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[inthelongrun]

Chatri offered him $20 million guaranteed and it is a fact that even the UFC offered the highest amount for a Heavy Weight fighter and Francis Ngannou backed out of the deal from the UFC, so money is not the issue. Like i mentioned in another thread there are reports that claim that Ngannou asked for a seat in the directors board in OneFC which is ridiculous and hence they cannot meet those demands and backed out.

Imagine Conor McGregor demanding to be a part owner of UFC because he brings the most views to fight again  .

That was crazy I really think what Francis Ngannou wants is life stability for his family I really think he is the breadwinner of the family and they are all looking up to him to get them out of poverty, even though it is not direct money they are talking about it is insane the position he wants would surely still talking about the money he can get after ONE FC approves to his demand and it was really crazy, I really don't know what Francis Ngannou wants but it is not worth it,

Ngannou might be reluctant to commit this time and keeps adding more demands or prolonging negotiations since he is buying time while Fury's talks are also ongoing. Tyson Fury already ducked Usyk in boxing and until there is no official announcement on his next fight, Ngannou's hopes of an exhibition match remain alive. I read a post somewhere saying Fury was offered $40 million but is not willing to sign since Ngannou also wanted to make it 50/50.

Connor already has ownership of the UFC right? I do not know how many stocks he owns but I heard it was given to him as part of his contract renewal. There's a big difference between Ngannou and Connor though in terms of marketability. Connor owns most of the top UFC PPV buys.

If Henry Cejudo was his trainer I really think he still has that quality touch, but both fighters didn't step inside the ring for other fights they only want that rematch, they didn't see what have changed in their opponent which is a good thing, that means the other one got to surprise the other one, but yeah that faints from Demetrious Johnson was exposed to be fixed by Adriano Moraes, if he got a counter to that then this might be a bad take for Demetrious But DJ, could also capitalize with that and have a change of style,

The good news is Demetrious Johnson won the fight even though it was a decision win it was a dominant win for Demetrious Johnson It was a boring fight and it is because of Adriano Moraes he keeps on clinching against Demetrious Johnson so much that he looks like he doesn't want to fight at all, it was a boring fight in my opinion, but the great fight in this event was the Co-Main Event the Muay Thai fight Rodtang Jitmuangnon VS Edgar Juarez Tabares was more exciting than with the Main Event,

I ended up playing on my phone rather than concentrating on that fight. But at least DJ closed their rivalry with a 2-1 win-loss record. It was Morae's fault as he seemed clueless on how to handle DJ and so he rather stay safe by clinching. And that was probably DJ's last. What an amazing career. Now it's Cejudo's turn to make another historical record. Not a big fan of Cejudo but I prefer him to win over Aljamain.

[notblox1]

This verbal agreement is not something to rely on. Every promotion is just weighing the worth.
PFL contract will also prevent him from fighting in boxing which means Ngannou is losing his chance in boxing. And Jones is not around again so there is no chance for that big fight as well. The dream of millions in every fight is not coming true for him.  2 years is just too long for him to wait and money is drying up. It didn't end well for him still.

Ok wait and see, everything will be released in public soon.
PFL contracts dont prevent anyone from boxing, this is not the same as UFC gulag rules for everyone except McGregor 

One more win for Demetrious Johnson in main event against Adriano Moraes and he is now getting used to fighting in ONE championship with three wins in a raw.
I was shocked with Roberto Soldic KO defeat from Zebaztian Kadestam, anyone who placed a bet on Kadestam made a good amount of money, not many people expected to see this outcome.
This was overall a good One event and you can rewatch it full and FREE on youtue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd68ClJkot4

[cabron]

Ngannou is getting careless in making a deal, he could just accept at least 30/70 for now and then demand in the next fight.

Though DJ's win is not really as glorious as expected, it's still a win for him. Moraes couldn't immobilize him so the fight just end up with him just moving away from DJ all the time even when we obviously can see him towering over DJ. If there is just a huge moment that DJ will have the opportunity to throw a knee, it would be a KO. They may just arrange another fight for the two again.

[eaLiTy]

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Ngannou might be reluctant to commit this time and keeps adding more demands or prolonging negotiations since he is buying time while Fury's talks are also ongoing. Tyson Fury already ducked Usyk in boxing and until there is no official announcement on his next fight, Ngannou's hopes of an exhibition match remain alive. I read a post somewhere saying Fury was offered $40 million but is not willing to sign since Ngannou also wanted to make it 50/50.

