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February 08, 2023, 10:34:00 AM
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Fedor only got $100k is unbelievable. Seem worse than UFC pay. UFC AFAIKA, one can get $250,000 a fight.
But why do they prefer to be with Bellator I guess they just don't want to be under Dana anymore. Several fighters before Ngannou expressed their dissatisfaction with thier contract negotiation.
Fedor winning $100k only for this fight and I think Bader won $150k for the same fight.
Bader confirmed that he was paid 8 or 9 times better in Bellator than he was paid in UFC, and other fighters confirmed that.
So no, UFC is not paying their fighters better, except Connor McGreggor that is allowed to do everything, do boxing, have it's own sponsor, break stuff.
Other fighters are not allowed to do that, and most of the many in UFC is kept by Dana and his frens.
https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/2/6/23588238/ryan-bader-scoffs-at-disclosed-bellator-290-pay-says-he-makes-8-9-times-more-than-he-did-in-ufc

Bader is not telling everything correctly. It is not about he is getting paid many times more in Bellator than in UFC, it is about his ranking. He has got 150k for a fight against Fedor, 150k for a fight against Corey Anderson (that is what I've found in quick search in wiki). I guess a title fight is paid 100-150k in Bellator. But, Bader was never a champion in UFC. He was an average in the division. He probably got 10-30k per fight. That is where "8 or 9 times better" came from. If he was a UFC champ, that would be a completely different story.

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February 08, 2023, 10:40:46 PM
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Bader is not telling everything correctly. It is not about he is getting paid many times more in Bellator than in UFC, it is about his ranking.
Sorry but you don't know the whole truth.
There are many other fighters who said the same thing and one of them is ex UFC champion and current Bellator champion Cris Cyborg.

PFL Challenger Series Week 3 is starting in few days with four fights, and we have all big guys in heavyweight and light heavyweight category.
Danilo Marques is ex UFC fighter so it's going to be interesting to see him in first PFL fight against Ras Hylton.
I found this PFL event on Betnomi if anyone is interested to place some bets.


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February 09, 2023, 05:56:19 AM
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PFL Challenger Series Week 3 is starting in few days with four fights, and we have all big guys in heavyweight and light heavyweight category.
Danilo Marques is ex UFC fighter so it's going to be interesting to see him in first PFL fight against Ras Hylton.
I found this PFL event on Betnomi if anyone is interested to place some bets.
There are only 2 fights which we can bet, Marquez vs Hylton and Abraham vs Graham.

I think this can be an easy money grab by just bet on the underdog, Hylton and Graham aren't really that bad, they're still not have a lot experience. There's only 2 days left before the fight will happen, I don't expect there's will be an odds swing or the odds change a lot. Betting for few dollars seems not really hurt for me.

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February 09, 2023, 12:55:57 PM
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Bader is not telling everything correctly. It is not about he is getting paid many times more in Bellator than in UFC, it is about his ranking.
Sorry but you don't know the whole truth.
There are many other fighters who said the same thing and one of them is ex UFC champion and current Bellator champion Cris Cyborg.

I believe that all of us dont know all the truth and all those background games. Bader is comparing two different things. Payments in UFC while being average or close to top fighter, and payments when he is a champion.

Simple math. If he claims he is earning 8-9 times more in Bellator. Last fight he has earned 150k. 150/8 = almost 20k, an average amount UFC fighter gets for fights+win under his contract.

I've checked several sources. Searched for UFC lightheavyweight champ, Jamahal Hill, numbers:

https://www.mediareferee.com/jamahal-hill-2022-net-worth/
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mma/news/glover-teixeira-vs-jamahal-hill-purse-salaries-how-much-money-ufc-283/wwjakw1kpnlvawpeqo19vjet
https://www.sportspayouts.com/ufc/jamahal-hill-career-earnings/

Long story short, he has earned for 110-210k for his last fight against Texeira. We can suppose he would get same payment for his title defence. So Bader as champ of Bellator earn not much less than if he would  be UFC champ. Definitely not 8-9 times more.

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February 09, 2023, 10:28:54 PM
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We have new twist with Francis Ngannou, everyone wants a piece of him now!
Heavyweight boxer Deontay Wilder, some of you may remember him for losing from Tyson Fury, just said that he wants to have two fights with Nagnnou, in boxing and in MMA!
Deontey Wilder could beat Ngannou in boxing fight, but I am sure we would lose very fast in any real MMA fight against, but that is not all.
Kickboxing promotion Glory said they are also talking with Ngannou about potential deal, and UFC MMA fighter Ciryl Gane praised Ngannou for standing up and winning a war against UFC!
I am not sure how will Dana feel about Gane words, but who cares about that gremlin.

