MMA talk - PFL, Bellator, KSW, ONE...

[sovie]

next saturday the next ksw gala will take place in polish szczecin and will see two titles on the line and the return of a ksw legend.
Marian 'golden boy' Ziolkowski defends his ksw lightweight title against former welterweight champion Borys 'the tasmanian devil' Mankowski and light heavyweight king Tomasz Narkun welcomes the challenge of russia's Ibragim Chuzhigaev. the ksw legend & former middleweight champion Michal Materla returns at this ksw 66 and will face 'the assassin' Jason Radcliffe

Thanks for this update. I wonder what this federation looks like compared to others in Europe. I think that Tomasz Narkun fight against Ibragim Chuzhigaev can tell a lot. I do not know if ACA/ACB fighters have been in KSW before, but this fight can show what the level of both federations is.

Do you know a bookmaker where is possible to bet on these fights with cryptocurrencies?

[cygan]

next saturday the next ksw gala will take place in polish szczecin and will see two titles on the line and the return of a ksw legend.
Marian 'golden boy' Ziolkowski defends his ksw lightweight title against former welterweight champion Borys 'the tasmanian devil' Mankowski and light heavyweight king Tomasz Narkun welcomes the challenge of russia's Ibragim Chuzhigaev. the ksw legend & former middleweight champion Michal Materla returns at this ksw 66 and will face 'the assassin' Jason Radcliffe

Thanks for this update. I wonder what this federation looks like compared to others in Europe. I think that Tomasz Narkun fight against Ibragim Chuzhigaev can tell a lot. I do not know if ACA/ACB fighters have been in KSW before, but this fight can show what the level of both federations is.

Do you know a bookmaker where is possible to bet on these fights with cryptocurrencies?

at the moment i don't know of any bookmaker where you can bet with cryptocurrencies on these ksw fights ... unfortunately also no polish bookmakers

[sovie]

Do you know a bookmaker where is possible to bet on these fights with cryptocurrencies?

at the moment i don't know of any bookmaker where you can bet with cryptocurrencies on these ksw fights ... unfortunately also no polish bookmakers

It is a pity that we cannot bet on KSW with cryptocurrencies, it is possible that some bookmaker from the industry will set it soon.
But I didn't understand correctly your second part of comment  Google found me several bookmakers with KSW .. https://www.wheretobet.net/mma/ksw/

[TheNineClub]

Do you know a bookmaker where is possible to bet on these fights with cryptocurrencies?

at the moment i don't know of any bookmaker where you can bet with cryptocurrencies on these ksw fights ... unfortunately also no polish bookmakers

It is a pity that we cannot bet on KSW with cryptocurrencies, it is possible that some bookmaker from the industry will set it soon.
But I didn't understand correctly your second part of comment  Google found me several bookmakers with KSW .. https://www.wheretobet.net/mma/ksw/

It just takes time for people to warm up to crypto. Us talking about it here might help the case because otherwise, bookies might not know if there's any value in having a crypto option. I'd like to think that all of this is for a reason. But, it took a lot of time before you could find betting for MMA, so introducing crypto into the mix will take even more time. Some are doing it, but it's not on a big scale as we would like it to be.

[notblox1]

next saturday the next ksw gala will take place in polish szczecin and will see two titles on the line and the return of a ksw legend.

I watched few KSW events, but it's not always easy to find stream and I don't know so well many of their fighters, but they are doing great work from what I saw.
Ziolkowski is a big favorites against Mankowski on paper and looking at odds but I don't know anything about them or their skills so I can't make any prediction now.

Somebody said that the there is no betting on KSW with crypto, but that is wrong and not true!
Many crypto sports bookmakers are offering MMA betting but they release odds few days before fights start.
For next KSW event you can find all fights on Sportsbet website:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ksw/ksw-66/matches

on Stake website:
https://stake.com/sports/mma/ksw

On Fortunejack website:
https://fortunejack.com/sportsbook?page=%2Fprematch%2Fhome%2Fleague%2F1955354

I am sure there are more websites with KSW markets but I don't use them so I don't know, and I am happy with websites posted above.

