of 6000% annually are not on your "scamradar" because they generate a million dollars in volume daily on Binance for example. Get the cowdung out of your eyes and use your peanutbrain before you make another dispost about a coin that isn't a shitcoin.

How about you DYOR on Denarius (D)
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B.S.

Coin developer and supporters tagged. Thread moved to scam accusations board.
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B.S.

Coin developer and supporters tagged. Thread moved to scam accusations board.
Oh yeah right I forgot, it's almost 2020 and comments with sense are being labeled as B.S. or fake news... Whilst the fake news the OP spreads has to be indoctrinated as being true. No point in having a discussion with a narrow minded sheep who only sees what he wants to see. I wonder how long it will take before you're gonna namecall us as alts and paid shills, members of the team are here to answer your questions and give context to the accusations u try to pin on Carsen. But u persist in believing your own constructed "truth". Why did u put this on a "forum" if you are not interested in have a dialogue anyway? Don't use bitcointalk as your personal blog, it isn't.


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So I see you gave me negative rep with your assumption I'm an alt of Carsen and that I support scam projects ... I hope you get what you deserve soon, I'll take this to the mods because now you attacked me personally as well. If I encounter a scam I will report it as well, but now you are accusing me of supporting this kind of behaviour AND you already were attacking Carsen and the Denarius project as a whole I'll make it my personal vendetta to make sure you are being exposed for this behaviour.

You can not just throw around accusations like this and not back them up with facts, the only thing you present us is other people from this forum giving Carsen bad rep as a fact that he is a scammer? Yet when context and answers are provided you ignore them and just keep posting your fabricated lies. You probably have been accusing alot of projects like this, alot probably were scams but the ones that weren't you also damaged in the process. If you did some research on Denarius and seen the frequent updates and other activities around Denarius itself you wouldn't have started this topic at all. Just the fact u say it has no whitepaper in the OP and the entire team is anon makes it a scam? You didn't even get passed the Team page and just assumed it was a new coin while it was already 2,5 years old.

How can any mod take this thread and these guys serious? Why has it even been moved to this topic and not even locked yet. When I report a continious proven scam that has spread over 3 or 4 coins in the peroid of just one year I get a reply in the sense of: We can not lock or investigate each scam accusation, therefor we can not lock or ban the topic. Yet when some guys who have been spamming this forum with their idiocy more than others, they are seen as 'reputable members of bitcointalk' and are 'believed' when calling a project or person a scam? Get your facts straight and learn to use your eyes and brains at the same time so you comprehend what is being displayed in front of you.

How about you DYOR on Denarius (D)
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B.S.

Here is the list of dudes who trusts your alt, friend, boss, whoever...kingcarsen Very respectable people... Just look at their trust score.

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am I really getting negative rep because someone thinks I am an alt of carsen? please keep bumping this with more accusations.
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Same here. Also -1 tagged. Mods where are you now. Should we all give him a -1 Rep too for false accusations.
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I will bet $1 million USD I am not carsen, since you guys seems so sure about this nonsense. Prove it.
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Same here. Also -1 tagged. Mods where are you now. Should we all give him a -1 Rep too for false accusations.

Thank you for reminding me. I forget to tag you as a scammer's supporter and advocate.
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B.S.

Here is the list of dudes who trusts your alt, friend, boss, whoever...kingcarsen Very respectable people... Just look at their trust score.

Are you going to reply to the stuff I presented you earlier or are you gonna keep referencing the trust scores as your value for proving something is a scam or not? Reply to the facts presented to you and stop staring at those damn trust scores. If I check the people who gave you a postive trust score they also received one from you. And for being such and active scamhunter most of your trustscores come from fellow scam hunters. I gave you a bad rep for accusing me of something I am not and for keeping up your stubborn attitude of not willing to discuss facts and evidence presented to you on your false accusations.

All you and your scamhunters are doing is amplifying eachother, taking your buddies words for granted and when someone throws at a scam accusation it must be true according to you. Do your own research when you accuse someone of something. All I had to do was literally type into google: Denarius whitepaper and voila, first result is what you claim isn't there.

Anon team? is BTC a scam than? Lead dev's name is known, Carsen Klock, nobody hiding it unless hiding in plain sight is hiding according to you.

Previous "scams" he was involved with in the links provided on the first page are being debunked in the very same topic, on the same page, things are rectified within your own proof shown.

Some people just don't see the difference between when he was working for people back in the days and not in charge over whether a project was terminated or continued vs nowadays when he's running Denarius by himself where he has full responsibility. Even for the vape website someone provided as proof of a scam he still tried to reach out to the guy who felt scammed, the situation is explained there.

He has an active twitter profile under his own name, same goes for Denarius coin, both accounts visible to public and if Carsen did so much wrong in the past against so many people I wonder why there aren't more people like you (OP) who are complaining on his personal twitter daily to get refunds for these scams you want to pin on him?



Seems to me you and your scamhunter buddies should stop blaming the entire cryptosphere of being a scam and seriously start investigating things before bringing out false accusations that will hurt projects that haven't scammed anyone. There probably is a reason why you guys have to fall back on your trust and rep scores to fool yourself in to thinking you are policing this forum. Yet it is the same reason you guys are just that and not moderators. If you have to go call eachother "well respected members" of the community by putting that as a title in the trust page of you and your buddies I put you in the same narcistic category as Orange Man. Yet I know that my wall of text will just be overread and quoted as B.S. by OP because once you throw reasoning into a discussion with an Orange Man it becomes senseless and futile.

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November 04, 2019, 04:53:21 PM
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Its much more interesting reading from the older accounts who were around when crypto was the wild west. Fast forward to 2017 and now there is a dev who learned a lot from that madness and putting it all into denarius for the last 2.5 years. People can change over time, for the better. Which I think is what Carsen did.
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Anon team? is BTC a scam than? Lead dev's name is known, Carsen Klock, nobody hiding it unless hiding in plain sight is hiding according to you.

Now you are comparing Denarius to BTC? Carsen is a well known scammer. Check his trust page.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=860708

You are supporting and advocating him. That's why I tagged him, you and other of his supporters.
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November 04, 2019, 05:04:19 PM
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Anon team? is BTC a scam than? Lead dev's name is known, Carsen Klock, nobody hiding it unless hiding in plain sight is hiding according to you.

Now you are comparing Denarius to BTC? Carsen is a well known scammer. Check his trust page.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=860708

You are supporting and advocating him. That's why I tagged him, you and other of his supporters.
Hey congratulations u managed to read a part of my text, sadly you just cherrypicked something to turn a question into a question ... How Orange Man like. Also you and your wannabe-police-buddies are gonna regret it very soon that they crossed swords with Denarius. I would stand by you if you were correct on your accusations, but now you declared war. Yes you are the Orange Man who will get into war. No need for dumb narcistic people to spew even more hate and idiocy into this world.

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Anyone reading this at least look at the github -> https://github.com/carsenk/denarius

Check out master, v3.4, i2p, and thin branches. While you're at it compare the Denarius fortunastake (masternode) source code to DASH and tell me what you see. This isn't some fly by night 2013 crypto.
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Nobody is perfect. We all have a past. We all have made major mistakes at some point in time. But, it’s the now that defines who we are today. We are all in crypto because we believe in it. Some of us help others anyway we can, while others just want to hate.  Anything can be called a SCAM. It’s an accusation. You either believe it or you don’t. How many times has BTC been called a SCAM?

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Also you and your wannabe-police-buddies are gonna regret it very soon that they crossed swords with Denarius.

Quoted as a threat on bitcointalk DT members.

I am not planing spending my already very limited time on conversation with people who support a well known scammer and his scammy projects. The conversation is OVER.
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I also started to make a guide how to browse github since Litecoin was also being called a scam since they don't dev in their master branch. btw you don't dev in the master branch.

https://denariustalk.org/index.php?/topic/303-how-to-browse-through-github-for-cryptocurrencies/
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Its like believing Peter Schiff that calls BTC a scam. Do you believe him ? Of course not
I stole a candy when i was a little kid that makes me a Criminal or a scammer ?
Food for thought for who has a brain these days
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I don't see bitcoin autobuilding their snap QT and daemon from github. But Denarius does and its open for everyone to see, unlike bitcoin. https://github.com/carsenk/denarius/blob/master/snapcraft.yaml Yet another custom thing with how this snap works.
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Also you and your wannabe-police-buddies are gonna regret it very soon that they crossed swords with Denarius.