Spoiler alert, Marquel Martin who put together the ring side appearance during the Tyson Fury fight and the person who is responsible for putting that fight together is no longer the manager of Francis Ngannou and he his representing himself in those negotiations and we all saw what happened with OneFC and if there is a betting line whether Francis Ngannou will fight the top boxers, i would bet on a big NO.

Connor already has ownership of the UFC right? I do not know how many stocks he owns but I heard it was given to him as part of his contract renewal. There's a big difference between Ngannou and Connor though in terms of marketability. Connor owns most of the top UFC PPV buys.

Conor McGregor is not having any share in the UFC. He is a fighter and a former champion and that is his relation with the UFC.
 

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Ok wait and see, everything will be released in public soon.
PFL contracts dont prevent anyone from boxing, this is not the same as UFC gulag rules for everyone except McGregor  

Clearly waiting for the terms as Francis Ngannou is negotiating directly without a management team .

There is a reason the UFC is not allowing Francis Ngannou to box Tyson Fury who is regarded as one of the greatest Heavyweight boxers of all time, he will be humiliated and i clearly doubt he will be able to sustain more than 5 rounds considering his stamina is not that great and the UFC brand will be affected. After the loss you cannot call the UFC Heavyweight champion as the baddest man on the planet, so there are multiple factors for the UFC and there is no way the UFC will allow Conor McGregor to fight one more Boxing match under their banner.

[inthelongrun]

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Ngannou might be reluctant to commit this time and keeps adding more demands or prolonging negotiations since he is buying time while Fury's talks are also ongoing. Tyson Fury already ducked Usyk in boxing and until there is no official announcement on his next fight, Ngannou's hopes of an exhibition match remain alive. I read a post somewhere saying Fury was offered $40 million but is not willing to sign since Ngannou also wanted to make it 50/50.

Spoiler alert, Marquel Martin who put together the ring side appearance during the Tyson Fury fight and the person who is responsible for putting that fight together is no longer the manager of Francis Ngannou and he his representing himself in those negotiations and we all saw what happened with OneFC and if there is a betting line whether Francis Ngannou will fight the top boxers, i would bet on a big NO.

Ngannou looks like he does not want to pay the managerial cut for his next fight and hired new people that he can ask for advice for his deals. And Ngannou should stop trying to become a hero for MMA fighters' rights since he is already aging and might lose his golden opportunity here.

Based on his numbers, I don't think Ngannou is worth $10 million per fight. And this is probably the same reason why many big boxing promoters are not mentioning his name. Although this number could quickly change after his next fight's PPV numbers. A loss in boxing though might diminish his value and it is very hard to imagine Ngannou winning against any of the top in boxing. Hopefully, a deal happens this month probably with PFL. I wonder if he will get another One FC $20 million 2-fight type of deal.

Connor already has ownership of the UFC right? I do not know how many stocks he owns but I heard it was given to him as part of his contract renewal. There's a big difference between Ngannou and Connor though in terms of marketability. Connor owns most of the top UFC PPV buys.

Conor McGregor is not having any share in the UFC. He is a fighter and a former champion and that is his relation with the UFC.

Alright, I assumed earlier that he was given a small number of shares since Connor re-signed with the UFC and continued his career some years ago. Anyways, there's just a huge difference between Connor and Ngannou. Only by fighting Fury and Jones, he can probably make 1 million PPV buys.

[TopTort777]

Francis is acting like a girl during period. Seriously, he does not like this, he does not want that, he does not accept that, and today he wants this, yesterday he wanted that. Seems like he is wasting everyones time. I hope that he is still worth all that money and benefits he wants.