[cygan]

✂
Somebody said that the there is no betting on KSW with crypto, but that is wrong and not true!
Many crypto sports bookmakers are offering MMA betting but they release odds few days before fights start.
✂

i was ... but then the betting offers at the two bookmakers you mentioned are relatively new ... last year there were not yet the possibilities.
pleased me personally now very much that you can now also make bets on this event in crypto

[notblox1]

First Invicta MMA event in 2022 is starting tomorrow with main event FC 45 and main event rematch Alesha Zappitella (9-2) vs Jessica Delboni (11-3) for atomweight category title.
Weight-ins are completed and fights are confirmed, and Delboni is big favorite to win if we look at odds, but she lost the first fight against Zappitella with split decision.
Invicta is only female only MMA competition, and many talents go from Invicta directly to top competitions later like UFC  and Bellator.


https://invictafc.com/

[TheNineClub]

First Invicta MMA event in 2022 is starting tomorrow with main event FC 45 and main event rematch Alesha Zappitella (9-2) vs Jessica Delboni (11-3) for atomweight category title.
Weight-ins are completed and fights are confirmed, and Delboni is big favorite to win if we look at odds, but she lost the first fight against Zappitella with split decision.
Invicta is only female only MMA competition, and many talents go from Invicta directly to top competitions later like UFC  and Bellator.


https://invictafc.com/

Invicta was, for the longest time, the supplier of fighters for UFC, but at times the quality did not match up with the level expected by UFC. I would like to see more avenues for women athletes where they can fight and still have a chance of fighting in the UFC. Some of the European fighters and ones coming from Asia are having a different path to UFC, and it's great to see that diversification. I think that brings the quality up a bit. Maybe some more avenues open in the US as well.

[notblox1]

Good news for anyone who is following what Khabib Nurmagomedov is doing with his Eagle FC MMA promotion!
You can watch next event EFC 44 Kharitonov vs. Spong LIVE and FREE on FLX, so maybe it's good thing to register on their website early.
Fight card is looking very interesting with great co-main fight Rashad Evans vs Gabriel Checco.
There are some unknown fighters and I am sure Dana White scouts will be following this event for potential new UFC fighters.



Sign up to watch EFC44 for FREE:
https://goflx.com/

[TheNineClub]

Good news for anyone who is following what Khabib Nurmagomedov is doing with his Eagle FC MMA promotion!
You can watch next event EFC 44 Kharitonov vs. Spong LIVE and FREE on FLX, so maybe it's good thing to register on their website early.
Fight card is looking very interesting with great co-main fight Rashad Evans vs Gabriel Checco.
There are some unknown fighters and I am sure Dana White scouts will be following this event for potential new UFC fighters.



Sign up to watch EFC44 for FREE:
https://goflx.com/

Pfuuu, this is gonna be a tough one for Spong. It's always the same issue with stand-up fighters that transition to MMA, how will they make up for grappling and warding of submissions from ground-based fighters. Kharitonov has a solid number of submissions in his career and has had a ton of fights under his belt, so if he makes a smart decision and tries to take it to the ground as soon as possible, it could be bad night for Spong. It's still fighting and anything can happen, but the odds are not in favor of Spong.

[notblox1]

Pfuuu, this is gonna be a tough one for Spong. It's always the same issue with stand-up fighters that transition to MMA, how will they make up for grappling and warding of submissions from ground-based fighters. Kharitonov has a solid number of submissions in his career and has had a ton of fights under his belt, so if he makes a smart decision and tries to take it to the ground as soon as possible, it could be bad night for Spong. It's still fighting and anything can happen, but the odds are not in favor of Spong.

Spong is a newcomer with only two fights in pro MMA, and he is facing veteran Kharitonov with 33 wins behind him, so it's not going to be easy for him.
Before coming to MMA he was doing great in boxing in kickboxing and he is noe training in Sanford MMA, Florida, so he won't gave up easy and maybe he wins like odds suggest.
He is a big favorite by bookmakers, that is why I think there is a value betting on Kharitonov to win.