Quoted as a threat on bitcointalk DT members.

I am not planing spending my already very limited time on conversation with people who support a well known scammer and his scammy projects. The conversation is OVER.
If you really think this is a physical threat to you it's time to go to the looneybin Orange Man ... calling this a threat Cheesy you like throwing around negative rep like there is no tomorrow, you think this goes without consequences? False accusations, giving bad rep based on your false accusations. You aren't okay in the head. But yeah conversation is over, you're right about that one for once!

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Also you and your wannabe-police-buddies are gonna regret it very soon that they crossed swords with Denarius.

Quoted as a threat on bitcointalk DT members.

I am not planing spending my already very limited time on conversation with people who support a well known scammer and his scammy projects. The conversation is OVER.

Why start a thread and give -1 rep to Carsen and his supporters if you don’t want to discuss it.

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Also you and your wannabe-police-buddies are gonna regret it very soon that they crossed swords with Denarius.

Quoted as a threat on bitcointalk DT members.

I am not planing spending my already very limited time on conversation with people who support a well known scammer and his scammy projects. The conversation is OVER.

Why start a thread and give -1 rep to Carsen and his supporters if you don’t want to discuss it.



You see the "CONVERSATION" he had took place in his had, discussing this in public would make him look even worse. The fact he even states that the conversation with me is over while he never really had one says enough about his mental state. For me it was a monologue while he believes the dialogue he had with me was actually with himself. Hard to grasp, but yea, Orange Man are like that.

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join the Denarius discord https://discord.gg/JQEmXwb and chat with carsen yourself in general chat
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Same here. Also -1 tagged. Mods where are you now. Should we all give him a -1 Rep too for false accusations.

Thank you for reminding me. I forget to tag you as a scammer's supporter and advocate.

Since you love giving -1 reps to anyone/anything associated with Carsen,
well you forgot a few.
Carsen also created the following algorithms.
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Get busy with -1 reps. 
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B.S.

Coin developer and supporters tagged. Thread moved to scam accusations board.

Hey look I can quote your posts to and say literally nothing of importance. This guy is trying so so so hard to get even cheaper coins, this is quite amusing.



Anon team? is BTC a scam than? Lead dev's name is known, Carsen Klock, nobody hiding it unless hiding in plain sight is hiding according to you.

Now you are comparing Denarius to BTC? Carsen is a well known scammer. Check his trust page.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=860708

You are supporting and advocating him. That's why I tagged him, you and other of his supporters.

You do understand that is is actually a crime and illegal to cause defamation to someone's name....

Same here. Also -1 tagged. Mods where are you now. Should we all give him a -1 Rep too for false accusations.

Thank you for reminding me. I forget to tag you as a scammer's supporter and advocate.

Since you love giving -1 reps to anyone/anything associated with Carsen,
well you forgot a few.
Carsen also created the following algorithms.
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Get busy with -1 reps. 

Yea lmao, how many people would that be? Like 90% of people on this forum?  Grin






Also you and your wannabe-police-buddies are gonna regret it very soon that they crossed swords with Denarius.

Quoted as a threat on bitcointalk DT members.

I am not planing spending my already very limited time on conversation with people who support a well known scammer and his scammy projects. The conversation is OVER.

You know its funny, you post fake shit too? I have tons of positive ratings, this forum has a fundamental problem with their rating system, they allow anyone to just negative anyone without any proof or interaction with that person at all. You literally have tons of people spelling it out to you that I am not a scammer.

My rep here:



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Lets not forget older people know carsen was on darkcoin at some point, so you are also now calling DASH out. Carsen also made one of the most used early Ethereum explorers, so also calling ETH out. Are we gonna go down the list of the big coins Carsen has had a hand in too?



A good way to protect yourself from scummy people like the OP, learn how to compile your own wallets. An easy way to do this is by setting up vmplayer or virtualbox and installing ubuntu or any linux distro.

Here is a good starting point which you can plug and chug your favorite crypto into. At least get your info from the source, unlike OP making some really cheesey accusations and trying to ruins peoples reputations.
https://denariustalk.org/index.php?/topic/268-steps-to-compile-wallet-ubuntu/
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Hey Carsen, are these two accounts yours?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128350
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

Would you like to share with us why you're not using them anymore?
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To any mods with a quick trigger, dont start deleting posts of us trying to defend ourselves from fake false and monetarily hurting accusations.

In order to protect myself more I can even go to a tutorial on how to compile a Windows QT wallet so I don't have to rely on others and get my wallets from the source. Unlike OP who just makes things up.

https://denariustalk.org/index.php?/topic/306-how-to-compile-denarius-qt-for-windows/
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Hey Carsen, are these two accounts yours?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128350
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

Would you like to share with us why you're not using them anymore?

Sure, Bitcointalk/Theymos locked me out of them. Literally says "Account Locked." When I try to login. So I made this one, I have been using this account for the past three years almost now.
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Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

How about you DYOR on Denarius (D)
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Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

I have a bunch untrusted feedback's from scammers like you. They are not visible by default. Only DT members feedback's are visible for everyone. (Anyone can see my neg feedback in your profile, because I am DT2 member.) So your shitty feedback's  are not worth anything. Log out and check yourself from your dozens of alt accounts. 
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Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

Have another neg there scammer.  Grin

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I changed the header of the topic. I am sure Carsen is gonna like it.
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Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

I have a bunch untrusted feedback's from scammers like you. They are not visible by default. Only DT members feedback's are visible for everyone. (Anyone can see my neg feedback in your profile, because I am DT2 member.) So your shitty feedback's  are not worth anything. Log out and check yourself from your dozens of alt accounts. 
I'm still waiting for moderators to reply to my complaints about you and this topic. The only thing you care about is your own vision on things while ignoring the facts and contexts provided to you. You falsely give people negative rep, you falsely accuse Denarius coin and developer of being a scam and a fraud without backing it up even to this day. All you keep referring to are old trust posts, claims of everyone here taking it up for Denarius being an alt of Carsen and you have your "police-buddies" with you to back up your shitposting. If this is allowed than I sure hope that someoen find out your real name and address so they can actually press charges against your behaviour.

There is nothing wrong with hunting for scams, I support it, but the way you do it by just randomly shooting at projects and hoping some of them get hit who actually are scams is the wrong way of fighting scams. There should not be any collateral damage done by your actions against scams. If people provide u with evidence that a project is legit, being developed and not a scam you just walk over the evidence as if it wasn't there and ignore it and keep telling blatent lies about it. This is behaviour that if continued is also an offense in itself. You are deliberately sending out a fake scam accusation without looking at evidence provided. The fact u don't even have evidence for the very first post you make and keep lying about it is just plain old stupid and rediculous.

So yet again, admit your mistake, be man not a boy and if an admin or mod is reading this: Please look into this bunch of wannabe-police-guys because they are causing harm to honest projects while in their heads they think they are doing a right thing, slap them on the wrist or show them that it's not ok to behave like this.

Edit: just so you know, my negative feedback is Trusted, so your -1 is showing, but hey I'm just an alt account huh?



Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

Have another neg there scammer.  Grin
Yea keep up that rhetoric.

I'll pay a nice finders fee to the person who is able to find real life information about owlcatz and mosprognoz so we are at least able to confront them with their actions. Being keyboard warriors and acting like you own the place while your accusations are based on other accusations without providing proper evidence is just as bad as actually scamming people imo. You and your wannabe police buddies are harming Denarius and Carsen Klock in this case while you aren't even willing to discuss anything presented to you that says you are wrong.

Go cry to the mods about me asking people to doxx your sorry asses, you've asked for it. And no, I'm no longer accepting apologies nor do I ask you to remove this topic, I will eventually find out who you and your buddies are. So go ahead with your trolling and childish behaviour, you'll cry for it later.

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Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

Have another neg there scammer.  Grin
Yea keep up that rhetoric.

I'll pay a nice finders fee to the person who is able to find real life information about owlcatz and mosprognoz so we are at least able to confront them with their actions. Being keyboard warriors and acting like you own the place while your accusations are based on other accusations without providing proper evidence is just as bad as actually scamming people imo. You and your wannabe police buddies are harming Denarius and Carsen Klock in this case while you aren't even willing to discuss anything presented to you that says you are wrong.

