MMA talk - PFL, Bellator, KSW, ONE...

[TopTort777]

DWCS finished and there is a new Russian fighter signed for UFC and Dana White was so impressed with first round of his fight that he called it best round ever and he can't to see him fight again.

Is this the guy and KO you are talking about ? https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1448090453514072075

Well, that was quick. But no offence, this does not look like something very special. I think Dana White just had to say something about the winner and such words were just regular for a fighter description.

But in general Viacheslav Borschev looks like a very funny and kind guy https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1448091503545438212. I think he is too kind for UFC

[tokeweed]

It’s a decent Bellator event for the coming weekend.  I really don’t get excited when I get Corey Anderson in a UFC event but for Bellator it’s pump fist in the air card.  Lolol.  And Nemkov being the main event is always good.

I would say it's much Bellator better event than this week UFC event, we have both Light Heavyweight main and co-main event, I am excited to see Ryan Bader vs Corey Anderson in this grand prix semifinals!

^  I guess so...  But I feel like the quality of matches in the prelims and the under cards in the UFC are a lot better than the under cards they have at Bellator 268 event.

Anybody got some good spots, leans and picks for the event?  I feel like nobody is really taking some action in these Bellator events.  Lol.

[notblox1]

Is this the guy and KO you are talking about ? https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1448090453514072075

He was talking about whole round, not about the way he knocked down his opponent.
Dana can be very critical and I listened to all his post fight comments and you can hear that he was impressed by this guy, unlike guy from UK Jake Hadley that he had lot of bad things to say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-U6Pxlon58

I guess so...  But I feel like the quality of matches in the prelims and the under cards in the UFC are a lot better than the under cards they have at Bellator 268 event.

I don't like anything special in UFC prelims this weekend, and Mukhamed Berkhamov vs Jaleel Willis may be interesting welterweight fight to watch in Bellator prelims.
This is classic Russia vs United States, and both guys have impressive mma record, Berkhamov 14-1 and Willis is 15-2.

[tokeweed]

Yeah I get it,  no name value.  But look again..  Ludovit Klein vs Nate Landwehr could be a good match up, so is Andrew Sanchez vs Bruno Silva.  And it’s way better than Bellator’d prelims and main card matches outside the main and co main, that’s for sure... 

And there are some interesting underdogs.  Books seem to misprice the UFC more than other MMA outfits.

[notblox1]

When we are talking about no names, check out free ONE Championship event for free on youtube as warmup for this weekened events.
They have a lot of kickboxing fights this time and few interesting MMA fights I watched because there was few european fighters.


https://www.onefc.com/

[TheNineClub]

This is something to look forward to. Especially with the weird ruleset that will be present at the Rodtang DJ fight. Actually, it's kinda refreshing that these kinds of fights are going on. Also Nice to see Tonon back, but I have to say he is fighting so sparsely that I can't tell where he is going with all of this.

[eaLiTy]

This is something to look forward to. Especially with the weird ruleset that will be present at the Rodtang DJ fight. Actually, it's kinda refreshing that these kinds of fights are going on. Also Nice to see Tonon back, but I have to say he is fighting so sparsely that I can't tell where he is going with all of this.

I had no idea John Lineker moved out from UFC and joined OneFC, i am not aware of the skills level of his opponent but i am aware of the skill level of John Linerker and it will be an interesting fight because OneFC has some talented fighters in their lower weight divisions.

The fight that i am interested is Demetrious Johnson facing one of the legends of Muay Thai Rodtang and i am a big fan of him when he was fighting in Muay Thai and i do not remember him fighting in MMA and i have no idea how he would fair against Demetrious Johnson but this is a dream fight for the fans because the skill level is of Rodtang in striking is legendary and i consider Demetrious Johnson as one of the complete all around fighters in MMA.

[TheNineClub]

This is something to look forward to. Especially with the weird ruleset that will be present at the Rodtang DJ fight. Actually, it's kinda refreshing that these kinds of fights are going on. Also Nice to see Tonon back, but I have to say he is fighting so sparsely that I can't tell where he is going with all of this.

I had no idea John Lineker moved out from UFC and joined OneFC, i am not aware of the skills level of his opponent but i am aware of the skill level of John Linerker and it will be an interesting fight because OneFC has some talented fighters in their lower weight divisions.