[TheNineClub]

Pfuuu, this is gonna be a tough one for Spong. It's always the same issue with stand-up fighters that transition to MMA, how will they make up for grappling and warding of submissions from ground-based fighters. Kharitonov has a solid number of submissions in his career and has had a ton of fights under his belt, so if he makes a smart decision and tries to take it to the ground as soon as possible, it could be bad night for Spong. It's still fighting and anything can happen, but the odds are not in favor of Spong.

Spong is a newcomer with only two fights in pro MMA, and he is facing veteran Kharitonov with 33 wins behind him, so it's not going to be easy for him.
Before coming to MMA he was doing great in boxing in kickboxing and he is noe training in Sanford MMA, Florida, so he won't gave up easy and maybe he wins like odds suggest.
He is a big favorite by bookmakers, that is why I think there is a value betting on Kharitonov to win.

Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's hard for me to think Spong
can come out of this a winner. I made that mistake with Gokhan Saki. Sure, Saki won his first match, but he was given a striker with far less experience. Kharitonov is another beast. Maybe he should have had a couple more fights before jumping up rank, but I don't know what those fights would be.

[TopTort777]

I remember Tyrone Spong from K1. If he will show the same striking speed in mma, then he has good chances against Kharitonov. Kharitonov is experienced, but his prime form was during Pride, Dream and Strikeforce, that is about 10 years ago. If Spong avoids ground game and submissions, he will win. Check out his 14-0 boxing and 107-7 kickboxing record. His wins were mostly by knockout, and on the other hand we have Sergey who hasnt fought a top fighter last years.

In the fight against Cheick Kongo, Sergey surrendered in less than 1 second after being trapped in a read-naked choke. He did not even try to get out. If he had wins by submission in the past, than I wound not count it as a huge advantage in his next fight.

[notblox1]

I remember Tyrone Spong from K1. If he will show the same striking speed in mma, then he has good chances against Kharitonov. Kharitonov is experienced, but his prime form was during Pride, Dream and Strikeforce, that is about 10 years ago. If Spong avoids ground game and submissions, he will win. Check out his 14-0 boxing and 107-7 kickboxing record. His wins were mostly by knockout, and on the other hand we have Sergey who hasnt fought a top fighter last years.

This is true what you say but Spongs is not that much younger than Kharitonov and he has zero experience in MMA fighting.
One more thing that I saw is that he was not having any professional fight since 2019 and Kharitonov had 3 fights in 2020 and 3 in 2021.
Age difference is five years, Kharitonov is 41, Spong is 36, andf Kharitonov has reach and weight advantage.
I don't see any real reason for making Spong such a big favorite, for me this will be very close fight.

[TopTort777]

When watching UFC pre fights preparations recently, I remember seeing Spong in the gym. He wasnt active since 2019, but I am sure he had sparings with some good opponents. Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents. One was a former strongman with 21-14 record, other was never considered as a good fighter (I would say average), third fight he has lost. I would not count these 3 fights as a huge advantage.

Both fighters are strikers. I predict the whole fight to be in stance. Kharitonov was never famous for his speed, even in prime. And now he became bigger (how ever Spong has gained also). I think that Kharitonov will mostly throw single heavy punches, maybe a series of 1-2, some rare low kicks. While Spong will do more series on different body levels until one punch connects and the fight will end with a TKO.

[tokeweed]

No UFC this weekend so we’re forced to watch the b league, which I really don’t mind.  I just wanna see these guys throw leather.  Bellator 273 is in the menu.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/85140-bellator-273-bader-vs-moldavsky

I really don’t know most of these guys except Bader and Benson Henderson but from what I’ve noticed in Bellator, the bouts are usually a mismatch.  The favorite really is the favorite which makes these matches very parlayable.  But there will be one pie shitter in there or two.

[notblox1]

Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents.