Go cry to the mods about me asking people to doxx your sorry asses, you've asked for it. And no, I'm no longer accepting apologies nor do I ask you to remove this topic, I will eventually find out who you and your buddies are. So go ahead with your trolling and childish behaviour, you'll cry for it later.

Wah. I don't hide, my info is publicly available... So Fuck off Carsen.  Grin

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Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

Have another neg there scammer.  Grin
Yea keep up that rhetoric.

I'll pay a nice finders fee to the person who is able to find real life information about owlcatz and mosprognoz so we are at least able to confront them with their actions. Being keyboard warriors and acting like you own the place while your accusations are based on other accusations without providing proper evidence is just as bad as actually scamming people imo. You and your wannabe police buddies are harming Denarius and Carsen Klock in this case while you aren't even willing to discuss anything presented to you that says you are wrong.

Go cry to the mods about me asking people to doxx your sorry asses, you've asked for it. And no, I'm no longer accepting apologies nor do I ask you to remove this topic, I will eventually find out who you and your buddies are. So go ahead with your trolling and childish behaviour, you'll cry for it later.

Wah. I don't hide, my info is publicly available... So Fuck off Carsen.  Grin
Than send it to me in DM if you're so confident about your claims, if you know you are right you should be fine taking it to court.

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Edt: just so you know, my negative feedback is Trusted, so your -1 is showing, but hey I'm just an alt account huh ?

Dude, it's visible as "trusted" only from your or Carsen's profile, because you are on his trust list. (Another confirmation that you are his alt account) For any regural user it is "untrusted" and not visible feedback. But your feedbacks are visible for anyone since you were tagged by DT members. I am really tired of your shitposting, so the best you can do is, follow owlcatz suggestion and fuck yourself up your scammy ass.
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I'm still waiting for moderators to reply to my complaints about you and this topic.

You're gonna be waiting for a very long time. Here's the bottom line: you don't give enough of a shit about this forum to even read the rules but you're demanding admins to silence your critics and everyone to just stop saying how shitty your shitcoin is. Not likely to happen.
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Edt: just so you know, my negative feedback is Trusted, so your -1 is showing, but hey I'm just an alt account huh ?

Dude, it's visible as "trusted" only from your or Carsen's profile, because you are on his trust list. (Another confirmation that you are his alt account) For any regural user it is "untrusted" and not visible feedback. But your feedbacks are visible for anyone since you were tagged by DT members. I am really tired of your shitposting, so the best you can do is, follow owlcatz suggestion and fuck yourself up your scammy ass.

You were saying?





I'm still waiting for moderators to reply to my complaints about you and this topic.

You're gonna be waiting for a very long time. Here's the bottom line: you don't give enough of a shit about this forum to even read the rules but you're demanding admins to silence your critics and everyone to just stop saying how shitty your shitcoin is. Not likely to happen.
There's a difference between silencing real critics and trying to rectify what you guys are trying to achieve, pinning the word scam to Denarius without providing any proof and dancing around anything we say just to avoid saying that you are wrong. If that is not someting to take up to the mods of this forum than there shouldn't be any mods around at all.

How about you DYOR on Denarius (D)
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You were saying?

Just logout and login with any profile that does not have custom trust list and check again you fucking idiot.

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You were saying?

Just logout and login with any profile that does not have custom trust list and check again you fucking idiot.

I have only one account and yet again, your claim of me and carsen being on eachothers trust list and thus seeing it as trusted from eachother doesn't hold up. But yea let's ignore that again shall we.

How is this first post of yours still valid actually?

Stating that the project has a team without names while the lead dev and founder is known from the start being Carsen.
The others on the team are not in charge for anything and can't run away with any funds or scam the users, they use their real life pictures so in some way or another they will be trackable if they do something wrong.

Explanations from the developer have been given but have been rejected and denied in all tongues. Why put this in your OP if you are just here to trashtalk and not discuss it anyway? You had your judgement ready before you even typed in the title.



Secondly, you claim it has no whitepaper. This one clearly shows how much investigation you actually did before starting this thread to claim Denarius is a scammy project.
All you had to do was go to google, type in: denarius whitepaper, hit enter and voila first result shows you the link to the whitepaper with a date being 22nd July 2017! This can't be faked afterwords, anyone reading this post can just go to google and do the same thing and get the same result.



This topic already degenerated from a scam accusation to mud throwing from even you guys, the self proclaimed respectable members of the bitcointalk community. All this I read from you and your other high horse riders comes down to Inspector Gadget like investigations. For those scams you did tackle it's pretty obvious, shoot at everything and everyone and by that you will also have hit the bad guys ... Bitches please, sit down!

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How is this first post of yours still valid actually? Stating that the project has a team without names while the lead dev and founder is known from the start being Carsen.

Thank you for reminding me. I edited the first post and the topic header. Now everything looks fine.
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How is this first post of yours still valid actually? Stating that the project has a team without names while the lead dev and founder is known from the start being Carsen.

Thank you for reminding me. I edited the first post and the topic header. Now everything looks fine.

Man I sure hope moderators are able to read all about this because you are just trolling or a disgrace for the DT2 members. You and your buddies.



a new altcoin:
Coin is almost 3 years old...

does not have a WP:
Shown in previous posts, whitepaper can be found easily and is available since 2017.

team without names:
Founder Lead Dev has always been Carsen Klock if you would have found the whitepaper to begin with. Other team members are using nicks with real life pictures and are not in a position to scam anyone.

We found out ...
You already knew Carsen was on this coin else you wouldn't have started the thread in the first place

Moved to scam accusations board.
It's been here since a couple of days, bit tardy no?

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And yet again, you do not reply to any content I provide you, only namecalling and obvious trollposts. How can you and your posse be well respected members of this community if you are behaving like the biggest pricks I have encounterd online this year? Even the stuff you do reply to is cherrypicking, you don't even get passed the first few lines of a little bit of text, this is what's keeping us safe from real scams?

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Than send it to me in DM if you're so confident about your claims, if you know you are right you should be fine taking it to court.

Hahaha! That's hilarious! Do your own work there denarius genius, you are a fucking tool ya know that? Court.... LMFAO... Grin

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Than send it to me in DM if you're so confident about your claims, if you know you are right you should be fine taking it to court.

Hahaha! That's hilarious! Do your own work there denarius genius, you are a fucking tool ya know that? Court.... LMFAO... Grin

You think its funny until someone does sue you lmao. Defamation of anyone's name is a crime, whether you want to believe it or not  Roll Eyes


This is all super funny, you are all just blowing smoke, no proof of anything, no actual accusations, it really really seems like this topic was made just to get us some more marketing. So thank you Smiley

I can also confirm, none of these people are alt accounts, they are all real people from our community, if you guys came into our Discord or did any sort of actual research, you would know that, instead you all are still choosing to remain acting like dumbasses, so the rest of us will just continue to laugh at you owlcuntz and mosprognoz  Grin Cheesy

How is this first post of yours still valid actually? Stating that the project has a team without names while the lead dev and founder is known from the start being Carsen.

Thank you for reminding me. I edited the first post and the topic header. Now everything looks fine.

So, you are literally doing this for some reason other than an actual valid concern. Interesting.

You were provided with pages of facts, and have literally ignored every single one.


Hey OP, you gonna leave this topic die with your tail between your legs aren't you? Man up and admit you were wrong, I won't take away your negative rep, you deserve it for being such a tool.

Have another neg there scammer.  Grin
Yea keep up that rhetoric.

I'll pay a nice finders fee to the person who is able to find real life information about owlcatz and mosprognoz so we are at least able to confront them with their actions. Being keyboard warriors and acting like you own the place while your accusations are based on other accusations without providing proper evidence is just as bad as actually scamming people imo. You and your wannabe police buddies are harming Denarius and Carsen Klock in this case while you aren't even willing to discuss anything presented to you that says you are wrong.

Go cry to the mods about me asking people to doxx your sorry asses, you've asked for it. And no, I'm no longer accepting apologies nor do I ask you to remove this topic, I will eventually find out who you and your buddies are. So go ahead with your trolling and childish behaviour, you'll cry for it later.