Speaking about Conor - anyone plans to watch The Ultimate Fighter Conor vs Chandler tv series ? Their show is planned to end on August 15, so I think we could expect Conor vs Chandler fight this summer

[YuginKadoya]

It was really a boring fight you are right, Adriano Moraes doesn't really know what to do and what he can answer Demetrious Johnson with, and you are right all he do was Clinch it's like he is just surviving Demetrious Johnson the entire fight I don't really have words for it, but many have expected that this is going to be one good fight to watch but as the fight progress it was nothing like their 1st and 2nd fight Adriano Moraes don't have an answer against the faints of Demetrious Johnson,


Well, Moving forward right now the brother of Leon Edwards is having a Main Event match in Bellator and it is,

Bellator 296: Mousasi vs. Edwards

Well, I really think Adriano Moraes needs a better trainer If he trains himself I think he needs to find a better trainer that has a better counter to Moraes, which is a hard thing to do, Adriano Moraes had a hard childhood I guess the kid is a great fighter that never gives up but for now he got no answers for Demetrious Johnson,

Ngannou might be reluctant to commit this time and keeps adding more demands or prolonging negotiations since he is buying time while Fury's talks are also ongoing. Tyson Fury already ducked Usyk in boxing and until there is no official announcement on his next fight, Ngannou's hopes of an exhibition match remain alive. I read a post somewhere saying Fury was offered $40 million but is not willing to sign since Ngannou also wanted to make it 50/50.

Connor already has ownership of the UFC right? I do not know how many stocks he owns but I heard it was given to him as part of his contract renewal. There's a big difference between Ngannou and Connor though in terms of marketability. Connor owns most of the top UFC PPV buys.

For sure there are talks that are ongoing for his boxing fight, and he is waiting for it for sure, but the fans can not wait any longer and tend to just forget about Ngannou and move on to a more entertaining guy in the UFC, for sure the UFC has a lingering effect on Ngannou but for what he has done there is no coming back for him and no more rewind, For sure Conor McGregor's face and antics is more enjoyable to watch than with Ngannou just crying for a better deal,

I ended up playing on my phone rather than concentrating on that fight. But at least DJ closed their rivalry with a 2-1 win-loss record. It was Morae's fault as he seemed clueless on how to handle DJ and so he rather stay safe by clinching. And that was probably DJ's last. What an amazing career. Now it's Cejudo's turn to make another historical record. Not a big fan of Cejudo but I prefer him to win over Aljamain.

Good for you if you have something enjoyable to do but surely I was really concentrated on the fight because there might be something new about Adriano Moraes, but it was for naught my efforts were all in vain,


Ares FC 15: Pena vs. Saadi

Date & Time: Thursday 05.11.2023 at 01:00 PM ET
Venue: Dôme de Paris
Location: Paris, France



MAIN EVENT
Demarte Pena VS Mehdi Saadi

CO-MAIN EVENT
Amin Ayoub VS Alaa Mansour

MAIN CARD
Ibrahim Mané VS Juan Manuel Suarez
Christopher Jacquelin VS Felix Klinkhammer
Jordan Zébo VS Mickael Marie Sardi
Vincent del Guerra VS Nikola Joksović
Moustapha Aida VS Abdelmoumen Mssaate

PRELIMINARY CARD
Alexander Soldatkin VS Benjamin Šehić
David Tonatiuh Crol VS Asilder Badouiev
Assia Miri VS Joana Chevreuil
Azamat Aboukhanov VS Islem Masraf

All information was from TAPOLOGY

[notblox1]

Cris Cyborg signed another deal with Bellator after having a break for two boxing matches with Gabrielle Holloway and Simone da Silva.
Upcoming Bellator 296 event Mousasi vs Edwards should be very interesting, this is taking place in Europe, France and atmosphere should be amazing.
Mousasi is a big favorite but I would not underestimate Edwards in this fight, and in co main event Mansour Tarzan Barnaoui should win in front of home crowd but odds are not great.


https://www.bellator.com/

[eaLiTy]

Cris Cyborg signed another deal with Bellator after having a break for two boxing matches with Gabrielle Holloway and Simone da Silva.

The only fight that i will be interested for Cris Cyborg is the rematch against Amanda Nunes. She will dominate the rest of the fighters unless the age factor comes into play.

Upcoming Bellator 296 event Mousasi vs Edwards should be very interesting, this is taking place in Europe, France and atmosphere should be amazing.
Mousasi is a big favorite but I would not underestimate Edwards in this fight, and in co main event Mansour Tarzan Barnaoui should win in front of home crowd but odds are not great.

Gegard Mousasi is the most underrated fighter and he has not got the recognition that he deserved and he should have fought for the belt in the UFC and since he was not able to secure a title fight he moved to Bellator and he is on to his 60th MMA fight and age might be catching up to him as he was outclassed by Johnny Eblen in his last fight and hence this is a must win fight against relatively new Fabian Edwards.

