MMA talk - PFL, Bellator, KSW, ONE...

[eaLiTy]

UFC is treating their fighters like shit, they don't allow them to have their own sponsors, or to fight with boxers if they want, and more fighters are now having courage to say that in public, like Tony Ferguson did few days ago, or Francis Ngannou before him.

It is true that the UFC fighters are not allowed to wear their own sponsors during the fight night but apart from that they can promote them at will,  Not heard what Tony Ferguson said about the payment but Francis Ngannou knows very well that if UFC let him go that he wont be getting the same payment anywhere else. He is dreaming about a boxing event against one of the greatest boxers in Tyson Fury and for that Dana White is not letting him do that because that will harm the UFC brand if he looks foolish boxing against Tyson Fury.

Why do you think some of the best fighters like Cris Cyborg left UFC and signed for Bellator, than you have Patricio Pitbull and arguably one of the best fighter and legend Fedor Emelianenko is in Bealltor and he never signed for UFC.
Overall UFC probably have more quality fighters, but many champions in other organizations can fight equally with champions from UFC.

Cris Cyborg left because she felt she is disrespected in the UFC. There is a reason Fedor Emelianenko did not sign with the UFC, his demands of co promotion with the UFC was not accepted by Dana White. I do accept that Bellator has some talented fighters and i would like to see a cross promotion mega event once a year which would be awesome

[TheNineClub]

^  Love them or hate them all we should care about is that the fighters throw leather and for the UFC to put up good match ups for us to put some action on.  The day that stops happening is the day the UFC starts losing its competitive edge.  It's just too bad there's no MMA organization that comes close to the UFC and really compete vs the UFC.  Dana White is setting the bar up for everybody else.

I wouldn't necessarily agree that no one comes close. If we take the whole of the UFC fights, a ton of them are no different than Bellator fights, and ONE has some great events and fights with overall excellent production quality. I get what you are saying, but it's just we are conditioned to value the UFC more due to their longevity and just the sheer amount of fights they put out (and I personally have a bunch of issues with that).

Oh c'mon...  Lol.  The UFC's roster has better fighters and guys who are at the top of the game.  I won't even argue about it even after anybody replies to this post.  Bellator is the B league.  Kinda like the Championship division in English football.  But I get it, outside the top 20 a lot of the matches sometimes get sketchy.

And judging from optics alone I think ONE is a lot more fun to watch than Bellator imho.  The guys over there are faster and more intent to KO the other guy for some reason.

Edit:  Looking at the lines rn.  Surprisingly Bellator 280 matches are a lot closer based on the odds.

That was not the matter of the discussion. I do agree that at the top the fighters are better in the UFC than in any other organization, but when it comes to the fights themselves, outside of the top 3 on a card, most will look and feel like any other fights from any other organization. This is not an argument here, just my opinion and maybe Bellator is not the best comparison here as it was war long since Bellator was surpassed by other organisations (PFL and ONE)

[notblox1]

I placed a bet on Cheick Kongo like I said I would but he lost by decision from Ryan Bader  and he remained heavyweight champion in Bellator.
Maybe I expected to much from Kongo in from on French crowd, but he was not defeated with some KO or TKO.
It was much easier job for Yoel Romero who made a statement with KO in third round against Alex Polizzi.

[TopTort777]

This Friday there will be Bellator 281.



This event will be interesting due to two fight. Michael Page vs Logan Storley. I am not familiar with Storley, but I am sure everyone knows Page. And Lyoto Machida (former lightheavy weight UFC champ) vs. Fabian Edwards (just a meat with two losses in last two fights).

I think a bet on Machida will be an easy money.

[cabron]

This Friday there will be Bellator 281.



This event will be interesting due to two fight. Michael Page vs Logan Storley. I am not familiar with Storley, but I am sure everyone knows Page. And Lyoto Machida (former lightheavy weight UFC champ) vs. Fabian Edwards (just a meat with two losses in last two fights).

I think a bet on Machida will be an easy money.

Machida still in the game. If I weren't in sportsbet checking Bellator I wouldn't have not heard of him again.

Rooting for Paige on SB in this just one match. No other match. Not also familiar with Storley but I like watching Page showboat which he is known for. Hope it won't end like Lima's leg kick.  I've bet in 3.10.  I also checked Storly breakdown record, 13 wins, 1 loss and 8 by way of KO. He is a tough fighter seeing he is also the favorite.

[notblox1]

I saw new Bellator event is coming in few days, but before that we have all girls Invicta Fighting Championships and title fight Emily Ducote vs Alesha Zappitella in Strawweight category.
Ducote is favorite in this fight and she has big reach advantage but defending championship title is never easy, like we saw in UFC with Rose Namajunas.
This is smaller fight card with only seven matches, but it's nice warm up for Bellator and UFC events coming this weekend.


http://invictafc.com/

[tokeweed]

This Friday there will be Bellator 281.