Wah. I don't hide, my info is publicly available... So Fuck off Carsen.  Grin

He is not Carsen.

You don't hide? Provide us all a link to your publicly available information. You only have your link to your pointless site, that has WHOIS privacy domain owlcatz.com that has a quote "Don't be a cunt" under the logo, you totally aren't hiding and are a totally credible person.  Roll Eyes  lmao.
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Defamation of anyone's name is a crime, whether you want to believe it or not  Roll Eyes

You might want to talk to a lawyer before making blanket statements like that. Defamation is very likely not a crime in the jurisdictions involved.
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Defamation of anyone's name is a crime, whether you want to believe it or not  Roll Eyes

You might want to talk to a lawyer before making blanket statements like that. Defamation is very likely not a crime in the jurisdictions involved.

That could be true, it does depend, but it also typically goes to the owner of the website, who is remaining anonymous. I do also respect freedom of information, just not false information.

So let's just have one big thread about how ignorant and full of false accusations suchmoon, monprog, and owlcatz are.

I have also talked to lawyers within my jurisdiction, so I can make statements like that, typically defamation is a crime in mostly all countries.
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This has got to be one of the more bizarre ways for OP to show his love for carsen. The nice thing coming from this is anyone can read the trolling, checkout the github https://github.com/carsenk/denarius and see why this has taken a soap opera vibe to one of the better crypto developers.

Don't forget to check out the thin branch https://github.com/carsenk/denarius/tree/thin
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=957
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=958
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=959

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Looks like we have one more 'better' version of Bitcoin  Tongue
It is so fast in direction going down... no need for LN here

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seeing so much hate from all of you so called "OGs" make me more bullish on this project.

And yes Mr dkbit98 it is down like ALL of the so Called 'Trusted' projects and ICOs like the one in your signature that scammed investors from MILLIONS of dollars.I dont see that with Denarius. To each his own
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And yes Mr dkbit98 it is down like ALL of the so Called 'Trusted' projects and ICOs that scammed investors from MILLIONS of dollars.I dont see that with Denarius. To each his own



Yeah, but just a little bit 'better' and 'faster' than other 'Trusted' projects.  Roll Eyes
Looks like Denarius don't have any investors with millions of dollars.

Over 98% from ath...


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Its a work in progress like everything in life ...
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Looks like we have one more 'better' version of Bitcoin  Tongue
It is so fast in direction going down... no need for LN here

It is literally better than Bitcoin in many ways technically. The new book coming out is going to be awesome Smiley

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5 minute full confirms vs. 1 hour full confirms
Max 10 million D vs. Max 21 million BTC
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PoS/Hybrid FortunaStakes/CLTV/Atomic Swaps/Native Tor

Denarius doesn't need LN. Bitcoin needs it, because it is fundamentally slow.

Also putting LN in the context of market capitalization and price value can only be done by someone ignorant. lol....
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This thread is sounding like the bitcoin meme of its dead each time BTC lost value against USD. Denarius is technically better than bitcoin, just like bitcoin is technically better than the previous cryptocurrencies. Why are you guys so focused on price over the technology? There is so much room for more than just bitcoin in this space for different cryptocurencies to exist together.

Currently anyone can mine this at the cost of electricity or get basically free airdrops in the discord, which any coin where this is happening, how can it be a scam? Was litecoin a scam because of massive mining pool lottery drops and faucets?
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It is literally better than Bitcoin in many ways technically.

A shitcoin claiming to be faster than Bitcoin. I don't think we've ever seen anything like this.

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Denarius is technically better than bitcoin,
Do you want me to flag you as well or what is this lie supposed to be?

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Denarius is technically better than bitcoin,
Do you want me to flag you as well or what is this lie supposed to be?

Flag me for what? Because some bitcoin forks are better than bitcoin itself?
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Denarius is technically better than bitcoin,
Do you want me to flag you as well or what is this lie supposed to be?
Flag me for what? Because some bitcoin forks are better than bitcoin itself?
Never mind, I forgot that we don't flag people for consistent lying even that which leads to financial damage (yet). I have left you a negative rating. Enjoy this lovely morning with a nice hot cup of covfefe.

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It is literally better than Bitcoin in many ways technically.

A shitcoin claiming to be faster than Bitcoin. I don't think we've ever seen anything like this.



We aren't claiming, it is a simple fact. All you people in this thread hating, have done zero research.
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It is literally better than Bitcoin in many ways technically.
A shitcoin claiming to be faster than Bitcoin. I don't think we've ever seen anything like this.
We aren't claiming, it is a simple fact. All you people in this thread hating, have done zero research.
To which I can only respond: You're a degenerate piece of shit. YOU and project Shitarius think that you're better than Bitcoin and ME? This ordeal is so absurd and pathetic that I can't even laugh at it. Just fuck off.

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Denarius is technically better than bitcoin,
Do you want me to flag you as well or what is this lie supposed to be?

Go ahead flag me, do you think I actually care at all? Everyone knows Denarius isn't a scam and that I am not a scammer.

You are just making yourself look like a total tool and idiot, lol
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Denarius is technically better than bitcoin,
Do you want me to flag you as well or what is this lie supposed to be?
Go ahead flag me, do you think I actually care at all? Everyone knows Denarius isn't a scam and that I am not a scammer.

You are just making yourself look like a total tool and idiot, lol
I'll make sure everyone knows that you're a scammer and that this shitcoin is a scam too. Just watch me, scamming cunt.

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Denarius is technically better than bitcoin,
Do you want me to flag you as well or what is this lie supposed to be?
Go ahead flag me, do you think I actually care at all? Everyone knows Denarius isn't a scam and that I am not a scammer.

You are just making yourself look like a total tool and idiot, lol
I'll make sure everyone knows that you're a scammer and that this shitcoin is a scam too. Just watch me, scamming cunt.

If mining crypto is a scam, why are you even on bitcointalk in the first place?
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Denarius is technically better than bitcoin,
Do you want me to flag you as well or what is this lie supposed to be?
Go ahead flag me, do you think I actually care at all? Everyone knows Denarius isn't a scam and that I am not a scammer.

You are just making yourself look like a total tool and idiot, lol
I'll make sure everyone knows that you're a scammer and that this shitcoin is a scam too. Just watch me, scamming cunt.

Well you already suck at that majorly, It has been almost 3 years now, we have a solid community and it is just growing more now, with your false accusations, lmao.

No scams or scammers here, the only ones I see is Lauda, mosprogz, suchmoon, and owlcatz whom are all criminals causing defamation to an innocent persons name.

Just keep hating, that is all you will ever be is a hater and a jealous prick. Your only helping with marketing Denarius (D) out there by doing such.
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If mining crypto is a scam, why are you even on bitcointalk in the first place?
I was sent here for one reason only: To prevent scamming wankers like King Carsen from doing a lot of damage. Some say it's altruism, I don't know. I don't need a label.



Kiss

If you really push me, I'm certain that I can get a good basis for a type-2 flag.

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You are an altruist now.Give me a break fool.
Dont forget to flag me too.
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November 08, 2019, 06:56:42 PM
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If mining crypto is a scam, why are you even on bitcointalk in the first place?
I was sent here for one reason only: To prevent scamming wankers like King Carsen from doing a lot of damage. Some say it's altruism, I don't know. I don't need a label. Kiss

Your not preventing anything. You are literally just causing defamation to my name and digging yourself a hole.

Good luck convincing the thousands in our community that have been here the last 3 years mining/staking/running FortunaStakes and Denarius nodes.

Literally everyone is talking about how stupid you are right now on our Discord.
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If mining crypto is a scam, why are you even on bitcointalk in the first place?
I was sent here for one reason only: To prevent scamming wankers like King Carsen from doing a lot of damage. Some say it's altruism, I don't know. I don't need a label.



Kiss

If you really push me, I'm certain that I can get a good basis for a type-2 flag.

The fact you would attack someone with a large twitter following and has only done good for many many crypto communities says it all. And one of those few who does take bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies like Denarius for their business.
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If mining crypto is a scam, why are you even on bitcointalk in the first place?
I was sent here for one reason only: To prevent scamming wankers like King Carsen from doing a lot of damage. Some say it's altruism, I don't know. I don't need a label.