Cheick Kongo is top level fighter, ex UFC and he won 31 fights, that is impressive record.
Kharitonov was active, he did some boxing and he is bigger man so I don't see how he can lose this fight so easy.
Training at the gym with sparring partners for more than two years is not enough for this level of MMA.

No UFC this weekend so we’re forced to watch the b league, which I really don’t mind.  I just wanna see these guys throw leather.  Bellator 273 is in the menu.

No UFC but we have other alternatives, don't forget EagleFC by Khabib team is starting in two days and ONE Championship is starting tomorrow.
Main event and some other fights are with kickboxing style, and we have more fighters from Europe this time.
Best part of this is that you can watch ONE Championship event Live and FREE on youtube in high resolution.


https://www.onefc.com/

[TopTort777]

Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents.

Cheick Kongo is top level fighter, ex UFC and he won 31 fights, that is impressive record.
Kharitonov was active, he did some boxing and he is bigger man so I don't see how he can lose this fight so easy.
Training at the gym with sparring partners for more than two years is not enough for this level of MMA.

Kongo is a top fighter, no doubt. But Kharitonov has lost to him. Tapped almost immediately, not even trying to get out.
You know we Russian say "The bigger the closet, the more noise it makes when falling", meaning size dont matter. Ok, I got your point. So who do you think will win? I predict Spong to win in the first part of the fight, end of first round probably.

Dont forget about Gabriel Checco vs. Rashad Evans fight. Rashad is a former UFC champ. This fight will have something to look at also. So dont miss it at least in replay.

[tokeweed]

Kharitonov 3 last fights were not against top opponents.

Cheick Kongo is top level fighter, ex UFC and he won 31 fights, that is impressive record.
Kharitonov was active, he did some boxing and he is bigger man so I don't see how he can lose this fight so easy.
Training at the gym with sparring partners for more than two years is not enough for this level of MMA.

No UFC this weekend so we’re forced to watch the b league, which I really don’t mind.  I just wanna see these guys throw leather.  Bellator 273 is in the menu.

No UFC but we have other alternatives, don't forget EagleFC by Khabib team is starting in two days and ONE Championship is starting tomorrow.
Main event and some other fights are with kickboxing style, and we have more fighters from Europe this time.
Best part of this is that you can watch ONE Championship event Live and FREE on youtube in high resolution.


https://www.onefc.com/

I’ll watch any b or c league esp if there’s no UFC.  Gotta get my MMA fix.  Lol.

Anyway, went thru the Bellator card and asked around, didn’t watch any tape or looked at the stats, just from asking for info from people I respect...  Bader is a live underdog due to the wrestling advantage.  And even though Bader’s chin isn’t really that good anymore, Moldavsky doesn’t really have the KO power for a heavy weight.  And for the rest the favorites should most likely win.  But if you’re gonna do parlays, buyer beware...  There’s always a pie shitter in every card.

[TheNineClub]

I remember Tyrone Spong from K1. If he will show the same striking speed in mma, then he has good chances against Kharitonov. Kharitonov is experienced, but his prime form was during Pride, Dream and Strikeforce, that is about 10 years ago. If Spong avoids ground game and submissions, he will win. Check out his 14-0 boxing and 107-7 kickboxing record. His wins were mostly by knockout, and on the other hand we have Sergey who hasnt fought a top fighter last years.

In the fight against Cheick Kongo, Sergey surrendered in less than 1 second after being trapped in a read-naked choke. He did not even try to get out. If he had wins by submission in the past, than I wound not count it as a huge advantage in his next fight.

Kongo had more than 30 fights behind him before he fought Kharitonov and a bunch of those were top-tier fighters at that point. Congo also started as a standup fighter but after such a huge background in MMA at the point of fighting Kharitonov, he is sure to have become a more than decent grappler. So him catching Kharitonov in a sub is not out of this planet. But comparing that to better chances Spong could have against Kharitonov just doesn't add up on paper. Again, this is fighting and anything can happen, but the Kongo comparison is not really applicable.