This event will be interesting due to two fight. Michael Page vs Logan Storley. I am not familiar with Storley, but I am sure everyone knows Page. And Lyoto Machida (former lightheavy weight UFC champ) vs. Fabian Edwards (just a meat with two losses in last two fights).

I think a bet on Machida will be an easy money.

Be careful with Machida.  He's on a three fight losing streak and he isn't the same guy we enjoyed watching years ago.  He's kinda slow now.  The foot work is as good for a round and no more starting around the middle of R2.  Even though the other guy is on a two fight losing streak himself, he's younger at 29 years old while Machida is 43, Edwards also has a 5 inch reach advantage.  And he's the crowd favorite as the event is happening in England.  That's huge.  The atmosphere and crowd in England hits different.

[notblox1]

Be careful with Machida.  He's on a three fight losing streak and he isn't the same guy we enjoyed watching years ago.  He's kinda slow now.  The foot work is as good for a round and no more starting around the middle of R2.  Even though the other guy is on a two fight losing streak himself, he's younger at 29 years old while Machida is 43, Edwards also has a 5 inch reach advantage.  And he's the crowd favorite as the event is happening in England.

Edwards has big reach advantage, he is going to have support of home crowd in London, and he is big favorite with bookmakers, but both of them lost few previous matches.
I am more excited for main event interim title fight with two fighters in great form, and I am again giving advantage to Michael Page who is born and raised in London, even if he is big underdog in this fight.
It's going to be great MMA weekend and I like betting on underdogs

[tokeweed]

^  I don't know much about Edwards tbh and I admit, I haven't seen him  fight live.  But I do know Machida and judging from how he has been looking as of late, his age and the venue, he's an auto fade.

Anyway it looks like it's another Bellator card that you can parlay the favorites by pairs and usually end up a bet or two up at the end of the event.    But you know Bellator 280 had surprisingly more balanced match ups..  I wish they did more of that.

[notblox1]

I don't know much about Edwards tbh and I admit, I haven't seen him  fight live.  But I do know Machida and judging from how he has been looking as of late, his age and the venue, he's an auto fade.

I was looking predictions from other people, journalists MMA experts and most of them think that Machida will win in this fight.
This is first fight for Machida in Europe after he signed for Bellator, and he did look calm in his interview before fight.

Don't forget that you can watch next Bellator event Prelims live on their youtube channel for free:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX8nnttyQ8Y

[seek3r]

Couldn't read all of these pages of MMA Info. But I guess this thrad is the right one.



There is a organisation, called OKTAGON MMA which really puts energy into promotion and stuff like that. Looks like they try to expand from their czech fans since there are a few events planed in Germany now aswell.
Their fight cards look very promising - ofc not comparable with UFC fight nights but I guess they are on the right track. There is a new series aswell - a format like we know from "The Ultimate Fighter".

If there is some interest in here I would share some updates/news in future. What do you guys think about it? Did someone already hear from it?

[tokeweed]

I don't know much about Edwards tbh and I admit, I haven't seen him  fight live.  But I do know Machida and judging from how he has been looking as of late, his age and the venue, he's an auto fade.

I was looking predictions from other people, journalists MMA experts and most of them think that Machida will win in this fight.
This is first fight for Machida in Europe after he signed for Bellator, and he did look calm in his interview before fight.

Don't forget that you can watch next Bellator event Prelims live on their youtube channel for free:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX8nnttyQ8Y

Dunno, maybe if the event was in neutral ground or in Brazil then I guess the odds could tip a little bit in Machida's favor.  Coming from betting mostly football I really do think the crowd could affect the players on the pitch or the fighters in the cage or ring.  And this is England.  It's a different atmosphere overall.

And I guess I should start doing this itt too and get more people interested in these events.

Bellator 281:  Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s07E5isDwU

Bellator 281:  Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98Ej26172s

Michael Page (168.6) vs. Logan Storley (169.4) – for interim welterweight title
Fabian Edwards (185) vs. Lyoto Machida (185)
Denise Kielholtz (124.2) vs. Kana Watanabe (125.2)
Paul Daley (174.4) vs. Wendell Giacomo (174.2)
Simon Biyong (205.2) vs. Luke Trainer (205)
Daniel Weichel (145.2) vs. Robert Whiteford (145.
Oliver Enkamp (168. vs. Mark Lemminger (170.2)
Kate Jackson (125.6) vs. Elina Kallionidou (125.
Alfie Davis (155. vs. Tim Wilde (155.
Andrew Fisher (145.4) vs. Attila Korkmaz (145.
Alan Carlos (189.2)* vs. Charlie Ward (184.
Lee Chadwick (205.4) vs. Maciej Rozanski (204.
Lanchana Green (115) vs. Chiara Penco (115.2)

*Missed weight

[notblox1]

If there is some interest in here I would share some updates/news in future. What do you guys think about it? Did someone already hear from it?