Kiss

If you really push me, I'm certain that I can get a good basis for a type-2 flag.

Lol so you were sent here by somebody.  Confirmation.
Yup someone is out to get Carsen, Denarius and anyone associated.
Let me guess you were paid off to write negative stuff and start tagging people for a discussion in a thread. 
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The fact you would attack someone with a large twitter following and has only done good for many many crypto communities says it all. And one of those few who does take bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies like Denarius for their business.
No idea what you're talking about. I don't use Twitter nor do I care about it, it's cancerous. The person that accepts cryptocurrencies like Denarius ought to get a brain-exam.

Let me guess you were paid off to write negative stuff and start tagging people for a discussion in a thread. 
Your whole scamcoin's market capitulation isn't sufficient to pay me to write one negative sentence about it.

Here's a private threat:
What is your full name and address?

You will be served.
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No scams or scammers here, the only ones I see is Lauda, mosprogz, suchmoon, and owlcatz whom are all criminals causing defamation to an innocent persons name.

You got it backwards. I think Denarius is a shitcoin and having an opinion is not defamation. It's also not defamation to state well-known facts of your scammy deeds.

However calling people criminals without any evidence of a crime might actually be defamation. Luckily for you no one here is going to bother deanonymizing themselves to test that theory on some two-bit shitcoiner.
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However calling people criminals without any evidence of a crime might actually be defamation. Luckily for you no one here is going to bother deanonymizing themselves to test that theory on some two-bit shitcoiner.
I guess calling someone a wanking scammer is the same as calling someone a criminal? Potatoes, potatos. Good luck. Kiss

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No scams or scammers here, the only ones I see is Lauda, mosprogz, suchmoon, and owlcatz whom are all criminals causing defamation to an innocent persons name.

You got it backwards. I think Denarius is a shitcoin and having an opinion is not defamation. It's also not defamation to state well-known facts of your scammy deeds.

However calling people criminals without any evidence of a crime might actually be defamation. Luckily for you no one here is going to bother deanonymizing themselves to test that theory on some two-bit shitcoiner.


Calling someone and accusing someone of scamming, is by definition, defamation, especially when that person never scammed anyone.

Denarius is not a "shitcoin" so your opinion also doesn't belong here, this was a thread accusing Denarius as being a scam, when it has been around for two+ years, has tons of services/apps/merchants etc. there is nothing to scam, no ICO/IPO/etc. it is entirely open source and community based, has a transparent team and whitepaper. https://github.com/carsenk/denarius look at the repo even....

You both clearly have mental issues.
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Calling someone and accusing someone of scamming, is by definition, defamation, especially when that person never scammed anyone.
It is true by any observable facts, and any rational and knowledgable forum user will come to the same conclusion after looking at this thread (among other things). Such fact-based opinions are not defamation. Trying to threaten forum users with defamation bullshit like CW did with Twitter users does only further dig your own hole. I'll be expanding the flag-list to scam-advocates when I have time for that triviality.

Actions have consequences; escalation was asked for. I wish you good luck handling that as I unwatch this thread. Meow. Kiss

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The fact you would attack someone with a large twitter following and has only done good for many many crypto communities says it all. And one of those few who does take bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies like Denarius for their business.
No idea what you're talking about. I don't use Twitter nor do I care about it, it's cancerous. The person that accepts cryptocurrencies like Denarius ought to get a brain-exam.

Let me guess you were paid off to write negative stuff and start tagging people for a discussion in a thread. 
Your whole scamcoin's market capitulation isn't sufficient to pay me to write one negative sentence about it.

Here's a private threat:
What is your full name and address?

You will be served.
Cheesy

This reads like something I would have read on [H] forums back in the day about bitcoin and satoshi. One of the main places on the internet where bitcoin was being discussed as being beanie babies.
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Prove that it is a Scam?  Back it up.
Is the developer present, Yes
Has the developer exit scammed, False

If it truly was a Scam. He wouldn’t be active in development.
And he would have disappeared a long time ago.
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Calling someone and accusing someone of scamming, is by definition, defamation, especially when that person never scammed anyone.
It is true by any observable facts, and any rational and knowledgable forum user will come to the same conclusion after looking at this thread (among other things). Such fact-based opinions are not defamation. Trying to threaten forum users with defamation bullshit like CW did with Twitter users does only further dig your own hole. I'll be expanding the flag-list to scam-advocates when I have time for that triviality.

Actions have consequences; escalation was asked for. I wish you good luck handling that as I unwatch this thread. Meow. Kiss

So then Lauda, what did I do?

Your full of shit, you spewing your shit all over the internet is reason for defamation and I could sue you and am 1000% for it if I ever get your real information. I don't appreciate my name having defamation, after all the time and effort and contributions I have made open source and to the industry.

Do not even compare me to CW, Craig Wrong is a fraud and was actually lieing to everyone claiming he was Satoshi.

I am not claiming anything, I am defending myself against trolls like you, whom can literally run around yelling scam and scammer, yet have zero evidence.
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Calling someone and accusing someone of scamming, is by definition, defamation, especially when that person never scammed anyone.

Except you did scam someone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387500.0

And even your "comeback" thread is clearly offering to continue P&D scams: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510913.0

Denarius is not a "shitcoin" so your opinion also doesn't belong here

Quit whining, report to moderator.

You both clearly have mental issues.

Defamation!!#@$@#$%%$^#
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Calling someone and accusing someone of scamming, is by definition, defamation, especially when that person never scammed anyone.

Except you did scam someone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387500.0

And even your "comeback" thread is clearly offering to continue P&D scams: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510913.0

Denarius is not a "shitcoin" so your opinion also doesn't belong here

Quit whining, report to moderator.

You both clearly have mental issues.

Defamation!!#@$@#$%%$^#

That topic on NextGenVapes was a legit company I was starting up, we had inventory issues with our distributor, delayed, the customer was contacted several times, no reply. I found the thread way later on, and still offered to refund the customer, but still no reply, thus that thread remains up. He never provided a refund address.

That makes me a scammer, how?

Also the other thread was made a year before I made Denarius (D) asking for a general consensus on what was wanted in the industry. Also yet again, not evidence of anything, literally just me asking the community what was in at the time and also me proving myself to everyone and all haters literally shutting up....lol

Just stop trolling, you suck at it Louis.



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That makes me a scammer, how?

You take money and you don't deliver, 2+2 = scam.

BTW you should get your story straight, your original excuse was:

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the site was still in the progress of being built. The company never took off the ground.

Just stop trolling, you suck at it Louis.

Defamation!!@#@#

And who the fuck is Louis?
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That makes me a scammer, how?

You take money and you don't deliver, 2+2 = scam.

BTW you should get your story straight, your original excuse was:

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the site was still in the progress of being built. The company never took off the ground.

Just stop trolling, you suck at it Louis.

Defamation!!@#@#

And who the fuck is Louis?

Maybe you should read better:

That topic on NextGenVapes was a legit company I was starting up, we had inventory issues with our distributor, delayed, the customer was contacted several times, no reply. I found the thread way later on, and still offered to refund the customer, but still no reply, thus that thread remains up. He never provided a refund address.

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Maybe you should read better:

Give me a fucking break. I've been trading on eBay 10 years before I even joined this forum, I've seen every scam and every excuse imaginable.

Granted the shitcoining business is a scammer's paradise. Even when bagholders lose 99% you can still claim that it's "the market" and totally not the fault of your lying scheming ass and they believe you, because you - the almighty DEV of their shitcoin - are their only hope.
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Maybe you should read better:

Give me a fucking break. I've been trading on eBay 10 years before I even joined this forum, I've seen every scam and every excuse imaginable.

Granted the shitcoining business is a scammer's paradise. Even when bagholders lose 99% you can still claim that it's "the market" and totally not the fault of your lying scheming ass and they believe you, because you - the almighty DEV of their shitcoin - are their only hope.

Since when does "the market" have anything to do with the dev of a crypto? Last time I checked "the market" is free and open and it is on multiple exchanges. I am not responsible for the value of Denarius at all, I help to just maintain it and progress development.

You should probably go back to trading on eBay, seeing as you are clearly out of your league here.  Roll Eyes lol
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It is literally better than Bitcoin in many ways technically.