[notblox1]

The only fight that i will be interested for Cris Cyborg is the rematch against Amanda Nunes. She will dominate the rest of the fighters unless the age factor comes into play.

You cant have that fight right now because Cris Cyborg is in Bellator and Amanda Nunes in UFC, and I heard that Nunes wants to retire soon because she thinks that she won everything already.
There are other good fighters who could fight with Cyborg maybe Kayla Harrison will get a chance to face her, and she has a great 15-1 MMA score.
Larissa Pacheco is one more fighter I can think off, she looks more like a male than a female and she was better than Kayla Harrison last time 

[TopTort777]

Gegard Mousasi is the most underrated fighter and he has not got the recognition that he deserved and he should have fought for the belt in the UFC and since he was not able to secure a title fight he moved to Bellator and he is on to his 60th MMA fight and age might be catching up to him as he was outclassed by Johnny Eblen in his last fight and hence this is a must win fight against relatively new Fabian Edwards.

Yeap, Mousasi is a great and really underrated fighter. Sad to see that due to financial issues he has left UFC. He had victories over big names in UFC and beat those guys when they were in peak form. I've  heard that he has left UFC mostly because of Reebok sponsorship. He had to cancel all his previous contract, Reebok would become his main and only sponsor and for that he would receive only 10k. That is nothing. His and his team tickets from Netherlands to US would cost more than this.

[tusandii]

ONE Championship will return soon on 9 June 2023 with a World Championship clash at ONE Fight Night between Regian Eersel vs Dmitry Menshikov.
The main supporting match will also take place, namely between Kade Ruotolo vs Tommy Langaker.
There are also 8 other battle bouts that will take place on the same day.



Source : https://twitter.com/ONEChampionship/status/1656109421209202688?t=yn6vDAo80b0L0b51jRaLZg&s=19

[owengtam09]

Cris Cyborg signed another deal with Bellator after having a break for two boxing matches with Gabrielle Holloway and Simone da Silva.
Upcoming Bellator 296 event Mousasi vs Edwards should be very interesting, this is taking place in Europe, France and atmosphere should be amazing.
Mousasi is a big favorite but I would not underestimate Edwards in this fight, and in co main event Mansour Tarzan Barnaoui should win in front of home crowd but odds are not great.


https://www.bellator.com/

At the age of 37 Cris Cyborg doesn't really want to stop, she got 2 recent fights in boxing last year and both are a win, a grappling matches 7 wins and 1 loss record, and a Muay Thai record of 2 wins and 1 loss, and in the MMA where she was known to UFC, but right now on Bellator and doing a great job right now, with 26 wins and 2 losses, Chris Cyborg is one of the best there is, and now that she is in Bellator she got a perfect winning since she debuts in Bellator that was one crazy feat aswell,

The only fight that i will be interested for Cris Cyborg is the rematch against Amanda Nunes. She will dominate the rest of the fighters unless the age factor comes into play.

Unfortunately, Cris Cyborg is at her peak maybe she knows that she is nearing her limit inside the ring, but yeah Amanda Nunes would be great but she needs to resign from the UFC, and I think she will not get back to UFC she got an issue with Dana White the boss so yeah, but maybe years have past and bygones should be bygones, and let Cyborg back again but I think Chris Cyborg is really pissed off with Dana White than White was pissed of with Cyborg,

[notblox1]

Fellows Bellator 296 Mousasi vs Edwards main event is starting soon but they had all prelims available for free live on youtube and you can watch them now!
I think Fabian Edwards can surprised Mousasi today and use advantage of bigger reach advantage and younger age.
My bets for today are Fabian Edwards, Mansour Barnaoui, Costello van Steenis and Thibault Gouti.
Watch Prelims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjirH_JgvS8

[cygan]

exactly in one week the oktagon #43 event will take place - this time in the czech capital prague.
The most anticipated fight (Patrik Kincl vs. Karlos Vémola) of the domestic scene for the king in the middleweight division will be the highlight of this evening. other cage fights you can see from the graphic

[owengtam09]

Fellows Bellator 296 Mousasi vs Edwards main event is starting soon but they had all prelims available for free live on youtube and you can watch them now!
I think Fabian Edwards can surprised Mousasi today and use advantage of bigger reach advantage and younger age.
My bets for today are Fabian Edwards, Mansour Barnaoui, Costello van Steenis and Thibault Gouti.
Watch Prelims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjirH_JgvS8