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February 10, 2023, 09:54:36 AM
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A lot of promotions wants to sign Ngannou, but we see no action from Ngannou so far. That is strange imho. The bird is now free, but it does not fly away, just stepped out of the cage and wait. Why do you think Ngannou hasnt signed anything yet? Because he still wants to fight in UFC and waits for a a new offer? When he was in UFC, he talked a lot how he wanted to go boxing against Fury and other big names. To me it looked like his boxing fights are almost organized, and UFC was the only thing that pause him. Now he is a free agent for a month, havent fought for a year. And still hasnt signed anything. The clock is ticking.

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February 11, 2023, 12:58:17 PM
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Ryan Bader isnt a kid either, that can drink whole night, unload whole truck of heavy stuff, take 2h sleep and go to gym next day fresh and recovered. We would better find out why Ryan Bader turned from Light Heavyweight into a guy who was just 1 kg lighter than Fedor. Such extra weight can be obtained either by stupidly eating more, or by supplements. I know that at Bellator, they dont check fighters as detailed as UFC does. So maybe that was the trick why we see ryan so quick lately. I can also agree with Fedor being old for this sport, and on Ryans backround, he looked double old and slow.

Did you watch the fight? did you see how Fedor Emelianenko struggles in punching Bader without getting outbalanced and did you see how slow Fedor Emelianenko is and how younger Ryan Bader is to him it was 7 years on the gap, yes Ryan Bader is also old but not older than Fedor Emelianenko which is in that age he really needed to let go and retire for real, keeping coming back in the sports that he loves surely have gotten into him so much so which do you think have more advantage Ryan Bader or Fedor Emelianenko, that fight was one-sided in Ryan Bader's side, it is clear as day even some Analysis has said how slow Fedor Emelianenko was moving and he is not balanced to the point when he punches Bader he will be outbalanced,

We have new twist with Francis Ngannou, everyone wants a piece of him now!
Heavyweight boxer Deontay Wilder, some of you may remember him for losing from Tyson Fury, just said that he wants to have two fights with Nagnnou, in boxing and in MMA!
Deontey Wilder could beat Ngannou in boxing fight, but I am sure we would lose very fast in any real MMA fight against, but that is not all.
Kickboxing promotion Glory said they are also talking with Ngannou about potential deal, and UFC MMA fighter Ciryl Gane praised Ngannou for standing up and winning a war against UFC!
I am not sure how will Dana feel about Gane words, but who cares about that gremlin.


Well, I love to see that we all know that Boxing and MMA are two different combat sports, and kudos to Deontay Wilder for challenging Ngannou in his forte and in Ngannou's forte aswell, and if this is an exhibition match then it is great match without ever need to worry on anyone could be hurt, because in exhibition matches the rules are more restricted in the safety of both fighters, and this could be a good opportunity for Francis Ngannou that step out of his comfort zone out of UFC he has open up opportunities for him that is what he is talking about freedom,

Well ever Ciryl Gane has said, I think there are many UFC fighters that are praising Francis Ngannou on what he have done, in stepping up not for himself but for the MMA community,
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February 14, 2023, 09:09:29 AM
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There are two events in this week that will happen on Friday February 17th, PFL challenger week 4 and LFA 153.



LFA 153: The main event is Mariscal vs Faria, I expect a great fight even though Mariscal is slightly favorited here.

LFA 153 Quick Card:

Jose Mariscal  vs.  Guilherme Faria 145 lbs
Askar Askar  vs.  Matheus Silva 135 lbs
B. Mashrapov  vs.  Logan Urban 170 lbs
Josh Streacker  vs.  A. Hassanzada 155 lbs
Edwin Cooper Jr.  vs.  I. Bakhtiyar Uulu 145 lbs
Rachel Martinez  vs.  Alandria Brown 115 lbs
Kevin Nowaczyk  vs.  Jorge Bezerra 185 lbs
Justin Lovrich  vs.  Christian Turner 155 lbs
Brandon Johnson  vs.  Tristan Overvig 205 lbs
K. Khuukhenkhuu  vs.  Isaiah Flores 155 lbs




PFL week 4: This will be interesting because both Elvin Espinoza and Manoel Sousa are still undefeated, while their opponents are strong and more experienced. Based on the statistic people think both Espinoza and Sousa will still become undefeated.

PFL Challenger Series 2023 Quick Card:

Elvin Espinoza  vs.  D. Ferhatbegović 155 lbs
Manoel Sousa  vs.  Paulo Henrique 155 lbs
Tony Caruso  vs.  Anthony Romero 155 lbs
Charlie Decca  vs.  José Aguayo 155 lbs

Source:
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/97302-lfa-153-mariscal-vs-faria
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/95442-pfl-challenger-series-12

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this time the ksw 79 event will take place for the first time in liberec, czech republic. a week from saturday, american cage fighter Todd Duffee (9-3) will make his comeback in the main event, challenging englishman Phil De Fries (22-6) for the ksw heavyweight title.
a total of 9 fights with male and female fighters from 10 nations will be held again


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February 15, 2023, 04:20:19 PM
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There are two events in this week that will happen on Friday February 17th, PFL challenger week 4 and LFA 153.