I think that $500 daily volume is just way 'better' than Bitcoin in every way possible.
With just few hundred dollars anyone can destroy your revolutionary supercoin

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November 08, 2019, 10:59:28 PM
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Since when does "the market" have anything to do with the dev of a crypto? Last time I checked "the market" is free and open and it is on multiple exchanges. I am not responsible for the value of Denarius at all, I help to just maintain it and progress development.

Exactly my point. You can weasel out of any responsibility regardless of how shitty your creation is.

You should probably go back to trading on eBay, seeing as you are clearly out of your league here.  Roll Eyes lol

Trust me, I'm extremely happy to not be in the scamcoin "league". You can have it all for yourself.
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Since when does "the market" have anything to do with the dev of a crypto? Last time I checked "the market" is free and open and it is on multiple exchanges. I am not responsible for the value of Denarius at all, I help to just maintain it and progress development.

Exactly my point. You can weasel out of any responsibility regardless of how shitty your creation is.

You should probably go back to trading on eBay, seeing as you are clearly out of your league here.  Roll Eyes lol

Trust me, I'm extremely happy to not be in the scamcoin "league". You can have it all for yourself.

Enjoy your flag.

My creation is not shitty, the only thing shitty here is you.
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Enjoy your flag. My creation is not shitty, the only thing shitty here is you.

That is a clear trust abuse. I think it is time to ask Theymos to lock you out from this account too and ban all of your other alt accounts. BTW nobody gives a suit about your false flags, because it is the same as untrusted feedbacks that you and your alts left. All of your flags are inactive but flags on your profiles are active
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He started Denarius like 1 month after his last scam coin (TorCoin).. Rinse and repeat.  Roll Eyes

Funny enough, he said this in the Nightmare coin thread:
Just wanted to say fuck you to everyone that thinks this coin or all these other coins popping up are mine, none of them are made by me, my last coin is CKcoin which you as a community also burned to the ground, I won't ever make coins for this community again, you are immature little kids that don't know anything about investing, speculative markets, pump n' dumps, programming, design, marketing, or anything related to do anything productive in anyway. You just troll and FUD every thread saying its my creation, well its not and if it was I would straight tell you. So fuck off ya doucheclown troll.

But then PM'd me this after I left feedback for TorCoin, where I referenced Nightmare, Shadow, etc....

You should probably get your facts straight before you go posting shit all over the internet.

I made Nightmare.
It wasent a scam.
Torcoin is based off my Nightmare source
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Enjoy your flag.

To paraphrase the saying attributed to (among others) Abe Lincoln and Mark Twain: "Better to remain silent and suspected of being a scammer than to start abusing the trust system and remove all doubt".

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Yeah he seems like someone dumb enough to get confused in his own lies.
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Enjoy your flag. My creation is not shitty, the only thing shitty here is you.

That is a clear trust abuse. I think it is time to ask Theymos to lock you out from this account too and ban all of your other alt accounts. BTW nobody gives a suit about your false flags, because it is the same as untrusted feedbacks that you and your alts left. All of your flags are inactive but flags on your profiles are active

Maybe you should also cry to theymos that you are actually the lieing sack of shit, that YOU are the one ABUSING the reputation and accusation system, attempting defamation on someone's name. First of all, I have done absolutely nothing wrong besides defend myself against you worthless trolls in this scam accusation thread. Secondly, you actually had the most pending flags against you, sounds like your a little mad now that some of those are going active? Don't accuse random people on the internet of scamming, Maybe you will learn your lesson?




He started Denarius like 1 month after his last scam coin (TorCoin).. Rinse and repeat.  Roll Eyes

Funny enough, he said this in the Nightmare coin thread:
Just wanted to say fuck you to everyone that thinks this coin or all these other coins popping up are mine, none of them are made by me, my last coin is CKcoin which you as a community also burned to the ground, I won't ever make coins for this community again, you are immature little kids that don't know anything about investing, speculative markets, pump n' dumps, programming, design, marketing, or anything related to do anything productive in anyway. You just troll and FUD every thread saying its my creation, well its not and if it was I would straight tell you. So fuck off ya doucheclown troll.

But then PM'd me this after I left feedback for TorCoin, where I referenced Nightmare, Shadow, etc....

You should probably get your facts straight before you go posting shit all over the internet.

I made Nightmare.
It wasent a scam.
Torcoin is based off my Nightmare source
--snip--

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yet again, should probably still get your facts straight. So much ignorance around here.

Enjoy your flag.

To paraphrase the saying attributed to (among others) Abe Lincoln and Mark Twain: "Better to remain silent and suspected of being a scammer than to start abusing the trust system and remove all doubt".

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Yeah he seems like someone dumb enough to get confused in his own lies.

I submitted one as it is appropriate for you all attacking me with no actual proof or facts. Every single one of you had pending ones already anyways.

Keep talking your shit on me, you are only helping market us. This will be probably my last reply as you are all a waste of time. I will let the community have at you idiots.

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So after 7 pages of reply’s, one thing is for sure.  No evidence that Denarius is a SCAM has been presented.

That’s a FACT.
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Sunds like your a little mad now that some of those are going active? Don't accuse random people on the internet of scamming, Maybe you will learn your lesson?

Dude, it seems to me that you are a COMPLETE IDIOT! I already explained to your alt account how the trust system works.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg53002087#msg53002087

Flags created by you are active only for you and your scammy alt accounts that are on your custom trust list. For any regular user they are inactive due to insufficient support. Just log out and check it from any other of your alts that do not have a custom trust list. And as I mentioned above your flag is active, because it is supported by 2 DT members. And you know what? Just fuck off, because everyone is tired from your bullshit Mr. Shitty Developer. All of your scammy coins are nothing but stolen and enhanced copies of the real bitcoin source code. Once again ! I strongly recommend you to go and fuck yourself up your scammy ass.
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Sounds like your a little mad now that some of those are going active? Don't accuse random people on the internet of scamming, Maybe you will learn your lesson?

Dude, it seems to me that you are a COMPLETE IDIOT! I already explained to your alt account how the trust system works.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg53002087#msg53002087

Flags created by you are active only for you and your scammy alt accounts that are on your custom trust list. For any regular user they are inactive due to insufficient support. Just log out and check it from any other of your alts that do not have a custom trust list. And as I mentioned above your flag is active, because it is supported by 2 DT members. And you know what? Just fuck off, because everyone is tired from your bullshit Mr. Shitty Developer. All of your scammy coins are nothing but stolen and enhanced copies of the real bitcoin source code. Once again ! I strongly recommend you to go and fuck yourself up your scammy ass.

I think it is super funny you think that I have alt accounts, I am not trying to hide, I am not trying to use other accounts besides this one.

Those are all other real people. You must feel like a total tool knowing that you've been provided fact after fact from them and including me and you still choose to ignore everything.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg53025874#msg53025874 < - You have a ton of flags from other people whom are not involved in this at all. lol this guy  Roll Eyes
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Sounds like your a little mad now that some of those are going active? Don't accuse random people on the internet of scamming, Maybe you will learn your lesson?

Dude, it seems to me that you are a COMPLETE IDIOT! I already explained to your alt account how the trust system works.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg53002087#msg53002087

Flags created by you are active only for you and your scammy alt accounts that are on your custom trust list. For any regular user they are inactive due to insufficient support. Just log out and check it from any other of your alts that do not have a custom trust list. And as I mentioned above your flag is active, because it is supported by 2 DT members. And you know what? Just fuck off, because everyone is tired from your bullshit Mr. Shitty Developer. All of your scammy coins are nothing but stolen and enhanced copies of the real bitcoin source code. Once again ! I strongly recommend you to go and fuck yourself up your scammy ass.

I think it is super funny you think that I have alt accounts, I am not trying to hide, I am not trying to use other accounts besides this one.