I never heard about it and I follow news about most known MMA organizations, but you are free to post anything related with Oktagon MMA.
You can also try to find if there are any sports betting websites that have market available for that fights.

Dunno, maybe if the event was in neutral ground or in Brazil then I guess the odds could tip a little bit in Machida's favor.  Coming from betting mostly football I really do think the crowd could affect the players on the pitch or the fighters in the cage or ring.  And this is England.  It's a different atmosphere overall.

It does some players or fighters affect a lot, but in football and other group sports you have more players involved.
You know that home ground advantage is well known and some teams are very good at home but bad in away matches.
Maybe they are more motivated to perform better for their family and friends.

[TopTort777]

Paul Daley (174.4) vs. Wendell Giacomo (174.2)

Completely forgot about Paul. Used to be a promising fighter, master of a knockout. But after he was kicked from UFC, his turned into regular fighter. Btw, he has won his fight via KO.

Here are Bellator 281 results.



Close fight between Storley and Page. Time is no mercy for anyone. Machida is getting old, cant eat punches like used to. Young and hungry Edwards destroyed him. Machida even looked weak, even though he was not an underdog in this fight. This is the fourth lose for Machina in a row. It is time to retire.

[tokeweed]

^  Machida was a slight underdog.  But yeah he looked like he was a huge underdog.  Fabian Edwards' line was actually the value line even tho he was a slight favorite.  He looked like he should be 1.45 or something.  Lol.  And with how old Machida is rn, he should def retire.  After losing to Shogun Rua in their rematch back in the day in the UFC, I don't think we've seen him at his peak performance.  Well he was doing fine and was able to fight Jon Jones for the title but that was it since then.

There's a ONE event coming.  It's mostly Muay Thai tho.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/88823-one-championship-petchmorakot-vs-vienot

[notblox1]

It's time for one more event for Khabib Nurmagomedov's Eagle FC MMA promotion, and we have big names fighting this time in Miami, Florida.
Main event is Junior dos Santos vs Yorgan De Castro in heavyweight division, and Thiago Silva is fighting with Hector Lombard in middle weight division.
This event could bring up some new names, but I am interested to find out how Junior dos Santos will come back after he dropped from UFC losing last four fights.
Maki Pitolo is one more ex-UFC fighter on this fight card against Doug Usher.


https://eaglefc.com/

There's a ONE event coming.  It's mostly Muay Thai tho.

I think it's starting in similar time like much better Eagle FC event, but you can watch both of them free.
ONE can be watched on their youtube channel, and Eagle FC on their website.

[seek3r]

I never heard about it and I follow news about most known MMA organizations, but you are free to post anything related with Oktagon MMA.
You can also try to find if there are any sports betting websites that have market available for that fights.

Sorry for my late reply but thanks for the input anyways.
In that case I'm going to feed you with some infos, next event will happen on the 21th of May in the O2 Arena in Prague.
However, according to the fight card, only local fighters seem to participate..

Their first big event in Germany with some titlefights is placed on the 4th of June.
Until now, I did not find any crypto-related betting providers which offers something with Oktagon MMA.

[TopTort777]

https://eaglefc.com/

LOL. Too much photoshop on this poster The guys like have lost 5-10 years from their current age.

Another card where veterans are mixed with no-names. I wonder if EFC really earn from this events. It is said that Khabib pays tons of money to former UFC stars, there are no PPV (translations are free), few sponsors in octagon, venues are small.

Hector Lombard havent won since 2015, Silva since 2018. Result of main event is hard to predict.

[tokeweed]

^  That's a somewhat nostalgic event.    JDS should won it as Yorgan De Castro isn't really that good.  I'm not sure about that co main tho.  Hector Lombard hasn't won an MMA match since 2016.  Lol.  And I see Maki Pitolo is in Khabib's roster too.  Nice.  I've always like the way he fights..  Throws everything behind every punch but he doesn't have a good gas tank tho.  Like really nooot a good gas tank.  All those loses in the UFC were not because he sucked.  He's a decent striker, wrestling's ok, zero gas in the tank after a round and a half or so. 

Here are the match ups.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/87539-eagle-fc-48-dos-santos-vs-castro

[notblox1]

I am preparing for upcoming Eagle FC 47 Dos Santos vs De Castro and watching Press Conference on Eagle FC youtube channel.
It's nice to see Khabib is there between other fighters, and I am just waiting for him to jump in octagon one more time
Now he is taking the role of Dana White, standing between fighters during face-offs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPn48bMd6V8

One more thing Khabib Nurmagomedov is working now is cooperation with Bellator inmaking cross promotion fight Junior Dos Santos vs Fedor Emelianenko!