The fight that i am interested is Demetrious Johnson facing one of the legends of Muay Thai Rodtang and i am a big fan of him when he was fighting in Muay Thai and i do not remember him fighting in MMA and i have no idea how he would fair against Demetrious Johnson but this is a dream fight for the fans because the skill level is of Rodtang in striking is legendary and i consider Demetrious Johnson as one of the complete all around fighters in MMA.

Actually, the ruleset for DJ vs Rodtang is a split between Muay Thai and MMA rules, with the first round as Muay Thai, the second round as MMA, and so on. So it will be a test for both of them. Even more so for DJ I think because he needs to survive the first round. Interesting and crazy concept. Not sure if it has been done this way anywhere.

[ene1980]

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Actually, the ruleset for DJ vs Rodtang is a split between Muay Thai and MMA rules, with the first round as Muay Thai, the second round as MMA, and so on. So it will be a test for both of them. Even more so for DJ I think because he needs to survive the first round. Interesting and crazy concept. Not sure if it has been done this way anywhere.

So is this an exhibition bout where they have equal opportunity in their respective discipline, whatever may be the situation it looks more like an challenge for Demetrious Johnson who is widely considered as the greatest of all time and OneFC trying to throw tough opponents after another. What i find is that unlike UFC who was struggling to find opponents for Demetrious Johnson, OneFc has done a great job.

[TheNineClub]

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Actually, the ruleset for DJ vs Rodtang is a split between Muay Thai and MMA rules, with the first round as Muay Thai, the second round as MMA, and so on. So it will be a test for both of them. Even more so for DJ I think because he needs to survive the first round. Interesting and crazy concept. Not sure if it has been done this way anywhere.

So is this an exhibition bout where they have equal opportunity in their respective discipline, whatever may be the situation it looks more like an challenge for Demetrious Johnson who is widely considered as the greatest of all time and OneFC trying to throw tough opponents after another. What i find is that unlike UFC who was struggling to find opponents for Demetrious Johnson, OneFc has done a great job.

Well, there are numerous factors to why ONE FC has had success finding DJ opponents. One is definitely that they try different avenues, but the other is that in Asian countries they have a much wider pool for his weight class that might play a factor. And yes, I believe this to be an exhibition match, with such a diverse ruleset I doubt it could be anything else.

[notblox1]

This was great Bellator event to watch, Nemkov won against Anglickas with kimura submission that was expected, and  Corey Anderson got a great ko win in first round against Ryan Bader.
Now we have great light heavyweight Grand prix final Vadim Nemkov vs Corey Anderson, it's Russia vs Unites States for prize of one million dollars!
I am also super excited to see one more Russian legend Fedor Emelianenko fighting this weekend in Bellator 260 Moscow against Tim Johnson, in what could be the last fight of his carrier.
This event should not be missed and we are going to see many other Russian fighters including Usman Nurmagomedov.


https://www.bellator.com/

[TopTort777]

Who is Tim Johnson ? On the paper, he looks like a very unstable fighter. He could beat a more experienced guy, but will lose to a less knows and experienced. He reminds me of Tim Silva. Big guy, that wins only due to strength. As I remember, Fedor destroyed Silva in less than 1 minute. But that was Fedor in his prime. Despite he is not as quick and sharp as he used to be, I think this fight will be a repeat of Fedor vs Silva scenario.

But no one should underestimate Tim Johnson. For example he has beaten a guy who has beaten Fedor He could do the same with Fedor.

[TheNineClub]

Who is Tim Johnson ? On the paper, he looks like a very unstable fighter. He could beat a more experienced guy, but will lose to a less knows and experienced. He reminds me of Tim Silva. Big guy, that wins only due to strength. As I remember, Fedor destroyed Silva in less than 1 minute. But that was Fedor in his prime. Despite he is not as quick and sharp as he used to be, I think this fight will be a repeat of Fedor vs Silva scenario.

But no one should underestimate Tim Johnson. For example he has beaten a guy who has beaten Fedor He could do the same with Fedor.

I wouldn't go so far as taking MMA math into consideration here. If said X has beaten Y and Y has beaten Z, therefor X has to beat Z as well. Not really. I would go agree more with your statement that this could go in Fedors favor. Not in a 1-minute hit and run but still, he should be the favorite here. Why Fedor is picking to fight guys like these (low-income possibility, low opponent name value and low public interest for that fighter, but still high risk for Fedor), is still a mystery to me.