Those are all other real people. You must feel like a total tool knowing that you've been provided fact after fact from them and including me and you still choose to ignore everything.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196899.msg53025874#msg53025874 < - You have a ton of flags from other people whom are not involved in this at all. lol this guy  Roll Eyes
It still worries me the most that this is reported to theymost by me and the moderator of the scam part of bitcointalk, yet no intervention to straighten out this mess created by the 4 police-trolls out here. These 4 are so convinced of their own lies that this topic is straight up ignoring anything that proves that the OP is wrong and they cherrypick sentences out of answers to convert them in another attack. Like I said earlier, you 4 are no better than Trump and his shady tactics. I'm still waiting for the day someone of the bitcointalk staff or mods comes in here, reads from page 1 to the last and after that takes away these 4 guys DT2 membership, they are a disgrace for this forum, the self proclaimed high respected members ... my ass, giving negative trust to people not agreeing with their false accusations, if this doesn't get straightened out soon this forum is dead to me, it has no more value if these kind of trolls run the place and have the power to break or make a coin, even if the accusations are false, these guys got powerhungry and triggerhappy and nobody keeps them in check it seems.

Edit:

Oh yeah I just started a thread about you 4 mishaps, hope to get some replies from you 4 in there as well to show how well respected you guys are https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200018.0

How about you DYOR on Denarius (D)
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Hey Carsen. You are claiming that you are a great developer. Share your opinion about this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200048
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November 09, 2019, 02:47:49 PM
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Here's a private threat:
What is your full name and address?

You will be served.
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The whole time reading the thread, my personal stance was that OP was overshooting with the scam accusation, and that anyone defending the thread should maybe consider giving the project a chance. Like "people can change, regardless of their past" or something like that. I really wanted to give the project the benefit of doubt, because so far, I haven't heard anything specifically negative about it.

Looks like this is the wrong attitude in this forum, thanks for posting that private message publicly.

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"people can change, regardless of their past" or something like that. I really wanted to give the project the benefit of doubt, because so far, I haven't heard anything specifically negative about it.

Denarius is just a dead pump and dump shitcoin. (See the charts)

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/denarius-dnr/  

And here is premined coins wallet that belongs to our beloved shitcoin developer Carsen Klock aka kingcarsen.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/d/address.dws?1270703.htm

Unfortunately for him, he could not dump all of his coins due to almost zero (0) 24h trading volume

All coins that have such charts and wallets with huge number of premined coins are nothing but a shitcoins developed only with one reason, to enrich the developer.

P.S. He could milk out millions of dollars from that project if the price would not drop from $3.6 to almost zero. The wallet mentioned above holds almost 800 000 (D)
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From that alone you show more ignorance about the project by referencing a wallet that belongs to Cryptopia.
If you dont believe me the chain fortunately is open for vetting
go to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/d/address.dws?1270703.htm and follow the coins back

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From that alone you show more ignorance about the project by referencing a wallet that belongs to Cryptopia.
If you dont believe me the chain fortunately is open for vetting
go to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/d/address.dws?1270703.htm and follow the coins back

ROFL

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Cryptopia was closed long time ago and they returned all coins to holders.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/
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From that alone you show more ignorance about the project by referencing a wallet that belongs to Cryptopia.
If you dont believe me the chain fortunately is open for vetting
go to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/d/address.dws?1270703.htm and follow the coins back

ROFL

Whatever mud you throw at us we throw it back at you

Cryptopia was closed long time ago and they returned all coins to holders.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/

For everyone to see just how much you know in this space.

https://beincrypto.com/cryptopia-starts-liquidating-assets-creditor-repayment-date-still-unknown/
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have you lost your mind ?
EVERYONE knows than all the Cryptopia coins  they had have gone to liquidators.No client has ever compensated for their holdings.
Even the site you linked acknowledges that.
The problem is you live in your own bubble and you dont want to know the truth.

More Mud returning to you
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I found a new altcoin project that does not have a WP and team without names (Some nicknames only) Edit: We found out that this project was developed by a well known scammer Carsen Klock. Because of that the topic header has been adited. For more information please read the whole thread.

ANN = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140514.0

Team = https://denarius.io/the-team/

Moved to scam accusations board.

This whole thread should be deleted based on this post being inaccurate, everything else below it is irreverent. 
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have you lost your mind ?
EVERYONE knows than all the Cryptopia coins  they had have gone to liquidators.No client has ever compensated for their holdings.
Even the site you linked acknowledges that.
The problem is you live in your own bubble and you dont want to know the truth.

More Mud returning to you

Dude, I might be wrong about cryptopia funds, but that does not change anything. Denarius is a shitcoin created by a scammer who was a developer of paycoin too. BTW maybe you would like to share with us some information about paycoin too?
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You are wrong about a lot of things. Carsen was involved with Paycoin because he was an employee at GAW miners. The CEO went to jail
nothing to see here moving on.

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Here is some more info about Carsen. All his coins had a huge hidden premine and all of them were nothing but a scam.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/32u3gc/best_leaked_gaw_email_hints_at_future_crytpo_scam/

Carsen Klock, developer at gaw miners, is the creator of bsty coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=777173.0

webcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

ckcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726111.0

nightmare coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741234.0

https://twitter.com/cryptocobain/status/897206674037104641

Ahh.. and EVEN CNN WAS TALKING ABOUT CARSEN.

https://www.ccn.com/josh-garza-releases-a-hit-list-of-media-outlets/

"In an effort to prop up the value of Paycoin, which has been in the throes of steady decline ever since its launch, a well-known scammer by the name of Carson Klock in partnership with Josh Garza has launched Coinstand.com, a website that will accept a Paycoin in lieu of a $20 bill."

A lot of more info to come. I will create a new topic dedicated to Carsen and his scams very soon.
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how do open source cryptos have hidden premines?
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I dont have any premined coins,

All of shitcoins developed by you had a huge hidden premine.

Denarius Specifications
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10% Premine of 1,000,000 DNR
50% of the premine 500,000 DNR will be going to bounties, promotions, marketing, and services.
The other 50% is my personal funding for maintaining and funding the development of this coin.



Will go to bounties and marketing... my ass...
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I dont have any premined coins,

All of shitcoins developed by you had a huge hidden premine.

Denarius Specifications
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10% Premine of 1,000,000 DNR
50% of the premine 500,000 DNR will be going to bounties, promotions, marketing, and services.
The other 50% is my personal funding for maintaining and funding the development of this coin.



Will go to bounties and marketing... my ass...


i thought this info was hidden on public gitihub?
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Ask the community, they definitely all did go to bounties, marketing, and services.

Yes sure, and I am the pope of Rome. Carsen you are a scammer who was involved in countless scams, including one of the biggest crypto scam paycoin. That is confirmed and undeniable. So I am suggesting you once again. Just go and fuck yourself up your scammy ass. I am not planing spending my time on conversation with a fucking scammer like you. The conversation is over.
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Ask the community, they definitely all did go to bounties, marketing, and services.

Yes sure, and I am the pope of Rome. Carsen you are a scammer who was involved in countless scams, including one of the biggest crypto scam paycoin. That is confirmed and undeniable. So I am suggesting you once again. Just go and fuck yourself up your scammy ass. I am not planing spending my time on conversation with a fucking scammer like you. The conversation is over.

tpruvot got some of that bounty for putting tribus in ccminer, is tpruvot a scammer now too?
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From that alone you show more ignorance about the project by referencing a wallet that belongs to Cryptopia.
If you dont believe me the chain fortunately is open for vetting
go to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/d/address.dws?1270703.htm and follow the coins back

ROFL

Whatever mud you throw at us we throw it back at you

Cryptopia was closed long time ago and they returned all coins to holders.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/

This statement proves you do not know what you are talking about.  
Go do some research.
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From that alone you show more ignorance about the project by referencing a wallet that belongs to Cryptopia.
If you dont believe me the chain fortunately is open for vetting
go to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/d/address.dws?1270703.htm and follow the coins back

ROFL

Whatever mud you throw at us we throw it back at you

Cryptopia was closed long time ago and they returned all coins to holders.

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/

This statement proves you do not know what you are talking about.  
Go do some research.


I started with Denarius $D, then $DNR, a couple months after it was created while learning how to solo mine.