LFA 153 Quick Card:

This is kind of a great event for LFA, I will be looking for the fighter's stats and styles but I am surely looking forward to the fighting kitten on this event and that is the kitten fight of Rachel Martinez and Alandria Brown just look at these pictures I think both of them looks stunning for sure I really want to watch this fight,





PFL Challenger Series 2023 Quick Card:

Elvin Espinoza  vs.  D. Ferhatbegović 155 lbs
Manoel Sousa  vs.  Paulo Henrique 155 lbs
Tony Caruso  vs.  Anthony Romero 155 lbs
Charlie Decca  vs.  José Aguayo 155 lbs


I will be looking forward to this event these are like the contender series for the UFC, well this is going to be a great match because every fighter here will surely do their all  just to win in this match, pretty much I am still looking at each fighters paper, stat, each, weight, height and their fighting styles and will be posting my picks for this event later of tomorrow,


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February 17, 2023, 09:48:55 PM
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PFL week 4: This will be interesting because both Elvin Espinoza and Manoel Sousa are still undefeated, while their opponents are strong and more experienced. Based on the statistic people think both Espinoza and Sousa will still become undefeated.
I like the prospect of this PFL main event Elvin Espinoza vs Damir Ferhatbegovic and comain event Manoel Sousa vs Paulo Henrique.
I never watched this guys fighting before, but I see that two of them have perfect MMA record Espinoza 7-0 and Sousa 9-0.
They are all fighting in same lightweight division, so I would say that PFL is slowly reinforcing all their divisions.

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February 19, 2023, 12:01:49 PM
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Here are the result of the LFA 153: Mariscal vs. Faria

MAIN EVENT

Jose Mariscal DEF Guilherme Faria

CO-MAIN EVENT

Bahromjon Mashrapov DEF Logan Urban

MAIN CARD

Josh Streacker DEF A. Hassanzada
Alandria Brown DEF Rachel Martinez
Justin Lovrich DEF Christian Turner

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Kevin Nowaczyk DEF Jorge Bezerra
Tristan Overvig DEF Brandon Johnson
K. Khuukhenkhuu DEF Isaiah Flores



And the results for the PFL Challenger Series 2023: Week 4

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Elvin Espinoza DEF Damir Ferhatbegović

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Manoel Sousa DEF Paulo Henrique

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Anthony Romero DEF Tony Caruso
Charlie Decca DEF José Aguayo
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February 20, 2023, 07:20:12 AM
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Here are the result of the LFA 153: Mariscal vs. Faria

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Jose Mariscal DEF Guilherme Faria

And the results for the PFL Challenger Series 2023: Week 4

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Elvin Espinoza DEF Damir Ferhatbegović

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Manoel Sousa DEF Paulo Henrique
It's one sided match on the fights between Mariscal vs Faria and Espinoza vs Ferhatbegović, both Faria and Ferhatbegović doesn't have a good ground skills, so that's why it's quite easy to subs them. However a fight between Sousa vs Henrique was really a good war and so close, I think Henrique should won, he landed more punches.

I don't find a replay of LFA 153, but there's a highlight for PFL week 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwgStqWs2jA

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February 20, 2023, 10:30:11 PM
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Bellator is coming back this week with new event from 3Arena in Dublin, Ireland, and I am expecting full arena and great atmosphere.
Welterweight title fight is amazing with Yaroslav Amosov that has perfect 26-0 MMA record and Logan Storley that only has one defeat in his carrier.
Amosov is favorite to win and I think he can do it, he has reach advantage and he was already better than Logan by split decision in 2020.
I don't remember any Bellator card that had 18 fights so it should be great time to be in Dublin.


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Bellator is coming back this week with new event from 3Arena in Dublin, Ireland, and I am expecting full arena and great atmosphere.
Welterweight title fight is amazing with Yaroslav Amosov that has perfect 26-0 MMA record and Logan Storley that only has one defeat in his carrier.
Amosov is favorite to win and I think he can do it, he has reach advantage and he was already better than Logan by split decision in 2020.
I don't remember any Bellator card that had 18 fights so it should be great time to be in Dublin.
Even though Logan Storley is a number 2 fighter in welterweight, but he's struggling to beat the other fighters because he was win for split decision against Dante Schiro and Michael Page, while Yaroslav Amosov have show a clear domination in every fights.


We also have PFL challenger week 5 event where it's a woman fight in flyweight division for the next 2 days.