I really think that Fabian Edwards really did great against Gegard Mousasi Edwards destroys one of the biggest names in Bellator surely Fabian Edwards was composed towards the fight and started very competitively unlike it became very one-sided towards Edwards, he even got a takedown over Mousasi, and Edwards was hitting hard with his precise striking and even if he is on the advantage he didn't lose composure and stayed on their game plan and never went for a knockout or submission, and then when the fight was finished and Fabian Edwards announced the winner the champion Johnny Eblen got inside the ring to confront the winner Edwards and they got scuffles that the officials need to get in and stop the commotion well title fight is next for Edwards,

[YuginKadoya]

Result of the Ares FC 15 event

Ares FC 15: Pena vs. Saadi

MAIN EVENT
Demarte Pena DEF Mehdi Saadi 

CO-MAIN EVENT
Amin Ayoub DEF Alaa Mansour

MAIN CARD
Ibrahim Mané DEF Juan Manuel Suarez
Felix Klinkhammer DEF Christopher Jacquelin
Jordan Zébo DEF Mickael Marie Sardi
Nikola Joksović DEF Vincent del Guerra
Moustapha Aida DEF Abdelmoumen Mssaate

PRELIMINARY CARD
Alexander Soldatkin DEF Benjamin Šehić
David Tonatiuh Crol DEF Asilder Badouiev
Assia Miri VS Joana Chevreuil
Islem Masraf DEF Azamat Aboukhanov

I really think that Fabian Edwards really did great against Gegard Mousasi Edwards destroys one of the biggest names in Bellator surely Fabian Edwards was composed towards the fight and started very competitively unlike it became very one-sided towards Edwards, he even got a takedown over Mousasi, and Edwards was hitting hard with his precise striking and even if he is on the advantage he didn't lose composure and stayed on their game plan and never went for a knockout or submission, and then when the fight was finished and Fabian Edwards announced the winner the champion Johnny Eblen got inside the ring to confront the winner Edwards and they got scuffles that the officials need to get in and stop the commotion well title fight is next for Edwards,

Indeed a great fight Fabian Edwards was dominating the fight at 1st it was a very close one but Edwards was really something with the stand-up and getting Gegard Mousasi on the ground was easy for him to scuffled with Mousasi on the ground, and surely he dominated the stand-up so much, now the title shot is within reach for Fabian Edwards when Johnny Eblen shows inside the ring and have a scuffled against him until the officials have separated them,

Well Leon Edwards was so much proud on his brother and just like his brother Leon Edwards, Fabian Edwards is motivated in getting the Middleweight belt,

[notblox1]

It is a done deal for Francis Ngannou, but we are going to have to wait few more days until he finally announces the company he signed deal with.
He teased us all a lot, and I think Dana White will be more angry after Ngannou make it official.
My prediction is that he signed with PFL and I said that before but lets wait and see.

[cabron]

It is a done deal for Francis Ngannou, but we are going to have to wait few more days until he finally announces the company he signed deal with.
He teased us all a lot, and I think Dana White will be more angry after Ngannou make it official.
My prediction is that he signed with PFL and I said that before but lets wait and see.

PFL could be his last option if he is not going back to UFC so yes, it must be PFL. Is Francis gonna be paid higher than what UFC offered?  
We're gonna see him fight after all in MMA and not in boxing. It's what he was after when he looks for a boxing fight that could pay more than his UFC career.  

Dana will be furious but he might be interested in a fight against Pavlovich or Jones against Francis.

[notblox1]

PFL could be his last option if he is not going back to UFC so yes, it must be PFL. Is Francis gonna be paid higher than what UFC offered?  
We're gonna see him fight after all in MMA and not in boxing. It's what he was after when he looks for a boxing fight that could pay more than his UFC career.  

He is going to be paid much more than what UFC offered and he will be allowed to have boxing matches, only Dana White is making stupid restrictions for everyone except Conor McGregor 
It was never only about the money for Ngannou, he was asking guaranteed payment and health insurance for everyone including his opponents, that means he wanted to change things for better in MMA.
Anyway in next 24 hours we are going to know more about his new deal, and he is saying this on twitter now:

Looking at the bright future on the horizon

https://twitter.com/francis_ngannou/status/1658177958379663361