#1 Carsen developers the TRIBUS algo which is now formed and used by other coins..
#2 Carsen has shown his wallets and does not have much D on his own he HAS given most of the premine away and the largest wallet is Cryptopia’s which exited.
#3 when I was telling people SIGT was a scam people were telling me to watch out for Carsen.
#4 many bigger crypto Twitter people that are trustworthy and code know of this coin and follow it. I have since enjoyed the CONSTANT github update, active community and continue to mine and purchase $D. I currently have almost 4 masternodes which is only $1500 but with such a nice wallet and constant updates, privacy and community I expect it to rise high again.
#5 I asked Carsen about his works in progress and there are many things on the list. I believe he is still working on ring signatures which isn’t a priority but will be amazing to add to the coin.
#6 Verge copy and pasted Denarius GitHub and called it the ‘wraith protocol’. This was their amazing privacy protocol. Why are they worth billions on mc?
#7 there is more but you are way off center. If you said this 2 years ago it might have been possible but you’ve been debunked and Carsen has thus far proven to have integrity beyond 99% of the cryptoverse.
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there is more but you are way off center. If you said this 2 years ago it might have been possible but you’ve been debunked and Carsen has thus far proven to have integrity beyond 99% of the cryptoverse.

Just follow the links to the coins created by Carsen.

bsty coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=777173.0

webcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

ckcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726111.0

nightmare coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741234.0

Paycoin scam involvement https://www.ccn.com/josh-garza-releases-a-hit-list-of-media-outlets/

All of them are scams. The same scenario is with denarius.

I will not post here again, because I am tired of all B.S. posted by Carsen and his shills.
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there is more but you are way off center. If you said this 2 years ago it might have been possible but you’ve been debunked and Carsen has thus far proven to have integrity beyond 99% of the cryptoverse.

Just follow the links to the coins created by Carsen.

bsty coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=777173.0

webcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

ckcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726111.0

nightmare coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741234.0

Paycoin scam involvement https://www.ccn.com/josh-garza-releases-a-hit-list-of-media-outlets/

All of them are scams. The same scenario is with denarius.

I will not post here again, because I am tired of all B.S. posted by Carsen and his shills.

I was aware of the accusations right after I got into it. Wether they are true or not Carsen has a different version but I can tell you this that Denarius has been a fun community, very open, and I support it as the only low cap I have 100% faith in with regular GitHub commits, a community of developers and advisors and a super active discord. Your told everyone the past which may be 1/10 true or 100% true. The fact is Carsen and other have developing and graphic art skills. There are many professionals that have learned python just to make scripts for the masternodes and guide for this and other coins. Seriously.. thank you for the warning but look at the current state of things. I mean even Jimmy Carter was a crook of a president but now he pretty much runs habitat for humanity lol. Get a grip, thanks for 2012 info now look at what’s happening today. Please tell me Carsen didn’t develop Tribus algo that’s being used by multiple coins now and is blazing fast and D has a crazy high hash rate with lots of fpga’s and Gpus supporting the network?
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I will not post here again, because I am tired of all B.S. posted by Carsen and his shills.

You should probably remove your scam accusation against me and Denarius.

You have no right to be tired, you sit here and can make false scam accusations against someone and an entire community, you deserve everything you have coming to you.

Why would he do that? You have a track record of being involved in scam projects. Logic would assume Denarius is also a scam. At best, its a failed shitcoin. C'mon man. There's literally thousands of other coins out there trying to achieve the exact same thing you are and you have failed to differentiate yourself in any way, other than the notoriety of you being involved with scam projects.

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I'm not sure why this thread exists.  I think verge is a shitcoin, but I don't go post about it.  And I don't judge you if you LIKE verge.  It's whatever. 

Here's what I know:  I've been hanging around Denarius discord for a long time. Carsen is always helpful, always developing, and always asking the community to be a part of the project.   He also wants crypto to succeed as a whole, so he doesn't bash projects he isn't involved in.  He helps.  He has helped me immensely.  Most recently, he's taken his time to help me learn snapcraft, since Denarius is the first alt-coin that I know of to have a snap in the snap store. 

Think what you want, but keep your negativity to yourself. It just makes you look sad, jealous, or just lame.
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I will not post here again, because I am tired of all B.S. posted by Carsen and his shills.

You should probably remove your scam accusation against me and Denarius.

You have no right to be tired, you sit here and can make false scam accusations against someone and an entire community, you deserve everything you have coming to you.

Why would he do that? You have a track record of being involved in scam projects. Logic would assume Denarius is also a scam. At best, its a failed shitcoin. C'mon man. There's literally thousands of other coins out there trying to achieve the exact same thing you are and you have failed to differentiate yourself in any way, other than the notoriety of you being involved with scam projects.

Hey everyone, some nobody on the internet is trying to tell me and thousands of other people, that the coin I founded almost three years ago, that I have actively developing everyday, is a scam and a shitcoin.....lmao you are the special kind of stupid.

According this guys "logic": ETH is a scam, DASH is a scam, Apple is a scam, etc.

Go do your research people!
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This scammer gave me negative feedback just because I spoke my honest opinion about his Deadarius shitcoin.
Big mouth talker...

He also abused Flag system creating multiple Red flags against several members, as his revenge.


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You quoted CCN not CNN.

CCN is a glorified blog site masquerading as news.

Especially in crypto there are many dodgy sites that are made to look like legitimate news but are just someones blog peddling opinion.

Carson Klock has used many alts on bitcointalk in the past and some of them are tagged for scams. It is consistent with forum policy to tag other known alts when they become apparent. His first user account is apparently banned. Meaning that he is in breach of the forum rules by making new accounts.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed


Yes perfect! I will update the OP once I gain access back to my account Carsen...This is me right now, bitcointalk.org banned my Carsen account from making, editing, or sending personal messages or posts...I sent them an appeal email hours and hours ago, but still no reply. They didnt even give me a reason as to why they banned my account from posting, I can still get on it, but not reply to PMs or edit the OP....


http://archive.md/ntVxH

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Just a few Carsen Klock Alts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=860708 kingcarsen
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=128350 Carsen
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435 Carsenk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357118 webcoinx14
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=351426 isiscoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1172078 Matrixcoind
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310361 HASHX11
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=334111 unknowncoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1888116 sellernine
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=349058 firecoinx15
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038 nightmarecoin


Carsen, Do right by the people and rebuild your name.

I am mining this baby and hoping for the best.

Alright Jarvis, This is for you and everyone else that follows me. I am Carsen Klock (my actual user account here on Bitcointalk was banned along time ago for posting a coin giveaway (Yes I know, very ridiculous).

http://archive.md/x1Bw1

Would you list all the coins you launched so far?

Yes of course: My entry to the crypto-world in order is:
Timecoin (Scrypt based, terrible clone)
Matrixcoin (Sha256 based, terrible clone)
Hashcoin (X11 based, first animated logo, DGW V3, coin ended up forking due to no one updating to the latest wallet from all the FUD, coin could still work)
Dreamcoin (X11 based first PoW/PoS crypto I created, HUGE amount of FUD with threats, so I removed the coin to hurt the community because I was hurt, which was wrong, looks like community took it over though, still working)
Nebulacoin (X13 based PoW/PoS, Still lives on to this day)
Techcoin (X13 based PoW/PoS, Still lives on to this day, looks like the community is taking it over, fixing block times (it was too slow)).
Firecoin (X15 based first PoW/PoS, block times were faster, smoother launch, FUD killed it)
Isiscoin (X15 based PoW/PoS, smooth launch, hit Mintpal second day of ninja launch (No bribes were made), Premine was dumped before we hit Mintpal (which a lot of people thought i dumped on mintpal, I did not), HUGE FUD followed, along with government talk of Isiscoin, Death Threats, etc. Bad choice of name and bad launch date made me remove this coin, also because I do not support terrorism and that is what people were thinking. Just overall bad ideas on my end, My intention was the Egyptian god ISIS but as you all know, people twist things around)
Webcoin (X14 PoW/PoS, By far my best coin ever, Extremely stable, Smooth launch, Fair distribution)

Any other coin is not made by me, these are the only coins I have worked on.


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November 30, 2019, 08:37:13 AM
Last edit: December 10, 2019, 11:13:35 PM by charlie137
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here is the scammer of the topic showing sharp google translate skills Grin


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2569112.msg53125659#msg53125659
this is hands down hilarious, бpю))

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December 20, 2019, 08:07:27 AM
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denarius.io website is down, looks like you where right, Carsen Klock is a scammer
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December 20, 2019, 08:15:52 AM
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denarius.io website is down, looks like you where right, Carsen Klock is a scammer

The site is back up, so i guess we will see....
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