[TopTort777]

He is not picking anyone. He only selects from the list of opponent who agree to fight against him. It is Bellator who organizes the fights, pay contracts. Either Fedor asks to much for his fight and to be able to pay him, they select low budget opponents, either nobody wants to fight him anymore. Previously it was an honor for top fighters to fight against him, when he had solid record, now when he is not in any ranking, has a bunch of losses, yet still can beat anyone with experience, few wishes to risk. Or Bellator has no money to pay for top opponents. In Russian media, Bellator sometimes is named funny - "bum-lattor" (бoмжaтop - in Russian) or "beggar-lattor" if translating it.

[notblox1]

Let's warm up for upcoming MMA weekend with one more Dana White Contender Series week 8 event that is starting in few hours.
Main event is featuring interesting fight in welterweight category between Solomon Renfro (8-1) and Jonny Parsons (7-2),
and I am also interested in light heavyweight fight Armen Petrosyan vs Kaloyan Kolev from Bulgaria that have perfect 10-0 record.
I think some of this fighters will have good potential to create nice MMA carrier and sign a contract with Dana White.


I found this fights for betting in Stake
https://stake.com/sports/mma/ufc/dana-white-s-contender-series-season-5-week-8
and Sportsbet:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/dana-whites-contender-series-season-5-week-8/matches

[TheNineClub]

He is not picking anyone. He only selects from the list of opponent who agree to fight against him. It is Bellator who organizes the fights, pay contracts. Either Fedor asks to much for his fight and to be able to pay him, they select low budget opponents, either nobody wants to fight him anymore. Previously it was an honor for top fighters to fight against him, when he had solid record, now when he is not in any ranking, has a bunch of losses, yet still can beat anyone with experience, few wishes to risk. Or Bellator has no money to pay for top opponents. In Russian media, Bellator sometimes is named funny - "bum-lattor" (бoмжaтop - in Russian) or "beggar-lattor" if translating it.

I understand that he chooses from a list of fighters, but isn't choosing the same as picking? When I said picking, I was not implying that he is ducking more well known names (as they are not on the list), I am just wondering why he is fighting in the first place and not waiting it out for some meaningfull superfight. That's all.

[TopTort777]

I am just wondering why he is fighting in the first place and not waiting it out for some meaningfull superfight. That's all.

I guess this is all about the contract with Bellator. I think he needs to have X fights Y years. Last fight was in 2019. He had to take what was given. And all these "well known names" just don't want to fight him, because victory wont give anything except money. No title, no belt. But:


(in case you are not familiar with this meme - here is the original. I just like that "I guess we'll never know part" )

Cant wait for Fedor to retire. I think he has fought enough in his life. He'd better concentrate more on being a trainer.

[notblox1]

Bellator is coming to Moscow, Russia for a big event Bellator 269: Fedor vs Johnson starting in two days!
There are some great fights and if I counted correctly, total of 13 fighters in this card will be coming from Russia.
No need for big introduction for main event and legend Fedor Emelianenko who is underdog in this fight, and bookies made Johnson a favorite to win.
As this fight is happening in Moscow I can't see Fedor losing this fight and I am placing a small bet on him to win.
Co-main event is also classic Russia vs United States in same heavyweight category Vitaly Minakov (22-1) vs Said Sowma (7-2).
Then we have beast Usman Nurmagomedov in lightweight category, that means you should not miss this event.


https://www.bellator.com/

Faceoffs, Johnson looks much bigger than Fedor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-q19ORfrp4

[TopTort777]

I suggest watching Analoty Tokov vs Sharaf Davlatmurodovn. Tokov is amazing. He deserves to be in UFC. I dont know why he is not there yet. His 29-2 record is amazing. He is one of Fedor Emelianenko students. Check out his comeback after a heavy knockdown https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=574175933481096. Many thanks to ref for not stopping it too early.

[TheNineClub]

I am just wondering why he is fighting in the first place and not waiting it out for some meaningfull superfight. That's all.

I guess this is all about the contract with Bellator. I think he needs to have X fights Y years. Last fight was in 2019. He had to take what was given. And all these "well known names" just don't want to fight him, because victory wont give anything except money. No title, no belt. But:


(in case you are not familiar with this meme - here is the original. I just like that "I guess we'll never know part" )

Cant wait for Fedor to retire. I think he has fought enough in his life. He'd better concentrate more on being a trainer.

Hehe, great meme. And yeah, we really don't know, this is just speculation and an educated guess, but what is really going on, that's hard to tell. And I am totally with you, I have been shouting about this from the rooftops for some time, but there is no shame for fighters to call it quits when the time comes, and if they want to believe it or not, the time has cometh! I have seen some of Fedors seminars and he would make for a great trainer imho.