PFL Challenger Series 2023 Quick Card:

Chelsea Hackett  vs.  Desiree Yanez 125 lbs
Kaytlin Neil  vs.  Griet Eeckhout 125 lbs
Shanna Young  vs.  Sandra Lavado 125 lbs
Helen Peralta  vs.  Lisa Mauldin 125 lbs

Source: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/95443-pfl-challenger-series-13

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February 22, 2023, 11:00:06 PM
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We also have PFL challenger week 5 event where it's a woman fight in flyweight division for the next 2 days.
All women card and I don't any of them, this means I will probably skip PFL event this week.
There is a lot of MMA events in next few days, but most exciting for me is Bellator 291, KSW 79 and UFC event.
They all start in the same time so I can't watch all of them, but main events are looking very interesting.

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It's one sided match on the fights between Mariscal vs Faria and Espinoza vs Ferhatbegović, both Faria and Ferhatbegović doesn't have a good ground skills, so that's why it's quite easy to subs them. However a fight between Sousa vs Henrique was really a good war and so close, I think Henrique should won, he landed more punches.

I don't find a replay of LFA 153, but there's a highlight for PFL week 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwgStqWs2jA

Pretty much I have seen a new Jose "Chepe" Mariscal here instead of getting in aggressively he is cool calm and patiently waiting for the right time to strike and yeah the lack of ground game was really notable for Guilherme Faria and Damir Ferhatbegovic, that have exploited by Mariscal and Espinoza, while Manoel Sousa VS Paulo Henrique was a close one, it surely can cause confusion to the judges on who really won the fight and the scoring was pretty much bad if they didn't get it accurately but for me, Manoel Sousa was great with the submission and those takedowns actually have a score in LFA so it was counted, I think the are considering it as a point,


Even though Logan Storley is a number 2 fighter in welterweight, but he's struggling to beat the other fighters because he was win for split decision against Dante Schiro and Michael Page, while Yaroslav Amosov have show a clear domination in every fights.


We also have PFL challenger week 5 event where it's a woman fight in flyweight division for the next 2 days.



PFL Challenger Series 2023 Quick Card:

Chelsea Hackett  vs.  Desiree Yanez 125 lbs
Kaytlin Neil  vs.  Griet Eeckhout 125 lbs
Shanna Young  vs.  Sandra Lavado 125 lbs
Helen Peralta  vs.  Lisa Mauldin 125 lbs

Source: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/95443-pfl-challenger-series-13

Whoa! A babe fight I haven't seen this coming why, I was late it was heaven for fighting kittens, and looking at Kaytlin "Katniss" Neil  was a real doll, and defeating Katherine Corogenes was a great show to behold, and Desiree Yanez was a real fully tattooed Kitten and a probable win over Maíra Mazar look at those smile from Desiree Yanez, was a sight to behold, and lastly, Lisa Mauldin has a great KO/TKO performance against Helen Peralta, a near decision win, I think this is a good share of event and it was pretty much nice seeing an all-girls fighter war,
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February 25, 2023, 07:06:17 PM
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Welterweight title fight is amazing with Yaroslav Amosov that has perfect 26-0 MMA record and Logan Storley that only has one defeat in his carrier.
Amosov is favorite to win and I think he can do it, he has reach advantage and he was already better than Logan by split decision in 2020.
The fights are live, the fights i picked for a parlay along with the UFC event was Khasan Magomedsharipov who won easily as expected because of his Dagestan wrestling background and Darragh Kelly who is undefeated and fighting a newcomer and building his reputation and experience and a lot of John Kavanagh students in this fight card but waiting for the main card to watch as a fan.
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next weekend the oktagon 40 event will start with a total of 11 cage fights. among others the czech David Kozma will fight against the polish cage fighter Łukasz Siwiec in welterweight.
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A lot of promotions wants to sign Ngannou, but we see no action from Ngannou so far. That is strange imho. The bird is now free, but it does not fly away, just stepped out of the cage and wait. Why do you think Ngannou hasnt signed anything yet? Because he still wants to fight in UFC and waits for a a new offer? When he was in UFC, he talked a lot how he wanted to go boxing against Fury and other big names. To me it looked like his boxing fights are almost organized, and UFC was the only thing that pause him. Now he is a free agent for a month, havent fought for a year. And still hasnt signed anything. The clock is ticking.

I don't think Francis will ever be back in the UFC again and Dana as well does not want to entertain those demands. Most likely the Tyson Fury fight is his biggest payday, maybe $10m? And Fury is scheduled to face Usyk in the first half of this year. Maybe Francis can ink a 1 fight deal in any MMA org or BKFC or boxing. The issue though is a single defeat can cancel his potential Fury payday. Maybe Francis can have an MMA fight against a beatable opponent while waiting for Fury. Boxing or BKFC tune-up might be risky since Francis will surely lose stamina with his heavy arms if he can't stop his opponent in the first 3 rounds.

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